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08-28-19 05:17 #25051
Posts: 16058Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
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08-28-19 04:21 #25050
Posts: 516Originally Posted by GreenBud [View Original Post]
I didn't do a study either. I just go by what I hear and see and also what I know about their culture.
Marrying into family is pretty common among most asian cultures.
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08-28-19 04:11 #25049
Posts: 895Originally Posted by Kazeu [View Original Post]
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08-28-19 04:03 #25048
Posts: 1121Why K's get the prettier ones.
Originally Posted by GreenBud [View Original Post]
Its got nothing to do with paying more, its because of the relevant facts pointed out in the post above, viz, "Young" , "sex easier" , "relate to Koreans" (Asians, flips SE Asians), eating and drinking ie "socialise". Hard core pounding for the same money with relatively overweight guys old enough to be their Daddy / Grandpa? No, not if the girls can avoid it. The more attractive girls have choice, and naturally choose the easier way to earn the same money. Koreans.
GreenBud is the first one I have seen who understands why the K's get the pretty ones.
But are the prettier ones, a better fuck? That is the question. I doubt it.
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08-28-19 03:49 #25047
Posts: 516Originally Posted by GreenBud [View Original Post]
Millenials may make less than the average tourist, but they're most likely in angeles for a much shorter time then westerners. They're a 4 hour flight away. They can come for a long weekend and blow all they're money in a few days. Westerners are flyign 15 to 20 hours and probably staying 2 or 3 weeks in the Philippines to make the long flight worth while. The spending patterns are different.
Girls are shy talking about money. Most of these girls don't consider themselves prostitutes. They won't ask about extra tips. But they know koreans pay more. I don't think Korean culture and Filipino cultures are not very similar at all. I'm not sure why you would think that. The big thing is the money. Koreans pay more, but caucasians speak english. Thats the complaint I always hear about Koreans, its hard to communicate with them. Girls get bored sitting around while their guy drinks and talks in Korean to all his buddies.
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08-28-19 03:36 #25046
Posts: 895- IMO, Koreans do not tip more than the average tourist. Why do guys think that? Because the popular girls at the large bars reject them?
- Many of the Koreans are on the young side. Millennials are the worst tippers. They probably make less than the average tourist. Koreans are the worst tippers at the bars; ask any waitress.
- I talk to many of the girls. I ask them why they prefer Koreans. They never say it's because of the extra tips. If it was about the extra tips, then wouldn't the girls ask how much extra tip the monger will give? Most of the girls do not discuss tips with the customer.
- One of the most common answer is because they relate to the Koreans more, similar culture, etc. Maybe it's because a lot of the Koreans are young. They also agree that sex is easier with the Koreans. Koreans usually like straight sex. Koreans usually do not ask for BJs, lesbian shows, or any of the other stuff I like. LOL!
- Girls like it when they go eating and drinking with the Koreans. The girls always laugh at the 3 3 3 joke.
Originally Posted by Blanquiceleste [View Original Post]
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08-28-19 01:54 #25045
Posts: 3274Originally Posted by Kazeu [View Original Post]
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08-28-19 01:50 #25044
Posts: 3040Originally Posted by Kazeu [View Original Post]
I also agree with your observation that some Koreans are racist. Some are pigs IMHO. Ha Ha. But the same goes for Farangs. I have been in plenty of bars and bordellos all over SE Asia where a truce is in effect and all groups can come to find the girls that they like, party, drink, and the girls do not discriminate because money is what counts. I guess the key to this is having the right kind of management.
Good points # 1, 2, 3, & 5. There is nothing we can do about #6 and I have gotten so use to #4 hearing lousy music in honky tonks that I no longer pay attention to it. Korean food IS pretty good, but I prefer Thai, Indonesian, Indian, Chinese, and Japanese cuisine. LOL. Some Korean girls are very attractive too. I have had the pleasure of doing a few in Macau. They were very expensive, but very, very sexy too.
Rock on!
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08-28-19 01:41 #25043
Posts: 516Top 6 Changes I hate about angeles
6. Higher bar fines. I feel like an old man saying this. But "I remember when. " the bar fines on walking street were 1800! And it really wasn't that long ago.
5. Korean restaurants opening instead of bars. Sometimes I feel like for every 2 bars that close, 1 korean restaurant opens. I rarely see new bars open, just close and name changes every few years.
4. Horrible K-Pop music all night in Skytrax. If its not K-Pop its see-Pop. Thank god for high society.
3. Seeing Koreans making it rain 20 pesos bills in the Atlantis. My god that's a perfectly good barfine there. I don't think I've seen this done by anyone else but koreans.
2. Korean vans. They come. They look. They take all the good looking girls. And they're gone before you can say "Oppaaaaaa".
1. Rejection at the Korean only bars.
I wanted to list 10, but couldn't think of any more. So it can't be all that bad I guess. ¯\12484_ Enjoy!
On the other hand:
1. Korean food is actually pretty good.
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08-28-19 01:26 #25042
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
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08-28-19 01:26 #25041
Posts: 516More thoughts
I'm saying that they would probably would have given you more attention if you are korean. There for I assumed that you were not korean. Am I wrong on this point? Are you actually korean or of korean looking descent?
I don't think we disagree on most points. I think its sucks as much as you. But its pretty clear to me. Koreans are the top tier choice for these girls.
I guess they don't agree with you that servicing all potential customers equally is a good business strategy. Theres a factors at play here and I've written about it in the past. Koreans have a reputation for paying well and not having much sex. Their caucasian counterparts have the opposite reputation, they want to have a lot of sex and tend to be cheap. That's one issue. The other issue is that Koreans are racist in general. They consider themselves above others generally and don't want others spoiling their women and thus managers may discourage the girls from going with any other races. I'm not saying this happens at all the bars by all the managers. But that's the general idea.
I'm not saying that I like any of this. To me the korean invasion was the start of the downfall of angeles for me, but I still have a good time, I just don't barfine all that often and less likely so from korean oriented bars, even though I sometimes pass for korean.
The difference in attitude between Makati / Burgos is stark, but so is the difference in price. I'm more of a cheapie charlie myself, so I haven't been there in a while, but from what I've been readin on the boards, its somewhere around 3 k to the bar and 3 k to the girl in Burgos. I imagine if you walked into any of the bars and declared you were willing to part with 6 k for a girl, you'd get quite a bit of attentiveness. To be honest, if I had money I wouldn't go to angeles, I'd stay in Makati too and pull girls from Burgos. I don't think anyone of us is in Angeles for the culture of Clark Airfield Base or Walking street. Cheap barfines. That's what I'm there for.
Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
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08-28-19 00:34 #25040
Posts: 3040Its not that they don't give a fuck about customers. Huh?
Originally Posted by Kazeu [View Original Post]
Here is the point of this post: it is in a bar girl's interest to service her customers or potential customers and do it the best she can. The successful girls generate repeat business, large tips, and are in high demand. They can make $5,000/ month or more from hooking out of a bar. Sadly, many AC bar girls barely make enough, especially in low season, to meet their expenses. Have you ever visited one of the dormitories where some of these girls live? 20 girls in a room with 1 fan & 1 window? I have. It is very depressing. So it makes absolutely no sense, as Blanquiceleste posted and as it has been observed by many others on these boards and elsewhere, that some "girls in some of the K-oriented bars give zero fucks about customers in the bar. They are sitting on the stage, some even lying down, all of them on their phones." So, I agree with the observation and the logic that criticizes it because I have seen it in certain AC bars and because I have very rarely seen that behavior elsewhere. My conclusion is that I think it's pretty stupid and counterproductive behavior on the part of the girls. I also think it is a sign of a very badly run business to allow their girls (employees) to act in such a childish, foolish way merely because the girls don't know any better. It is just bad business practice if the purpose of running a business is to maximize profits. It is also very counterproductive behavior for the girls to engage in. Yeah, I get it; they are bored and they don't like their job. So What!
By comparison just head over to Burgos Street or the EDSA Entertainment Complex in MNL to see how well trained, more sophisticated, professional, big city girls conduct themselves under proper management and with the right attitude. You will see that what Blanquiceleste and I are talking about is a rather unique situation that has developed slowly over time in a number of AC Bars that are run by a specific ethnic group and seem to cater solely to that same ethnic group almost exclusively. If some of these ethnic customer types like it this way, then I say they can have it. HA HA. Incidentally, I don't think very highly about many of the Koreans I see. Many are fools. In any case, this leaves the nicer, friendlier, let's get it on girls for me to choose from in the better bars in AC and MNL where I and other discerning mongers of any nationality including Koreans prefer to spend our time & money. That's Discrimination Theory 101.
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08-28-19 00:09 #25039
Posts: 3282Originally Posted by DCups [View Original Post]
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08-27-19 23:40 #25038
Posts: 516Its not that they don't give a fuck about customers
Originally Posted by NattyBumpo [View Original Post]
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08-27-19 21:08 #25037
Posts: 3458Originally Posted by Dg8787 [View Original Post]
Happy Birthday DC. G.