Medellin Reports

[SJobs]

Internet speeds in Medellin are bad. Struggled to get 3 Mbps upload speed until switched to fiber. Even then, was only hitting 25 Mbps. It will probably be a few more years before they're up to speed.

The LTE coverage is amazing, I just tether through my phone, I never bothered with the local internet connection.

[Combo]

I rarely negotiate a time. There's one girl I know who will try to get me off and get out as quick as possible. With her I'll specify how long I want her there. When she knows I won't let her do that, she's a solid performer. Otherwise, I only make an issue if the girl says 1 hour. I'll tell her it's not worth it if she's only coming for an hour. An hour to get ready, 45 minutes to get to me and another 45 minutes to get home. Tell her it wouldn't be fair to her to spend so much time and only get to have fun for 1 hour. Then offer another day when she can spend 2 or 3 hours. In my experience, most are happy to stick around.

I also don't negotiate multiple pops. Generally I'm 1 and done. Even if I wasn't, I don't see an advantage to negotiating it into the price. Maybe you won't want the 2nd, or maybe she won't want the 2nd. If you both want it, it's going to happen anyway. If you both don't want it, it won't be as satisfying.

This post is spot on. "If you both want it, it's going to happen away. " It's rarely to your advantage to negotiate multiple hours (or TLN) ahead of time, and that goes doubly if you haven't been with the girl before.

[Aramus817]

Interesting, I'll try that approach. I've been more clear with what I want upfront because they are clear that it is only 1 pop for their asking price. The reality is I know I am going to want two. There has only been one time I didn't want it and I offered her less to leave early and she accepted and it wasnt a big deal. She hit me up this morning to hang out again so no hard feelings I guess.

All the other FB chicas have been two pops and enthusiastic performers for both rounds. ...

OK, I've been trying to search the forums for this, but it ends up with hundreds of non-informative posts. How does one get started finding chicas on FB?

[Junior11]

At JjBee62, reading your message I recalled San Francisco and some small towns in West Virginia. You're right. There is plenty of poverty and problems with sanitation in the USA too.

At AdventureSeekr, as of right now, either day is fine with me if it is a morning tour 🙂.

Internet speeds in Medellin are bad. Struggled to get 3 Mbps upload speed until switched to fiber. Even then, was only hitting 25 Mbps. It will probably be a few more years before they're up to speed.

I'll take your tour in Laureles, or take you on one to some sections of El Centro. But then let me give you a tour of a US city, or worse, a US small town. Let me show you the houses surrounded by so much junk and garbage you can't see the house. Let me show you yards full of broken down cars, old TVs and rotting furniture. Let me show you the garbage strewn along the streets and highways, the vacant buildings and abandoned houses. Then we'll sit down in Flint for a glass of tap water.

Check out the parks in Medellin, or Bogota. First thing in the morning you'll see people out cleaning park benches, picking up trash, raking leaves. Or just walk down the street. Chances are you'll see a city employee tending landscaping, gathering trash or doing something to keep the city looking good.

Check out the streets themselves. Other than in much of El Centro, you'll find tree-lined avenues, with flowers and native plants. Avenida Poblado is gorgeous.

Check out the public transportation while you're at it. I looked into using public transportation in Indianapolis several years ago. To get from home to work required 6 different buses and nearly 4 hours, plus a 20 minute walk. In Medellin I'm rarely more than 30 minutes away from anywhere and the cost is under $1.

Medellin certainly has its share of problems, but in many ways it could teach the US a thing or two.

Totally in agreement with your previous post. I'll take ya up on the Laureles tour Junior if you two want to get together. I do want to see more of that area and get a feel for it. This is my last week here BTW. I'd be down to walk around El Centro again too as I want to grab another couple pairs of shoes one day this week. How is Wednesday or Thursday for you two?

[Junior11]

I had no idea local economy depended so much on oil. It probably depends significantly on tourism too.

On a side note all the world uncertainty is doing good things to the exchange rate. Briefly hit 3599 on Friday. Anyone think it could reach 4 k?

[AdventureSeekr]

I rarely negotiate a time. There's one girl I know who will try to get me off and get out as quick as possible. With her I'll specify how long I want her there. When she knows I won't let her do that, she's a solid performer. Otherwise, I only make an issue if the girl says 1 hour. I'll tell her it's not worth it if she's only coming for an hour. An hour to get ready, 45 minutes to get to me and another 45 minutes to get home. Tell her it wouldn't be fair to her to spend so much time and only get to have fun for 1 hour. Then offer another day when she can spend 2 or 3 hours. In my experience, most are happy to stick around.

I also don't negotiate multiple pops. Generally I'm 1 and done. Even if I wasn't, I don't see an advantage to negotiating it into the price. Maybe you won't want the 2nd, or maybe she won't want the 2nd. If you both want it, it's going to happen anyway. If you both don't want it, it won't be as satisfying.

Interesting, I'll try that approach. I've been more clear with what I want upfront because they are clear that it is only 1 pop for their asking price. The reality is I know I am going to want two. There has only been one time I didn't want it and I offered her less to leave early and she accepted and it wasnt a big deal. She hit me up this morning to hang out again so no hard feelings I guess.

All the other FB chicas have been two pops and enthusiastic performers for both rounds. Actually, the second round has been even better than the first, we've had another drink, we've had some food which has been appreciated universally, or I cooked for them which really took things up a notch. Noticeable increase in performance. Last night was the first time a chica tried to duck out early without honoring the second round, and between her personality and tussi usage (forgot to mention that in my report), I was good with it ending early, so I ate 50-75 k, not a life changer.

Some are going to be like striking gold, most won't be. As this is my first trip here, I'm willing to invest a little more to get more time with these chicas to find the ones I want to see again. As I mentioned, they are hitting me up and offering to come for less now, so I think the initial investment was worth it. I'm not positive on that yet though but it looks that way.

While its a poor comparison, even at 2 hours for 300 k, let alone the 4-5 hour chicas for 300 k, its insane value. I'd be paying $150-200/ HR where I live or $300/ HR mainland. This whole trip being frivolous is costing me less than half of what I expected!

[AdventureSeekr]

I'll take your tour in Laureles, or take you on one to some sections of El Centro.

Totally in agreement with your previous post. I'll take ya up on the Laureles tour Junior if you two want to get together. I do want to see more of that area and get a feel for it. This is my last week here BTW. I'd be down to walk around El Centro again too as I want to grab another couple pairs of shoes one day this week. How is Wednesday or Thursday for you two?

[JjBee62]

Heading to Medellin for the first time later this week. I've done a similar trip to Pattaya but I hear Colombia is very different. I have been trying to meet girls on tinder and Colombian Cupid (Which CC feels like a total waste of my money) but after a few texts they seem to vanish. Any experiences you guys can share with tinder or online dating sites?

I have read to avoid el centro after dark or for that matter not to really walk anywhere after dark.

Any decent spots to find people that speak English, like expat bars? I speak a little bit of Spanish but nothing more than a few years at university and would appreciate the reprieve of somewhere that speaks English.

I have read some pricing guides for girls so I think I have a general idea. For those that have been to Thailand is there a bar girl equivalent in Medellin? Like a bar I can just chill at and maybe take a girl home without the pressure of a brothel?.

CC you'll find a lot of girls looking for relationships. Probably a waste of time at this point. My advice is to be direct. If they're not interested in coming over for sex, move on.

In most of Poblado you'll probably be okay walking after dark. Same with Laureles. Stay with the crowds. Avoid the deserted streets. If there aren't any people there, there's nothing for you to see.

You can find gringos throughout Parque Lleras. Patrick's Irish Pub and Juan Valdez are common Hangouts.

There is no real bar girl equivalent. Here are some options:

Gusto and other Parque Lleras clubs. You'll find working girls in most of them. They tend to be expensive.

Strip clubs. They run from cheap to expensive. Mostly it's on-site service.

The bar at the Mansion. It's a 50 k cover charge to get in. All the girls are working. Prices will be around 200 k. You'll have to take them off-site.

The El Centro bars. There's an area with dozens of bars, stocked with girls. Most of the girls are just there to get you to buy them overpriced drinks. However, some are available and others will consider coming to see you.

[JjBee62]

Can you negotiate price based on the number of pops only? I read your reports that sometimes 3 hours is too much, and in this case, 2 hours is not enough. Defining length of time does not seem to be in your favor.

I rarely negotiate a time. There's one girl I know who will try to get me off and get out as quick as possible. With her I'll specify how long I want her there. When she knows I won't let her do that, she's a solid performer. Otherwise, I only make an issue if the girl says 1 hour. I'll tell her it's not worth it if she's only coming for an hour. An hour to get ready, 45 minutes to get to me and another 45 minutes to get home. Tell her it wouldn't be fair to her to spend so much time and only get to have fun for 1 hour. Then offer another day when she can spend 2 or 3 hours. In my experience, most are happy to stick around.

I also don't negotiate multiple pops. Generally I'm 1 and done. Even if I wasn't, I don't see an advantage to negotiating it into the price. Maybe you won't want the 2nd, or maybe she won't want the 2nd. If you both want it, it's going to happen anyway. If you both don't want it, it won't be as satisfying.

[Junior11]

Good to know that regarding Poblado. I don't spend much time in Poblado and didn't live there. 90% of my experience in Medellin is based on Laureles.

I've only been in Laureles for brief periods but didn't see that. I've walked all around Poblado from Monterey Mall beyond Provenza, from Blux, down to Parque La Presidenta. I haven't seen anything like you mention. I still think the quality of life and value one receives here is VERY high for the dollars spent. I'm actually shocked how little I am spending and I know it could be done for even less if I tried.

The wifi at my Airbnb has been solid for over two weeks now, no issues. I can do everything I need, stream Netflix etc, never had a problem. I think it depends on the building and what the landlord pays for.

[SJobs]

There is a MAC store that does full repairs in El Tesoro Parque Comercial--a huge fancy pants mall up the hill from Poblado. I have had them work on my Mac--sometimes it takes time to get the parts--but they are full service like in the US. Or at least used to be as of 2017 when I last used them.

Thanks for the info, do they accept AppleCare+? I know a few places in Poblado that do repair, but they don't accept AppleCare, I ended up paying 300 dollars to repair my screen for a phone that is under AppleCare.

[JjBee62]

I don't share your opinion on some items, even if we take only Poblado and Laureles. We can meet in Laureles and I will give you a little tour. You will see trash, people living (sleeping, cooking and doing all the necessities) in unsanitary conditions etc. I guess you haven't been walking around here much or was with a stunning chica and couldn't take your eyes off her.

Regarding the internet, yes, as far as I know, the LTE coverage is pretty good in Laureles and Poblado. What about home internet? So far, I had mostly okay to bad experience. It is pretty bad in the evenings, when locals are back from work. And I mean really bad, sometimes bellow 1 mbps. My cell phone gives me much better speed. Even during the day, speeds often are below 20 mbps. This is pretty horrible by today's standards.

Internet speeds in Medellin are bad. Struggled to get 3 Mbps upload speed until switched to fiber. Even then, was only hitting 25 Mbps. It will probably be a few more years before they're up to speed.

I'll take your tour in Laureles, or take you on one to some sections of El Centro. But then let me give you a tour of a US city, or worse, a US small town. Let me show you the houses surrounded by so much junk and garbage you can't see the house. Let me show you yards full of broken down cars, old TVs and rotting furniture. Let me show you the garbage strewn along the streets and highways, the vacant buildings and abandoned houses. Then we'll sit down in Flint for a glass of tap water.

Check out the parks in Medellin, or Bogota. First thing in the morning you'll see people out cleaning park benches, picking up trash, raking leaves. Or just walk down the street. Chances are you'll see a city employee tending landscaping, gathering trash or doing something to keep the city looking good.

Check out the streets themselves. Other than in much of El Centro, you'll find tree-lined avenues, with flowers and native plants. Avenida Poblado is gorgeous.

Check out the public transportation while you're at it. I looked into using public transportation in Indianapolis several years ago. To get from home to work required 6 different buses and nearly 4 hours, plus a 20 minute walk. In Medellin I'm rarely more than 30 minutes away from anywhere and the cost is under $1.

Medellin certainly has its share of problems, but in many ways it could teach the US a thing or two.

[Nounce]

For those that have been to Thailand is there a bar girl equivalent in Medellin? Like a bar I can just chill at and maybe take a girl home without the pressure of a brothel?.

The closest thing to finding bar girl will be strip clubs. Usually it is sex on site. You can find location, price in this thread.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...n-Map-and-List

For bars, You should be able to find more information by searching this thread using the words "gusto" or "lleras".

[AdventureSeekr]

Can you negotiate price based on the number of pops only? I read your reports that sometimes 3 hours is too much, and in this case, 2 hours is not enough. Defining length of time does not seem to be in your favor.

Not entirely. I rather negotiate more time and have them leave early rather than want them to stay longer and they are trying to be out as soon as possible when those 2 pops are up. Last night was the only chica that stuck to the time other than photoprepagos girls which just suck in every aspect.

Every other chica has completely forgotten about the time. If you see the other reports, one wanted 3 hours max, stayed 5. One wanted 1 hour max, stayed 3, etc. They seem to want to agree to that so that they can go if they want to. Another I am seeing this week said if she is enjoying herself, she will stay longer but that her deal is 1 pop, 1 hour, 250 k. If I wanted 2 pops, it was 500 k. I negotiated that to 3 hours, 2 pops, 300 k plus taxi, but it took a couple of days of chatting and taking other dates before hers, and finally she came down closer to where I wanted to be.

The problem with ONLY agreeing to 2 pops is that they try to rush to get those 2 pops in as fast as possible. I have all night, I'm not doing anything else, so for me. I rather have sex, order food or cook, chat, share drinks, get to know them a little, practice spanish and then go for round 2 rather than back to back.

Initially, they want to spend less time (via text) but once they are here, they are down to hang out and spend more time. My speaking decent Spanish definitely helps. This is an assumption but because we have spent more time together and now are more comfortable with each other, rather than a fast 1 hour encounter, literally every FB chica I've seen texts me every other day asking how I am, when can we hang out again, if I am still in Medellin. I have said I am really busy and even the ones who were a bit more expensive have come down in price to meet again.

The short answer is I believe it is in my favor to add a time agreement far more than the one or two times it has not. As I said, its also a filter, because the girls who say 1 hour only, I don't meet with. I know that I will not enjoy my time with a clockwatcher.

[Nounce]

We did confirm 2 pops and I asked for 3 hours but she said only 2. I ask how long they will stay because some will say 1 hour and I don't meet with them typically because I don't like rushing like that.

Can you negotiate price based on the number of pops only? I read your reports that sometimes 3 hours is too much, and in this case, 2 hours is not enough. Defining length of time does not seem to be in your favor.