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  1. #34982
    Quote Originally Posted by PunkedLife  [View Original Post]
    So when I told her that she got all pissed off talking about that's a lack of respect and I'm wasting her time. She even initially blocked me and then unblocked me it seems because one of my messages never reached her but the message immediately after did.
    I can't argue with you, that is hypocritical.

  2. #34981

    You son of the* you changed beers with me

    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrod10  [View Original Post]
    This is the third time I have posted this report but its important.

    We are laughing, joking, having a nice time when out of no were she stands up and says you son of the***** you changed beers with me.

    So with that out of the car parked nearby comes a rather large black guy and hes helping her to the back seat of his car. Once in the car, my pretty blond disappears, or should I say passes out. This may be my first experience with this kind of robbery set up. I spent much time in Europe before it became too expensive. I would love to hear from other members on there experiences or their habits to avoid this situation.
    I get that you are saying that you would have gotten robbed if you had drank the beer that was meant for you? But fate had it that she ended up with beer that was spiked with the knock out drug?

  3. #34980
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I agree with Mr. E and Turgid on their thoughts on this matter, and you as well.

    Whenever I set up an appointment with one of my El Centro regulars I always inform them that they cannot be late as I will not tolerate it, but I do at times. If they are not on time, and haven't called me with a legitimate excuse and won't be more than 30 minutes late, I tell them I am not available. So after they have missed a pay day, and have been benched, they now pretty much show up on time.

    For others, some of which that I schedule a day or too out, I am much more flexible as things come up regarding their kids or whomever (boyfriend).

    Guys would have less problems with Chicas being late, especially with regulars who are repeat offenders by, 1) benching them when they are going to be late thereby missing a payday, and 2) communicating your expectations as you have outlined. Whether it be an El Centro Chica, or a FayBoo Chica, missing a payday is huge for them. For a Fayboo Chica who gets say 200 K, that's basically 4 days pay at the minimum wage.

    I understand Colombians are typically late, and lot of guys who set up a meeting for 2 PM are thrilled if they show up by 3 PM, but I believe once a Chica has missed a payday, at least with someone who has communicated very clear what their expectations are, they will be more punctual. This is what I have experienced.
    Certainly. For those of us who have a collection of girls who we regularly see, there's no need to tolerate someone who is chronically late.

    For the guys without a stable, or who only want new girls, it doesn't work. She's not going to learn from the experience and the next guy will probably have the same problem. And the monger will likely keep experiencing the same issue.

    The goal is supposed to be getting laid. Whatever source you use, maximize your return by controlling the situation. When someone walks away from a session without getting laid, they've lost as much as the girl. We spent money to fly there, money to sleep and eat there, money to leave our car in a parking lot. Now we're spending half our time getting angry? I can go to work and do that.

    If you're making an appointment, remember she has a lot more issues to deal with than you. Don't try to set up something last minute. It rarely works with your friends at home, why think it will be any different in another country? Try it sometime. Thursday night, 8:30 pm, call a friend and ask him to meet you at a strip club at 9:15. If he's got a wife, kids, girlfriend, dog, job, etc, he's not going to show.

    Plan ahead. Find out when they can be there. If she can be there at 7, tell her 7 is perfect and plan on 8. Hit her up at 6 and see if any issues have come up. Hit her up again at 7. Meanwhile, enjoy your dinner, have a drink, catch up on email and chat up the girls you want for tomorrow. Chances are she'll be at your door between 7:45 and 8:30. You really didn't lose any time and you can enjoy yourself.

    Meanwhile she's happy. She gets paid and she doesn't have to deal with an angry confrontation. Happy chicas tend to give better service.

  4. #34979

    Hypocrites

    Quote Originally Posted by MojoBandit  [View Original Post]
    And you say you gave her a whole 20 minutes before you. What do you think happen next, think she got on the Medellin wide prepago group message and spread the word that "these gringos and mad as hell and they aren't going to take it anymore" and every chica in the city decided to fall into line and be on time. If you had seriously read this forum you would know that there are many guys on this forum who have logged many trips over many years in that city, and will tell you time and time again that these chicas have a whole different perception of timing than we do. Promptness is not valued by them. Would I get frustrated if a chica is late, yes, but I also know to expect it. I get frustrated when it gets cold in the winter too, but I expect it. It is not because of idiot gringos, it is the nature of things. She does not live by the same standards of timing because it is not in her to, she most likely thinks that you are just unreasonably impatient. I learned quickly that these chicas lives are not structured in the least, they are more like a tumbleweed caught in a hurricane as JjBee62 describes below. By proving you could cause her to spend money she probably didn't have, all you proved was you could cause her to spend money she did not have. Maybe I am an idiot gringo but I don't think I can change the lifestyle and habits of a bello chica anymore than my last girlfriend who thought she could change me. Could change me.
    Yes time management is something they need to work on but no point in stressing over this. What I can't stand is the fact that they feel like they can waste your time but the minute you waste their time it's the end of the world. I guess that comes with the territory when fucking with the spoiled ones. For example the first time I met Angie Munoz she was like an HR late but I didn't sweat it mainly because that's what I had been told to prepare for plus this is common ni matter what city you visit. But I had a second appointment booked with her and she waited until an HR before our appointment to tell me that she isn't coming. And that's after I texted her. I can imagine that if I didn't text her she probably would have just not shown up. Anyways I set up a third appointment with her the following day and I guess she was on time which I wasn't really expecting. I got caught up in centro and was in a taxi when she asked for my room number. So when I told her that she got all pissed off talking about that's a lack of respect and I'm wasting her time. She even initially blocked me and then unblocked me it seems because one of my messages never reached her but the message immediately after did. And I just thought that was very hypocritical. So I won't be repeating with her. She is good but I've found someone on another level entirely. And I'll be keeping this one around for sure. And that's the thing they don't understand is that they are easily replaceable. But then again someone like her won't be hurting because she seems to be very popular. She had an appointment scheduled before my second appointment with her and several after me. I highly doubt she canceled all her appointments due to a hangover like she told me. I'm sure some other guy offered her more than I was willing to pay.

  5. #34978

    A Balanced Approach- Sometimes You Need To Bench Them

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    You don't have to take BS. Manage the situation. Find out her schedule. Allow some flexibility. Maintain communication. State your scheduling requirements. If you want her there at 7, because you've got someone else coming at 10, let her know.
    I agree with Mr. E and Turgid on their thoughts on this matter, and you as well.

    Whenever I set up an appointment with one of my El Centro regulars I always inform them that they cannot be late as I will not tolerate it, but I do at times. If they are not on time, and haven't called me with a legitimate excuse and won't be more than 30 minutes late, I tell them I am not available. So after they have missed a pay day, and have been benched, they now pretty much show up on time.

    For others, some of which that I schedule a day or too out, I am much more flexible as things come up regarding their kids or whomever (boyfriend).

    Guys would have less problems with Chicas being late, especially with regulars who are repeat offenders by, 1) benching them when they are going to be late thereby missing a payday, and 2) communicating your expectations as you have outlined. Whether it be an El Centro Chica, or a FayBoo Chica, missing a payday is huge for them. For a Fayboo Chica who gets say 200 K, that's basically 4 days pay at the minimum wage.

    I understand Colombians are typically late, and lot of guys who set up a meeting for 2 PM are thrilled if they show up by 3 PM, but I believe once a Chica has missed a payday, at least with someone who has communicated very clear what their expectations are, they will be more punctual. This is what I have experienced.

  6. #34977

    Late

    One thing I hate about the tardiness is I never say can you be here in a hour, and then she says yes, and of course she is late because she wanted the date, but knew a hour wasn't enough. The way I do it, when I deal with a girl directly or an agency, is I ask them what time do you want to come tonight, and you hope she gives you a time that gives her enough time to get ready and uber over. After she gives me a time, if she is 10 minutes late I ask her how far away are you, at that point I will leave if it's "I just left sorry". I will cancel right there and tell her come tomorrow night I'm not waiting anymore.

  7. #34976
    Quote Originally Posted by Lou32  [View Original Post]
    Use the Google Clock as the judge not her phone clock.
    What is the Google Clock?

  8. #34975
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    If you do not teach them then they will never learn. You can change someone's way of thinking, but you can't change the weather. You don't think that if not anything else but having to pay that wasted taxi so many times they would learn to be on time? I do. If a chick makes me waste my money I can always get more of that, but if a chick makes me waste my time then I am just ass out on that front. They will learn to be on time when it starts costing them money as in his case.
    If the weather was a bad analogy then think of it this way, if you yell at her enough times in English, do you think she is going to learn English? Maybe, and I mean maybe, if you try this experiment with the same chica enough times, she might be able to be on time for you, but it's not going to change their nature.

  9. #34974

    When in your room you must stay allert.

    This is the third time I have posted this report but its important.

    Some years ago I was in Vancouver looking for pussy. I picked up a beautiful blond and off we go to my motel. In my room I pulled out 2 Hams beers from on top of my AC unit and we enjoy a beer and snacks and conversation before the deed. Out of nowhere she stands up and says I just can't do this. Sorry but I must go. I didn't have much of a chance to say anything and out the door she goes. The last thing she says is I will make my own way back to the city. WOW I ask myself what did I do wrong. OK so here me and Spike sit. Then out of no were there she is knocking on my door. I open the door and she says I really need the money, can we finish our beer first. Whats a guy to do. So in she comes and now she is unbuttoning her top. Oh lord, lets finish these drinks. Were right back were we were just a short time ago. We are laughing, joking, having a nice time when out of no were she stands up and says you son of the***** you changed beers with me. She staggers her way to the door, out she goes but don't forget we are on the second floor. So down the steps she staggers banging her nice, pretty butt on both sides as she descends. She almost made it but 2 steps from the bottom down she goes. So with that out of the car parked nearby comes a rather large black guy and hes helping her to the back seat of his car. Once in the car, my pretty blond disappears, or should I say passes out. This may be my first experience with this kind of robbery set up. I spent much time in Europe before it became too expensive. I would love to hear from other members on there experiences or their habits to avoid this situation.

  10. #34973
    Quote Originally Posted by SJobs  [View Original Post]
    My definition of Heaven: two 18-year-old smoking hot FB girls from 2 pm until 11:30 pm, Gusto from 12:00 am until 4 am (Thursday. Saturday), another threesome with two 18-year-old FB from 4 - 10 am. What's above heaven? A legit message from a super hot Paisa between 11 am and 2 pm.
    So you literally do not sleep when you are here?

  11. #34972

    Day 7 and 8

    Day 7.

    Nothing to report here. Woke up with a bad headache, tried to sleep it off. Wasn't working so went to find a masseuse. Stomach becomes a bit upset, may have a slight fever too, not ideal. Just letting you know that something is going around. I think someone mentioned a few days ago they had a stomach flu here.

    All the spa's had mixed reviews and I really needed something that was going to be therapeutic, not a rub down. Ended up finding Alexander who is a mobile masseuse. Luckily he had someone pull a no show and he was 5 minutes away. 60 minutes for 70 k. It was a mix between chiropractic, massage and acupressure. Even though there were some moments that were very painful, he didn't shy away from it, apologized and said it needed to be done. Very unique technique and it helped tremendously. I did feel A LOT better after.

    Tried to make a cita at night but it was already late and the timing wasn't working out so went to bed early.

    Day 8.

    Woke up and needed a cita bad. Feeling low energy, and again might have had low grade fever over the night, but it passed quickly. Not sure what I have, but its something and it's also mild, so far. Impossible to tell where I may have picked it up at this point.

    First one to respond was Maria. About an 8 in her photos but something about her just got me curious. She gets here in about an hour and a half from when we first spoke which is pretty good. We agree to two hours, two pops, oral natural completo. Same thing I want in every cita. 200 k plus taxi.

    She shows up and is taller than I thought, she looked super petite in her photos but she's more like 5'7' and not nearly as pretty as her photos make her look. Well, it is what it is at this point. She takes a shower and lays down on the bed, she has a fantastic butt and perky small tits. I like her assets, but she just could have been more presentable. She's a bit shy and initiates. Turns out her BBBJ is awesome, thank god. Really putting in effort, going deep constantly, good gentle attention to the balls and it doesn't take long for my to explode in her mouth. No rush to pull off, she continues to lick and kiss gently. Solid BJ, I'm happy. This is one of my favorite things.

    We lay on the bed and chat for 30 minutes until I'm ready to go again. She's laying on the bed flat with her legs closed and I come in from behind. She can move that ass! Wow, she's not a looker but she knows how to provide service, damn. She rides me for awhile, then we switch to reverse cowgirl and from this position, all I can see is her long hair and her fat fantastic butt riding me hard. Well, at least from the back, I love this view. Super intense orgasm again and she just keeps riding until I have to tell her to chill out.

    Not sure how to rate her because I really wasn't attracted and she's not my type but her service is honestly pretty damn good. No complaints whatsoever on the service. I doubt I'll see her again as there are just too many other gorgeous chicas here, and I'm searching to create a small stable of absolute gems that have the full package, she doesn't make the cut for that.

    Probably only stayed an hour and a half but totally good by me, no need to stay any longer. Its only 1 pm. Now to figure out what to do with the rest of the day.

  12. #34971

    Each minute late shaves off 1000 pesos from the compensation

    Works like a charm but make sure they understand the agreement beforehand.

    Use the Google Clock as the judge not her phone clock.

  13. #34970
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    I totally accept this approach. Too many mongers allow shit from the girls leading them to totally have no respect for mongers. The more mongers do like you the less these girls will give us BS. It appears that mongers believe that they must take BS to empty their balls, I disagree; I think my money is good enough.
    Do you honestly believe that's how you earn respect? For anyone who served in the military, think about the people who you respected the most. Were they the ones who were always yelling about everything? The ones just looking for a chance to chew someone's ass? Or were they the ones who made you feel appreciated?

    At least in the Navy, your method of earning respect guaranteed at some point you were going to be drinking urine, from a cup that several guys had rimmed.

    You don't have to take BS. Manage the situation. Find out her schedule. Allow some flexibility. Maintain communication. State your scheduling requirements. If you want her there at 7, because you've got someone else coming at 10, let her know.

  14. #34969
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    If you do not teach them then they will never learn. You can change someone's way of thinking, but you can't change the weather. You don't think that if not anything else but having to pay that wasted taxi so many times they would learn to be on time? I do. If a chick makes me waste my money I can always get more of that, but if a chick makes me waste my time then I am just ass out on that front. They will learn to be on time when it starts costing them money as in his case.
    But they won't learn. It would be great if they did, but it's simply not going to happen. Each instructor I had at EAFIT, for my Spanish classes, joked repeatedly about the Paisa lack of time sense. One, who was originally from Bogota, showed up late one day and made a comment about becoming a Paisa.

    This has been their way of life since before they could walk. A few hundred gringos aren't going to change the habits of a few thousand chicas.

    I tried it, not only with a few chicas, but with all of the webcam models. All I accomplished was to raise my stress level.

    Instead, I changed my attitude. Certainly, the situation is different for the guys who need to nail 4 chicas every day. They're on a tight schedule. They've got deadlines to meet. I can't bear to think of the catastrophe if they only get in 3 girls one day.

    Me? I'm on vacation. My only deadline is the time on my ticket home. I've got 15-16 hours each day available. Why spend half my time fretting over something I can't change? I work around their schedule, instead of trying to force them to follow mine. I also, if there's any doubt, pick a place where I can relax and enjoy myself while waiting.

  15. #34968

    Legit Massage Places in Poblado

    My definition of Heaven: two 18-year-old smoking hot FB girls from 2 pm until 11:30 pm, Gusto from 12:00 am until 4 am (Thursday. Saturday), another threesome with two 18-year-old FB from 4 - 10 am. What's above heaven? A legit message from a super hot Paisa between 11 am and 2 pm.

    Thank you, Jjbee and GeneHackman, for the excellent recommendation of legit massage place in Poblado. As promised, I'm reporting back on my experience in Centro Comercial areío Sur.

    To be honest, I had my reservations about massage parlors in Medellin. Latinos are not known to give good messages; furthermore, given that I'm from the you. S, I always have this tinted image of a 40-year-old butt ugly Asian lady who offers an OK massage for 65 dollars an hour and demands a 25 dollar tip. To put things in perspective, in the you. S, if those grandmas in the typical massage parlor are willing to give me 200 dollars so they can give me a handjob, I will turn them down immediately. So far, Medellin has surprised me in every way, so I looked forward to trying the legit massage place.

    The areío Sur building is packed with beauty salons and massage palors. The first floor is under renovation right now; you have to walk up to the second floor to take the elevator up to higher levels. A massage place called "El Garage Spa 4 man" is on the third floor, "Om Spa for Man" on the fourth floor, and both Zen and Dharma are on the fifth floor. I have tried all of them, sometimes multiple rounds per day. They are about the same in both concept and style. Based on my experience, Garage has the best decor, and Zen has the prettiest girls. Here is my typical experience:

    I walk in with google translate, explain to them I need a strong massage. The girl at the front desk will take me into one of the rooms, and ask me to take off all my clothes. She will offer to bring me a drink; the drink selections are whiskey, wine, beer, and water. I always pick whiskey. At Garage, they pour the whiskey over a shaved spherical ice, which is a nice touch. The facility is clean and comfortable; they always dim the light in the room and light up a candle or two. As I strip down naked, lying face down on the massage table, my masseuse will show up with my whiskey. It is a bit awkward trying to drink the whiskey while naked on a massage table.

    After I had my drink of whiskey, my masseuse will proceed with a very decent massage. Most of them give a high-quality massage, definitely not as good as the ones you can find in Thailand or Malaysia. Still, it is a very relaxing and enjoyable experience. All of them tried to give me a happy ending, and some practically begged me to do it.

    What made the whole experience divine are the girls! The average look of the girls in Zen must be a Medellin 7; I had a few Medellin 9's wanting to give me a handjob. Despite the number of other options I have in Medellin, I always hopelessly agree. The girls in most of the massage places in the areío Sur building are on the older side, from the mid-20's to mid-40's. However, 60% of them are very hot! They can easily top a super hot girl in a typical strip joint in the USA Even the older masseuse in their 30's and 40's are beautiful. While giving me the handjob, most of them will strip down to their panties, and offer DFK. They let me suck on their tits and squeeze their pussy while worshiping my cock. Hell, most of my massage experience in Rio Sur surpasses the average encounter in the casa Energy.

    A one-hour massage cost about 100-120 k, handjob cost another 50 k. It is a bit pricy by Medellin standard, given that I can get an 18-year-old FB girl for 2-3 hours for 200 k, but the experience is worth it. I also tried the four-hand massage in Om; 180 is the base price, I didn't take the four-hand handjob offer, I don't think it is worth it.

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