Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[Mr Enternational]

I saw some that were totally ridiculous, one site claimed that the value of the international sex tourism exceeded the total tourist value for the country.

As I have said before, just look around on your flights in and out of PI. Usually I am the only one that could be considered as such. Sometimes there may be 1 or 2 other single guys. Usually if I see any foreigner at all then he is older and attached to a Filipina chick that he has been married to for 40 years. Most people on the flights are families or locals that live overseas and are going home to visit. On the flight from Bangkok it is usually Filipinos that have been to Thailand for vacation. I don't know who is telling those lies about sex tourism. Maybe those are mongers that are so wrapped up that they have confused mongering with real life. You don't even have to get on a flight; just look around in the lobby of the airport. You would hardly see anyone that could be pegged as a monger.

[Kabul Guy]

This comes out of a comment on the Smooci thread about numbers of mongers and providers.

I am curious about what the real numbers are. Is anyone aware of any impartial and empirical data on the numbers of providers, full or part time on the people involved in the sex trade?

I saw some that were totally ridiculous, one site claimed that the value of the international sex tourism exceeded the total tourist value for the country.

Also lots of definitional issues. If I come to the Philippines for purely sex tourism then I would be counted as a sex tourist, if I come for the diving and beaches and take a night out to have fun in a bar then am I a regular tourist or a sex tourist. One site claimed that anyone who while in a foreign country had sex or tried to have sex with someone other than a spouse that they were deviant sex crazed pervert and deserved whatever punishment came their way a thousand times over. LOL.

Anyone have any links to some impartial and realistic numbers?

[Kabul Guy]

..... And y'all are saying these chicks don't fear their people finding out they were looking for love online, but only fear that they were found online looking for money.

Exactly what we are saying.

The stigma of meeting on line here is not as strong as in the west. Even in the west it is dropping. I read somewhere now over a quarter of couples met on line. That is a significant number so any social shame of meeting on line will have to decline over time.

How else would a barrio girl meet, fall in love with a rich foreigner other than on line? Meeting in a bar may have a stronger shame here since we all know what bar girls are in reality.

[OlderAndWiser]

This makes little sense to me. How many of your friends and family have you randomly came across on a dating site? For me the number is 0 for females, and I would not know about the males because I do not look at the profiles for males.

The typical scenario is for the male classmates / cousins to be on the dating sites then of course if he spotted her saying something too raunchy or dressed too hot this would be spread rapidly among all her friends.

[Mr Enternational]

Whether they are actually seen or not; why they say "long term" or "just looking" is so that they have deniability in case friends or family see it which is their fear.

We can discuss the chances of seeing that but it is not the chance of it happening but the girls fear of it happening that drives the behaviours.

Still makes no matter because the only options are not I am a hooker looking for money or I am a hopeless romantic looking for a life partner. One could simply just write Hello on their profile.

Even funnier thing is that among some people there is still a taboo concerning meeting people online. I have met chicks in other countries (and even my own) that would not dare tell their family or friends that we met online. And y'all are saying these chicks don't fear their people finding out they were looking for love online, but only fear that they were found online looking for money.

[Kabul Guy]

I was recognized on such a site.

Since this thread started I saw a girl on SA that I had already met through PL.

I also went to my home city Tinder site and was looking through the offerings in preparation for a trip home later this summer. Saw a former Sugar baby there. (much smaller place than Manila but still saw her and recognized her even with new pictures.).

Whether they are actually seen or not; why they say "long term" or "just looking" is so that they have deniability in case friends or family see it which is their fear.

We can discuss the chances of seeing that but it is not the chance of it happening but the girls fear of it happening that drives the behaviours. I always wear a seat belt, knowing that the chance of actually needing it is very small but the fear or the possibility of being in an accident is what drives my behaviours.

Anyone getting fed up with pinas should browse through the Tinder offerings at home. My home city was full of fuglies, only about 2% of them would make the cut to get a second look on Manila Tinder due to being fat, overweight, demanding, massively inked (turn off for me) etc.

[Mogwai]

But who is searching the profiles of the same sex is part of my point. So the chances of her sisters, nieces, and female friends seeing her on there are damn near zero.

I think they talk about it among eachother and then search for eachother's profiles to see what they look like. Or they even show their profiles to other girls.
Women share a lot more about what's going on in their lifes than men usually. And certainly in a family oriented society like the Phils.

[PedroMorales]

But who is searching the profiles of the same sex is part of my point. So the chances of her sisters, nieces, and female friends seeing her on there are damn near zero.

I was recognized on such a site.

[Mr Enternational]

It makes perfect sense to me. We all know that there are millions of Filipina's looking for a foreign boyfriend / sponsor, so for a Filipina chances are high that her sisters, nieces and female friends are on the dating sites as well.

But who is searching the profiles of the same sex is part of my point. So the chances of her sisters, nieces, and female friends seeing her on there are damn near zero.

[Mogwai]

This makes little sense to me. How many of your friends and family have you randomly came across on a dating site? For me the number is 0 for females, and I would not know about the males because I do not look at the profiles for males.

It makes perfect sense to me. We all know that there are millions of Filipina's looking for a foreign boyfriend / sponsor, so for a Filipina chances are high that her sisters, nieces and female friends are on the dating sites as well. I'm pretty sure this doesn't apply to most American women.

[Kabul Guy]

This makes little sense to me. How many of your friends and family have you randomly came across on a dating site? For me the number is 0 for females, and I would not know about the males because I do not look at the profiles for males.

Not everything in the Philippines makes sense. The fact that they have the fear of being seen there is sufficient for them to say looking for love, until they know that they are dealing with a foreigner.

I have come across two women I have known on SA back home and dated a woman from there that was recognized by several male friends after she posted her profile.

[Mr Enternational]

They put the true love on their profile so that if (when?) friends and family see it they can maintain the illusion that they are really looking for true love.

This makes little sense to me. How many of your friends and family have you randomly came across on a dating site? For me the number is 0 for females, and I would not know about the males because I do not look at the profiles for males.

[Goferring]

That is an extreme example but the profile wanting true love and first message agreeing to come fuck for money is not.

They put the true love on their profile so that if (when?) friends and family see it they can maintain the illusion that they are really looking for true love. Once she sees that you are a foreigner she can drop the pretense because that is why you are both online

It is all about saving face.

True. But then you also have profiles like this:

" 😋 LOL.

No photo no reply.

For fun only.

Not looking for chatmate".

It looks like my recent post that PL is cleaning up its act and restricting the girls to modest head shots and no dirty talk is no longer valid. There are now many girls making their intentions perfectly clear in their photos and profiles.

Enjoy. G.

[VictorHugo99]

Thanks KG for the real talk.

It's actually great to get help from you to know how to read between the lines.

Cheers,

Victor.

That is an extreme example but the profile wanting true love and first message agreeing to come fuck for money is not.

They put the true love on their profile so that if (when?) friends and family see it they can maintain the illusion that they are really looking for true love. Once she sees that you are a foreigner she can drop the pretense because that is why you are both on line.

Everyone just ignores that she disappears a few times a week overnight and comes home stinking of sex with some blue notes in her purse.

It is all about saving face.

[Kabul Guy]

Now I found one who writes on her profile about true love.

She writes meme "Baby I am not free roght now I have a work, I have my friend whos going to meet you if that's okay" I say ok and she writes "If you fuck here how much you give here money?

That is an extreme example but the profile wanting true love and first message agreeing to come fuck for money is not.

They put the true love on their profile so that if (when?) friends and family see it they can maintain the illusion that they are really looking for true love. Once she sees that you are a foreigner she can drop the pretense because that is why you are both on line.

Everyone just ignores that she disappears a few times a week overnight and comes home stinking of sex with some blue notes in her purse.

It is all about saving face.