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  1. #29874
    So if I am reading what you wrote correctly, if a girl were to contact me and say she wanted to hang out with me and if I tell her I just want to relax and was not interested in sex, but she still says she would like to come over anyway I should say no? I should tell her "no" and tell her that the next time she sees me she has to reduce her price by 50 K. Or maybe crawl around on the floor and beg? Why, Because I am sooo much better then she is. Truth is I do wind up giving her some money anyway, The point is I don't treat her like horse manure. Maybe, I should say no and tell her to come clean my apartment for 15 dollars. What a nice guy you are.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Insecure about what? I want things the cheapest for everyone. It does not bother me in the least bit because I seldom fuck with hookers. There are so many chicks that are not hookers to deal with that I don't find them a necessity, but a one-off for quick fun. And when I do deal with them I know how to negotiate my own price, so what the next man is paying would rarely affect me.

    I just can't understand why he is jumping on the other poster for trying to negotiate. Pussy does a strange thing to some guys. They will get on expedia and look for a bargain on a ticket to get somewhere, get on hotelsdotcom to look for a good deal on a hotel, but don't you dare mention to them trying to get a discount on some pussy.

    Come on man. This is not true at all. I hardly ever repeat with a chick and really never report a bad session. How many posters have you seen say I fucked this chick the first couple of times and she was mediocre. But the fourth time I took her she blew my socks off because I was a consistent customer. FAKE NEWS.

    If I DID repeat with chick then it was because she impressed me on the first encounter when she seen me as that one-off jack off tourist. How could she even hope to make you a consistent customer by giving shitty service on the initial meet?

    Actually you can not get more hypocritical than that. If you have really gotten to know someone and their situation is as bad as he has made it out to be, then how could you dare accept a freebie from someone you call a "friend" and you know them to be in such dire need? A stranger would not care if she was eaten by a tiger on the way home. He is just there to get his rocks off. But if you have developed a relationship with someone and you know this is how they are making a living, then you would have to be a low down character to accept free services from them at a time when they could be with someone else who they could actually get money from.

    I live in Thailand and my "friends" that I know may need some extra cash, I find shit for them to do to make more cash, like offering them to come clean my place for me for $15. (The minimum wage there is $10 per day and it only takes about 2 hours to clean my place how I like it.) I don't just sit around watching movies and drinking with them and accepting freebies when I know they are on the verge of starving.
    .

  2. #29873
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWitch  [View Original Post]
    Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.
    Although I don't know his definition but women in Thailand don't all look the same. It is not difficult to find a woman with very distinct facial feature that can be considered exotic looking and beautiful.

    Thailand also has more variety of services like sexual massage, soapy and they are cleaner and their service level are much better than anything I have seen in South America. You can also just walk around after midnight near Nana and Cowboy and there are full of people. There are also several international chain hotels right in the middle of it, and you can just walk out of hotel door, pick a puta on a street or Thermae, walk back to your hotel all within 30 minutes.

  3. #29872
    Quote Originally Posted by KillaCam11  [View Original Post]
    I'the rather never set foot in Bogota ever again. I want to go to Manizales / Periera for a few days and find the untapped paisa talent. I'the imagine it being much economical compared to any of the 4 major cities.
    Almost ALL of the real hot girls from Manizales leave and go to the big cities to work because they know that they can make much more money there than they can hustling in Manizales, not enough men with money to pay them what they can make in Cartagena etc. Manizales has plenty of cheap pussy just like any city but they aren't the "A" team, the "A" team is working in a big city and come home to Manizales to visit family and holidays. That said, Manizales is a big college town so there are a shit ton of hot girls there but you better have good spanish skills and game because they aren't working girls and there are plenty of young chicos to satisfy their needs, otherwise you are much better off hunting in one of the big cities. Not much to do there either, clean and relatively safe, weather is iffy and not really more economical. Worth the visit but don't expect some mongering utopia.

  4. #29871
    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWitch  [View Original Post]
    Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.
    I don't think the time of year makes much difference, perhaps you weren't in the right places or spent much time there. In my post I wasn't only referring to "Exotic" as meaning the appearance of the women but also sexually as well. Perhaps if you visit Thailand again you will find something you like, I've always had a great time there but with it being so far away and being so hot and humid much of the year my preference is Medellin.

  5. #29870

    Calf area in San Diego.

    Hi,

    Just beginning my hopeful long mongering career. Where exactly is this are located? I would really like to get a young 18-25 girl for GFE fun during my time at Medellin, and if isn't too much trouble what is the best approach with girls I this Area?

  6. #29869
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    The answer to your question really depends on your personal tastes. If you have lots of money and time and your exposure to PFP has been limited to Latinas than I would suggest for your next trip you go to Thailand and the Philippines. Two totally different places with nothing in common with one another except they are very far away to travel to.

    For GFE in my opinion the Philippines is hard to beat.

    For exotic women in my opinion, Thailand is great with exceptional food.

    For Thailand I would recommend Bangkok and Pattya. For the Philippines I would recommend Angeles City and perhaps Manila.

    After you have visited to these two countries you may have a totally different outlook on what you like, ie.

    You may never want to come back to Medellin after going to one of these countries.

    For me personally Medellin is hard to beat, close to the USA, exceptional weather, beautiful women, and inexpensive.
    Interesting that you would say Thailand has exotic women, I went there and the selection wasn't superb at all, oh well maybe I went at the wrong time of the year.

  7. #29868
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    I tend to agree with IamLookin. Forgive me if I misread you but my perception from following your posts over the years is that you are the last person to pay well so what's it to you? It seems as if on one hand you want everything as cheap as possible for YOU. Did his post make you insecure?
    Insecure about what? I want things the cheapest for everyone. It does not bother me in the least bit because I seldom fuck with hookers. There are so many chicks that are not hookers to deal with that I don't find them a necessity, but a one-off for quick fun. And when I do deal with them I know how to negotiate my own price, so what the next man is paying would rarely affect me.

    I just can't understand why he is jumping on the other poster for trying to negotiate. Pussy does a strange thing to some guys. They will get on expedia and look for a bargain on a ticket to get somewhere, get on hotelsdotcom to look for a good deal on a hotel, but don't you dare mention to them trying to get a discount on some pussy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    It is true that if a girl sees one as a consistent customer and friend she is going to give more than the one-off jack off tourist.
    Come on man. This is not true at all. I hardly ever repeat with a chick and really never report a bad session. How many posters have you seen say I fucked this chick the first couple of times and she was mediocre. But the fourth time I took her she blew my socks off because I was a consistent customer. FAKE NEWS.

    If I DID repeat with chick then it was because she impressed me on the first encounter when she seen me as that one-off jack off tourist. How could she even hope to make you a consistent customer by giving shitty service on the initial meet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chicafan  [View Original Post]
    IamLookin certainly was not being a hypocrite assuming he's being honest about developing a relationship and consistently seeing girls he likes. Makes sense to me.
    Actually you can not get more hypocritical than that. If you have really gotten to know someone and their situation is as bad as he has made it out to be, then how could you dare accept a freebie from someone you call a "friend" and you know them to be in such dire need? A stranger would not care if she was eaten by a tiger on the way home. He is just there to get his rocks off. But if you have developed a relationship with someone and you know this is how they are making a living, then you would have to be a low down character to accept free services from them at a time when they could be with someone else who they could actually get money from.

    I live in Thailand and my "friends" that I know may need some extra cash, I find shit for them to do to make more cash, like offering them to come clean my place for me for $15. (The minimum wage there is $10 per day and it only takes about 2 hours to clean my place how I like it.) I don't just sit around watching movies and drinking with them and accepting freebies when I know they are on the verge of starving.

  8. #29867
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I got it. So it is okay if they want to punish themselves, but not okay if you ask to punish them. How are you going to get on him for asking for a 50K discount when you are getting a 200K discount? I guess these single moms struggling to get by with no real future in store for them must not be doing so bad after all when it comes time for you to get freebies. Amazing how that works.
    I tend to agree with IamLookin. Forgive me if I misread you but my perception from following your posts over the years is that you are the last person to pay well so what's it to you? It seems as if on one hand you want everything as cheap as possible for YOU. Did his post make you insecure? It is true that if a girl sees one as a consistent customer and friend she is going to give more than the one-off jack off tourist. She's still winning and it's good business for her. Some do try to take advantage but so what? It's never that expensive and the upside is you have actual friends to see. But that's no excuse for the guy that only intends to see a girl one time to hold her over a barrel because he thinks he's playing hard ball. IamLookin certainly was not being a hypocrite assuming he's being honest about developing a relationship and consistently seeing girls he likes. Makes sense to me.

  9. #29866
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    How is it a punishment? It is a business transaction. As a consumer I want to get the most for the least amount of money.
    I like to pay a girl what she's worth. Their's a lot I would miss out on if I was perceived as tight. Nobody likes to walk into a market and be exploited by an experienced and greedy trader.

  10. #29865

    A few questions.

    Hi,

    Got a few questions.

    What's the fee on the BBVA and other major banks ATMs? My bank charges 1% plus whatever the local bank charges so I'm trying to balance not having too much cash with minimizing fees.

    What does it mean when an Instagram account has photos of multiple women, I thought Instagram was one account per person? I can't tell for sure but it looks like there are accounts set up that "promote" various women. I ask because I've seen a couple of these where I know that one of them is a prepago, so can I infer that they are all prepagos?

    When the women on FB or Instagram make the "peace" sign, is that supposed to indicate 200 mil? It seems like I only see them making the sign when wearing sexy lingerie or standing in front of a bed.

    Which brings me to my last question of the day. Do civilian paisas post pictures of themselves in lingerie sitting on beds? I realize there are cultural differences but I'm seeing women on FB that will have a picture of a family birthday party followed by a very suggestive near-nude lingerie photo? It's strange to me that these girls would want their friends and family to see these photos but at the same time it's hard to believe that ALL of these women are prepagos. What does this mean?

  11. #29864
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    How is it a punishment? It is a business transaction. As a consumer I want to get the most for the least amount of money. When I go to Home Depot I get a military discount. Am I punishing Home Depot? When I go to Subway I get the punchcard where I buy 10 sandwiches. Am I punishing Subway when I get the 11th for free? These places always treat me well. Does that mean I should forgo the 10% discounted price of my tools or the free sandwich?

    The other day I was looking for rosewood laser grips for one of my pistols. The gun manufacturer, Kimber, had it for $359. I searched ebay and found someone selling brand new ones for $220. I sent them a message asking if they would take $200. They accepted. Maybe they fell on hard times and had no choice but to sell at a deep discounted price. That was not my concern as a consumer. I made an offer and they were free to accept or decline. Why would you look at it as me punishing them because I paid $20 less than what they were asking when they were already selling the thing for 60% of the retail price?

    Many posters here talk about the "struggle" of trying to get pussy back home where they are from. Do you see chicks having sympathy for them and offering discounts because of their struggle? No. Business is business. You pay the price that you negotiate. If you are able to negotiate a lower price then you are not punishing anyone; you are simply doing business.
    When I was young I haggled for everything everywhere. Even a bottle of water in China that was sold for 25 cents, I wanted to buy for 20 cents. So I understand where you're coming from. Eventually I got the need to prevail out of my system (for the most part).

    The difference between getting a discount at Home Depot or at a business online vs. Girls in a third world country is that the ebay seller is probably making a good living and your $20 discount won't make much of a dent in their bottom line. But for the girls who come to you it makes a difference. They probably don't have a lineup of 10 clients every day. And if they are providing good service, instead of rewarding and encouraging it by paying their asking price, you are attempting to punish them for good behavior. Which is outright silly. Plus, your money is not going to any middleman. It's going directly to the provider, and quite frankly they are not getting rich off you. The amount in question is probably less than you leave in tips when having a dinner out when you're back in the sex prison. Perhaps thinking of it as an act of mercy rather than a pure business transaction may be productive, as pompous as this may sound.

  12. #29863
    There is a big difference. I didn't ask for a discount or a freebie. They ask to come over because I treat them like a human being. Like a friend. Do I sometimes take them out to eat? - YES, Do I take them to the movies. YES, Do we hang out and listen to music at La 70? YES.

    Do I sometimes take them on the tours or trips? YES.

    Do you really think these girls do what they do because they like to? Do you really think they are making a lot of money? I have yet had a girl text me back that they are too busy to see me because they are so booked that they can't fit me in their calendar. ! The fact is that they are very grateful to have me repeat and see them again.

    Look, if someone feels they have to squeeze them for less money I guess that is their choice. I love the women in Medellin not just for the sex but the ones I see I actually like to be with during the day.

    To each his own I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    I got it. So it is okay if they want to punish themselves, but not okay if you ask to punish them. How are you going to get on him for asking for a 50K discount when you are getting a 200K discount? I guess these single moms struggling to get by with no real future in store for them must not be doing so bad after all when it comes time for you to get freebies. Amazing how that works.

  13. #29862

    Spot On.

    Reminds me of the saying.

    Why do women hate hookers?

    Because hookers provide the best deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    In my life long experience I have come to understand that no matter how you cut it a non-hooker always ends up being more expensive. Been there and done that.

    The Tall Man.

  14. #29861
    Quote Originally Posted by IamLookin  [View Original Post]
    But where the girl goes for 200 K and does everything I want why should I ask her to take less? I have had girls come over even when I tell them I am just going to watch a movie, they come over anyway, have drinks and give me a freebie.
    I got it. So it is okay if they want to punish themselves, but not okay if you ask to punish them. How are you going to get on him for asking for a 50K discount when you are getting a 200K discount? I guess these single moms struggling to get by with no real future in store for them must not be doing so bad after all when it comes time for you to get freebies. Amazing how that works.

  15. #29860
    There is a difference in buying or haggling over an object vs a human being that has tried their best to satisfy your personal needs because they have no other means to support their family. Sure, when I was new at this I overpaid and I have told the girl that that was then but now here is what I pay. But where the girl goes for 200 K and does everything I want why should I ask her to take less? 50 K ($15) is what I pay for lunch in NYC so why should I do that? I have had girls come over even when I tell them I am just going to watch a movie, they come over anyway, have drinks and give me a freebie. Why a freebie? Because I treat them like a human being not an object that can be bought or sold at ebay at a discount.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    How is it a punishment? It is a business transaction. As a consumer I want to get the most for the least amount of money. When I go to Home Depot I get a military discount. Am I punishing Home Depot? When I go to Subway I get the punchcard where I buy 10 sandwiches. Am I punishing Subway when I get the 11th for free? These places always treat me well. Does that mean I should forgo the 10% discounted price of my tools or the free sandwich?

    The other day I was looking for rosewood laser grips for one of my pistols. The gun manufacturer, Kimber, had it for $359. I searched ebay and found someone selling brand new ones for $220. I sent them a message asking if they would take $200. They accepted. Maybe they fell on hard times and had no choice but to sell at a deep discounted price. That was not my concern as a consumer. I made an offer and they were free to accept or decline. Why would you look at it as me punishing them because I paid $20 less than what they were asking when they were already selling the thing for 60% of the retail price?

    Many posters here talk about the "struggle" of trying to get pussy back home where they are from. Do you see chicks having sympathy for them and offering discounts because of their struggle? No. Business is business. You pay the price that you negotiate. If you are able to negotiate a lower price then you are not punishing anyone; you are simply doing business.

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