Prague

[The Cane]

Good luck to you TC. I really find it hard to believe that you will want to fuck LESS in Switzerland. Why not just go back to Brazil?

FiddyCent.

You didn't get what I wrote. I said that if there was no Germany or Brazil, then I guess I would go to Switzerland. Because that's the only other place I've been to that can compete with those two destinations in terms of being set up how I like, and with the service level that I like. But, because Switzerland is so expensive (for everything too), I would have to fuck less LOL! If there was no Germany or Brazil that is. Thank God there is a Germany and Brazil where I can fuck more! Hahaha!

[FiddyCent]

When I went to Prague, the premiere club at the time was K5 Relax. Then one day it was closed. What happened? I mean, what caused its demise? I remember I went with a Russian girl there (she was a decent performer and said I had a big dick ha). I also attended Sexy Sauna Club, and agree it totally sucks. I ended up not sessioning with anybody there. There was some other club in town not too far from the main square. Wish I could remember the name of it. I remember I went with two girls there. One was a blonde Russian girl who I butt fucked. I recall she kept telling me to fuck her Russian ass LOL! Also went with another girl (don't remember where she was from) who was a loud, screamer (not fake either).

I found Prague to be an outstanding tourist town, but the mongering scene was not up to my standards (went to all the top places at the time plus did a private and a call girl in my hotel room). Agree with you that overall, you would pay too much for too little in return. Maybe if you could build up a solid stable of private girls like Fiddy, that would be one thing. But, no chance of me doing that. Been to Austria too, and even there is not up to my expectations LOL! Found no place better than Brazil or Germany. Switzerland is on par for quality service, but too expensive for my wallet. If there was no Brazil or Germany, I guess I would go to Switzerland, and just fuck less. Haha!

The unofficial / official word was that the lease expired at the old K5 Relax location. The owners mentioned in a blurb on their website that they were looking for a new location to reopen. Now, I don't think this will happen anytime soon. As Delta Indigo mentioned, clubs were never a good value in Prague, but it was a convenient setup for first time tourists. That is why you believe that the city was not setup for mongering, compared to your experiences in Brazil and at the German FKKs. Based on that criteria, I will agree with you. I remember when you visited, the clubs were centrally located and the good privates were a bit of trek outside of town. Taxis were still scamming tourists and made the experience not user friendly. Soon after, more user friendly privats opened up and websites displayed photos, prices, and map locations. There were also more user reviews posted to Masher and Holkynajisto. Those were the best days in Prague. There were also many independent escorts and pornstar escorts with legitimate booking agents. The world was your oyster. Now, the decline is evident. Clubs and privats are closing. Show Park is all but finished and everybody is scared to work now. Many girls are advertising on the escort pages, but not many of them are the girls on the photos. You could still dig very hard and find a few gems in the privats, however you will need to spend a lot of time digging through profiles. It is like panning for gold, I must admit. Contrary to popular belief, I do not have a stable of girls here. I rely on Svetaci and Tapky to provide the updated information on the good privat girls. There are many providers like the ones you remember that are still out there. I have even stumbled upon a contact number for the Russian providers. Prices now are comparable to German FKKs, but it is buyer beware. PM me if you want that number. No guarantees that you will get a girl to scream for you to fuck her Russian ass, but from the photos that were sent to me, I could definitely invite a few over to my hotel room. I do believe that 2020 is a complete writeoff. Wishful thinking will lead me to believe that this will all be over by late June or July, but in reality I think the Czech Republic will be closed for a very long time. I am thinking that Asia will reopen first. If I want to get some action, I am looking at that neck of the woods. Good luck to you TC. I really find it hard to believe that you will want to fuck LESS in Switzerland. Why not just go back to Brazil?

FiddyCent.

[FiddyCent]

I used to go there a lot from 2005 to 2008. They used to have a large selection of girls from all over Eastern Europe. At some point they remodelled, really ruining the layout of the club, whose brilliant idea that was, I have no idea. In 2009 I discovered my first FKK, Goldentime Vienna, and the rest is history, I learned that Czech clubs (I am not talking about privates, FiddyCent) are bad value for money. The service is inferior and the cost frequently higher.

Sweet Paradise in 2005 and 6, was an okay deal with the prices back then and the GBP / CZK exchange rate, no longer to say the least. From what I have heard Atlas Cabaret had a lot of legal problems, I was in Prague in November and December and its previous location is occupied by Sexy Sauna Club, a poor Czech attempt at an FKK, which is very poor value for money.

It looks like the location of this place has moved, no longer the same old location. The local police chief who I think resided near the previous location had a vendetta against this club and I wonder if they are still subject to greater scrutiny than before. I am not sure this club would be anything like its former self in the heydays.

Those were some good ol' days Delta Indigo (2005-2008). There were many beautiful Central and Eastern European girls all over town. I must have tried out every strip club and brothel. You could walk into Sweet Paradise and find many cute university girls there. I was never a big fan of Darling Cabaret, because there were so many available options. K5 Relax, Neon Club, and Show Park just to name a few. Soon after this, I discovered the privats. With so many good privats, there was no need for me to pay the house and club operators just to get a girl. Prices were so much lower and more of the money went directly to the girls. You also received way better service. You would not need to ask which girls offered anal sex or was willing to give BBBJ to CIM and swallow. Girls wanted to do these services, since the more options you wanted, the more money went directly into their pockets. Clubs were never a good value. They were just the easy path for tourists. You do know that I have made it my mission to tell guys about privats. Sadly, not many guys were willing to do the research it takes to find the good ones. Most guys just did not have the time or the knowhow. Sexy Sauna Club was located directly across the street from the Police station. Now I don't know where they have moved to, but you are not missing anything. It was a poor attempt at copying the German FKK model, and it was a failure in my opinion. I still need to visit Goldentime Vienna, but I may not return to Europe anytime soon. The borders may remain closed for a long time. As I mentioned, I may need to look at the Asian countries for action. This is where the borders will likely open up first. Europe will have to wait. Best of luck to you!

FiddyCent.

[FiddyCent]

My opinion. If I had to take a guess as to what the future might hold. I would say, based on what we just saw in England with "Brexit", there might be some new laws passed that will prevent more immigrants from working in non native countries. So the number of Romanians in Germany might drop significantly, BUT we might end up seeing more Germans come back to the FKK seen. I don't see this happening right away, but maybe in the next 5-7 years.

Then we might see more relaxed laws regarding prostitution in other less developed countries in Europe that were hit hard by the corona virus, like Romania, Bulgaria, maybe Czech, etc, and potentially see a new seen there for punting.

What do you think?

The more I think about it BackpackBrian, the more I believe the game is over as we know it. Here are my reasons. People are scared. The Czech government has not set a clear date to reopen the borders. Clubs were already struggling before Covid-19. No new club will open up and the big clubs are likely to suffer a huge financial hit. Show Park in Prague which was slated to close, won't reopen. If your predictions come true, then the number of providers from foreign countries will drop. That will mean that many Romanian girls will go home. That signals bad news for the FKKs. Yes, that void will be filled by German girls, but they may not be the top tier models and they definitely won't be satisfied with the current rates. Game over! If the Romanian girls stay in Romania and Czech girls stay in Prague, they will operate as independents. You may see more Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby arrangements, but that is the great unknown. There will be more competition for our dollars, and there should be a downward pressure to the prices. You will have to dig even deeper to find a gem and may encounter more scams and bait and switch, in my opinion. Prague may no longer be a top destination. Its reputation is already taken a hit. Now without order, this could be the wild west. I don't think that tourists will flock back immediately. Also, I don't believe their government wants us to visit either. Game over! Personally, I am going to make other plans now. I may need to look at Asia, since I believe this will be the first area to reopen. It is in their interest to return to normal as quickly as possible. They may have the most relaxed laws. I do hope I am wrong, but I am preparing for the worst. My future plans are aready shot, so it was good that I managed to sneak in one last visit. I don't think I will be back anytime soon. Good luck in your travels BPB!

FiddyCent.

[MelissaDeRouge]

Hi guys,

I hope everyone is healthy and safe. Wanted to do a mini report on Prague, the situation etc. I must say, that right now I am more then ever happy that I live in Czechia. The situation around covid was handled very well and I think we can see the light of living kind of more normal (altho I do not mind it which might be a bit disconcerting) life soon. Still wearing masks, but some more stores open, and hopefully in June we will be able to go for lunch to restaurant. I do not think that borders will be opened at summer to all tourists unless the situation in Europe and USA gets better. We might be safe, but we must remain safe. With the idea of everyone going into smart 2 weeks smart quarantine (and hefty penalty if you do not do that) when crossing borders to come, you better plain your trip to 2021 which looks more realistic.

Some girls have not stopped working, which is not surprising. But it is that some men still see covid as "flu" and do not care about older relatives and even visit privats. The recession will effect everyone, but those on the lower market like in privats will be effected most because they most of the time counts with money coming every day, every week, every month. I guess prices (in long term) will drop at least by 20%. Good thing for girls is that the rents got a bit cheaper too due to the fall of airBnb. But you can not expect ladies to be willing negotiate their rates. They were hit very badly by the situation, most of you have regular income and savings (which most of girls don't), and overall from January to March there is not that much work to put money on the side.

Now more than ever they will appreciate high caliber men which will treat them right (and not like order in McDonalds). You better treat those which are nice to you well. Back then you had high class escorts which you could still meet, but now those who are really interesting, move to the spoiled girlfriend sector. Keep also in mind that those with super low rates must meet way more men then those which have reasonable rates (as you would call maybe too expensive). Seeing up to 10 men a day is hard, it is not just about sex, the special girls are giving way more and they deserve your respect. So do not negotiate, they are not things.

Pozdravy z Prahy.

Melissa.

[The Cane]

I used to go there a lot from 2005 to 2008. They used to have a large selection of girls from all over Eastern Europe. At some point they remodelled, really ruining the layout of the club, whose brilliant idea that was, I have no idea. In 2009 I discovered my first FKK, Goldentime Vienna, and the rest is history, I learned that Czech clubs (I am not talking about privates, FiddyCent) are bad value for money. The service is inferior and the cost frequently higher. Sweet Paradise in 2005 and 6, was an okay deal with the prices back then and the GBP / CZK exchange rate, no longer to say the least. From what I have heard Atlas Cabaret had a lot of legal problems, I was in Prague in November and December and its previous location is occupied by Sexy Sauna Club, a poor Czech attempt at an FKK, which is very poor value for money.

When I went to Prague, the premiere club at the time was K5 Relax. Then one day it was closed. What happened? I mean, what caused its demise? I remember I went with a Russian girl there (she was a decent performer and said I had a big dick ha). I also attended Sexy Sauna Club, and agree it totally sucks. I ended up not sessioning with anybody there. There was some other club in town not too far from the main square. Wish I could remember the name of it. I remember I went with two girls there. One was a blonde Russian girl who I butt fucked. I recall she kept telling me to fuck her Russian ass LOL! Also went with another girl (don't remember where she was from) who was a loud, screamer (not fake either).

I found Prague to be an outstanding tourist town, but the mongering scene was not up to my standards (went to all the top places at the time plus did a private and a call girl in my hotel room). Agree with you that overall, you would pay too much for too little in return. Maybe if you could build up a solid stable of private girls like Fiddy, that would be one thing. But, no chance of me doing that. Been to Austria too, and even there is not up to my expectations LOL! Found no place better than Brazil or Germany. Switzerland is on par for quality service, but too expensive for my wallet. If there was no Brazil or Germany, I guess I would go to Switzerland, and just fuck less. Haha!

[Delta Indigo]

I haven't been to Prague in about 10 years and last time I was there.

Atlas Cabaret (old name) used to be one of my favorite clubs.

They had rooms where punters could take girls for 30-60 min for FS.

Question 1 - Does this new club Atlasgogo.com have rooms where you can take girls or is that all shut down?

I know they had problems over the years, shut down, re opened, shut down again, etc, etc.

Question 2 - I assume Darling Cabaret across the street still has rooms?

I used to go there a lot from 2005 to 2008. They used to have a large selection of girls from all over Eastern Europe. At some point they remodelled, really ruining the layout of the club, whose brilliant idea that was, I have no idea. In 2009 I discovered my first FKK, Goldentime Vienna, and the rest is history, I learned that Czech clubs (I am not talking about privates, FiddyCent) are bad value for money. The service is inferior and the cost frequently higher.

Sweet Paradise in 2005 and 6, was an okay deal with the prices back then and the GBP / CZK exchange rate, no longer to say the least. From what I have heard Atlas Cabaret had a lot of legal problems, I was in Prague in November and December and its previous location is occupied by Sexy Sauna Club, a poor Czech attempt at an FKK, which is very poor value for money.

It looks like the location of this place has moved, no longer the same old location. The local police chief who I think resided near the previous location had a vendetta against this club and I wonder if they are still subject to greater scrutiny than before. I am not sure this club would be anything like its former self in the heydays.

[BackpackBrian]

I haven't been to Prague in about 10 years and last time I was there.

Atlas Cabaret (old name) used to be one of my favorite clubs.

They had rooms where punters could take girls for 30-60 min for FS.

Question 1 - Does this new club Atlasgogo.com have rooms where you can take girls or is that all shut down?

I know they had problems over the years, shut down, re opened, shut down again, etc, etc.

Question 2 - I assume Darling Cabaret across the street still has rooms?

[BackpackBrian]

Agreed that the new (condom) law worsened the upsell effect, that already became more dominant in the big (tourist) clubs, since the last 4 to 5 years. Of course foreigners are also a part of the success of many FKKs (I am also not from Germany), and it is not about lot of individuals. But big groups spending way too much money in GoldenTime, Sharks, Oase, etc for mediocre service, did the average service level decline rapidly in these clubs (for the standard rates, of course when people are so stupid to consistently pay double or triple this, then the girls adapt to it. Only several (smaller) clubs did a good job in maintaining the "standard" service levels in Germany (SC Venus, Bernds, Babylon, Atlanta, etc). Happily the larger Globe in Zurich also did a good job on "service management". Like the good Privates in Prague offer still very good service, but the tourist areas (like ShowPark) are getting worse and worse.

Let's hope we can do more research on this in the coming months. The most important is we will be able to monger in any form soon!

Hi Maxime,

Thanks for the post. I used to frequent Prague 10 years ago and some of the clubs were pretty great!

I remember Atlas Cabaret (before closing) had a girl that was a dancer (tall, brunette, skinny, clit piercing, natural see breasts) I don't even think she was a pro, just a dancer there, but I had such a thing for her.

This was about 7-10 years ago.

I remember she was on their website as the feature dancer.

That's one of the reasons I went back to Prague a couple of times.

Maybe you know who this girl is?? I doubt it, but I've wondered if she moved to another club or some private agency?

I never really hit up any privates in Prague because I never spent that much time in the city (2-4 days).

Question. Can you tell me what some of your favorite privates are and what the standard prices are for 30 min.

I'm guessing $100-150 US.

[BackpackBrian]

Well, it will never go back to the way it was BackpackBrian. Several guys have noted that in the short run, immediately after the businesses reopen, that the prices will go up. Then it is up to the individual to see if they are willing to pay that. My prediction, if there are more girls working, they will all be in stiff competition for the few dollars that are floating around. You will need to remember that guys cannot just jump on a plane to go. They themselves need to build up savings and recover from the market crash. For the guys that are well off, they may go back and pay the asking prices, but I won't be one of them. This is hitting me hard in the pocket book too. If a girl asks me for more than 100 Euros for 30 minutes, then I will just not go. It all boils down to supply and demand. Who knows which FKKs will survive this? I am keeping a close eye on Prague. I am sure many privats won't be able to survive after this. In this market, you will see a jump towards more independent girls. Guys definitely need to control their urges to pay the asking price..

Hi Fiddy,

Thanks for the take on what's going on. I was prepping for a Thailand / Vietnam / Philippine / Malaysia tour in early Feb, then pass through Germany / Switzerland on my way home from Asia.

So now I'm in the waiting game. I predicted up selling and rate hikes after they announced the condom law a few backs. I started punting in 2004 right out of collage and boy it was a different time. Palace, Artemis, etc, etc.

I was in Germany late October to mid November and I hit up the Frankfurt big 5 and then a bunch of smaller clubs in and around Dusseldorf. I'm still a cheap bastard and held firm on BBBJ + FS for 50 E and I had many girls accept.

I negotiated with some for 70-80 E. The up-selling and rate hikes from the law was a very easy prediction, but this I'm not so sure about. I can't see what will happen. It's not clear yet.

My opinion. If I had to take a guess as to what the future might hold. I would say, based on what we just saw in England with "Brexit", there might be some new laws passed that will prevent more immigrants from working in non native countries. So the number of Romanians in Germany might drop significantly, BUT we might end up seeing more Germans come back to the FKK seen. I don't see this happening right away, but maybe in the next 5-7 years.

Then we might see more relaxed laws regarding prostitution in other less developed countries in Europe that were hit hard by the corona virus, like Romania, Bulgaria, maybe Czech, etc, and potentially see a new seen there for punting.

What do you think?

[FiddyCent]

Agreed that the new (condom) law worsened the upsell effect, that already became more dominant in the big (tourist) clubs, since the last 4 to 5 years. Of course foreigners are also a part of the success of many FKKs (I am also not from Germany), and it is not about lot of individuals. But big groups spending way too much money in GoldenTime, Sharks, Oase, etc for mediocre service, did the average service level decline rapidly in these clubs (for the standard rates, of course when people are so stupid to consistently pay double or triple this, then the girls adapt to it. Only several (smaller) clubs did a good job in maintaining the "standard" service levels in Germany (SC Venus, Bernds, Babylon, Atlanta, etc). Happily the larger Globe in Zurich also did a good job on "service management". Like the good Privates in Prague offer still very good service, but the tourist areas (like ShowPark) are getting worse and worse.

Let's hope we can do more research on this in the coming months. The most important is we will be able to monger in any form soon! .

From what I am reading, this coronavirus is not going away anytime soon. With no way of knowing when the curve will flatten and no vaccine in place, the borders will remain closed to foreigners. Eventually, there will be a lot of desperate girls out there looking for money. The men may not show up either, because they themselves will be struggling to rebound from the financial hit they have taken. Also, with air travel restrictions still in place and a self quarantine order upon arrival, this may discourage travel well into the future. Most people have on average two weeks on a trip. If that is enforced, who will waste their time flying to a foreign country only to spend it in a hotel room? Which escort will risk visiting a guy in his hotel room? If there is no drop in numbers in Europe and the coronavirus expected to resurge in the fall, that leaves a really small window of opportunity to travel. Of course the girls will demand more money, as there is a perceived risk, but if a guy is desperate enough he might pay any price for the service. If you are already in Europe, you should have more options. For those in sex prison, we are scrambling for alternatives. Also, based on the information I am reading, the Czech Republic has no set timeline as to when they will reopen the borders to foreigners. Best case scenario, the virus disappears in June. That leaves a 3 month window to visit. Worst case scenario, the virus lingers on and there is a second wave of infections. That will keep everything locked down and places closed. That will lead to a huge economic disaster. People will become desperate for money and work. Cities may descend into chaos. Let's hope that this apocalyptic scenario doesn't play out. All the best to you Mon. Ami!

FiddyCent.

[Maxime]

I believe the same number of overseas tourists visited FKKs in the past, Maxime. It's downfall can be traced directly back to the condom law. You still can get substandard FKK service if you pay the posted 50 Euros for 30 minutes. The girls now just have an excuse to upsell. Besides now that all the FKKs have been forced to close their doors, tell me where are the girls working now? They need men like us and foreign money to survive. So, think of this as a positive. You will have your reset button. Just push it. In Germany and in the Czech Republic, wherever you decide to return first.

FiddyCent.

Agreed that the new (condom) law worsened the upsell effect, that already became more dominant in the big (tourist) clubs, since the last 4 to 5 years. Of course foreigners are also a part of the success of many FKKs (I am also not from Germany), and it is not about lot of individuals. But big groups spending way too much money in GoldenTime, Sharks, Oase, etc for mediocre service, did the average service level decline rapidly in these clubs (for the standard rates, of course when people are so stupid to consistently pay double or triple this, then the girls adapt to it. Only several (smaller) clubs did a good job in maintaining the "standard" service levels in Germany (SC Venus, Bernds, Babylon, Atlanta, etc). Happily the larger Globe in Zurich also did a good job on "service management". Like the good Privates in Prague offer still very good service, but the tourist areas (like ShowPark) are getting worse and worse.

Let's hope we can do more research on this in the coming months. The most important is we will be able to monger in any form soon! .

[FiddyCent]

Hi Fiddy,

Do you think this virus will change pricing after quarantine is lifted and the FKK's re open?

I posted about the condom law before it took affect and said all we would see is a price increase with more up selling, I was right.

Do you think this virus will change it back or make the girls upsell more?

Just looking for your opinion as I have read your posts over the years.

Well, it will never go back to the way it was BackpackBrian. Several guys have noted that in the short run, immediately after the businesses reopen, that the prices will go up. Then it is up to the individual to see if they are willing to pay that. My prediction, if there are more girls working, they will all be in stiff competition for the few dollars that are floating around. You will need to remember that guys cannot just jump on a plane to go. They themselves need to build up savings and recover from the market crash. For the guys that are well off, they may go back and pay the asking prices, but I won't be one of them. This is hitting me hard in the pocket book too. If a girl asks me for more than 100 Euros for 30 minutes, then I will just not go. It all boils down to supply and demand. Who knows which FKKs will survive this? I am keeping a close eye on Prague. I am sure many privats won't be able to survive after this. In this market, you will see a jump towards more independent girls. Guys definitely need to control their urges to pay the asking price. If not, this market will be lost forever. I predict that Show Park won't survive. They were planning to close anyways. When the girls are finally allowed to work, they will organize in groups themselves, or work independently from pimps for a bigger cut themselves. They may have boyfriend / pimps or need to hire protection. What I believe is, the rebound won't be as quick as I would hope. We are all in this for the long haul. Everybody suffers. The latest reports say that the Czech Republic won't reopen their borders in the near future. That will hurt all the girls. They will try to find other ways to make money. You may see more girls work as Cam girls. The others will look for sugar daddies. I believe this is where you will find most of the action. It will be the same for every country. It may be time for me to move on as well. I don't have a crystal ball, but I see opportunity. If not in Prague, then elsewhere. Play it smart!

FiddyCent.

[BackpackBrian]

I believe the same number of overseas tourists visited FKKs in the past, Maxime. It's downfall can be traced directly back to the condom law. You still can get substandard FKK service if you pay the posted 50 Euros for 30 minutes. The girls now just have an excuse to upsell. Besides now that all the FKKs have been forced to close their doors, tell me where are the girls working now? They need men like us and foreign money to survive. So, think of this as a positive. You will have your reset button. Just push it. In Germany and in the Czech Republic, wherever you decide to return first.

FiddyCent.

Hi Fiddy,

Do you think this virus will change pricing after quarantine is lifted and the FKK's re open?

I posted about the condom law before it took affect and said all we would see is a price increase with more up selling, I was right.

Do you think this virus will change it back or make the girls upsell more?

Just looking for your opinion as I have read your posts over the years.

[FiddyCent]

Completely agree. This is THE reason many german FKK / Clubs went downhill last few years. Too many (oversees) tourist that pay double the normal rate for a standard session. And of course most girls adapted to this as the new standard in clubs like Sharks, Oase, etc.

I believe the same number of overseas tourists visited FKKs in the past, Maxime. It's downfall can be traced directly back to the condom law. You still can get substandard FKK service if you pay the posted 50 Euros for 30 minutes. The girls now just have an excuse to upsell. Besides now that all the FKKs have been forced to close their doors, tell me where are the girls working now? They need men like us and foreign money to survive. So, think of this as a positive. You will have your reset button. Just push it. In Germany and in the Czech Republic, wherever you decide to return first.

FiddyCent.