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[Syzygies]

I have also noticed several better looking than usual girls on Soi 4 in the past couple of weeks, both Thai and Vietnamese.

But a few of the other VN and new better looking Thai girls on that soi have said No to me for either of those options for as much as 2,000 baht for ST.

Any theories why the standard might have been improving recently? It is possible. Police harassment could have dropped off, or Girls not liking Thermae for some reason. Perhaps Thermae got too overcrowded, and a moderately good looking girl may get a customer on Soi 4 more easily (even if have to set cheaper price).

Also seems like perhaps prices on Soi 4 are starting to rise a bit (certainly for the superior looking girls).

I think some girls will go for BBFS but might have to go higher than 2 K. I don't think many see it as worthwhile for just a very small bonus. Girls also possibly more willing if CIP not included in my experience. CIM I don't know. Never tried to negotiate for that. Many girls probably have a price, but may decline if they are swamped with ordinary customers.

I used to do Naam with a really good GFE. Her base price was 1300. When I first asked for BBFS in ST room, she said O.K. 4K. Ha ha. At least I knew was possible, and managed to get her down to a more sensible price. The best time to negotiate was while she was into it, just after a DATY cum. Ha ha. Great kisser too makes a difference for me.
Knowing she would always make more money than usual with me, she was always very keen indeed. Just did not want her friends on the Soi to know that she was giving BB sometimes, so on the Soi she refused BBFS. So I think is possible some girls will not negotiate BBFS, while their friends can overhear, but in private can be different. So keep it secret. Ha ha.

I do think any good looking girls on Soi 4 can get a customer quite easily, and maybe even 2 or 3 per night. So a superior girl there could make quite reasonable money with short working hours. Pin (ex Boss Massage) claims to do better on the Soi than at Boss Massage previously. Obviously the ugly girls will still struggle and maybe forced to do BBFS readily. The Ladyboys seem to get some customers too. Never wanted to try a LB ass myself (nor a fake pussy), so I can't really understand what makes a guy want to try a LB.

[Blanquiceleste]

On soi 4 tonight. Some very attractive, some not so. One really stunning gal down near the area of the old Rajah. Walked up to her expecting to pull the trigger instantly. Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4. Tall, white, slim, very pretty face, no baby, about perfect. Many Viets that just blow the locals out of the water.

So you refused to take a punt with her for a mere 1000 baht? And of course, potentially saved 3000 baht. Well, what ever floats your boat, but one thing is certain. Those 1000 or 3000 baht ain't going to buy you one extra minute on this planet. And in the end we all regret the stuff in life we did not do.

[Blanquiceleste]

Almost any Thai girl would go with you to Japan or Seoul for free. Singapore is possible too but Singapore hotels are damn expensive. You may have to pay her barfines if it's not her days off.

True. But hotels in Japan and Korea ain't cheap either.

Also, if you take the girl out on a holiday, you will be compelled to spend on her. Think upscale restaurants, a bit of shopping, some sightseeing etc. And those things ain't going to be cheap. Example. If you take the girl to Singapore, you will have to take her to the rooftop bar and infinity pool at Marina Bay Sands. Up there a beer will cost you $30.

Do you still want to take the girl?

[EihTooms]

If she'd have been down for 2 shots, CIM, and I'd have gotten a positive vibe, the trigger would have been pulled. She was far more interested in her phone than trying to snag a customer. Guess you can be that way when you are that good looking.
If I could find a gal looked like that who provided PSE, i'd gladly pay more than 3k, but that's a unicorn.
Viets were also right in front of Hooters as well.

I have also noticed several better looking than usual girls on Soi 4 in the past couple of weeks, both Thai and Vietnamese. For exclusively bareback for FS or at least BBBJ+CIM service customers like me, it is much harder to close a deal with those particular new faces. Or, perhaps I should just say for me, since I have no idea if other such customers are getting upfront agreements for either or both of those services. It has happened for me with a very good looking VN girl who rooms with other VN girls in the area but she doesn't peddle it on the street. I met her online first and then we met outside of her condo rental.

And, yes, in that case I was willing to pay more as long as I was going to get what I felt was worth the money; 7,000 baht for LT from about 9pm until 11am or so the next morning, both of my minimum requirements stated above agreed to upfront.

But a few of the other VN and new better looking Thai girls on that soi have said No to me for either of those options for as much as 2,000 baht for ST. I did not linger to offer any more than that and they did not counter with a higher asking price. A couple of second tier VN and Thai girls on that soi (compared to the best looking ones there now) have agreed upfront to me for less than 2,000 baht though.

[Goatscrot]

I know we're not supposed to inflate the pricing for others bla bla bla and I certainly don't throw money around but if I see a girl who is the best looking girl I've seen at a certain place I certainly would NEVER turn her away for 1000 baht more than I was expecting to pay, only to walk to Soi 4 for the next year and see no one else like her.

Glad to see some Viets sneaking in to Thailand for work. Hope they're hotter than the working girls I saw in HCMC.

If she'd have been down for 2 shots, CIM, and I'd have gotten a positive vibe, the trigger would have been pulled. She was far more interested in her phone than trying to snag a customer. Guess you can be that way when you are that good looking.
If I could find a gal looked like that who provided PSE, i'd gladly pay more than 3k, but that's a unicorn.
Viets were also right in front of Hooters as well.

[Smoothy]

On soi 4 tonight. Some very attractive, some not so. One really stunning gal down near the area of the old Rajah. Walked up to her expecting to pull the trigger instantly. Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4. Tall, white, slim, very pretty face, no baby, about perfect. Many Viets that just blow the locals out of the water.

You've been in Bangkok 20 years now and that's the best looking girl you have ever seen on soi 4? She must have been stunning. But you passed on her for 3000 baht? Hell, that's still cheaper than a gogo girl.

[Steve 9696]

King of the World experience? Vegas or an FKK.

I haven't done a King of the World for ages for two reasons: I don't drink anymore and at my age, spending $20,000 for a night of debauchery isn't a good value. Dollars not baht. Real Kings of the world don't rule in Thailand, they go to the USA or Europe.

Hahaha. Yeah not real king of the world. Just whatever $300-500 buys you! Yes FKK is king of the world. And Moscow — kind like Thai gogo but the bar tenders and waitresses and the equivalent of coyotes are all bar finable. So you feel like a king. Scandallo Brazil is king of the world for $300 for sure.

I know I can go other places (and do) I just want the best I can in Bangkok with the budget I mentioned.

[Nyezhov]

Natty I had no idea you knew the expensive venues as well. You are a veritable font of knowledge. So let me ask you this (others as well). While I like saving a buck as much as the next guy let's suppose I can spend around 8-10 K Baht a night for six days. So let's say 50-70 K baht for the week. I know I can do it for ALOT less, but I don't want to rule things out.

And I LOVE the king of the world experience, where it's not just pick a girl and go. I like spending time in the club with lots of choice. A nice venue. Dancing with the girls, drinking and getting friendly. And then take my favorite after a couple of hours of fun and girl shopping.

Given all the above what would be your top recommends?

Thanks Steve.

P.S. I just reposted some useful FRs in London and So Paulo threads for those that enjoy a good FR. Also having GREAT success stateside (and in Buenos Aires and London) with Seeking Arrangement. Seniors IM me if you want details.

King of the World experience? Vegas or an FKK.

I haven't done a King of the World for ages for two reasons: I don't drink anymore and at my age, spending $20,000 for a night of debauchery isn't a good value. Dollars not baht. Real Kings of the world don't rule in Thailand, they go to the USA or Europe.

[Steve 9696]

Natty I had no idea you knew the expensive venues as well. You are a veritable font of knowledge. So let me ask you this (others as well). While I like saving a buck as much as the next guy let's suppose I can spend around 8-10 K Baht a night for six days. So let's say 50-70 K baht for the week. I know I can do it for ALOT less, but I don't want to rule things out.

And I LOVE the king of the world experience, where it's not just pick a girl and go. I like spending time in the club with lots of choice. A nice venue. Dancing with the girls, drinking and getting friendly. And then take my favorite after a couple of hours of fun and girl shopping.

Given all the above what would be your top recommends?

Thanks Steve.

P.S. I just reposted some useful FRs in London and So Paulo threads for those that enjoy a good FR. Also having GREAT success stateside (and in Buenos Aires and London) with Seeking Arrangement. Seniors IM me if you want details.

[Syzygies]

On soi 4 tonight. Some very attractive, some not so. One really stunning gal down near the area of the old Rajah. Walked up to her expecting to pull the trigger instantly. Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4. Tall, white, slim, very pretty face, no baby, about perfect. Many Viets that just blow the locals out of the water.

I passed Soi 4 later looking for tall Mai. She was missing again. Passed 4 white skinned Viets (heard their language) in front of Rajah Broadway, one quite pretty (but not my spec). None were tall so I guess different ones. Tall girls on the Soi seemed to be all LBs tonight except for hottest girl I saw in skin tight semi see through outfit showing her fabulous ass (not large just perfect) was a black girl with curly hair. No chance to check her out properly as she was hurrying down the Soi. Some LBs with a good face but body no where near as good as the black girl. LBs often have an exaggerated curve from waist to thigh that just looks wrong and artificial.

Nearly considered a Thai girl on hooters corner, but waist was just a bit too thick for my liking. Overall standard a bit lower than my previous visit. I can just miss out till the morning. Earlier checked out a couple of Cowboy bars, but was probably too late in the evening as the talent levels were down. Kazy Kozy was poor. Not enough girls were nude, and not enough girls were pretty (meaning almost none), and they have silly shows too much. Customers were really quite low, where Crazy House would be busy. I guess better girls had been BFed already. I still believe if attending bars, one really must be there by 9 pm latest, otherwise can see the dregs remaining.

[BestTimeEver]

Anyway, have a great trip. Don't over plan. I am looking forward to hearing about your trip.

Haha. Too late, I always over plan! But that's just me, and it helps me with making decisions. Thanks a lot for your input Natty. And of course I will try to report back on anything interesting.

Your points are all very valid and a great addition to the knowledge base on the Pimp. So only with the intention to add to your points, not to dispute anything, hereby just a few additional remarks.

Because my free (mongering) time is becoming more and more scarce, I'm caring less about the costs. After all, it may be that my next punt will be in one year, so I will have time to save for my next trip. Your note on the value of memberships sounds very true, it pays off to be in BKK longer. But my spend for one evening can be higher than for a resident. Perhaps it needs to be, as it is more critical for me to hit bullseye with any party during this one week. Residents can think that there will be something better next week. But for me, there will be no next week (in BKK).

As a last note: I will probably not base my decision (whether to go to the Pimp or not) only on the basis of any horizontal action. I will also include the music, a night of entertainment by pretty girls, a good view on more pretty girls, and also the thrill of doing something new. If it were only about getting laid, I totally agree that there are other better options. Indeed, it all depends on what we are looking for, as you rightfully stated.

[Member #4698]

I have been looking around to find prices for the gentlemen club The Pimp.

Costs per lady for the first hour, for members / non-members:

- Pr 1,650/1,900. Dancer 2,310/2,660. Bikini 2,310/2,660. Model 2,310/2,660. (additional hours are 660/760 for all girl categories).

Membership for 12 months equals 20,000 bht, which gives you one of the following (next to entrance):

- 6 bottles Black Label (1 L). - 7 bottles Henessy VS (70 CL). - 6 bottles Absolute (70 CL). - 80 bottles Heineken - 80 bottles Singha.

Non-membership options (including entrance):
- 1 bottle Black Label: 5000. 1 bottle Gold Label: 5000. - 2 bottles of beer: 1000 (entrance is per person; normally beers for 360).

In addition you can get a spot in the live band zone for 600 bht or private VIP rooms / party rooms ranging from 2,500 thb to 10,000 thb. The girls seem to get more hands-on inside the private rooms, so that may be worth it. Otherwise, I think I would prefer the live band zone. So perhaps a combination is possible to arrange. Membership required if you want to make a reservation for private rooms on Friday or Saturday. Online booking seems to give some discounts. Combining the above in various ways, this is a set of packages that may be interesting:

- 3 guys (1 is member): 3 x4290 (3 girls, 4 hours) + 2500 (small VIP room) + 18000 (6 bottles Black Label 1 L at discount + membership 12 months) = 33370 (11123 per person).

Now this assumes we only drink Black Label and that you will need 4 hours to empty one bottle (for 1 guy and 1 girl). The last two packages assume 2 bottles, in case you need it (I drink a bit faster and those girls are trained to drink). Now probably the girls will want you to buy some tequila shots and have some food as well, so you may consider the above packages as minimum prices for 4 hours of fun. And the above also assumes online booking for the discounts. And oh yes, it also assumes that you need 1 girl to satisfy your needs. Just add 4 - 5 k for every girl you need extra for the 4 hours.

Disadvantages? Obviously: no ST rooms on premises. And it's quite far away from the regular Nana / Cowboy area. You would have to prepare some transport.

Advantages? Girls are probably very pretty and with a large selection there's something for everyone's taste. Good service can be considered guaranteed at this price. Entertainment and atmosphere will be top.

My conclusion? Yeah, it's pricey! Value for money? Only one way to find out. The 3 guys option above seems most attractive for me, anyone interested 20-25 November just PM me.

Well it certainly looks like you did your homework BTE (BestTimeEver). The Pimp Club obviously intrigues you and I am one of the last guys on this forum who would try to discourage you from going there. I have been there and all I have to say is that with the right attitude and a credit card, the Pimp Club can be a lot of fun and you will meet some very sexy and interesting girls, but here are a few things to consider before you go:

#1 the amount of time you plan to spend in BKK is a factor. For example, if you are only staying here for a week or so the benefit of the Pimp Club declines rapidly unless money is no object and you just want to enjoy a night in the club fooling around and drinking with 3 or 4 girls. The tab for such a night will run you 15,000 to 30,000 baht depending on how many girls you ask over and how long you keep them. You also have the option of taking a girl or girls to a private VIP room for 5000 per hour where she or they will be topless and you will have a lot more hanky panky, but none of the private in club entertainment will include vaginal intercourse, although many Pimp girls will barfine and the barfine is 25 lady drinks + the girls fee of 5000 baht or more for a LT overnight session. It should be noted though, that most Pimp girls are good girls and they will tell you not to waste your money and barfine them, but rather to add them to your Line account so the two of you can make arrangements to see each other at your hotel later. This is where being a member and staying for longer periods of time in BKk begin to make the membership pay dividends. I kind of like the idea of having a repeat favorite Gentlemen's Club girl even if the initial cost of finding one is very high, too high for most ISG'ers I am afraid.

#2 it is probably better to visit the Pimp Club with a couple of friends. That way you can defray some of the cost and it becomes more fun to take a group of girls, 2 or 3 girls per guy, to a private room for a party and then in the room you can let one or two go after the 1st hour if they are not adding anything really good to the mix. Remember, if going solo there is also an option for a mini Pimp Club membership for 5 k and with that you get 2 bottles of Black Label. So, if you only have 1 girl and already have membership the cost is not too high, but I guess that depends on your definition of "too". 555.

#3. The question of looks ie are the Pimp girls better looking than A) Go Go girls and or B) Soapy Massage girls? Well, IMHO the average Pimp Club girl are not better looking than the top 5% to 7% of Go Go girls in my favorite Go Go's. They are just different. Pimp girls are light skinned and a little older, in their mid-twenties compared to your above average 19 to 22 year old Isan Go Go girl and Silly Cones are more prevalent with your average Pimp Club girls. Thus, a more apt comparison would be between Pimp girls and high-end Soapy girls like the ones found in Maria Hotel Spa. Here the comparison is roughly on par facially, ethnically, and age wise.

So, the choice turns on what are you looking for and how much you care to spend. If your time is short and you want to lay attractive, twenty something, light skinned girls, then go to Maria Hotel Spa. You will spend 3000 to 10,000 baht for a full-on session with one of their girls and you won't regret it. In fact, doing 3 Maria Spa girls in one long night will probably not cost you more than drinking for 3 or 4 hours while fondleling and recieveing hand jobs from 2 or 3 Pimp Club girls in a VIP private Club room. Take your pick. They are two distinctly different types of nights out on the town but with similar looking, light skin girls.

Anyway, have a great trip. Don't over plan. I am looking forward to hearing about your trip.

[BestTimeEver]

It's not that far out really. Only a km or 2 from RCA. I went to Saeng Jan entertainment hall just up the road from there with a Japanese buddy once. Not a problem for location. At night time would not expect traffic jams. Could even choose a closer Hotel like Swissotel Ratchada to stay, or Holiday Inn Soonwijai.

No ST rooms simply means they want to maintain some class (ha ha) rather than being a straight brothel, despite the name. I am sure some guys on here have attended.

Not for me personally. I buy drinks in a gogo bar for a bit less. However if you want more class and can afford it, great.

Yeah, I know, you're right. It's not that far. Even though many taxi drivers will try to take you for a sightseeing tour LOL For the distance I'm more concerned for the way back, I've read somewhere that there are hardly any taxis waiting around closing time at 5 am.

For me it will probably be just a one-time experience to enjoy, out of curiosity, before switching to something else like gogos, MPs or anything else.

[Banana Boi]

Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4.

I know we're not supposed to inflate the pricing for others bla bla bla and I certainly don't throw money around but if I see a girl who is the best looking girl I've seen at a certain place I certainly would NEVER turn her away for 1000 baht more than I was expecting to pay, only to walk to Soi 4 for the next year and see no one else like her.

Glad to see some Viets sneaking in to Thailand for work. Hope they're hotter than the working girls I saw in HCMC.

[Syzygies]

On soi 4 tonight. Some very attractive, some not so. One really stunning gal down near the area of the old Rajah. Walked up to her expecting to pull the trigger instantly. Was expecting the usual 2 k tariff. She quoted 3 and wouldn't budge off of it. I asked for 2 shots and CIM. Both refused. So I passed, but I'm sure she'll get her price. Best looking gal I've seen on soi 4. Tall, white, slim, very pretty face, no baby, about perfect. Many Viets that just blow the locals out of the water.

Ha ha. Yeh I reckon they know what they can get. Stands to reason the standard improves on Friday and Saturday nights. Most of the girls I met seemed to be less keen on negotiating.

One of my favourites (a tall Bangkok Thai girl Naam) had a price only 1300, and strangely many customers (various nationalities) were trying to negotiate down to even well under 1K. She never showed any interest in talking to them any further. Heard she now has a sponsor and is pregnant to boot.

I was really weird. I offered her more than 1300, but I wanted special treatment. She performed just great for me including GFE. Her only weakness for me was quite small tits, and of course not being there any more.

Those that say the Soi has only dogs, are a little misguided I think. The standard can vary wildly. I still want a chance with the stunning deaf girl if she ever shows up again. She could nearly name her price she was so hot of the slim type. Her face was amazingly pretty to my taste (but could have been under age). She was way better to me than any of the girls in the bars. Only ever saw her once or twice and she tried to fob me off onto her friends.