FKK Artemis - Berlin

[Danny227]

So with an upcoming visit this week imminent, I was hoping for just SOME positive feedback in this forum in the last 2 weeks but it hasn't arrived.

Several reports, from experienced members, of the club getting gradually worse. Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?

If not, what is keeping the club alive? I know it is the only club in Berlin with no competition, but dreadful options result in no punters. There are many other P6 options in Berlin so why hasn't Artemis closed if it is this bad? I have even contemplated trying to divert 2 meetings to other locations because of this! No joy! So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

Artemis is a club for visitors. People that go there don't normally read ISG, so they are not aware of the situation. Also, Artemis has less clients now than a few years ago, but it is still a lot.

Girls are over 50 any day and weekends over 100. The reality is that most girls are old. Silicone based. Full of make up. Nothing natural.

The reality is that girls work there so long, customer is not the center, they only care about money. They behave rudely. Because most clients are tourists, service is non existent.

Upsell is extreme, girls will not give blow jobs without unless you pay 50 extra. Many girls don't go to the room for 60. You can forget about service.

Even at palace I get better service at the moment.

Girls that used to be good in other clubs get to Artemis and become terrible. You are there to pay the girls. You are nit there to enjoy sex. Nothing is about you. All is about the money the girls get. That is the sad moto. Go elsewhere if you can.

[Nooky Ninja]

Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

It is summer time so lineup suffers with some regular stars on holidays. But club is still crowded on weekends with both sexes, and cannot be explained by all guests being constantly new ignorant, inexperienced foreign tourists (aren't they always, Mr. Trump?). You will be fine if you just keep wits about you.

Is A as good as it was 2007-2014 - no. But whole scene changed after new law forcing registration and Ninja think quality has suffered. Management not stupid and somehow the pool of girls applying has changed which affects whom they let in. And new law has given girls excuse to upsell, not helped by mongers who have too willingly agreed to this. But affects all FKKs. Some are up, some are down, things change constantly. Now NRW is heaven, before it was Hessen, soon it will be somewhere else. All an individual taste and chemistry thing, which is also why it is silly to recommend girls.

The negativity here is simply odd and narrow, which skews the overall sense of what is the reality. Many reports same people posting again and again and again and again and again, or others judging who have not been in years. So much anger and frustration - to what point? Somehow they think this criticism shows how worldly they are. But really, if they don't like club, say it once, and don't return. Part of club vibe also due to changing mongers, not only changing girls. You read older reports and it is different universe. Artemis thread used to be interesting, funny, lots of useful reports, good place to make and meet new friends. Now it is wasteland. Ninja say all this already many times before and so am guilty as rest, but say it to try to restore balance. My last words on all this.

There have been some recent good reports. So just relax, try one (power) night, not Sun-Wed. If not so great, go to private bordellos all over Berlin. Ninja prefer this option on cost/quality basis but different experience. Keep expectations in check, enjoy the pool and chill on warm day, and go slow to find 1-2 playmates who will be fun.

[The Cane]

I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

I highly recommend blue-eyed, blonde Lilia from Kiel, Germany (at least that's where she said she is from). When you enter the main room, she always stands on the far right end of the bar against the wall. That's her spot. I heard she had returned to Artemis, but that's already been a few weeks now, and we all know how these girls can be there today and gone tomorrow. She never moves much from her spot, and has no need to as she looks so good the blokes approach her one-by-one for sessions. Makes a lot of money! We both really liked Melissa at Scandalo in Malaga, so I think we have some similarities in taste. Check out Lilia if she's there my friend! I think you will like her.

[PayForIt]

When tickets sales will slow they will care. But unless a drastic decline, nothing happens. Also, many people only know Google reviews they dint read ISG. And maybe for the girls, Artemis has some supplier agreements they can't break or work with other suppliers.

So with an upcoming visit this week imminent, I was hoping for just SOME positive feedback in this forum in the last 2 weeks but it hasn't arrived.

Several reports, from experienced members, of the club getting gradually worse. Surely there must be some decent girls amongst the LU? How many girls now work in the club on an average night? 20,30, 50,70, 100? I expect the club could not survive with only 20 or so. So of maybe 50+ there just must be a few who reach 8/10 no?

If not, what is keeping the club alive? I know it is the only club in Berlin with no competition, but dreadful options result in no punters. There are many other P6 options in Berlin so why hasn't Artemis closed if it is this bad? I have even contemplated trying to divert 2 meetings to other locations because of this! No joy! So either I try one night (I only have two) but then abandon it for one of the other P6 options. I will report back, but until then are there any girls in the current LU members would recommend?

[Danny227]

Was there over the weekend. Terrible.

When tickets sales will slow they will care. But unless a drastic decline, nothing happens. Also, many people only know Google reviews they dint read ISG. And maybe for the girls, Artemis has some supplier agreements they can't break or work with other suppliers.

[Mr Ho]

Agreed, but I believe that having them pay nothing would only make matters worse by making going to "work" at an FKK look more enticing to "riff-raff" type of girls. I'm talking about those who are only there to fleece as many customers as possible. Thinking only about the here and now versus building a good reputation by providing honest and quality service to horny men willing to pay for it.

I agree, and this is something Artemis failed to do. It used to be good club with beautiful lineup with mild up sell, but delivered service. Let see how Artemis improve. Does Kennan even care?

[Danny227]

A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.

Was there over the weekend. Terrible.

[Surfer500]

A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.

Yes this place is not for a seasoned monger with worldwide experience for sure, or someone who likes the street scene like myself.

[Surfer500]

Which ones, especially which one did you like? Thanks.

Sorry don't remember the name of the gal at Europa Salon but she was from Moldavia wherever the hell that is! A larger girl but spoke five languages and very pleasant.

[The Cane]

Some of them act like that anyways LOL.

Agreed, but I believe that having them pay nothing would only make matters worse by making going to "work" at an FKK look more enticing to "riff-raff" type of girls. I'm talking about those who are only there to fleece as many customers as possible. Thinking only about the here and now versus building a good reputation by providing honest and quality service to horny men willing to pay for it.

[BigBuddy69]

Yeah I know, you told it maybe 20 times in the last few days.

[ExpatLover]

I have had the exact same thoughts as nooky about girls entrance fee. Does anybody know how much they have to pay?

Anyhow, if I were the club owner I would drastically lower the fee that the girls have to pay to work there. The club would become way more attractive for way more attractive girls and hence more customers would visit.

The club, the girls and the bears would all benefit I think.

Was there the other day, only sessioned once with a Turkish / German girl named Emira.

Have to agree that Artemis need to attract more girls and girls.

I ended up having an escort to my hotel room on a late call.

A is a terrible club but good enough for Asian guys, fair visitors but completely out for any little bit demanding senior monger, a real no go place even for free I don t like to waste my time which veteran, sili and botoxed girls.

[Tintin1]

I did however afterwards visit two low end brothels, and had a good experience at one of them, and it only set me back 60 Euros. Can't wait to get back to Colombia in three weeks. Sixty Euros goes a long way there!

Which ones, especially which one did you like? Thanks.

[Mr Ho]

I would not reduce the entrance fee for the girls to zero in an effort to discourage total scammers and rip-off artists who will undoubtedly act like they have nothing to lose (without considering their own reputations). I would make every girl pay something that would incentivize them some to have to work to get that money back. Otherwise, you'll have plenty of more scammers showing up and getting what they can get for however many nights, then moving on, either by choice or after having been kicked out.

Some of them act like that anyways LOL.

[Surfer500]

Hey Surfer500. I stopped being a regular visitor to Artemis a few years ago. There was a decline in the looks and quality of the girls there. Instead, I also shifted my attention to the Frankfurt clubs. For this club it might be a bit early in the day for the top girls, but if you did not like the girls at 2 PM, the quality of the girls probably won't improve significantly enough for you to find a suitor. You must be spoiled in Colombia. I remember the last visit I made, the girls were very aggressive. She tried to convince me to go to the room right away when I was heading to the dinner table. She said that they were not serving food. I called her on that and said look the restaurant is open. I don't know why the Artemis management did not kick these girls out. It will just drive tourists away. Your 80 Euros would have allowed you to enter again later in the evening, but since you were so turned off by the experience, you were probably wise to cut your losses. I also hoped you were able to use your time wisely the rest of the night. Where did you wind up going? Berlin is a great city to explore for a tourist. There are also plenty of other options. Hopefully, you will find something to your liking.

FiddyCent.

Nooky Ninja made some good points, primarily, don't go there before six PM in the evening! The place was just not my cup of tea at all, however I can see how some guys would like the place.

I did however afterwards visit two low end brothels, and had a good experience at one of them, and it only set me back 60 Euros. Can't wait to get back to Colombia in three weeks. Sixty Euros goes a long way there!