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  1. #38080

    Re: FB Chicas

    This is absolutely true and I'm not sure why some here refuse to acknowledge it. Girls charge significantly different prices depending on where they are. I'd witnessed all sorts of permutations on this. For those that remember Geraldine from way back, she was charging 150 k at the Mansion and was available for 25 k at Mayorista. I've seen Fase 2 girls hanging around downtown available at a fraction of what they'd cost at the club. I've seen "Mansion girls" working at casas fucking guys for a fraction of what they'd get from a guest at the house.

    My last trip in February, I met a very hot looking girl at a casa during the day. After the session, I got her number and later asked her to visit me in Poblado. We agreed on 150k + taxi for her to visit me. But she said if I got a motel downtown, 50 K was fine. After we fucked again (downtown), I asked her why she wanted three times as much to visit me. She said that she didn't feel like traveling to Poblado. It doesn't make sense, but she apparently had a comfort zone.

    Of course every prepago doesn't do this. But a hell of a lot of them do.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    My two cents on this and then some random thoughts, first yes I can vouch for PN, have seen a few of the girls in his stable during the past year, have received recommendations of ones that are great and also just so-so, have also seen his personal photos and videos of his chicas with him, all good shit so every one just lighten up.

    I also know for a fact that I have met chicas in centro who wanted or needed to earn a few pesos BEFORE they head to their work at clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or into Park Lleras / Poblado and into clubs like Gustos, yes they did look a bit out of place working in centro botero plaza so I scooped them up quickly and paid them 25% of what they charge later in the evening in the clubs, so my point is that there is much truth in these chicas accepting peanuts relative to what they usually earn or I should say fleece the tourist gringo in the tourist traps.

    And all the BS with some guys here on these boards about their "special" high class webcam chicas who some claim are next in line to mother Teresa, "oh these are high class beauty's who never would even think that they would sell their ass", my gawd take off the rose colored glasses and listen up, they are all hoes, they have sold their pussy before and now and will do so in the future. To believe that these are somehow special is just utter nonsense. I know as a few years back I befriends these chicas when they were young and fresh and before they got popular. Still in contact with a few of these beauties now 3 to 5 years later.

    As for the thought that there are a few hombres who manage everything that goes on in botero or centro for that matter, the jury is still out on this for me, I do know that there are a group who want to control the girls and to some degree have worked their way into some of the chicas believing that they are the Managers of botero but certainly not the majority, just IMHO.

    Now all understand that there are cameras in and around botero, the police are watching everything that goes on.

    Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

    So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.

    Now lets go get some new fresh pussy.

    Much love and respect to all.

    The Tall Man.
    .

  2. #38079

    Awesome!

    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out!
    Soda on the bottom, cookies on the top. 'healthy food' LOL.

    I am thankful people like PN and the Tall Man share their info. I happen to think they seem pretty straight up with only the usual embellishing everyone naturally does based on our biases perspectives imaginatioin ego and realty.

    Hopefully I can create work for me there and in a 1 year or 2 I can move full time (or at least half the year to transition) to Medellin. I am trying to work on things now to make that reality happen and have already lived outside the US for the last decade--my point s--the posts here from some of the regulars are not only entertaining, they are motivating. The new MDE coming out of Covid will be interesting to watch and hopefully be a part of.

    I wonder if the strip clubs will all open up or if there will be new ones or how that will change. Fase Dos, La Isla, Luna Lunera etc. They will always have a supply of girls and the locations are already there and built so I imagine it mostly picks up as usual come 2022 when the therapeutics and pseudo-vaccines actually get spread through enough of the market (if still needed).

  3. #38078
    Saw this vid gives a little glimpse of Centro now https://youtu.be/0JuDuIZxKWg.

  4. #38077
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

    I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

    So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

    I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

    How do you know this first hand?
    No they do not have face recognition, yet anyway, but that is not far off and could happen within the next few years.

    Just step back for a moment and look at the transformation with all the public improvements they are making in this area, new streets, sidewalks, landscaping, seating, re-pavement with new signage and striping, the new walkway improvements along the the walking street Carabobo (Cr 52) and Calle 51 along with behind the vera on the whole stretch of Cundinamarca (Cr 53) etc. , etc. And the money being spent in the area, could they be planning to turn this area from a small bar street walking prostitution to a revived tourist zone? Just saying.

    Look at the glass covered exhibit on CL 51 next to the vera! Any other time and place anywhere in Colombia and this would have been demolished and back-filled and covered with gravel and pavement, but no they even have it lighted to view at night, and what is it? An old sewer pipe system.

    Next you ask about the security camera system and who is watching, you may think that it is a small room with maybe a cop haphazardly looking from time to time at a small screen! HUH they have a fully staffed and professionally equipment command center with multiple big screens, tracking camera systems, recording devices for all cameras, this rivals what you would find in a system in the USA. I have seen it.

    How do I know that they know all us gringos who frequent Botero? Been told point blank by the sergeant in a conversation I had with him about 2 weeks ago as me and my Colombian buddy were standing in ground cento Vennie x-streets.

    Was standing with my buddy and had an UNSOLICITED young Vennie simply walk up to us, withing 10 seconds two police magically showed up, beeline straight over to us, and spoke to us why we were speaking to a "known prostitute who's age is unclear and can not be verified". Yes after a few minutes they explained to us that we are being watched as they know us as the 2 gringos and that we should take their advice and leave the area and don't return that day.

    Well after about 10 minutes my buddy and I thought it best to leave so we walked over to my car parked in the parqadero behind the museum and guess what? Yes we were followed by 2 other policemen and they kept their eyes on us, walked 20 meters behind us from ground zero over and into the parking spot until we drove out and left.

    Of course we are known by the police, we stand out, I am recognizable from 3 blocks away and they have a memory like an elephant.

    So I have factual first hand experience and my ONLY reason for posting this is so others can be mindful and just a bit careful when around this area.

    Love and respect to all!

    The Tall Man.

  5. #38076
    Is it the police who are watching or the street girl union leaders and the crime syndicate capos of Botero Plaza mentioned here in past weeks? But seriously, there is plenty of surveillance by camera, tourism police, national police, military, and plainclothes police. Including the family welfare and adolescent brigade. In Plaza Botero and throughout Medellin. Getting back to cameras it is not against the law to speak with or even enter buildings with anyone of any age. It is highly illegal to engage in certain activities with people who can't legally consent to it. So, once again for anyone who needs it, the best advice is to avoid it at all times.

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

    I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

    So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

    I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

    How do you know this first hand?

  6. #38075

    OK, so it's come to this

    I am only 5% serious here because I have a warped sense of humor and the idea that we are sharing photos of our grocery carts feels like theater of the absurd. Anyway, I will first throw some shade. Pollo you throw around words like "healthy" and "fresh" but I see the sliced American cheese individually plastic wrapped and full of artificial dye along with gallons of Coca-Cola. Now for some empty bragging: Look at my cart, it's smaller but healthier. LOL!

    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out!
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  7. #38074

    Sounds Hard To Believe And Scary If True

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

    So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.
    The Tall Man.
    All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

    I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

    So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

    I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

    How do you know this first hand?

  8. #38073

    Sounds Hard To Believe But If True Scary

    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

    So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.
    The Tall Man.
    All due respect Tall Man, but this sounds a little far fetched. You actually believe the Police are "tracking" gringos in Botero?

    I've seen the camera's, and yes they have the capability to watch and follow people, but sounds like you would need quite a staff to follow individuals.

    So your saying that gringos are known by the Police, they can recognize us, and that we are on their radar, and if so, why?

    I am assuming they would have to be using facial recognition to identify all of us.

    How do you know this first hand?

  9. #38072
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    I am not a FB kind of guy as simply don't need it as I only have one dick that needs loving about every other day so can't even see the number of chicas who are in my regular rotation however I too get many FB friend requests but just don't have the time to follow through.

    Now my best Colombian buddy who over the course of the past 3 or 4 years is my wing man has literally thousands of chicas in his FB and since he is paisa and cheap as hell he gets the same chicas that many of you do for a third of the costs, he typically pays about a 100 mil for some real cuties, why? Because he loves to play the drama shit game with them and talks with them and builds up a friendship / confidence with some over the course of a year or more and so when they need some help wham he is there "Johnny on the spot" hehehehe..
    It's all good. As long as you're getting it, you get it.

    My non-pro harem has been in turmoil. The cheerleader is pissed because someone told her that I was chatting with her best friend and that her best friend was sending me videos. Which is true, but nobody can prove it. Her sister is still friendly with me, even though 3 of the sister's friends are sending me videos in exchange for a bit of support for their livestream shows and the latest chapter of the porn story I'm writing. And the cheerleader's mother friended me on Facebook.

    The cheerleader's best friend and her sister's best friend are the current interesting ones. Both of them, just last week said there was no way they would send any nude videos. Let's call them Cathy (cheerleader's BFF) and Mary (sister's BFF). Important background information: The story I'm writing is aimed at submissive women, which both have admitted fantasizing about.

    Mary reluctantly agreed to break out a nipple and did, but then went back to Disney stuff. It took about 10 minutes to convince her to reconsider the G-Rated approach. The next day she said she would try, but she's never done anything like that before. That was Sunday. I just received about 20 minutes worth that I haven't seen yet, but apparently a banana and her vibrator are both involved, plus a cameo of her mother walking in unannounced. The screenshot is her current feeling about making porn for me.

    Cathy let me add a condition to her videos in exchange for my stories. I get to add a challenge to each one. That also began Sunday. She's not as far along as Mary, but is down to just panties and today starts playing with herself. She's a bit tougher than Mary. Once I opened Mary's eyes, she jumped in headfirst. Cathy has been dipping her toe in the water, but each time she goes a bit deeper.

    Got to do something to fill my downtime. Might as well corrupt the college girls of Colombia.
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  10. #38071
    Quote Originally Posted by TheTallMan  [View Original Post]
    My two cents on this and then some random thoughts, first yes I can vouch for PN, have seen a few of the girls in his stable during the past year, have received recommendations of ones that are great and also just so-so, have also seen his personal photos and videos of his chicas with him, all good shit so every one just lighten up.

    I also know for a fact that I have met chicas in centro who wanted or needed to earn a few pesos BEFORE they head to their work at clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or into Park Lleras / Poblado and into clubs like Gustos, yes they did look a bit out of place working in centro botero plaza so I scooped them up quickly and paid them 25% of what they charge later in the evening in the clubs, so my point is that there is much truth in these chicas accepting peanuts relative to what they usually earn or I should say fleece the tourist gringo in the tourist traps.

    And all the BS with some guys here on these boards about their "special" high class webcam chicas who some claim are next in line to mother Teresa, "oh these are high class beauty's who never would even think that they would sell their ass", my gawd take off the rose colored glasses and listen up, they are all hoes, they have sold their pussy before and now and will do so in the future. To believe that these are somehow special is just utter nonsense. I know as a few years back I befriends these chicas when they were young and fresh and before they got popular. Still in contact with a few of these beauties now 3 to 5 years later.

    As for the thought that there are a few hombres who manage everything that goes on in botero or centro for that matter, the jury is still out on this for me, I do know that there are a group who want to control the girls and to some degree have worked their way into some of the chicas believing that they are the Managers of botero but certainly not the majority, just IMHO..
    The only area I can chime in on with confidence is the webcam girls. This is definitely a YMMV area. I'll give you one example.

    I was called in to meet with a new model and her husband because I was going to be her monitor. Imagine Natalie Portman at 22, a few inches taller and with a high dollar boob job. I was initially blown away. This woman and her husband clearly didn't come from the bottom of the economic ladder. One of the reasons I was being put to work with her was because she would be working outside the studio. They already had all their own equipment, lights, laptop and webcam, plus a $3,000 DLSR 35 mm Nikon which they wanted to use. They had already had a fiber line run to their apartment (467 k per month) and both spoke excellent English.

    She had recently finished schooling and was a dentist. He had a job as an accountant. Both came from estrato 6 families, they owned 2 cars and lived in a nice Hi-rise in Sabaneta. However, as a new dentist, the best she could get to work at another practice was under 2 million COP monthly. She wanted to go back to school to become an orthodontist, but didn't want her family to have to pay. So they decided on webcam modeling for her.

    She did quite well until a family member stumbled onto her webcam show. He got some screenshots and took them to her parents.

    We met once a week to go over her progress, show ideas and to keep track of whether or not it was causing problems with her marriage. She confessed to me that in college she was very outspoken against webcam and had always equated it to prostitution. However, she had come to see it in a different light.

    She has her own practice now, walking distance from Parque Lleras, although she isn't doing dentistry. She's doing beauty treatments and she says business is good.

    Many of the Webcam models get started with some pimp boyfriend, or someone like me, pays them to fuck and then talks them into webcam. Many of them continue taking citas, or go back to hooking when it doesn't work out. However, the ones who go the farthest are the ones who were brought up with a good work ethic. Those are the ones who have or will never go the direct P4P route.

    I could have used my roommate as another example. If you impressed her and caught her in the right mood, she would fuck you senseless (based on the noises I occasionally heard from her room, not personal experience) and then buy you breakfast, but if you offered her money you would feel like you just jumped into the lion cage at the zoo.

  11. #38070

    Just a small example

    Pay what you want to pay, but this is what $360,000 worth of groceries look like in Medellin. I challenge anyone from the board to go to any american store and fill up a cart with healthy food, fresh fruit, and vegetables for $100 usd. So when you're readily paying $400,000 pesos for TLN, remember you just fed her and her family for 2 weeks. But carry on BMs, Pollo Negro is out!
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  12. #38069
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Is anyone else getting swamped with Facebook friend requests? I had been getting 1 a week. I've probably had 20 today. I don't know if I hit critical mass and suddenly I'm popping up everywhere, or if there's a Facebook feeding frenzy going on. Or maybe I got on a list somewhere.
    I am not a FB kind of guy as simply don't need it as I only have one dick that needs loving about every other day so can't even see the number of chicas who are in my regular rotation however I too get many FB friend requests but just don't have the time to follow through.

    Now my best Colombian buddy who over the course of the past 3 or 4 years is my wing man has literally thousands of chicas in his FB and since he is paisa and cheap as hell he gets the same chicas that many of you do for a third of the costs, he typically pays about a 100 mil for some real cuties, why? Because he loves to play the drama shit game with them and talks with them and builds up a friendship / confidence with some over the course of a year or more and so when they need some help wham he is there "Johnny on the spot" hehehehe.

    At times I am tempted to get a taste of some of his paisa girls, the same beauties that you all see and could have access to, as he wants to share them with me, after all "Sharing is caring" right, hehehhe what are friends for.

    Now my Tinder has lighted up in the past month, have received over a hundred likes and am corresponding with a handful, possibly for a future visit, but just a lots of hoes on Tinder who only want pesos, these girls need to sell their pussy down in centro to see what life is really like.

    Much love and respect to all.

    The Tall Man.

  13. #38068
    Quote Originally Posted by PolloNegro  [View Original Post]
    Are you upset that there are people from the board who knows me personal, or are you more upset that I can still get a hard on to bang 4-6 chicas everyday. You left 4 months ago, imagine how many of them high priced Poblado chics are missing your money. Do you think that they are turning down a guaranteed $60-$80,000 pesos every day? Dude don't kid yourself.

    I can show you over 200 hundred different chicas that I have sessioned with, and can show you more than 120 chicas on this trip. You can best believe that 95% of every chic that I have sessioned with, have allowed me to video. That's just my thing, I have certain things I like to do with each chic that I really like. Stop fooling yourself that these chics are low mileage and innocent. These chics have swallowed more of my kids than I care to remember. Pretty good chance if they don't allow photos, then I only session with them once.

    I am not the type of monger to recommend girls who I have not photo'the myself or video'the myself. I don't want you to get the made up chic on a photo and then she show up as plain jain then you are wondering who the hell is this girl Pollo Negro sent, she looks nothing like her pics. I will not recommend a girl who does not do everything that I tell you she will do. I don't build these girls up to help them with dates for free sex. If I like them and build a report then I tell them that I will share their number with my friends and maybe they will call. I have no need to save these chics all to myself. I am happy to share information, if the girl catches your eye and you are in Medellin and want to date the girl. The only thing I will not do is set her price, she willl tell you what her price is.
    My two cents on this and then some random thoughts, first yes I can vouch for PN, have seen a few of the girls in his stable during the past year, have received recommendations of ones that are great and also just so-so, have also seen his personal photos and videos of his chicas with him, all good shit so every one just lighten up.

    I also know for a fact that I have met chicas in centro who wanted or needed to earn a few pesos BEFORE they head to their work at clubs like La Isla or Fase Dos or into Park Lleras / Poblado and into clubs like Gustos, yes they did look a bit out of place working in centro botero plaza so I scooped them up quickly and paid them 25% of what they charge later in the evening in the clubs, so my point is that there is much truth in these chicas accepting peanuts relative to what they usually earn or I should say fleece the tourist gringo in the tourist traps.

    And all the BS with some guys here on these boards about their "special" high class webcam chicas who some claim are next in line to mother Teresa, "oh these are high class beauty's who never would even think that they would sell their ass", my gawd take off the rose colored glasses and listen up, they are all hoes, they have sold their pussy before and now and will do so in the future. To believe that these are somehow special is just utter nonsense. I know as a few years back I befriends these chicas when they were young and fresh and before they got popular. Still in contact with a few of these beauties now 3 to 5 years later.

    As for the thought that there are a few hombres who manage everything that goes on in botero or centro for that matter, the jury is still out on this for me, I do know that there are a group who want to control the girls and to some degree have worked their way into some of the chicas believing that they are the Managers of botero but certainly not the majority, just IMHO.

    Now all understand that there are cameras in and around botero, the police are watching everything that goes on.

    Take a look at the setup in Botero, these are very sophisticated cameras and they have they ability to see everything in fine detail, just know that you are being watched and followed every moment and every step you take when your in the area, so with big brother watching just be very aware and mindful of the age whom you are speaking to and negotiating with as your in the botero, smile as your being recorded.

    So be very careful. I have first hand info that the police recognize each and every one of us and we are on their radar.

    Now lets go get some new fresh pussy.

    Much love and respect to all.

    The Tall Man.

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  15. #38066
    That would be parking yes. I use my apartment for amenities. I think 6 hour stays in Ibiza or other places like it are not that common but a higher end place is clearly more inviting for naps and lounging between rolls in the hay.

    Quote Originally Posted by MMHikeus  [View Original Post]
    I looked at the Ibiza website. On amenities icons, there are cars and motor bikes. What do they mean? Parking maybe?

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