Nairobi

[Triple Darknes]

Thank you Neddy for the tips!

I'd got my Nairobi pricing ideas on the low side having seen one or two posts in the 2 k to 3 k range, and saw somewhere that Nairobi was only 30% premium to Mombasa prices. Now understand 3 k is on the lower end of the range.

I'm glad to be corrected (by Nakedgunz too). I don't want to be a cheap Charlie with girls, just pay fair price or a little over.

BTW, about the type of girl I go for. For me, it's about a girl's ass WAY more than whether she has a model-type face. That's my thing. Pretty-girl-next-door looks is fine as long as she has one of the bigger, shapier asses available out there.

I'll be happy to give back to forum with a long report in a few weeks.

SayJambo.

You sound like me when I made my first trip.

Let me offer a slightly different perspective.

How long is your first trip? If you're staying less than a month I'd spend two weeks or more in Nai or Mba If it's less than that pick one town If It's more than two months you might want to take an excursion to Uganda.

For a first timer and if there's any chance of you wanting to do non mongering activities I'd suggest Nairobi for a first trip. Mombasa is fun but it's somewhat too monger centric for non hardcore mongers.

A hotel is better for a total noob and frankly you'd probably want to spend some coin here. You could go the local hotel route but paying less than 45 bucks a night may get you less quality and while girl friendly you'll be on your own meaning their not going to check the girl and you'll have more of a problem if something goes wrong.

That being said I never stayed at anything but local hotels and airbnb's in Africa and I never had a problem. Actually the Airbnb route is better and cheaper than a local hotel and a lot of savvy African travelers stay at Airbnb's exclusively. A good one can give you local advice. Unless you rent the whole place or have a male host it could be tricky to bring in more than one girl during your stay. I'll just throw this out there I have a couple of Airbnb's in Nairobi myself whole place or private room.

For a first trip I'd actually suggest going to Sabina Joy Applebeez or even the clubs in Westlands in that order. Although Neddy has excellent posts he's an expirenced hardcore monger. The one thing I don't like about Africa is that it's not as "point and click" as it is in other countries. Africa is dirt cheap for pussy you could get straight short time for 5 dollars (without BJ) even in Nairobi, But if you try to start out with "nonpro" it's going to be more expensive in the long run than dealing with a hardcore. Trust me you're not the first mzungu she's met start with the hardcores even if you "overpay" it's cheaper in the long run.

If you're not going to take my advice about the nonpro thing, If you're going to fuck with "regular girls" understand that big asses is the coin of the realm in Africa. There's a reason why the hugest asses don't work in shops that cater to the general public, A large shapely ass is a sign of beauty unless you go a little off the beaten track the bigger the ass the more ran through she'll be whether she's hardcore or not and usually the lazier fuck she'll be I know an IG model here who charges a fortune yet is probably one of the worst fucks. She has a big ass but doesn't know how to use it.

Unless a woman is stunning and or looks "western" a smaller ass will be more appreciative.

I don't know what race you are but throwing this out there for any Black man coming to Africa, You'll need more game than a white man, check for chicks that like you and not so mzungu focused again Nairobi is better than this than Mombasa is for this, You'll get way better service.

Trip.

[Triple Darknes]

Visited the brand new Ignite gym at Westgate shopping mall. My guide was a quite young and attractive girl. At the end of the visit she asked for my Whatsapp and it didn't take long before she was messaging me. Wonderful I thought, instead of bombarding me with promotional material for the gym, this SPG uses my contact for hook-ups.

Not so easy though. She played hard to get, suggesting she was not that kind of girl la-di-da. Two days later I met her for a spot of dinner at the mall. After the meal she said she needed some Yves Rocher cosmetics. It cost me 3800 ksh. She saw me off without indicating what the shopping had in it for me. Back at the hotel I thought it better to block her.

Otherwise the shopping malls are pretty empty at least in the daytime. I haven't seen many eligible girls apart from shop staff. I haven't come round to check if evening time is any better.

Daygame at upscale malls are hard, even if she says yes it's going to cost more. Understand that damn near every rich foreigner has already approached her. If I were going to try Daygame at a mall it would be at a kiosk or a store with one or two sales girls and not any male staff on the scene.

If she lets you take her to the mall she works at especially to an upscale restaurant she's playing you, again she can't be seen pulling dates on the job and anywhere in the same mall or even a nearby mall is basically her workspace.

If she's serious she'll meet at an offsite African restaurant or a coffee shop.

Trip.

[PimpGreen]

Visited the brand new Ignite gym at Westgate shopping mall. My guide was a quite young and attractive girl. At the end of the visit she asked for my Whatsapp and it didn't take long before she was messaging me. Wonderful I thought, instead of bombarding me with promotional material for the gym, this SPG uses my contact for hook-ups.

Not so easy though. She played hard to get, suggesting she was not that kind of girl la-di-da. Two days later I met her for a spot of dinner at the mall. After the meal she said she needed some Yves Rocher cosmetics. It cost me 3800 ksh. She saw me off without indicating what the shopping had in it for me. Back at the hotel I thought it better to block her.

Otherwise the shopping malls are pretty empty at least in the daytime. I haven't seen many eligible girls apart from shop staff. I haven't come round to check if evening time is any better.

She played your for a fool, next time just take a chick to a coffee shop see where her head is at, no fancy food unless it's street food.

[Mombie75]

I usually stay in an airbnb in the town centre or the cbd as they call it. There are always plenty women strolling around working or going between job, shopping etc. Also you have all the shops with staff in them be it the mobile phone shops, clothes shops. Just hit on whoever takes your fancy. This has always worked for me on top of badoo and tinder as I am not into the nightlife much. I think as you go put to westgate or yaya then you have less people going about their business.

[XXL]

Visited the brand new Ignite gym at Westgate shopping mall. My guide was a quite young and attractive girl. At the end of the visit she asked for my Whatsapp and it didn't take long before she was messaging me. Wonderful I thought, instead of bombarding me with promotional material for the gym, this SPG uses my contact for hook-ups.

Not so easy though. She played hard to get, suggesting she was not that kind of girl la-di-da. Two days later I met her for a spot of dinner at the mall. After the meal she said she needed some Yves Rocher cosmetics. It cost me 3800 ksh. She saw me off without indicating what the shopping had in it for me. Back at the hotel I thought it better to block her.

Otherwise the shopping malls are pretty empty at least in the daytime. I haven't seen many eligible girls apart from shop staff. I haven't come round to check if evening time is any better.

[AttilaTheHun]

First checked Black Diamond at aroud midnight. No cover charge. Quite a few girls and few men. Quality of girls I'd say a notch below Kampala's Bubbles 'O Leary on a Thursday. There were a few 8's but no 9's. What I didn't like about the place was that it was too dark. The dancing floor was especially dark. Two girls were dancing. In the darkness their faces were black patches.

Stayed a while then decided to check K1. This is not really a disco. It is more like a restaurant with music. It was full. Customers were mostly male and I don't remember seeing any muzungus.

Returned to Black Diamond and took out a girl who quoted 8 k but readily accepted 5 k.

Something is wrong with paying so much money in a country where the GDP per capita in Kenya is around $2400. Paying 5 K ($48) is close to what you pay in Eastern European countries.

[Neddy69]

The girl I have been dating for the longest time in Nairobi was half digo and half Baluhya.

What you think about this mix?

Digo from coast. From south coast of Mombasa. I avoid. Too greedy. Baluhya sexy. They are related to Luos. It depends where she was brought up. I had a Turkana-Taita mix from Malindi. Spoiled by overpaying Italians.

Neddy.

Who's house hunting in Entebbe.

[UngernKhan]

I looove LUOs. My number ONE tribe. Trouble free. Hot in Bed. After Kambas. Kissiis. Baluhya. Eventually Massai, Turkana, Samburu. Stay away from Kikuyus. Taitas. Digos.

Neddy.

My first question is always. Which tribe? And another tip. Learn Kiswahili. Like. Sema, pesa ngapi jiggi jiggi? Then the price drops off a cliff... As you're in KK territory... Kenya Kimbo... LOL

The girl I have been dating for the longest time in Nairobi was half digo and half Baluhya.

What you think about this mix?

[XXL]

First checked Black Diamond at aroud midnight. No cover charge. Quite a few girls and few men. Quality of girls I'd say a notch below Kampala's Bubbles 'O Leary on a Thursday. There were a few 8's but no 9's. What I didn't like about the place was that it was too dark. The dancing floor was especially dark. Two girls were dancing. In the darkness their faces were black patches.

Stayed a while then decided to check K1. This is not really a disco. It is more like a restaurant with music. It was full. Customers were mostly male and I don't remember seeing any muzungus.

Returned to Black Diamond and took out a girl who quoted 8 k but readily accepted 5 k.

[SayJambo10]

Day game in Nbi is tougher than Msa. A lot of Nbi people are working and don't have time like they do in Msa.

Thank you Mombie for your tips. Regarding daygame, it makes sense that it will be harder in Nairobi. I'm just going to enjoy it, chat to girls, say Jambo, enjoy the vibe! Some will be up for it. Will report back.

[SayJambo10]

Prices in Nairobi are more in the 3000 to 5000 ksh range. 1000ST in Mombasa.

Thank you Neddy for the tips!

I'd got my Nairobi pricing ideas on the low side having seen one or two posts in the 2 k to 3 k range, and saw somewhere that Nairobi was only 30% premium to Mombasa prices. Now understand 3 k is on the lower end of the range.

I'm glad to be corrected (by Nakedgunz too). I don't want to be a cheap Charlie with girls, just pay fair price or a little over.

BTW, about the type of girl I go for. For me, it's about a girl's ass WAY more than whether she has a model-type face. That's my thing. Pretty-girl-next-door looks is fine as long as she has one of the bigger, shapier asses available out there.

I'll be happy to give back to forum with a long report in a few weeks.

SayJambo.

[SayJambo10]

Your welcome! First trip, first post, ah the bird is getting pushed out of the nest, sigh. Well if you read my posts (and this knowledge had sunk in) you would know that your going to get major push back in Nairobi with a 1 K offering. Depending on your taste in women that is. Even Neddy said he stays away from Nai due to the pussy pay. After all, I'm assuming your mzungu, and all of them are rich, everybody knows that. If the tits and ass are big enough you will give in, just know this. Nuff said about money. Don't go to Eastlands, even with an invitation. Westlands will look dirty and ghetto compared to a Western country, but you will be amazed how Westlands is actually fairly clean compared to Eastlands. The drink thing is overblown IMO, because its never happened to me. I do a good enough job of getting drunk and passing out. Never been robbed in Kenya. Get permission before any video or pics is all. Daytime is really not much of an issue walking anywhere, also my opinion. Keyans believe in street and mob justice, so if anybody fucks with you, more than likely you will get a mass of bodies to help. I was just told of a robber that got the shit beat out of him, and stripped naked, boy they love to tear some clothes off!

I had all these concerns my first time, and after maybe 15-20 trips I realize they were nothing, but I also stay in my lane. I generally don't go to these countries trying to be a cheap charlie. I get good clean rooms, not a jail cell / hotel room. I give hot women a bit more money and they treat me good. I go to clubs, drink, talk shit, dance, fuck, make breakfast for me and the chic, she goes home happy. Repeat the next day. The point is I'm being myself, and having fun. Just do that and you will be fine wherever you go. I only got into trouble when I started having feelings. Don't do that!

Thank you very much NakedGunz. Appreciate all your advice! And cooking breakfast for two is a nice touch, may just do that. Thanks for drawing my awareness to my price ideas being on the low side. I might have come across as cheap but definitely not my way.

Will give back in a fortnight with a long report.

[Helgi]

My first Africa trip is imminent. I chose Nairobi and ...

If possible change your travel schedule and go to Mombasa (Mtwapa or Bamburi Beach). Especially for an Africa newbie it is much more easy to monger in Mombasa than in Nairobi.

Nairobi is a moloch and has almost no mongering scene and infrastructure specialized on Muzungus. Based on the impression I got on your post I really doubt that you will get happy in Nairobi at all.

[XXL]

Spent one night at Savora Stenly in the BCD. Rate is 145 $ for single occupancy and 185 for double occupancy. If you book single and you get a visitor there's a 50 $ joiner fee. Not exactly girl-friendly. This was walk-in. If you book and get the lower rate for double occupancy online it may still be ok.

Moved today to Maison Royale. They wanted 80 $ for single and 90 for double occupancy. They accepted 80 for double occupancy without much of a fight. Again, I'm sure better rates for double are to be had online but I needed to burn cash. Maison Royale have in-room safes which is not always the case with 3-star hotels in Africa.

[Mombie75]

Rather echoing below but.

1. Guards are usually okay. Buy them a soda, snacks etc now and again slip them small change, 99% you will be good.

2 can be risky, I take pics but cut the girls face or head out, hide the pics.

3 Day game in Nbi is tougher than Msa. A lot of Nbi people are working and don't have time like they do in Msa. Still Kenyans are very approachable so its not like it is risky in any way.

4 and 5 daytime your good anywhere but why go to the slums anyways. The only place I avoid is Eastleigh. After 8 pm use taxi door to door unless your bar hopping say in westlands or town. Street kids will approach you but they are usually okay, just give them your 5/10/20 bob coin.

6 in my 17 years of going to and living in Kenya I've never known anyone getting spiked but it does happen obviously.