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[Engine Driver]

I forgot to add that towards the end of our meeting, her eyes started to tear up and I gave her a napkin to wipe. When I asked why she was upset, she said firstly, Christmas carols made her sad and then the fact that I was going to disappear forever after the meeting made her even sadder.

I told her it was better to be upfront now than to drag it on for too much longer. Needless to say, I did not get her into the hotel room for horizontal refreshment.

That's two hours of my life I won't get back.

And I can safely delete all my dating apps knowing that I will not be missing a thing. I strongly urge all mongers not to waste time on those apps. It can be flattering and addictive, but it only leads to misery. Once you are in the Philippines, all sorts of opportunities will arise to fuck chicks. These apps just get in the way and hold you back.

[Engine Driver]

Thanks for the advice DG and E. She has now agreed to come on her own as long as it's at the mall. We are having coffee tomorrow at Greenbelt 3. Let's see if I can then show her the view from my hotel room. Hahaha.

This is a rather long post so please indulge me. It has no explicit sexual content, so please swipe left now if that doesn't interest you. Just on the bus to AC, so have two hours to kill haha.

Underwhelmed.

So I went out to meet this 32 year girl at Seattle's Best Coffee Shop at Greenbelt. She was on time at 4. 00 pm. Must have been a world first for a Pinay. Gold medal material. She had traveled out from QC for three hours. I actually walked past her a couple of times as I couldn't recognize her. She recognized me (pretty hard to miss me hahaha). She looked nothing like her pictures. She was a frumpy mess, wearing cheap clothes and cheap librarian glasses. She did not look anything like her Tinder photos and to add further to my disappointment, she had some sort of skin condition below her eyes which were photoshopped out on her profile pics. She was completely out of place and out of her depth at Greenbelt. It was very embarrassing for me actually as I'm a suave Idris Elba type. Even Forest Gump or Fat Albert would have been embarrassed to be seen with her. I was very unimpressed that she had made no effort for a date, but then maybe they were the best clothes she had. Even an AC hooker would have made more of an effort. I said Hello, "M" and she was just too shy to say anything. Miss Congeniality she was not.

Nervous Wreck.

Poor girl was a nervous wreck. So soft spoken I could hardly hear a single word. Furthermore she couldn't understand much of what I was saying as us uneducated, gruff train drivers speak very rough, guttural English. We certainly don't have the Etonian clip which she was probably accustomed to hearing in QC hahaha. So we kept repeating what we were saying. Even ordering a coffee for her was a major fucking ordeal. She just said "up to you". FFS silly woman, a coffee is not up to me, it's up to you! She finally said coffee with milk after much coaxing. I ordered a cafe latte for her and an Americano for me because they can't fuck that up too much.

Dating History.

We asked each other about our dating history and I told her I was looking to marry a nice Filipina lady to share the rest of my life in Rich White Man Land (RWML). Hahaha. I told her I was previously married to a white woman and I did not want to make the same mistake again. She had been on various dating apps for years. She had had a two year online relationship with an Israeli guy who lived in Tel Aviv. It appears the Israeli just ran out of patience with her as she offered nothing in return for his enormous generosity. She's just a taker. They had even booked a civil marriage ceremony in Tel Aviv before he came to his senses and bailed out just in time. He was apparently averse to flying, so had not visited her in Flipsville. But I believe it. He had spent thousands of dollars on her and her kids on school expenses, presents and bills. He also paid for her to take solo holidays to Thailand and Hong Kong just to get the necessary passport chops in their totally valueless Pilipinas passports. I guess Pinays need to prove their bona fides and show they won't abscond.

After 12 months of pestering, she finally allowed him to masturbate in front of her on cam, but she would not even expose a single nipple. She's a prude of the highest order. She said the sexiest she could do for him was to wear a spaghetti strap top. No wonder the poor bugger quit.

She had also dated a Australian and an African American for several months each. Those horny fuckers also bailed after they realized she wasn't going to strip off on cam. Hahaha.

Intransigence.

I told her that she shouldn't be so intransigent in her ways and needed to be more flexible when dealing with foreigners. She refused to accept what I was saying and that she would never compromise her Christian values. Looks like she will be on the shelf for a very, very long time. I can just imagine how boring sex would be with her. Lights out, clothes on, no foreplay, missionary only. And she'the have a headache on all the days that she didn't have her period. She has no clue that she has zilch to offer a westerner. I have now dealt with a few Pinays who are convinced that a westerner is just moments away from taking them away from the shitholes into RWML.

Sadness and Misery.

She said she had not eaten since 11.00 am so I asked if she would like some dinner. Do you think she could decide? We walked a few yards over to Havanna Cafe. By this time I didn't even bother to ask what she wanted to eat as I would not get an answer. I just ordered a pizza as I know Filipinas love pizza and pasta. She said she doesn't drink. Yeah I had already figured that out. Haha. (For you out there wanting to know, no it was too early for the hookers to arrive at Havanna Cafe.).

I suggested to her that maybe she should not use Tinder as it's full of horny mongers on location looking for casual sex. I also told her that most of the girls on Tinder were hookers. She just dismissed me as if I didn't know what I was talking about. Naive and stubborn to the end. I said to her that dating apps cause nothing but sadness and misery and most men on them are married and just seeking free cam sex. She did not want to hear of it. Like WR mentioned, they all think that a rich Prince Charming is only one swipe away. I asked her what her success rate was after three years? She just gave me a blank stare. She was too stupid to realise it was zero. Idiot.

She then described how her best friend had been so successful in ensnaring an Australian man. They have now been married for three years. Funny thing is that the best friend and her Flip kids have never set foot in Australia. Not even on a tourist visa. I asked her wasn't that a bit odd? Married, but the man has never taken her to Australia. She replied, no, he's a good man and visits every year. I told her that he's already married in Australia, and her best friend is the secret wife. She was too naive to read the play. It looks like he visits her just to bang her for a few weeks before going back to his Aussie wife. The Australian authorities are not stupid and aren't going to hand out spousal visas for scam marriages.

Sawdust.

This lady has a degree in computer science and previously worked for a medium sized construction company as a purchaser. She now runs a sari sari store. I've met some stupid, naive Pinays before, but this one was the dumbest and most ignorant by far. At least the hookers I deal with are pragmatic and street smart. I've often said Pinays are bird brained. But to say this lady was bird brained would be an insult to God's feathered creatures. This lady has sawdust in her head. Some sexpats on this board claim that Filipino graduates are the smartest on earth, even surpassing Harvard and Yale graduates in intelligence. Well I don't know which University this lady purchased her degree from, but in my country, she would be at junior high school Year 8 standard. Education or no education, I can't believe how limited their vocabulary is. I could not use any words more than three letters long as she couldn't understand what I was saying.

Experiment Results.

Having conducted a number of field experiments now, I can safely say that:

1. I would never ever marry a Filipina.

2. Dating apps cause nothing but sadness and misery for everyone. Point and shoot is definitely more fun.

3. Pinays are more stupid and ignorant than I thought.

4. The sexpats on this board need to return to their home countries for a while to get back in touch with reality.

[Engine Driver]

I have met families 3 times. Take a gift of a bottle for dad, flowers or chocolates for monm and if any sisters or brothers around some chocolate or inexpensive gifts would be the norm. I have taken tee shirts, ball caps and other trinkets.

Every time I have met it was basically a formality, they saw I was real and had the class or cultural awareness to bring small gifts. (Something from home can also work wonders.).

After the formalities are observed, they will let you fuck the daughter all you want. In one case she was an 18 year old virgin and they were OK with us living together and playing house for a couple of months.

I am in Cebu now and will be meeting Mom #4, soon. Daughter is in her 30's but cannot meet me for anty fun until Mom or Dad provide their approvals. I anticipate immediate approval and to bring daughter back to my Airbnb after meeting.

What's the motivation behind the families giving up their daughters pussy to a horny, old monger?

1. The possibility of untold riches?

2. A one way ticket out of Shitsville?

3. Prestige?

This must be the only Asian culture where promiscuity is actively encouraged. I've got to get out of this country. It's totally doing my head in.

[Kabul Guy]

Interesting question, I have quite similar situation with this one. She is a 19 yo in Toledo, but I could wait for her in Cebu and she says her father wouldn't agree for her to take bus. So she ask me to come in Toledo, even hotel. And then she could stay with me.

I am not really interested in meeting with father.

What would be your advice?
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I have met families 3 times. Take a gift of a bottle for dad, flowers or chocolates for monm and if any sisters or brothers around some chocolate or inexpensive gifts would be the norm. I have taken tee shirts, ball caps and other trinkets.

Every time I have met it was basically a formality, they saw I was real and had the class or cultural awareness to bring small gifts. (Something from home can also work wonders.).

After the formalities are observed, they will let you fuck the daughter all you want. In one case she was an 18 year old virgin and they were OK with us living together and playing house for a couple of months.

I am in Cebu now and will be meeting Mom #4, soon. Daughter is in her 30's but cannot meet me for anty fun until Mom or Dad provide their approvals. I anticipate immediate approval and to bring daughter back to my Airbnb after meeting.

[Albert9989]

Interesting, very interesting.

Thanks to ED, its because of his post that I reminded this cutie and his proposal to meet with dad. So I asked.

And now, I can see two very different options. ISG forum is really a great forum, Thanks to all for your answers.

The last options are really interesting, even if I am really not used to this kind of process. But really I would like to give a trial.

And all last details given by Steve could be a good basis to arrange that.

I will keep you aware of my choice when iw ill be there.

Thanks again to all.

[Steve Nash]

Interesting question, I have quite similar situation with this one. She is a 19 yo in Toledo, but I could wait for her in Cebu and she says her father wouldn't agree for her to take bus. So she ask me to come in Toledo, even hotel. And then she could stay with me.

I am not really interested in meeting with father.

What would be your advice?

Could I just hire a car with driver to go to Toledo and then if ok drive back to Cebu with her?

Can I avoid to meet with family. ?

I had stopped contact with her after this exchange, but your post ED, reminds me her, and she is quite pretty. So. I am wondering.

If I was you I will go there for 2 nights.

I went there once to meet a beautiful Pinay, you could stay at the resort I stayed I think is call The Ranch resort, it has a nice pool and a ranch with alot of animals, nice place to get to know your girl, and since she said she can stay in your hotel even better, worse case if the dad wants to meet you you can invite him at the resort pay for half a day entrance to the pool, and after that he will leave and leave you alone with her. Of course, I will try to avoid meeting the dad, but as a worse case scenario is not bad putting up with the dad for half a day and then screwing-up his beautiful daughter for two straight nights or even longer if you want.

One thing I notice is that Toledo has beautiful women, I had slept with 3 of them and 2 of them were really hot they both look like Korean but with blonde hair. So is worth it going there for a couple of nights, plus is not far from Cebu City either, like 1 hour only, if you go by van with air cond is only like around 150 php one way.

There are nice beaches there, and there is a cool place in the beach where you can bring your girl, is call Bugsay, it has live band and is pack with young filipinas on weekends, when I was with my girl, I went to the washroom, which is outside the live band place, yeah you got to pay to get in, but is very cheap. And while I was walking to the toilet, I met this girl, she was with her friends, we exchange numbers, I couldn't do much because my girl was waiting for me. But when I got back to Canada we chat abit and agree to meet on my next trip. When my next trip came, she came to Cebu City to meet me. She stayed with her cousins at first and then later with me, hard to get rid off her afterwards but it wasn't bad. See most Toledo girls have either a family or friend in Cebu City, so is fine for them to go there sometimes.

Other place you can go in Toledo to meet girls or to bring your girl is a place call: Payag, it has live band also but it kind of looks like a concert with a stage and tables to sit in groups, is an open place also, but yes you also have to pay, but is also cheap. Nice place to meet girls who are tipsy.

Or you can do like the third girl from Toledo that I met, she also has strict parents, so she lied to her dad that she needs to go to Cebu City with her best friend to buy some school supplies since her college classes was going to start in a month. Of course at the end she never buy school supplies, instead, she spent 2 nights getting to know my supply.

[Wicked Roger]

Interesting question, I have quite similar situation with this one. She is a 19 yo in Toledo, but I could wait for her in Cebu and she says her father wouldn't agree for her to take bus. So she ask me to come in Toledo, even hotel. And then she could stay with me.

I am not really interested in meeting with father.

What would be your advice?

Could I just hire a car with driver to go to Toledo and then if ok drive back to Cebu with her?

Can I avoid to meet with family. ?

I had stopped contact with her after this exchange, but your post ED, reminds me her, and she is quite pretty. So. I am wondering.

Albert.

Toledo is an OK place met a few girls there and slightly further afield. V hire is OK but more comfort is a taxi as V hire is cramped for an hour (I drive my car or taxi).

Meeting family is likely the only way to get inside her panties LOL with her father's approval.

Same as Goffering I have seen the girl's parents or one of them and once met and approved (well who not approve of a an overweight horny old monger like me LOL) all was fine and the family disappear or you end up in a hotel in Toledo.

Some parents happy to let you whatever your dirty naughty mind wants to with there princess as long as you meet them. Maybe bring something nice for the parents such as a good box chocolate or some tequila for Dad? Always helps (just ask her what her Dad likes).

Ultimately is 'up to you' (to use that horrible pinay phrase. But just try and see as is a day out if nothing else.

[Goferring]

Any girl offering for you to stay with her family is not expecting a regular bedroom pounding every hour or so.

The goal is for us to maximise our time in bed not the girls convenience and family issues. Family and fun are mutually exclusive.

Not always. I've only been rayped twice and one of those was when I took a girl back to the province and stayed at the family house. We were allocated the one true bed room in the house and upon arrival everyone conveniently disappeared to allow us to relax after the long journey. To say I had no option at all in what happened next is a total understatement. She was VERY determined to say thanks for coming to see the family and there was no slowdown for the rest of the stay.

Yes, I was funding dinner and outings for everyone but costs were cents per head and still far less than one night on Burgos.

I'd agree it's not a good idea for someone a monger has never met before but for a known and skilled special friend it can be a wild few days.

Enjoy. G.

[Albert9989]

Haha, thanks to all, no need for further answers, and not surprised by your answers also.

Seems crystal clear.

[Mr Enternational]

Interesting question, I have quite similar situation with this one. She is a 19 yo in Toledo, but I could wait for her in Cebu and she says her father wouldn't agree for her to take bus. So she ask me to come in Toledo, even hotel. And then she could stay with me.

I am not really interested in meeting with father.

What would be your advice?

Could I just hire a car with driver to go to Toledo and then if ok drive back to Cebu with her?

And when you drag your ass all the way to Toledo and she goes dark, what then? Keep your ass on the shore and fish from there. Don't go jumping into the water chasing fish around. You made an effort to go all the way to PI. The least they could do is to meet you somewhere civilized. If not, then there are thousands of others that will.

[Engine Driver]

Interesting question, I have quite similar situation with this one. She is a 19 yo in Toledo, but I could wait for her in Cebu and she says her father wouldn't agree for her to take bus. So she ask me to come in Toledo, even hotel. And then she could stay with me.

I am not really interested in meeting with father.

What would be your advice?

Could I just hire a car with driver to go to Toledo and then if ok drive back to Cebu with her?

Can I avoid to meet with family. ?

I had stopped contact with her after this exchange, but your post ED, reminds me her, and she is quite pretty. So. I am wondering.

If I had a 19 year old daughter, would I want her to fuck a horny, foreign monger? Hahahaha.

Ask if she will be sleeping in the same bed as you in her house or will you be on the floor next to her father? Hahaha. If you go to her house, they will expect a lot from you, particularly if they are offering their daughters pussy to you. Nothing is ever free. You pay now or you pay later.

Personally, I would move on. There are thousands of girls out there. Tinder is very good when you are in location.

[BrainDrain]

Interesting question, I have quite similar situation with this one. She is a 19 yo in Toledo,
I had stopped contact with her after this exchange, but your post ED, reminds me her, and she is quite pretty. So. I am wondering.

Have you exhausted all of the pussy in Cebu and Mactan?

IMO opinion you are wasting your time unless you have other options in Toledo or you want to see the place.

Any girl offering for you to stay with her family is not expecting a regular bedroom pounding every hour or so.

The goal is for us to maximise our time in bed not the girls convenience and family issues. Family and fun are mutually exclusive.

Any serious girl would easily coerce a friend or cousin into a joint trip to Cebu under the pretence of the cousin needing a travel buddy for a job interview. Father's are easily handled by the girl, not us.

[Albert9989]

This nice looking chick on Tinder is happy to meet, but wants to bring her Tita along. That means it will be a two date process before she will drop her panties. Unless of course her Tita wants to join for a three some. I know what WR would do. What would you do? Hahahaha.

Interesting question, I have quite similar situation with this one. She is a 19 yo in Toledo, but I could wait for her in Cebu and she says her father wouldn't agree for her to take bus. So she ask me to come in Toledo, even hotel. And then she could stay with me.

I am not really interested in meeting with father.

What would be your advice?

Could I just hire a car with driver to go to Toledo and then if ok drive back to Cebu with her?

Can I avoid to meet with family. ?

I had stopped contact with her after this exchange, but your post ED, reminds me her, and she is quite pretty. So. I am wondering.

[Goferring]

I have no problem in getting their WhatsApp or Viber, but it's a two or three step process with these Pinays. First I ask if they have WhatsApp. Instead of then giving me the number straight away (like a logical person would), they simply reply yes or no. I then have to ask if I can have the number.

Yes!! It's even worse for negative answers:

Are you in Cebu (as per your profile)? Nope. Where are you? At home. Where do you live? With my parents, my brother and his wife. What province do you live in? Cebu. Faaaark! Ok, what city? Etc etc.

[Engine Driver]

Tell her no. She can send the aunt alone to check you out if she wants. Then next time she can come alone.

Thanks for the advice DG and E. She has now agreed to come on her own as long as it's at the mall. We are having coffee tomorrow at Greenbelt 3. Let's see if I can then show her the view from my hotel room. Hahaha.