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  1. #34530

    I Don't Think So

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes the balls is just to say so on ISG. Let a gullible reader do the same and see where that leads him. Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.
    I believe Mr. E did tell immigration what he was doing, albeit using softer words than saying he was banging hookers.

    Regardless, how could speaking Spanish with an immigration officer go badly for you. If you didn't understand something she said I'm assuming you reverted back to English. And why would you speak with a US immigration officer in Spanish to begin with, unless perhaps your a Latino or native speaker.

    Sounds like you insulted her somehow, maybe you said something in Spanish not knowing what you said really means, and don't get me wrong, that happens to me a lot. As an example, to say "I don't care" you would say "no importa", however to say "I don't give a fuck" you would say "no me importa".

    So I guess you learned your lesson and haven't been practicing your Spanish with US Latina immigration officers anymore, however in speaking with women Colombian immigration officers, they will light up and give you a nice smile for doing so, but perhaps they will be laughing at your Spanish.

  2. #34529

    Ice

    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes the balls is just to say so on ISG. Let a gullible reader do the same and see where that leads him. Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.
    Just out of curiosity, are you a US citizen?

    P.S: With all government officials I only talk on need to know basis. I never talk more than its required.

  3. #34528
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    You got balls to tell immigration that you were banging hookers in a foreign Country...........
    Sometimes the balls is just to say so on ISG. Let a gullible reader do the same and see where that leads him. Once I was re-entering the US and stupidly tried to speak Spanish with the Latina immigration officer. It went ok initially then she said something and I had no idea what she said and it did not end well for me. I will not go into details, the less I recall of that encounter the better.

  4. #34527
    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    It is only illegal if the person is under the age of 18!
    Thanks for the info, Mojo! I wasn't sure. I did see LE prosecute some companies promoting sex tourism. It must have been sex and minors.

    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    The legal definition of trafficking though simply requires a third person who is making money off the transaction who is not directly involved in the sex, or when the girl is not of legal age of consent. So when you see on the news that people are charged with trafficking that is just old fashion pimping.
    I know what you mean, and I didn't mean to say there is no human trafficking, but if you look at what LE is doing, they set up stings and net 1 guy trafficking and charge like a 1,000 guys with prostiution, and LE is going after men.

    American LE has said that they think the way to stop trafficking is to stop men from paying for sex. Look it up. That is how they got Kraft. If you are paying for sex in the sex prison, LE's attitude is that you are supporting trafficking even if the woman has no pimp and is not trafficked.

  5. #34526

    Wtf?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    . I think it is against the law for Americans to go abroad for purposes of solely having a sex vacation and being with someone under 18 is illegal as well, but it would be tough to prove.
    .
    It is only illegal if the person is under the age of 18! Need we be reminded that prostitution is also legal in parts of Nevada. Mr E is correct that trafficking does exist and that many women are doing it against their will, its one of the reasons I never mongered when visiting western europe, because places like Italy and France are awash with women who were trafficked from eastern europe. The legal definition of trafficking though simply requires a third person who is making money off the transaction who is not directly involved in the sex, or when the girl is not of legal age of consent. So when you see on the news that people are charged with trafficking that is just old fashion pimping.

  6. #34525
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    You had problems with a USA credit card using uber?
    What? Of course not. Uber is an American company and didi is Chinese, I had a ton of issues using my US credit card, debit card and checking account with WeChat. Until this day, I still don't have my bank connected to wechat, the only option to connect to wechat pay is to get a Chinese bank account, and it turned out if you are an US citizen it is hard to open a Chinese bank account.

  7. #34524
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    You got balls to tell immigration that you were banging hookers in a foreign Country.
    Not really, but he is drawing attention to himself.

    Your title implication is incorrect. For the US citizen / resident, it is only illegal to travel to pay for sex only when that person is a minor.

    https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.co...gainst-law.htm

    I've had male immigration officials ask me which countries I've been to. I tell them, but I never mention girls. Sometimes they ask, how are the girls, and then give me an envious smile, and then tell me to have a nice day.

  8. #34523
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    You had problems with a USA credit card using uber?
    No more Uber in Columbia, try DiDi when you get there. Can't active it in the states, since no service here.

  9. #34522
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    I have been using it for more than a week, it surpasses Uber in every way.
    This true since years ago, and not just this. Have you been to China?

  10. #34521

    Is It Against The Law To Go To Another Country To Have Sex

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    No it is not. I have come back into the USA and told immigration that is exactly what I was doing and they told me to have a good day.
    You got balls to tell immigration that you were banging hookers in a foreign Country. One day you may run into a "holy roller" who will send you to secondary and give you a bunch of shit and will later let you go.

    But I suppose in your case, if you were speaking to the immigration officers like you do in some of your posts, they were probably so "shell shocked" by all the nasty details of your escapades they didn't know what to think, except to give you a funny look and let you go.

  11. #34520
    You had problems with a USA credit card using uber?

    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    I have been using Uber for almost two months in Medellin. Now I use Didi. I must to say, I'm impressed with this Chinese app. It is better than Uber in Medellin. My USA Credit card works great with didi, I get rides faster compared to Uber (probably because didi now gets all uber's traffic), and it is slightly cheaper. The best part is that they automatically translate Spanish chat to English. I have been using it for more than a week, it surpasses Uber in every way.

  12. #34519
    I agree completely but I can't help but wonder what legitimate purpose there is in 2020 to be carrying US $10,000+ in cash. We have to admit it looks suspicious.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnGault  [View Original Post]
    I have known about this government scam for quite a while. No seems to care about this abuse. To get your money back you have to go to court. It takes about six months to get a hearing. Unless you can afford the legal costs you are out of luck. If you win you are still out the legal costs. A lot of local governments use the money they take from innocent people to pad their local budgets.

  13. #34518
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Njoean, I think you are to something. When I checked into a hotel in Bogota on my first trip to Bogota, I saw the sign up warning the hotel does not support human trafficking. I was like what the fuck? Here in Colombia too?

    The problem with prostitution is that is a victim-less crime, and it is hard to get a prosecution, so the feds invented human trafficking

    The reason I am bringing this up is that the ugly hand of American LE may be extending to Medellin. Unlike in Bogota and Barranquilla, I was charged a guest fee in Medellin.
    You are way off. Prostitution may be a victimless crime, but human trafficking does exist and is not something made up by America. Hell, HT is much older than America, so how could it be made up by America. Shit. Europeans built the Americas by human trafficking! So it is definitely not something made up by American law enforcement.

    I have met plenty of women around the world that were trafficked. Maybe you are thinking they have been initially kidnapped, but it does not work that way. In many cases women will be told they will be working some other job overseas, but when they get there their passport is taken and they are forced into prostitution. (Keeping in mind that people are not only trafficked for prostitution.) It is so bad that the Filipino government makes it very hard for a single woman to leave the country alone.

    In other cases a sponsor foots the bill for chicks to come to a certain country. When they arrive, their passports are taken and they have to hook until the sponsor gets whatever is owed back.

    I see those signs in many hotels around the world. I saw one the other day in the Ibis Hotel in Rio de Janeiro. Ibis is owned by Accor, which is a French company. So one of those signs inside of a French hotel in Brazil has shit to do with American law enforcement. Those same signs are all over Asia as well.

    I am not sure what a guest fee has to do with anything, but in Bogota a lot of hotels will allow you one guest and start charging you after that. Some places will only charge you if someone stays overnight. This is nothing new and has been happening at least since I started going to Colombia in 2005.

    Bogota is the first place I even ever heard of guest fees. And it has nothing to do with women or hookers. Many moons ago me and 2 friends had to stay in Bogota for the night in order to go to Cali the next day. We opted for a room with 3 beds to save money. The next day at checkout we were charged the same as if we would have gotten 3 seperate rooms. This was because they charge by the person (no matter the sex) and not by the room as many of us are used to.

    They also operate like this in Cali. I have never experienced these charges in hotels that are American chains. If you suspect American law enforcement is responsible for any of this, then it would make more sense for these practices to be seen in American hotels. But it is the exact opposite. You just have to be clear of the rules of the hotel you are staying in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    I think it is against the law for Americans to go abroad for purposes of solely having a sex vacation
    No it is not. I have come back into the USA and told immigration that is exactly what I was doing and they told me to have a good day.

  14. #34517

    Terrible practice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Njoean, I think you are to something. When I checked into a hotel in Bogota on my first trip to Bogota, I saw the sign up warning the hotel does not support human trafficking. I was like what the fuck? Here in Colombia too?

    Unlike a lot of guys in the USA sex prison, I knew what law enforcement, LE, was up to. LE thinks that any money illegally obtained belongs to them. There was a poor kid names Joseph Rivers who was trying to make it in LA. He took the train from Detroit to LA with his life savings, $16,000, on him. A DEA agent just took it in Albuquerque: no warrant, no criminal intent, nothing. Just fucking took the whole thing. If you have a lot of cash on you, these days you have to prove it wasn't drug money.
    I have known about this government scam for quite a while. No seems to care about this abuse. To get your money back you have to go to court. It takes about six months to get a hearing. Unless you can afford the legal costs you are out of luck. If you win you are still out the legal costs. A lot of local governments use the money they take from innocent people to pad their local budgets.

  15. #34516
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    The American federal government has a very long arm, and I do think that you are onto something, but I am not sure what to do about it. It seems to me that it may be worth considering staying in hotels that do not have an American presence and maybe buying airline tickets once you are in Colombia versus getting them in advance through an American company like Expedia. I think that is where LE would put the pressure the easiest. It wouldn't surprise me at all for the Feds to get a hold of a list of Americans who paid for guest fees and targeting them.

    Maybe I am a little paranoid but being paranoid has kept me out of trouble. Between what you posted and what happened to me, maybe LE is stepping up policing of Americans going abroad, and all of us need to put our heads together and come up with strategies to stay out of trouble.
    Perhaps your a little to paranoid about all this. As long as your not doing anyone under the age of 18, and are not doing anything illegal, or have anything illegal with you when returning to the USA you shouldn't be so paranoid. LE has much bigger fish to fry than tracking gringos travelling to Colombia, like stopping illegal immigration and drugs.

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