East China - Shanghai

[Midwestern]

Do Chinese service providers look better in their prospective homeland, than they do in Canada or the US?

Some of the hottest Chinese women whose company that I've ever enjoyed, I met at MPs in California, Vegas, and Florida,. And also in China. Some of the most hideous Chinese women that I've ever been serviced by, I met in Canada, Midwest US,. And also in China. So, IMHO, it cannot be generalized.

[Vip6682]

Do Chinese service providers look better in their prospective homeland, than they do in Canada or the US?

[DoItHart]

Guys,

Just some quick info.

I'm in Jiaxing now but ware in Shanghai for the weekend.

I've never been to Manha. Before so really don't know how it was earlier.

What I can tell you is that it's open and there are plenty of girls.

I came very late, around 2 am and I reccon there was about 15 girls there.

Starting prices was 2000 but I got a pretty good one for 1500 and she spent 2 hours with me.

Outside there was about 5 black girls but I didn't ask for prices.

Will be back there next weekend as well.

[Beijing4987]

What are the Vietnamese WG's asking for these days?

Sam was paying 1000-1200?

[Midwestern]

Guys, just wish to update you on the MP on Madang. I went there two days ago around 10 pm. I did not have much time and for me that is the fastest option. Yes, it was the day before the anniversary and I thought it was a bit dangerous, but I have risked it. Went in and got a good looking girl, I would say a 7 or 8 depending on the tastes. Very good massage and, surprise, got a BBJ for the "friendly" amount of 500. Plus another 500 for the massage. Well, with a couple of hundreds more I could have spend a great hour with a NLO girl, but when you have time constraints you have to get what the market offers. And that MP is very convenient for me to go back home quick. You guess what I mean.

The lady was good looking, nice boobs for a Chinese, and very sweet. Only a bit of rush at the end, but nothing too much annoying. And you got showers there.

Apologise I did not get the number. Furthermore, on the way out while paying the massage, saw another very pretty girl who gave me a very warm "Hello!". Looks like the place is back to good business. Hope they do not do something stupid and get closed. But prices are so far high.

Enjoy.

Thanks for the report. Based on your past reports, I'm pretty sure you're referring to an MP of a well known chain, a chain that used to be much discussed on here. This chain has gone through a few changes in recent years. Most recently, it seems that a tad more is on offer since the last crackdown, but prices have gone up since the recent reopenings. One guy reported that he got FS at the Madang location. During the recent closings, I met one girl from the Madang shop at her apartment for FS, but she still won't offer more than HJ at the shop. BBBJ is also available at the Jiangning location. But YMMV. It just depends on the girl. One girl at the Jiangning location quit when new girls there started offering BBBJ. 500 seems to be the standard tip for BBBJ. But paying 500+500 for massage and 5 minutes of BBBJ seems too much, and the massage just feels like a waste of time.

[MaxyBBJ]

Guys, just wish to update you on the MP on Madang. I went there two days ago around 10 pm. I did not have much time and for me that is the fastest option. Yes, it was the day before the anniversary and I thought it was a bit dangerous, but I have risked it. Went in and got a good looking girl, I would say a 7 or 8 depending on the tastes. Very good massage and, surprise, got a BBJ for the "friendly" amount of 500. Plus another 500 for the massage. Well, with a couple of hundreds more I could have spend a great hour with a NLO girl, but when you have time constraints you have to get what the market offers. And that MP is very convenient for me to go back home quick. You guess what I mean.

The lady was good looking, nice boobs for a Chinese, and very sweet. Only a bit of rush at the end, but nothing too much annoying. And you got showers there.

Apologise I did not get the number. Furthermore, on the way out while paying the massage, saw another very pretty girl who gave me a very warm "Hello!". Looks like the place is back to good business. Hope they do not do something stupid and get closed. But prices are so far high.

Enjoy.

[Sammi123]

I'd seen Maggie (who has been discussed on this forum0 once before and I tried to connect with her again. I had lost her contact info and called a number I thought was hers but turned out to be a fake who gave a lousy experience.

Does anybody know if the (real) Maggie is still seeing clients?

[ShanghaiMagic]

Things will continue to get hot for the several weeks before and after the national holiday and based on my past experiences I can almost guarantee you that they will both be closed at least on October 1st. Go and have a look but have a Plan b and see in hand so you want go crazy with boredom.

After reading the last 20 pages, it seems there was a major crackdown earlier this summer and the bad weather might pick up again for upcoming 70th anniversary celebration.

I have used M & J a couple times in the past (2016 and 2017) and will be back in Shanghai October 1 to 3. Will M & J be open as it's the start of the 70th anniversary celebration?

If they are closed, I guess I might go with online options like NLO or one of the advertisers like

http://nirvanashanghai.com/

Are they legit? I am trying to stay off of WeChat as it seems dicey to use atm for Indy's. I see they have a WhatsApp, but all the girls profile had the same so must be an agency contact rather than a listing of indys..I can't imagine they are an agency with such a large roster...

[The Guy]

Sad what China had and now is gone, I missed the sauna best days but experienced some of NL, SNL and of course Rain's girls. Reports mostly posted on that HK site, can't remember if I posted here. Also had some notable independents; HousewifeBaoBao, BeverlyJones, Mimi, Hujing and many other some hot, some forgettable and also many Wechat nearby, and CL hits and misses.

My take is China was only unique in the Sauna hey days and now not any different in price and quality to anywhere else and far more expensive and dangerous than HK or other hotbeds.

Why Rain gets so much attention, she kept a internet site and advertised but as others posted I dropped her as she is a crazy, there is a long review of someone who did overnight with her, enlightening for those that are curious.

Saunas were amazing, even 3 years ago. Sadly, those days are gone.

[SocratesNY]

After reading the last 20 pages, it seems there was a major crackdown earlier this summer and the bad weather might pick up again for upcoming 70th anniversary celebration.

I have used M & J a couple times in the past (2016 and 2017) and will be back in Shanghai October 1 to 3. Will M & J be open as it's the start of the 70th anniversary celebration?

If they are closed, I guess I might go with online options like NLO or one of the advertisers like

http://nirvanashanghai.com/

Are they legit? I am trying to stay off of WeChat as it seems dicey to use atm for Indy's. I see they have a WhatsApp, but all the girls profile had the same so must be an agency contact rather than a listing of indys..I can't imagine they are an agency with such a large roster...

[Tyb60]

Sad what China had and now is gone, I missed the sauna best days but experienced some of NL, SNL and of course Rain's girls. Reports mostly posted on that HK site, can't remember if I posted here. Also had some notable independents; HousewifeBaoBao, BeverlyJones, Mimi, Hujing and many other some hot, some forgettable and also many Wechat nearby, and CL hits and misses.

My take is China was only unique in the Sauna hey days and now not any different in price and quality to anywhere else and far more expensive and dangerous than HK or other hotbeds.

Why Rain gets so much attention, she kept a internet site and advertised but as others posted I dropped her as she is a crazy, there is a long review of someone who did overnight with her, enlightening for those that are curious.

[Khaveen]

This time, the website is a bit discreet, offering massage services rather than escort services, but the fact that she's back to using her same old wechat ID and same website URL makes me think she's either crazy, or she's working with LE, or it is LE. Not worth it.

Rain has 2 Wechat's she's using now plus another one that she posted about, posted asking people to get in touch with her as it's her private / personal Wechat. That's kinda sketchy. Plus she's deleting WeChat posts pretty quickly.

I've known Rain a long time and have used her girls and even her. (last time was 2015) She is more than a little paranoid which is understandable. I don't know if she's colluding with LE. Maybe 50/50 odds on that. The fact that she's giving out her girls contacts is odd based upon her history.

I have chatted with her just to say Hello, (she remembers me but I am remarkable in China - 6'3" Big red haired white guy) and that's as far as it went. I have contacts for her girls but am hesitant to use WeChat to chat with them since Wechat is none too secure with China's Big Brother deal now.

I have to go back to China in 2020 (new position) and don't need to get tagged by Chinese LE before I even arrive. Last time in China was 2015, judging from what I read here things changed significantly. I'd say Rain is tainted until proven otherwise.

[Midwestern]

The 15 days or 4 week sentence is for the first time they are convicted. The second time is 1 1/2 years of rehabilitation.

I don't think she is afraid of her boss. I think she has courage and deserves credit for that.

Oh, that's right. I forgot that she got busted once before. LE confronted a customer after a session with her and he admitted to getting a HJ from her, or something like that. I totally give her props. I probably could not have been able to tolerate the abuse she received.

I liked Rain's old website and on the forums recommendations thought she was something special. I never order girls from websites without regret but I made an exception with Rain one afternoon. I asked for the daily special. The pictures were of a very nice looking mid 20's with a nice figure. Who arrived was her face 20 years later with a 30 pound weight increase and tits that had been ravaged by babies or broken implants. In spite of the high end price they charge she did a mediocre quick time and with my blessing left early. Besides being s&m to negotiate with how in Rain anything but another scam.

So Midwestern, why do you want nothing more to do with Rain?

Before she recently got busted by LE, I used her agency for about 3 years. I always had a decent experience with her girls (but the girls usually available for the matinee special price were not that great, I admit). But she yelled at me so many times, and deleted my wechat at least 3 or 4 times. You cannot ask her any questions, or change your mind, or cancel without it pissing her off. She once published a guy's email address on her wechat moments because she was annoyed at him. How scary is that? Anyway, just before she got busted by LE, she changed her wechat ID not once, but TWICE. Imagine that. She knew that she was being monitored, but kept pushing the envelope. So now, after 5 months in jail, within a day or two after her release, she starts contacting all of her clients again, and her website is back up and running. This time, the website is a bit discreet, offering massage services rather than escort services, but the fact that she's back to using her same old wechat ID and same website URL makes me think she's either crazy, or she's working with LE, or it is LE. Not worth it.

[Five Aces]

Rain's website is back up. And now she is actually listing the girls' direct contacts (but there are only a handful of girls listed). So, if you think it's safer to contact girls directly, then there you go. But I'm not going to partake, because I want nothing to do with Rain from now on..

I liked Rain's old website and on the forums recommendations thought she was something special. I never order girls from websites without regret but I made an exception with Rain one afternoon. I asked for the daily special. The pictures were of a very nice looking mid 20's with a nice figure. Who arrived was her face 20 years later with a 30 pound weight increase and tits that had been ravaged by babies or broken implants. In spite of the high end price they charge she did a mediocre quick time and with my blessing left early. Besides being s&m to negotiate with how in Rain anything but another scam.

So Midwestern, why do you want nothing more to do with Rain?

[Five Aces]

The police going to all that trouble means they want her testimony because they desperately want to bust her boss / owner, and given that she took that beating (just to avoid a measly 4 week jail sentence) means that she's terrified of her boss / owner. But bless her heart. Poor gal. Hope you gave her some extra money or other help.

The 15 days or 4 week sentence is for the first time they are convicted. The second time is 1 1/2 years of rehabilitation.

I don't think she is afraid of her boss. I think she has courage and deserves credit for that.