Pattaya Reports

[Tippe]

I did a trip to connecting Tijuana-Tokyo-Pattaya. Pattaya wins by a far margin. The way Honey 2 Body massage has their ladies line up on velvet stairs with lights is a sight to see alone.

Picked up a girl by the name of fine. She had me the moment she made eye contact along with a bright smile. Nice smooth skin, no tattoos, man made's with no scars, and smelled cleaned inside out. Got a nice shower on the inflatable mat. Complete GFE for only 3 k baht, good deal. Only 1 shot but she offered another for 1 k baht. Still beats paying $400 for the same exact experience in Japan.

[USExpat]

Think about what you want out of this. You don't want to live in Thailand. You don't think she wants to live in the States. You've already got a Thai GF you're thinking of marrying and you intend to keep fucking around as a monger. Some catch you'd be. These girls are people, doing the best they can. Doing something for the family is paramount in Thai culture, notwithstanding that many families are in fact pimping out their daughters for spending money.

What you might do is be a friend. You're thirty years older and she apparently likes you. Why penalize the girl as she tries to sort things out. You can still be there to listen to her, treating her decently as a human being no matter what she does for a living. You can play a supportive role in her life. At least for a while, if you can suppress your ego and not play "she has to message me first" games. A lot of of her young life is facade. All fake. She has enough pressure and if you connected with her in an honest, supportive way, why stop? Thirty years older -- do the decent thing and give her a non-judgmental shoulder to lean on and an ear. No pressure. Just be there if she needs you. Be the exception in her life, someone who she can trust, at least for a while. That's not a bad legacy for an old guy.

Or you can be remembered as just another old farang creep, only interested in keeping his dick wet.

Good luck.

[Falcon 95]

I am making a never-before summer trip to Pattaya in under 2 weeks! (Well, summer in the northern hemisphere). I planned this trip back in early June, primarily due my desire to see my Soi 6 bar girl Secret. Last report, we had a thing going. Before I head back there, I thought I would give an update.

But guys, don't be worried. If a girl lets you go, go find a 2 dozen more, and that it what I plan to do. I will have 16 days in LOS. I might take 4 or 5 days to see the GF, but I will have at least 10 days in Pattaya. I may feel a little less inclined to visit parts of Soi 6, but I plan on having a good time.

Hawk, any chance we'll see a picture of Secret? Of course, just the face. I have to ask because you write so much about her. Perhaps in the future, after you let her go? If you let her go?

[FL Hawk]

I am making a never-before summer trip to Pattaya in under 2 weeks! (Well, summer in the northern hemisphere). I planned this trip back in early June, primarily due my desire to see my Soi 6 bar girl Secret. Last report, we had a thing going. Before I head back there, I thought I would give an update.

Things got heated between us for a while. We were using the L word (me, not quite meaning it, but it was fun to say and to hear) and texting for relatively long periods each day. The bar girls are not allowed to be on their phones, so she would sometime send a quick message on her way to get a meal, or when she went to the toilet, etc. She didn't do it for long times, but I saved the messages and over a full day they become fairly lengthy. But when she stopped doing it, it was sudden. Yeah, in mid-July her texting dropped way down. I knew that she was depressed about her job. She wanted to quit and go home, feeling that no man would ever love her now that she was a "bad person", and said that she smiled on the outside and would appear to have fun, but she was crying on the inside. But why she suddenly cut back on her texting I was not sure.

She was approaching being a bar girl for 5 months, and that is likely sufficient time for a "good girl" to start turning into a hard core bar girl I suppose. She has never asked me for money or complained to me, she simply just cut back on her talking to me. I tried to think of reasons. Was it simply we had been away too long and the passion just died down, possibly to return later? Did she find a BF? Was she too ashamed that she feared I would eventually reject her? But nothing makes sense.

But things had clearly cooled, and likely it was for the best. I was about to give up but last week she told me she had left the bar. She mentioned her bar had a rules change she couldn't accept so she took an indefinite leave of absence. She had kept a flat all this time in the town where she had held factory job, with the intent to go back to. She went there to figure things out but, she still wasn't texting me that much, and she clearly had plenty of time to do so if she wanted. She told me she would go back to Pattaya to meet me.

I wondered if she would be able to stay away. I certainly believe she hates her job. And maybe with low season she is not making much money and that might be depressing her. She has said she wants to hurry up and make the money she wants to make then get out of there. Better to do 3 men a day than 1. She hates it, but it shortens the time she has to be a bar girl. IDK. But I still wondered what it was that started to turn her off to me. I mean, again, it is for the best overall I am sure. I am over 30 years older, her English is not all that great and my Thai is dismal, she would probably not want to live in the US and I sure don't want to live in Thailand, etc. We mesh well together, but it could never work out.

But one more GFE fantasy with her would have been nice.

I appreciate that she has never asked me for money or that she is lying. She could, right now, be telling me of her love and all this other stuff and while I am not sure I would be giving her a lot of cash, I was up to taking her on a trip to Phuket at least.

But this morning she texted me some sad faces. I asked why, as the night before she was going out shopping with friends. She told me she was going back to work at the bar again. Ugh. I asked why and she said she still had a responsibility to her family. I expressed concern that, like many bar girls, she would hate her work but feel she was making too much money to leave it. She agreed some girls were like that, but said nothing about herself. I said I knew this was difficult for her, but wondered if she was looking at me like a client, saying she didn't talk to me like she used to. She said "I never looked at you as a customer. " I used the L word then it was my bed time. When I woke up I told her good morning, then she replied with "Sorry I don't have time for you. " There are two ways to take that. It could be like "sorry dude, but I just don't have time for you to keep bothering" or it could be "I am sorry but with my work and all I am so busy right now. ". She did immediately add "But my feelings never change. " I said "You used to have the time. But I need to trust you. " She said "thank you that you still trust me. " Better than her saying "dude, I am a bar girl. You should never trust me!" haha I ended up saying "You are under stress. Not fair of me to increase your stress. " And yes, she is under stress and while I have tried to bring her comfort, having a nice guy tell you things when you think you are bad and when your customer are making you feel bad about yourself, it can add to the depression. So, I guess I will only text her if she first texts me from now on. Sigh.

So, that could possibly, I suppose, be our last message for a while. I will try to keep quiet. She knows I am to be there in 2 weeks and if she wants to be with me she can write me. If she doesn't, she will certainly see me, which will be awkward, but whatever. I am going back as she wanted me to, and while I still have no idea what happened, I have to believe it will be for the best.

Heck, my Thai GF is writing me more now and we are already planning another cruise in December. I have to admit I am learning a bit towards marrying her. She is an awesome woman, so why am I evening thinking about a bar girl? (Ummm, better breasts, and awesome vag, etc! Sigh).

Secret is really a great woman and has never tried to use me. Maybe, as she turns harder as a bar girl and desperate for money, she may start to use others. I feel sorry for her, that nice women like these feel they have to do this work despite hating it. No, I won't go all moral here nor give up mongering as, despite them hating it, they need the money and they do appreciate kind, compassionate men who have needs as well.

If Secret just needs some time, or if she found that BF or finally realized we had no future and she doesn't wish to use me. IDK. Maybe I will find the answers in two weeks. But while this is actually the best outcome from this ill-fated relationship I could have hoped for I suppose, it still as me bummed out a bit. She doesn't have time for me. Ouch!

But guys, don't be worried. If a girl lets you go, go find a 2 dozen more, and that it what I plan to do. I will have 16 days in LOS. I might take 4 or 5 days to see the GF, but I will have at least 10 days in Pattaya. I may feel a little less inclined to visit parts of Soi 6, but I plan on having a good time.

[El Moreno 92]

Just walked by at 2 pm, and they are open. 4 chubbies and one slender sitting outside waiting for customers. The opening hours on the door state from 12 noon to 12 midnight.

I wonder is that a different "4 chubbies and one slender" from six months ago when I was last there. They can smoke a pole though. I'll give them that.

[Franga]

I was referring to L O L I T A S the famous BJ Bar.

Are they now closed?

Just walked by at 2 pm, and they are open. 4 chubbies and one slender sitting outside waiting for customers. The opening hours on the door state from 12 noon to 12 midnight.

[Pradi]

Samxy bro.

Please clear your inbox. Unable to ping you.

[El Moreno 92]

I was referring to L O L I T A S the famous BJ Bar.

Are they now closed?

[Linyjo]

I am disappointed with what I have read over and over on this thread and on many others.

What I see is people come to the board to try to get help getting what they want from their trip and all they get is people telling them they are stupid and to do something else instead.

To those that came here looking for help getting what you want.

You do you buddy. Don't let anyone tell you to do the opposite and seek other things.

You have an idea in your mind of what you are trying to do, you do it. You may crash and burn and you may end up without what you want but you have to do you. It is your money, it is your time, it is your trip. You spend it the way you want to.

Chase that unicorn. Chase that fantasy. Chase that dream.

When someone tells you do the opposite, put that in the not helpful column and move on.

When someone tells you some good advice on how to get what you want, take that advice and put in the helpful column and try to work that into your plan.

To those that think they are helping by telling someone to do something totally different.

There is nothing wrong with telling someone you disagree and suggesting a few different options.

What you should also include is thoughts and ideas that help him accomplish what he is seeking, no matter how you feel about it personally.

Too often I see people telling others how to get what the one giving advice likes and wants instead of helping the guy get what he wants.

Just because you don't agree with it or think it's a waste of time does not invalidate what he wants. That is what he wants, help him get it the best you can.

People are different. What you want could be different than what they want. Different strokes for different folks.

You think it's a bad idea to find facebook girls. OK, say that but why not also use your experience to try and help him make the most of the approach he wants to take. Give him some tips on how to do it better, how to increase his chance of success.

You think it's a bad idea to try to create a certain fantasy, OK, say that but also share your wisdom and experience to help him try to build his fantasy and end the trip with a success instead of a failure.

Hey pal, I don't think Facebook is a good way to meet girls for sex, in my experience you will find "this happens" . But if you try this approach I have found that if you do "this and this", you will have better success.

Do you really think someone asking for advice to get "X" is going to abandon his wants and do what you seek instead? No, he is going to try and do his thing anyway. So let's try to help him get his "X" and stop trying to convince him that just because you like something different, that is what he should do instead. Please help him increase his chances of getting "X", because at the end of the day, he has to do him and not do you.

[El Moreno 92]

Can anyone on the ground confirm that [CodeWord900] in Pattaya (Soi Chiayapoon) was raided and is now permanently closed? A former coworker, now retired and living in BKK, told me this. He knows it is one of my favorite places and there is something in me that thinks he may be f--king with me.

But if they are closed, it would be heartbreaking to me. I have been to Pattaya several times in the past three years and one thing I would always look forward to was visiting [CodeWord900] for a quick BBBJ / CIM experience in the daytime. There were days when I visited [CodeWord900] three times. Those girls there, while they might not be 8's and 9's, sure know how to polish a knob until finish. They never failed me. I have been to 10 different BJ Bars in Pattaya and BKK and [CodeWord900] in Pattaya easily is the best in my book.

End of the road for them?

[XXL]

What's all this hype about go-gos?

I visited Windmill a couple of weeks ago. Not one girl who was hot.

I'm back from a drink at Sapphire's. Not a single curvy gazelle. Rather stocky girls. All pulling long faces. None able to move her body to music. Who made them wear those coarse unerotic outfits? Any modern beachwear would have been better. The thick bras reminded me of the things plastic surgeons give their patients after a breast augmentation.

I thought I had been slumming it at soi 6 these past 2 years but I'm beginning to think more highly of myself.

[FL Hawk]

If you have some money, and quality is important, go-go clubs are the best.

Best for what?

If you want the hottest, jaw dropping, tongue dragging girls who can get you off just by lying there (as that may be all they will do), hit up the WS agogos. Want girls who actually move, gives a near PSE / GEE and takes it as a personal insult if you can't come, head down to Soi 6.

First time I went there there was a girl who looked like she absolutely hated to be there.

Most girls probably DO hate being there!

[Trillian]

If you have some money, and quality is important, go-go clubs are the best. MPs may have pretty girls on weekends, but can be a dud on weekdays.

Honey2 had some really hot women. The girl I picked was new to the city and so hot. Said not allowed to tell me how long she's worked. She looked young, like at most low 20's. So that made me wonder. I feel like the girls are more independent workers in many of the clubs. In MPs, they could be slaves for all we know, since they don't have a say if you take them. Then again, Diamond go-go was really sleazy. First time I went there there was a girl who looked like she absolutely hated to be there. Second time the manager tried to push a new girl on me who looked barely legal--and you know those Asian faces. I got out of there.

Honey2 only gives you an hour too, so by the time I was warmed up time was up.

I also saw, as late as 2 or 3 am on Walking Street, Russian looking men with their teenage daughter and no mother in sight. Can't think of any good reasons.

It's true what someone said, you can have a lot of fun in Pattaya but only for a few days. I had to leave the city.

I did walk through the other areas like LK Metro and BJ bars. Maybe it wasn't the right time, but I never saw cuties there.

Did try to gogonutz-style massasge on the south side of Pattayasaisong 13, near Soi Buakhao. Forgot the name but you can't miss it. Good if you have no other choice, but it was like 2500-ish. For that price I'd save up for a go-go girl guaranteed to be hot.

[Old New Guy]

As I was walking, a Filipino couple stopped me, asked me was I lost and did I need help.

And? You have meet an educated middle-class family as there are anywhere in the world. In the USA people would ask me if I was lost and reminded to close the top of the car when parked. In Phuket I was bored, wrote on a forum and got to know a Thai guy (educated abroad) to go out at night. In my country once I got frantic having lost something important and a stranger drove me in his work car to look for it. Etc.

[Kickoffs]

Does anyone have Valentina's contact info. I've been searching but I don't think she son TF anymore.

Thanks in advance.

T.

Unfortunately, she's MIA possibly with a boyfriend.