Seoul

[Kimchidick]

Hi,

Some guy posted some BS a few weeks ago about Hooker Hill. VIP is not demolished at all, I was there last week, in fact on Hooker Hill (I only visited the lower half of the hill) no building is demolished at all. How is the current situation at Hooker Hill? When you go out of exit 3 of Itaewon station, you pass the police station, from there till the corner, all buildings are demolished, except the Starbucks building (so on the main street, not on Hooker Hill). I was on HH on a Thursday, a Saturday and a Sunday, each day between 9. 30 and 10.30 pm. Several shops were closed indeed. VIP was open on Thursday and Saturday, each time there were 3 girls present, got a nice session including CIM from a girl that's been working there for years (I don't know her name, but I've met her there years ago), she a bit plumb (but not fat), nice personality, she wanted to put on the condom before starting, but I asked for BBBJ and she agreed, some french kissing is OK, several positions, and as finale a nice CIM. Texas on the main street (where last year the famous Soo-Ae was working) was closed on Thursday and Saturday but open on Sunday, through the glass door I saw a woman sitting, but it wasn't Soo-Ae, the woman inside didn't make any effort to call me in. Unfortunately, VIP was closed on Sunday, but Ambrosia (which was closed on Thursday and Saturday) was open, besides the old woman / boss, there was one girl, face plastic, but thin, several tattoos, nice attitude, some french kissing, BBBJ and several positions. The Hill has lost lots of its former glory, but there are still several shops open, and several deliver good service. By the way, I asked the girl in VIP about the rumors of demolishing the hill, she said there is no indication at all this would happen anytime soon. The shops across VIP and Ambrosia were closed on all 3 days I visited the hill.

[Yuzu7]

Please can you name all the remaining window girls red light districts left in Seoul? I Know 588 which was big closed down.

I can confirm that the following RLDs are still open for business in Seoul as of June 2019. The first two are windowed RLDs, whereas Miara is not. Listed prices are what was printed on signs at locations in each of the respective locations for short time (around 20 minutes depending on the location), but YMMV depending on how East Asian you look and how well you speak Korean.

Yeongdeungpo RLD (Yeongdeungpo Station Exit 3) - 90,000 won.

Cheonho RLD (Cheonho Station Exit 3) - 80,000 won.

Miara RLD (Gireum Station Exit 10) - 90,000 won.

[Seoul2012]

Yeah l think you definitely know more than me man. Only just getting into mongering but l assumed UK was £150 per pop. Will roll the dice on MR and see what happens. Might be best to head out to Thailand or Singapore instead l guess.

There are far more and far cheaper options in the UK. You have AW, viva street etc. 300k won gets me one pop with a MR escort in Korea, the same amount gets me a slot at the Phoenix club in London, a full on orgy with hot women and unlimited pops.

250 k would get me a full hour with 2 pops on usual with most escorts on AW. If I just want a one pop quickie for 20-30 minutes in the UK, which is what is falsely classified as a full hour here in Korea, I'the be paying something in the region of 90 k won, and that's with escorts on AW. Not to mention massage joints, brothels and other places where the services are much cheaper.

What we're seeing in Korea is providers jacking up rates to silly levels simply because foreigners are shut out of the majority of the local scene, and seem to have no choice but to comply. I've seen instances where new girls start advertising at 120-150 k won, which isn't too bad, and within a few weeks their rate jumps up to exactly the same as what the cartels charge..

[SeoulSearching]

New independent on CL. Not going to visit, because it's too steep for me, given that she has to fund her travel (no place of business).

From inquiry, after seeing her ad: https://seoul.craigslist.org/bts/d/m...900548735.html.

It's relaxing massage with happy encore.

Duration: 45 minutes until 1 hour.

• massage ending with HJ 100,000 krw.

• massage ending with BJ 125,000 krw.

But I won't do sex.

Yes I'm female, I'm 24 years old girl, student here. 156 cm 56 kg. Living near Hongdae.

[RainMania]

There are far more and far cheaper options in the UK. You have AW, viva street etc. 300k won gets me one pop with a MR escort in Korea, the same amount gets me a slot at the Phoenix club in London, a full on orgy with hot women and unlimited pops.

250 k would get me a full hour with 2 pops on usual with most escorts on AW. If I just want a one pop quickie for 20-30 minutes in the UK, which is what is falsely classified as a full hour here in Korea, I'the be paying something in the region of 90 k won, and that's with escorts on AW. Not to mention massage joints, brothels and other places where the services are much cheaper.

What we're seeing in Korea is providers jacking up rates to silly levels simply because foreigners are shut out of the majority of the local scene, and seem to have no choice but to comply. I've seen instances where new girls start advertising at 120-150 k won, which isn't too bad, and within a few weeks their rate jumps up to exactly the same as what the cartels charge.

Some girls have even complained about threats from agencies who initially 'offered' to work with them but were refused. So it seems like there is a concerted effort to keep the prices up at inflated rates. I called this out way back around 2013-4 when one of the first cartels started, a group of girls banded together. I doubt they're still in the scene or still in control, the monster they created has gotten way out of hand.

[Seoul2012]

Not sure why there were so many mistakes in that first message, sorry.

L meant to say "After a few messages back and forth the other girls started emailing me as well" and those "L"s should be "l"s too!

That is terribly disappointing; do they take your money before doing next to fuck all and telling you that you not getting hard is your problem bye bye?! Or something similar? L think the price is decent compared to the UK, where l am from, but if you are getting shit service then obviously it isn't. Also frustrating how Korean guys pay a fraction of that at OPs as well.

That's the cartel you ran into. Now you know why almost everyone on MR charges the same price. And why escorts from all over the world are flocking to Korea, because they can charge rates they wouldn't dream of charging back home, at least for the level of services being provided.

The ones that aren't in the cartel work for agencies, almost all of which are run by the same group (s) of pimps, so basically a different cartel.

No doubt they have a few genuine reports, but the majority of their reports are fake.

[RainMania]

What is the consensus on here about the Massage Republic girls? L am specifically talking about the ones who list themselves as Korean.

L messaged several of them last week, then something happened. One of the girls took exception to me using some Korean (serious, she was that petty), and started getting really personal with me. After a few back and forth the other girls.

Started emailing me as well and were referencing things that were in the emails between me and said first girl. Also the first girl was referencing things that l had not sent, disclosed or asked her as yet, it was all very strange and left me thinking that either a) this is the same girl operating under different aliases, b) the girls are all in cahoots with each other. The debacle finished with me concluding that, ultimately, what does it matter what the details are no way l am going with any of these girls regardless.

Some of the girls listed have good reviews but to all intents and purposes it is probably pretty easy to leave a review on MR so how can you tell?

Broadly speaking what do you guys think of the girls on there? Have you had good experiences or is it a scam? I am already highly suspicious.

Thanks.

That's the cartel you ran into. Now you know why almost everyone on MR charges the same price. And why escorts from all over the world are flocking to Korea, because they can charge rates they wouldn't dream of charging back home, at least for the level of services being provided.

The ones that aren't in the cartel work for agencies, almost all of which are run by the same group (s) of pimps, so basically a different cartel.

No doubt they have a few genuine reports, but the majority of their reports are fake.

[Penetrador]

General Info (updated May 2019).

For newcomers:

LIP Csfes (50 k).

Blowjob room, requires call reservation.

<Pros .

- Cheap.

- Girls range from good to hot.

- can choose girl via call.

<Cons .

- 20 minutes (reality 15 minutes).

- Robotic, No GFE.

- Switches to handjobs after 5 minutes..

Please can you name all the remaining window girls red light districts left in Seoul? I Know 588 which was big closed down.

[Caraballo66]

Where do Lip cafes or any other club advertise? Thanks.

[Tommylove]

General Info (updated May 2019).
Many different concepts and events (club orgy, threesome, relay, angel, nuru).

Please say more about these concepts.

[Seoul2012]

What is the consensus on here about the Massage Republic girls? L am specifically talking about the ones who list themselves as Korean.

L messaged several of them last week, then something happened. One of the girls took exception to me using some Korean (serious, she was that petty), and started getting really personal with me. After a few back and forth the other girls.

Started emailing me as well and were referencing things that were in the emails between me and said first girl. Also the first girl was referencing things that l had not sent, disclosed or asked her as yet, it was all very strange and left me thinking that either a) this is the same girl operating under different aliases, b) the girls are all in cahoots with each other. The debacle finished with me concluding that, ultimately, what does it matter what the details are no way l am going with any of these girls regardless.

Some of the girls listed have good reviews but to all intents and purposes it is probably pretty easy to leave a review on MR so how can you tell?

Broadly speaking what do you guys think of the girls on there? Have you had good experiences or is it a scam? I am already highly suspicious.

Thanks.

[RainMania]

Thank you to the voice of reason. Business is down here all around as the Korean gents are going to the aforementioned places as well to avoid the ridiculous domestic pricing. Anmas are openly advertising for non-Koreans to fill the void. They are also asking for the foreigner surcharge as it is a normal thing to ask for. No thank you. Those anmas have trolls on here with one post each advocating how great they are and encouraging acceptance of the foreigner tax. When is the last time you had a truly memorable experience with a Korean provider? Now, when is also the last time you had a memorable experience with a non-Korean provider? Save your money and avoid disappointment and go to the southeast Asia.

Yep!

Korean guys are literally flooding SE Asian destinations. From your local bus driver, to the guy running your local GS25, to salarymen and even jobless university students and recent graduates. There is such a big supply of k-mongerers even some local women have become 'exclusive' providers to koreans. Exclusive in very loose terms because most of these women don't really give a shit about your nationality, just your money.

In many cases these guys are leaving their wives and gfs behind to party for 3-10 days, some even take their spouses with them. I've seen a few korean women in Pattaya and Angeles city clubs, partying in a group of guys and local freelancers.

[RainMania]

General Info (updated May 2019).

For newcomers:

LIP Csfes (50 k).

Epic post.

I'm now seeing 'independents' asking for extra for incalls, because they have to book the motel room, after asking you to pay 250-300 k for one pop haha!

[SeoulSex]

General Info (updated May 2019).

For newcomers:

LIP Csfes (50 k).

Blowjob room, requires call reservation.

<Pros .

- Cheap.

- Girls range from good to hot.

- can choose girl via call.

<Cons .

- 20 minutes (reality 15 minutes).

- Robotic, No GFE.

- Switches to handjobs after 5 minutes.

KISS BANGS (70 k).

Rooms to make out and cuddle with girls under 30, takes walk ins and call reservations.

<Pros .

- Girls range from good to hot.

- 50 minutes.

- can choose girl via call.

<Cons .

- No sexual services (without extra tip ie 50 k for handjob).

HYUGETELS (100 k).

Full service with older Koreans (34 - 45 yo).

Or non Koreans ( 30 yo), takes walk ins and reservations.

<Pros .

- 50 minutes (minus 5 min shower), 60 two shots for 150 k.

- Reasonable price for time.

- OK to hot (Non Korean SO).

- can choose girl via call.

<Cons .

- Girls rate from mediocre to ok (Korean SO).

RED LIGHT DISTRICT (80 k).

Foreigners allowed in earlier hours.

<Pros .

- You choose the girl.

- Girls rate from OK to good.

- Better experience for repeat customers (BBFS, GFE).

<Cons .

- Bad cost to time value.

- 20 minutes.

- Not foreigner friendly in peak hours.

- Have to travel a ways.

OFFICETEL (130 k + 2 7 tip) min.

The pinnacle of Korean GFE, no foreigners allowed, call reservation needed.

<Pros .

- Best option for GFE at apartment setting.

- The #1 place for Korean hotties.

- Girls range from good to amazing.

- No girls over 30.

- You have to choose your girl via call.

- 60 minutes (90 minutes for 200 k + tip).

<Cons .

- For most places, you have to prove you're not a cop to the mob with papers or ID (use at own risk).

- Expensive.

- Mandatory tip (little difference in girl hotness over +3 tip).

- New girls might not provide the best service.

GUNMA (130 k ) hyu.

Massage and sex, call reservation needed.

<Pros .

- Quality 60 min massage and 20 min service.

- Girls range from good to amazing.

- You can choose your girl via call.

- Different options (two shots, relay, handjob).

- Daytime discounts.

<Cons .

- Kinda dark during service.

- If only interested in sex, bad cost-time value.

ANMA (200 k ).

Go to officetels to be treated like a boyfriend, go to anmas to be treated like a king, foreigners allowed in only selected places.

<Pros .

- Porno like service.

- Many different concepts and events (club orgy, threesome, relay, angel, nuru).

- Many different options (two shots, unlimited shots, threesomes, daytime discounts).

- Girls rate from good to amazing.

- Can choose your girl via call (+10 k fee).

- 60 minutes (two shots 70 minutes for 230 k, unlimited shots 80 mins for 260 k).

<Cons .

- Most expensive.

- Wait times can be long during peak hours.

- Non East Asians can be turned away at the door.

Barbershop (110 k) no.

Double spinning barber poles.

<Pros .

- Good service.

- Many different locations.

- Girls range from bad to OK.

<Cons .

- Bad money value (110 k for 50 minutes for OK girl).

- can't choose girl.

- Girls are mediocre at best.

I think everything is worth trying at least once for the experience, but personally I couldn't recommend anything outside of officetels, anmas, and gunmas. If you want the best Korea has to offer, you will need to pass as Korean or have a Korean friend to help you. I wonder where you could find one IG.

[Waygook12]

Price of 1 pop (20-30 mins) with a MR escort: 300 k won.

Price of airline tickets to Manila for 10 days in August: 180 k (AirAsia), 280 k (Asiana), 300 k (Korean Air).

Ticket to Bangkok for the same period: 270 k (Jeju Air), 350 k (Jin Air), 450 k (Asiana).

Hotel fee in Manila for 10 days: 200 k (3 star) to 1 million won (5 star).

Hotel fee in Bangkok for 10 days: around the same.

Budget 10 day trip to Manila in August if I book now: 380 k won flights and hotel.

If I want a bit of comfort and luxury: 700 k won flights and hotel.

Price of overnight girls in Manila: anything from 30 k won to 100 k won.

Girls in Bangkok overnight: higher, 50k won to 300k won

These are the most expensive cities to stay in their respective countries, which means there are much cheaper options with endless possibilities.

STOP getting scammed in Korea.

Thank you to the voice of reason. Business is down here all around as the Korean gents are going to the aforementioned places as well to avoid the ridiculous domestic pricing. Anmas are openly advertising for non-Koreans to fill the void. They are also asking for the foreigner surcharge as it is a normal thing to ask for. No thank you. Those anmas have trolls on here with one post each advocating how great they are and encouraging acceptance of the foreigner tax. When is the last time you had a truly memorable experience with a Korean provider? Now, when is also the last time you had a memorable experience with a non-Korean provider? Save your money and avoid disappointment and go to the southeast Asia.