German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[The Cane]

It will just like after new BBBJ law when we thought no more BBBJ, we still got it same with little extra cost most of time, so after corona, girls in FKK will be just charging mongers extra for non disinfection touching session LOL, you don't pay that you don't touch LOL!

It will be back to normal soon or later like we human semi-forget about most events that happen.

A max of 300 Euros for an hour of sex with BBBJ / CIM, pussy licking and fucking, getting my nuts sucked, and butt fucking is enough money! I'm not paying any more than that! If these tutes want more, the hell with them! I can just go to Zurich then LOL! This shit is getting too expensive for a monger!

[Mr Ho]

Until vaccines become available next year, I wonder whether this business will ever be the same any more.

It will just like after new BBBJ law when we thought no more BBBJ, we still got it same with little extra cost most of time, so after corona, girls in FKK will be just charging mongers extra for non disinfection touching session LOL, you don't pay that you don't touch LOL!

It will be back to normal soon or later like we human semi-forget about most events that happen.

[Presario1626]

Until vaccines become available next year, I wonder whether this business will ever be the same any more.

[Mr Ho]

Personal preferences and needs (time, discretion, all-in-one-package in entry fee, horny atmosphere of a club vs a kind of exclusivity in an apartment.) determine where to go. Same for choice between body massage or date with immediate sexual features. In my personal point of view it's better not to compare clubs (even the small ones) with one2one dates. Being convinced and attracted more by clubs a visit or date in massage parlor / apartment merely provides the same degree of full satisfaction because I enjoy the time in clubs in advance and after the room service having a chat with other guys but also with girls.

Being residential in Frankfurt I regularly pass by the building where Pam's is located. Sometimes you can see girls smoking in the area in front of the entrance area. Not all of them look really nice although the photos may promise beauties. That's why when there is time enough to have the so-called what you see is what you get impression over more than only some seconds in a presentation show in apartments / parlors I always prefer the ride to a club where a delay by the girl of 15 minutes or half an hour isn't a problem for me (by the way also girls sometimes have to wait as their dated guy doesn't show up in time in the club without apologizing and therefore some girls have also waste time they don't know how to handle with when there is another guy who also would be interested to fill that spare time)..

As fly in monger, I stick to FKK only, but since palace is rather night shit club, and I have done tourism staff already, I am out of activities during the day in Frankfurt, so massage places can be used just for real massage, but at night I will be busy sitting down hunting for stunner to walk in from changing room. Well, one can always use massage service at palace too. Palace is too hard club to stay all day though, no outside place and limited spa area.

I checked out some of massage parlors you mentioned on internet, girls working there seems like former or current FKK girls by looking at some of their tattoo patterns, it is funny it is like gang movie, I can see pattern of tattoo you often see in FKK land to identify FKK girls even outside LOL!

[Tedesco]

Personal preferences and needs (time, discretion, all-in-one-package in entry fee, horny atmosphere of a club vs a kind of exclusivity in an apartment.) determine where to go. Same for choice between body massage or date with immediate sexual features. In my personal point of view it's better not to compare clubs (even the small ones) with one2one dates. Being convinced and attracted more by clubs a visit or date in massage parlor / apartment merely provides the same degree of full satisfaction because I enjoy the time in clubs in advance and after the room service having a chat with other guys but also with girls.

Being residential in Frankfurt I regularly pass by the building where Pam's is located. Sometimes you can see girls smoking in the area in front of the entrance area. Not all of them look really nice although the photos may promise beauties. That's why when there is time enough to have the so-called what you see is what you get impression over more than only some seconds in a presentation show in apartments / parlors I always prefer the ride to a club where a delay by the girl of 15 minutes or half an hour isn't a problem for me (by the way also girls sometimes have to wait as their dated guy doesn't show up in time in the club without apologizing and therefore some girls have also waste time they don't know how to handle with when there is another guy who also would be interested to fill that spare time).

... with massage parlor I imagine time is more accurate and punctual where as FKK girls can be ... lunch time ...

As you mentioned in rush hour periods such as lunch time it might happen that you get run out of clock as sometimes an unexpected flow of customers is facing more girls than rooms available or the massage woman with whom you've even a date fixed arranged some hours or the day before is requested by another customer coming around by chance and now the conflict between money making and overlapping of time might arise. This kind of mentally rush destroys the atmosphere as you feel like in a waiting hall of the train station even though it often only takes a few minutes. That's why I always ask in advance by phone or date messenger of the parlor to propose me a slot without such a coincidence (ok, that also needs my flexibility, but in Pam's it works always perfect and not only as a regular guest).

... when I have only 1 hour to spare .... go to ... massage parlours .... I phone up ahead ... my regulars there .... While SYTs not available, they do have a few pretty girls ...

That's the example for a personal fit between determined choice and a certain degree of flexibility.

[DasBooty]

Hopefully they will stick to June 5 for reopening or sooner. Wonder when they will let Americans into Germany?

On 17 March 2020, Federal Minister Seehofer ordered extensive restrictions on entry at Germany's external Schengen borders in order to contain the spread of the coronavirus. These restrictions are based on a communication of the European Commission supported by the heads of state and government of the EU member states. The restrictions apply to international aviation and maritime traffic originating outside the European Union until 15 May 2020.

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/f...irus-faqs.html#doc13797140 bodyText3.

It will most likely be prolonged another 30 days.

[Mr Ho]

I totally agree with you that FKKs are better. However, when I have only 1 hour to spare, say at lunchtime, I go to one of those clean spacious massage parlours I mentioned to pop. I phone up ahead of time to book my desired girl. And with my regulars there, I do get my 'ultimate sex experience'.

While SYTs are generally not available, they do have a few pretty girls in their late 20's or early 30's.

It costs 100 for 1 hour erotic massage, and for those who offer it, 50 more for covered sex. So, if only 1 hour free time is available, it would cost about the same as going to an FKK. (No food provided, but then, also no transport cost as I can walk to them.).

Right, where about can be the reason and also with massage parlor I imagine time is more accurate and punctual where as FKK girls can be late for 10 minutes etc. And if you talking lunch break as you mentioned, that 10 or 15 min delay can hold you back to go because it could lead you to be mentally rush and it is not good feeling to be rush.

But I would say avoid lunch time to go though, but if you are married, when are other time you can safely escape from your wife with good alibi like I went to lunch, which is half true LOL.

[TankTank123]

I never understand why some people go to massage parlor or red light district when there are such a good platform like FKK. ...
Maybe lack of knowledge, lazy or for bit cheaper price maybe. But satisfaction levels are much higher in FKK if they are seeking for ultimate sex experiences.

I totally agree with you that FKKs are better. However, when I have only 1 hour to spare, say at lunchtime, I go to one of those clean spacious massage parlours I mentioned to pop. I phone up ahead of time to book my desired girl. And with my regulars there, I do get my 'ultimate sex experience'.

While SYTs are generally not available, they do have a few pretty girls in their late 20's or early 30's.

It costs €100 for 1 hour erotic massage, and for those who offer it, €50 more for covered sex. So, if only 1 hour free time is available, it would cost about the same as going to an FKK. (No food provided, but then, also no transport cost as I can walk to them.).

[McAdonis]

Hopefully they will stick to June 5 for reopening or sooner. Wonder when they will let Americans into Germany?

The actual German article seems to translate to "until further notice (with June 5 being earliest)".

[Bfsie]

Since July 2017 all these locations are qualified as paysex locations by law as a handjob is also part of the bunch of paysex. That's not news but common sense and known since then. Nonetheless the client isn't compelled to have sexual intercourse but is free to enjoy a massage with or without handjob. You've never been in one of these parlors in Germany, but perhaps it would have been instructive for you in a certain way doing that.

What did I say wrong? If I understand you correctly, we both agree that Pam's and "a few that offer full service" belong to paysex establishment, therefore they must have brothel licence and they are not massage parlors by government registration.

By the way, even though I haven't been to any massage parlor in Germany, I read Rheinforum everyday and know them from other posters on Rheinforum.

[MaxSquatter]

Hopefully they will stick to June 5 for reopening or sooner. Wonder when they will let Americans into Germany?

Since July 2017 all these locations are qualified as paysex locations by law as a handjob is also part of the bunch of paysex. That's not news but common sense and known since then. Nonetheless the client isn't compelled to have sexual intercourse but is free to enjoy a massage with or without handjob. You've never been in one of these parlors in Germany, but perhaps it would have been instructive for you in a certain way doing that.

The following newspaper article (keyword: Gastgewerbe) highlights that all brothellike entities have a further lockdown lasting at least until June, 5.
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/rhein-main/lockerungen-der-corona-regeln-in-hessen-was-erlaubt-ist-16763549.html

[Tedesco]

... these places are actually not massage parlors by government registration. They are brothels with brothel licence ... not allowed to reopen in NRW and Hessen now.

Since July 2017 all these locations are qualified as paysex locations by law as a handjob is also part of the bunch of paysex. That's not news but common sense and known since then. Nonetheless the client isn't compelled to have sexual intercourse but is free to enjoy a massage with or without handjob. You've never been in one of these parlors in Germany, but perhaps it would have been instructive for you in a certain way doing that.

The following newspaper article (keyword: Gastgewerbe) highlights that all brothellike entities have a further lockdown lasting at least until June, 5.
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/rhein-main/lockerungen-der-corona-regeln-in-hessen-was-erlaubt-ist-16763549.html

[Bfsie]

there are a few that offer full service, you should be able to see what's available on their web site. If a massage has full service then I recall hearing that there are additional taxes paid so that's why it won't be available in many.

At Pam's you can see an information plate fixed somewhat hidden on the inside of the door of each room or on the wall where the mandatory use of condoms in case of some special features is mentioned. Thus there can be more but not only massage.

As TankTank123 indicated, these places are actually not massage parlors by government registration. They are brothels with brothel licence which also offer massage service besides sex. I think that this kind of place is not allowed to reopen in NRW and Hessen now.

[Chongmal]

The ones I go to are nothing like that. They are usually pleasant studios with fairly pretty, slightly older women. But this all about being pampered with a high quality, very sensual massage with a slip and slide that will finish with an intense oily handjob orgasm. It's more of an experience and not a quick fuck so I go for the two hour sessions.

Not quite in Germany, but the Yu&Mi massage parlor in Eindhoven is quite nice. They offer several types of massage.

https://www.yumi.nl/massages/

And I always left happy. At a point, they had a rather skilled S&M provider. Nothing like being masked up, in several compromising situations, and having the door window opened up so clients arriving or leaving can get a glimpse of your debauchery.

[Downandup]

Massage parlours are seedy and grungy.

The ones I go to are nothing like that. They are usually pleasant studios with fairly pretty, slightly older women. But this all about being pampered with a high quality, very sensual massage with a slip and slide that will finish with an intense oily handjob orgasm. It's more of an experience and not a quick fuck so I go for the two hour sessions.