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05-08-20 06:48 #11457
Posts: 1222Originally Posted by TheNextOne [View Original Post]
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05-08-20 06:12 #11456
Posts: 6342Originally Posted by BananaBoi [View Original Post]
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05-08-20 02:39 #11455
Posts: 3133Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus [View Original Post]
Yes, First and Business class is important but even if you charge top price and fill each seat it doesn't provide a large enough profit. Believe it or not, the airlines have stats for everything including what it cost to have a can of coke on the aircraft, every piece of equipment example food cart empty or full has a number, it isn't all about passengers there is also cargo and mail there are even contracts with companies like UPS, FedEx, DHL, what can't be delivered by trucks commercial aircraft are used.
When it comes to Passengers sure more attention is paid to the high flyers all the attractions their clubs, I use Eva because I fly them exclusively but their marketing is the same worldwide, they have programs to attract you back even in economy minimum trips per year gets you to the next level card that gives you the use of some of their clubs, a number of times on a crowded flight I've been moved to Economy plus and Economy plus to Business to show their appreciation when the seats go empty.
In an IATA report recently that social distance wouldn't work on airlines to make a profit since in general even before the virus you need you got to have a 70% load factor to make a profit. That being said I'm no expert but 30 plus years in the industry I've sold tickets, done Cargo, mail and loaded my share of bags manually and by machine, done years of aircraft load planning and seen tons of profit and loss statement in contract negotiation it isn't all about just Business class.
Yes, Airlines are one of the riskiest business in the world, but like every business, it just isn't about the airlines there are thousands of vendors involved into a flight to a spoon, blanket, and pillow that is used the list is endless. There is no loyalty it is about the lowest fare best bang for your money but in 3 bankruptcy whether the program is enough for the passenger who got screwed is enough is to be determined by each traveler but make no mistake they do try whether it is enough for you and everyone that is the big question but it isn't all about Business class.
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05-08-20 00:47 #11454
Posts: 3691Originally Posted by TheNextOne [View Original Post]
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05-07-20 16:14 #11453
Posts: 539Airlines
They care about business class, but that's all. Economy passengers are neutral at best and have no loyalty, points etc is just BS marketing for the vast majority, to encourage them to to exchange real cash for Alice in Wonderland marketing babble. Ryan air is more open about it, but make no mistake about the margins and tight cashflow. Even with super cheap oil (JET-A1) and 90% loadings in passengers and cargo, airlines are a risky business, and passengers have short memories.
Their insolvency folks and bondholders know that. I would not be buying hotels and airline tickets, no matter what they promise about no change fees etc. A more accurate description would be a donation to their corrupt and stupid bankers that lent insane amounts of cash for a marginal business.
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05-07-20 12:26 #11452
Posts: 11Originally Posted by Franciscass [View Original Post]
If the woman is even remotely attractive, she has a lot of men who want her. Period. If you deny that, you're simply an idiot. That was what my message was trying to get at.
Let me elaborate my point with facts.
- In Quatar, the population is around 3 million.
Amongst the 3 million, a few oligarchs, who have have the best looking women in their harems, and 98% of ugly low skilled workers men from Pakistan, who spend their entire days working construction. They never get any pussy. Trust me.
- In India, the female to male sex ratio is absolutely horrifying. That's why you have, and the entire internet is making fun of Indians trying to find a partner.
In fact, Indians are even made fun of here, because they usually register with pathetic messages like "please help me trying to find a female".
Look at the Indian subforums, the admins of http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/ actually BAN this kind of desperate message on this forum.
You never see any woman doing this, because women have unlimited dating choices.
And not all females are attractive.
Once again, the attractive Indian girls have millions of Indians men "in love" with them.
- Same in China. Here are documentaries of all the "single Chinese men" who are left behind:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4orQ0p788k
https://www.france24.com/en/20170609...y-seeking-wife
- In Europe, it's the same story.
Look for the video "incels spark civil war in Europe" from Black Pigeon Speaks too.
The Female to Male ratio is already bad in Germany. It got even worse in 2015 when Merkel imported millions of low IQ slaves to fill up the factories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuhLRzP2-0Y
Everywhere in the world, look at youtube: any remotely attractive girl gets 10 million views, even if her content is sh*t.
Look at this little polish working girl:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1V6iMUCPtg
She's not even that attractive, but she still gets millions of messages from horny men online; and in fact, she is making fun of them in this video.
You get my point or are you still not getting it? I have plenty of other examples.
You're a regular here right? You must have seen a lot of girls in your years. Why don't you ask girls themselves? I have asked them. Even "average looking" working girls have a lot of regulars who want to fuck them.
Why do only men pay in tinder? Why do women get into any night club easily? Etc. Do I have to keep going?
The Female to Male ratio everywhere is skewed in females's favor, and once again, I'm not even talking about attractive girls.
Attractive healthy slim girls are on another level, they soon will have around 5 billions of men who want to get into their pants.
That's the way it is. I live on Planet earth, and these are my observations after 2 years of studying the Dating Market.
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05-07-20 12:03 #11451
Posts: 3133Originally Posted by Kerrstar [View Original Post]
It all comes down to who you are flying I watch a Bloomberg interview the CEO of Ryan Airline he was complaining about going out of business he treats his customer like shit and if he goes under good and those using them I think in Ryan case yes the credit note will be useless. If you use China Southern they go under expect it up the ass with a red hot poker and they will look you straight in the face like the Wuhan Virus it wasn't us! It is a choice and what you believe when I do book with Eva I'm not going to lose any sleep over them going under.
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05-07-20 04:20 #11450
Posts: 666Originally Posted by Kerrstar [View Original Post]
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05-07-20 03:49 #11449
Posts: 381Originally Posted by LittleBigMan [View Original Post]
I wouldn't personally book flights now. Even if the airline stays afloat, the route you have bought may be cancelled and a credit note may not be of any use.
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05-07-20 02:18 #11448
Posts: 3133I understand the point of not booking for an airline ticket it is a personal choice as what you think might happen. The question to me is the airline going to shut its doors I've been involved with 3 airline bankruptcy that doesn't make me an expert and yes the passengers are the one that will suffer aside from maybe not getting all their money back fast or all of it they fare better than the employees because of one of the objectives of the judge is to keep the airline afloat and keep jobs even if their wages and benefits are cut or even eliminated.
Once out of bankruptcy the first market plan is to get their regulars back with incentives second if they do actually shut their doors for good other airlines usually will come forward to make good whole or part for those stuck with airline or vouchers. Now, this might not sit well with any of you particular as mention if the price is higher and you have to pay more or the remaining airline service aren't up to par with your travel needs. In all the bankruptcy none of the airlines ever stopped operating even for one day in fact if you are a gambler that is when investors are standing by to invest since the operating cost has been lower with that a greater chance of making a quick profit.
The last ten years right after bankruptcy, United merge or buy Continental, Northwest / Delta, USAirways / American West, USAirways / American, of course, none of these are International airlines like Eva or Cathay Pacific regardless of it isn't as bleak as one thinks?
Now of course none of this history really applies today to the Virus, no one has ever seen anything like this before if you are like me the moment you wake up Virus till the moment you put your head on the pillow it is Virus even if you follow all the procedure not to get it your face still itch, there is so much talk of the virus I feel like a virus. When it comes to travel I know when I need to travel it isn't for mongering so I'm going to book ahead even if it is a year in advance I read all the fine print and balance it all out sometimes you come out ahead sometimes you come up short that is just life that includes P4 P too.
The virus has brought a new frontier to traveling and it isn't going to be pretty for the next few years will there be airline closing for good yes contrary to history but the market will still be there those who collapse was already collapsing no different than bars and GoGo. On a personal note, I hope 100% of the monopoly owned places in Pattaya Soi 6, LK Metro all close down and they can take their website and all those clowns who run around Pattaya at night as if they run the town and go home.
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05-07-20 01:26 #11447
Posts: 539One more point on the economics of pussy
Where P = 1 hour GFE, you=median utilization rate in T, T=time.
Sound value is UP / T, versus marriage that is fractional you for dubious P over unbounded time x T, aka over subscription in a monopoly or GPS. This is suspect is the root of feminist objections, bypassing the compulsory subscription for the equivalent of a gig economy pussy. The female is a wasting asset and has limited time to sell the oversubscription which the hobby undermines. Their real beef is sex pricing data being transparent versus other value add. Any many have nothing but sex to sell. There are some amazing, high value women worth far beyond pussy. They are unicorns. However, plenty of fat, out of shape beta males too, so they exploit the above.
From Wham (1982) "Go for it" George Micheal:
Young guns, having some fun crazy ladies keep 'them on the run.
Wise guys realize there's danger in emotional ties.
See me, single and free no tears, no fears, what I want to be.
One, two, take a look at you death by matrimony.
CHORUS.
Hey sucker.
(What the hell's got into you?
Hey sucker.
(Now there's nothing you can do.).
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05-07-20 01:20 #11446
Posts: 539Don't be the fool in the game: airlines and hotels bookings
Goferring is astute: booking sites are crap, asymmetric risk, your "bargain" is a bit of ink on paper against a company strategically planning Chapter 11 or the local equivalent, meaning you are merely an unsecured creditor with aspirations that complicit management and creditors and bondhlders looking to screw over penny pinching marginal benefit customers (creditors), pension funds, staff and others. USD 15 trillion of corporate debt, bonds, derivatives and so on. Already predicated on fake accounting is yet to be shown up for the lies and deceit it always was.
You will lose!
The sites themselves are incorporated in tropical isles with arbitration clauses etc to maximally transfer risk one-way. As for enforcing against a Thai hotel, good luck with that. Save your cash. It will be not COD but sperm on delivery in a pretty girly mouth.
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05-07-20 00:25 #11445
Posts: 3436Originally Posted by Sammon [View Original Post]
Where I am, we are just starting to see airlines collapse and I'm sure they won't be the last.
Enjoy. G.
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05-06-20 21:45 #11444
Posts: 3282Originally Posted by RedKilt [View Original Post]
General consensus is to hold off buying anything. In all likelihood there will not be a mad rush of regular as well as monger tourists for some time till medicine and vaccine comes online.
I am one of those who book 6- 8 months ahead to get the best deals for airline and hotel bookings.
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05-06-20 14:15 #11443
Posts: 6342Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
Totally agree with Red Kilt. I personally will not book a ticket until it is clear that Thailand borders have reopened.