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  1. #46084
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I don't think finding P4P girls in Thailand was ever a problem and did not require much of what you mention, Goatscrot. My first visit to Thailand was some 25-30 years ago when there was no internet. There were a lot of travel books to find out about hotel rates, directions to the bars, typical costs, etc and they were available to anyone and everyone all over the world.

    When I came here in those days, I never talked to an expat, never had to do any digging to find and partake of the exact same kind of venues every expat I know goes to today. And I don't notice the crowds at these venues any larger than they were 25-30 years ago.

    However, the internet, smartphones, social network apps and so on have definitely had an impact and changed the environment, no doubt about that. But not all for the negative.

    If I had to cite the biggest internet related negative for the P4P experience vs decades ago, it would probably be these; the girls can now get a lot of their emotional, playful, friendly interaction needs met by looking down at their smartphone screen and they can easily line up the next booking within 1 minute while we are taking a pisss in the bathroom.
    Yep, travel books, and that is a lot more effort than opening up the computer and doing a web search. Information is instant now. And those guide books had a little, not a lot about the P4 P scene. I would say that information was harder to come by and spread by word of mouth. Also Thailand was considered a bit "edgy" for lack of a better term. In my view, for the most part the internet has been a negative influence on the P4 P scene. Of course first and foremost is the fact gals can run their business from their phone. When the powers that be really get around to "cleaning things up," that'll be the main way. For some punters it is great, I've never cottoned to it. I prefer old fashioned brothels and soapies with hundreds of gals. Those days are over.

  2. #46083
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I don't think finding P4P girls in Thailand was ever a problem and did not require much of what you mention, Goatscrot. My first visit to Thailand was some 25-30 years ago when there was no internet. There were a lot of travel books to find out about hotel rates, directions to the bars, typical costs, etc and they were available to anyone and everyone all over the world.

    When I came here in those days, I never talked to an expat, never had to do any digging to find and partake of the exact same kind of venues every expat I know goes to today. And I don't notice the crowds at these venues any larger than they were 25-30 years ago.
    I think Thailand was not a problem. My first trip to Thailand in the late 90s, I was getting laid by a hottie within the first hour I arrived and I knew nothing about Bangkok. I also found all of the popular night spots in Bangkok very easily. I was only in Bangkok 1 week and I found Soi Cowboy, Nana, Patpong, Soapy massages, etc. I also hit most of the popular tourist places with my "tour guide" I met on day one.

    However, a place like Indonesia is exactly the opposite. 20 years ago, we used to say that Indonesia was the world's best kept secret. The internet has drastically changed things there. I visited Jakarta immediately after I had visited Thailand for the first time. Unfortunately, I had far less success in Jakarta back then. My first trip to Jakarta it took me two months before I found the places to go in town. Jakarta sucked before I discovered where to go. Once I did discover the places, it was Heaven. Now, that information is all readily available on internet. It has had a negative effect on Indonesia. Indonesia was way more fun 20 years ago (after you paid your dues to find out where to go).

  3. #46082
    Quote Originally Posted by Questner  [View Original Post]
    8,000 THB per hour.
    That's too much really? Or is it for the night LT.

  4. #46081
    Quote Originally Posted by Aviator12  [View Original Post]
    You are joking, right? Maybe 25 years ago this price level would be valid.
    No not joking at all. I honestly wanted to ask. Its around 1000 baht for short time.

  5. #46080
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    It's made things worse. Easier to find information makes for too many punters. When you had to come over, talk to expats, and dig it out for yourself, it was far better.
    I don't think finding P4P girls in Thailand was ever a problem and did not require much of what you mention, Goatscrot. My first visit to Thailand was some 25-30 years ago when there was no internet. There were a lot of travel books to find out about hotel rates, directions to the bars, typical costs, etc and they were available to anyone and everyone all over the world.

    When I came here in those days, I never talked to an expat, never had to do any digging to find and partake of the exact same kind of venues every expat I know goes to today. And I don't notice the crowds at these venues any larger than they were 25-30 years ago.

    However, the internet, smartphones, social network apps and so on have definitely had an impact and changed the environment, no doubt about that. But not all for the negative.

    If I had to cite the biggest internet related negative for the P4P experience vs decades ago, it would probably be these; the girls can now get a lot of their emotional, playful, friendly interaction needs met by looking down at their smartphone screen and they can easily line up the next booking within 1 minute while we are taking a pisss in the bathroom.

  6. #46079

    Gloryhole

    Fellow brothers,

    Have any of you tried a gloryhole in BKK? I have looked everywhere and the best I found was a massage with a gloryhole table.

    Would like to try so fun with an element of not knowing.

    Any advice or recommendation is much appreciated.

  7. #46078
    Quote Originally Posted by Mathew1984  [View Original Post]
    I understand that Thai girls charge around 750 tbh for short time and 2 k-2.5 k for long time.

    How much do the Russian girls in Bangkok charge? Is it same price or they charge more as fair skin is considered hotter in Asia.

    And I heard the charges in Pattaya are lower. But I will ask Pattaya charges in that forum.

    Please tell my sweet brothers. Thank you.
    8,000 THB per hour.

  8. #46077
    Quote Originally Posted by Goatscrot  [View Original Post]
    It's made things worse. Easier to find information makes for too many punters. When you had to come over, talk to expats, and dig it out for yourself, it was far better.
    Absolutely agree.

  9. #46076
    Quote Originally Posted by VivaMattyVegas  [View Original Post]
    That's interesting that you bring up the Internet, because I'd assume (yes, probably incorrectly) that the Internet would've made things better because.

    1) Sites like Smooci have a ratings system, plus it's transparent in it's pricing.

    2) Don't these women know we can just rub one out and not have to deal with the drama?
    It's made things worse. Easier to find information makes for too many punters. When you had to come over, talk to expats, and dig it out for yourself, it was far better.

  10. #46075
    Quote Originally Posted by Mathew1984  [View Original Post]
    I understand that Thai girls charge around 750 tbh for short time and 2 k-2.5 k for long time.

    How much do the Russian girls in Bangkok charge? Is it same price or they charge more as fair skin is considered hotter in Asia.

    And I heard the charges in Pattaya are lower. But I will ask Pattaya charges in that forum.

    Please tell my sweet brothers. Thank you.
    You are joking, right? Maybe 25 years ago this price level would be valid.

  11. #46074

    Internet

    That's interesting that you bring up the Internet, because I'd assume (yes, probably incorrectly) that the Internet would've made things better because.

    1) Sites like Smooci have a ratings system, plus it's transparent in it's pricing.

    2) Don't these women know we can just rub one out and not have to deal with the drama?

    Quote Originally Posted by RickRock  [View Original Post]
    The internets.

    You're about 18 years late for the party, sorry.

  12. #46073
    Quote Originally Posted by VivaMattyVegas  [View Original Post]
    In my research, I'm noticing many comments about service going down and prices going up. Are there any theories as to why this is?
    The internets.

    You're about 18 years late for the party, sorry.

  13. #46072

    Russian girls in Bangkok

    I understand that Thai girls charge around 750 tbh for short time and 2 k-2.5 k for long time.

    How much do the Russian girls in Bangkok charge? Is it same price or they charge more as fair skin is considered hotter in Asia.

    And I heard the charges in Pattaya are lower. But I will ask Pattaya charges in that forum.

    Please tell my sweet brothers. Thank you.

  14. #46071
    I was bored last night, that being August 28th so I took a run over to the lower sukhumvit pit. Here is your report.

    I walked into lollipop is it in the first floor of Nana plaza. That one chick attracted my eye. I also poked my nose into the rainbow Gogo on the first floor, drank a soda water, and marveled at the lack of quality. I took a stroll past the hookers, and again, nothing, my particular eye.

    I walked into terme, it wasn't very crowded, and there were a few good looking girls but I was just strolling and not hunting. Several attempted to chat me up, they were cute, and I did not bother getting any pricing cause like I said, I was strolling. I would note that for you guys who think that termae is just for Asian dudes, please note that this fat old jai Dee geezer play die contact with at least 60% of the girls there. Only the truly blatant sculpted anime girls ignored me. Keep in mind, however, that since I stay here all winter, many of the girls recognized me as regularly cruising the place.

    I felt like getting some pizza, so I strolled up to the pizza joint, is it Pala? Under ashok BTS. Figuring I was already up there, I strolled through soi cowboy for the first time in probably 7 months. I understand why I don't go there. It's nothing more than a tourist trap. I took a swing through crazy house, they didn't ask me for a cover charge or to buy a drink, but it was way too crowded, and 90% were Asian. Those guys were getting hit for drinks right outside the door. I saw a couple of decent naked ones in crazy house, but it was too crowded for me to do anything even if I was inclined. Then I went over to cozy / KZ, the only two lookers I saw where the show girls, who were busy popping ping pong balls out of their pussy. It wasn't very crowded, but it just really wasn't my style. So I went and bought some pizza and went home.

    Personally, if I was a sex tourist, I'd probably be in crazy house with the rest of the falangs at the back bar, with some naked girl gyrating on my lap. But not to be a cheap Charlie, I'm not going to pound down soda waters at 175 baht a pop just to play grab ass with some cutie.

    StreetWise, at 10 on a Wednesday, there was a dearth of hookers on sukhumvit.

  15. #46070

    RE: declining quality

    I am sure this is true to a degree, and those of you who have more regular observations from living there or multiple yearly trips, will generally have a different perspective. As usual, we know that beauty I sin the eye of the beholder. I prefer late 20's to early 30's (especially Thai ladies) so they aren't too young.

    That said, my last trip to BKK about 18 months ago went pretty well. First night I grabbed two ladies from [CodeWord901]'s to make an initial check of the fluid levels. As expected, most there were in the 6-ish range and 30's-40's. I'd call it a bargain service, but I have also seen some decent looking ladies sitting outside there, but didn't pull the trigger. I then found my way to one of the 2nd floor places at Nana and grabbed a super hot 20-something for ST. Great face and body, but not the most enthusiastic fuck.

    Then I headed to Crazy House, and found my Nirvana. The ladies were really pretty much in my strike zone. Not too young, and not too old. Most were 8's with a few better looking, but frankly, I am shopping for attitude and personality as much as looks. I was selected by Aom. A mid 30's MILF, with a great figure, no baby damage, and a quiet but great personality. Despite paying for ST, she would stay in my room for two hours, two shots, and napping in between, before she'd go on her way. We repeated multiple times over the course of a week and a half, but one night she wasn't around so I wound up with a slightly chunkier lady with very large man-made's, who was probably the naughtiest of the ladies there. We took off for ST, and again did a couple hours with multiple shots, and she took CIM like a champ. My last night I took Aom, Chocolate and another girl for several hours, but had to wait for the McD's party to finish before we could get down to business. Thai ladies are another breed, I think.

    An interesting aside. I guess she's the Mamasan at Crazy House, but she gave me a mean hand massage for a few hundred Baht while the other lady was grinding and chewing on my crotch, through my shorts. I had to wash them to remove the lipstick. LOL. Certainly nothing unusual or special at CH, but it suited me well. I almost think the personality of the "bar" is as important as the lady, as it helps set the mood. If you feel like the bar is a hassle, it starts things off on the wrong foot.

    I was disappointed this trip to find a fave MP was no longer there. It was on the 2nd floor of an alley between the JW Marriott (south of) and Nana Plaza. She was just about perfect, and the service was amazing for the price, at the time. Oh well. The point here is that sometimes the off the wall places can be a real find, so it's important to be open to opportunities, like cart bars.

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