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  1. #17135
    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    Megan will be 25 soon. If You saw new German Sofia with far prettier face than Linda. When I see American women, even maybe Mexicans and Puerto Ricans in US clubs, but I doubt for same level of looks.
    If paid sex worth in US with beauties who could compete with Romanians, then US would not need to fly and pay expensive to come to enjoy FKK land and regret so much, frustrated when closed. Some pretty Mexicans or Puerto Ricans, when American women are pretty in films, but so many fat and silicon. Same for me, if I had a club in France with French beauties who can compete with Romanians, French women can compete and stay prettier when getting older, not a strip club like Hustler or Pink paradise David Guetta, then I won t drive to FKK land. When I met 14 Russian escorts on July 2014, now and nothing about virus, I m happy when I succeed to find one as pretty as my best Romanians in FKK land, even I don t find many pretty in FKK land, but since Amour Russe was stopped by police raid, even they are rare for me, but FKK land is best place to find beauties. Not only Germany for FKK land. Wait and see for what will happen for Artemis which tell to increase entry to 90, like at GT Vienna, but do they have allowance and how for health safety?

  2. #17134
    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii50  [View Original Post]
    https://thenevadaindependent.com/art...orks-in-nevada

    In a Nevada brothel, Full sex at Dennis Hof's brothels, which has better looking girls, charge $1,000 per hour. The girl has to pays 50% of what she makes to the club.

    The main reason, Nevada or any US city would never have FKK is too many religious people would never allow it and there is no easy source of girls to work in the clubs for $50. Germany, Austria, Switzerland have easy access to poor girls from Romania, Bulgaria and many other East European countries where 50 Euros is a lot of money to them.

    FKK to me more a of relaxation club and cannot be compared to a strip club. For $60 Euro, You can come early eat breakfast, lunch and dinner. Enjoy dry sauna, steam sauna, professional massage, swimming pool, watch sports on tv and full bar. With 100's of fully naked young women ranging from girl next door to absolute stunner walking around ready to have sex is the icing on the cake.

    I dream of COVID to be over, clubs reopen and all of us enjoy FKK again.
    1000 USD per hour in USA brothel is 100 Euro per hour in German FKK LOL!

    US has good access to Mexican girls though or you can actually just go to Mexico to fuck some nice Mexican beauties there? Are there any nice set up in Mexico across the border with stunner level Mexican girls?

    For rest of my life, I will frequent FKK, it was the set up I have been searching for and I found it when I was 29 years old in 2009 and I am still excited each time I go. Fucking new beautiful stunner level girl is one of very few things I do not get bored even though I have done it so many times. Many other things in life you can get bored with easily, but not fucking new beautiful stunner level girls.

    Aren't we lucky as a man? What we dreamed of when we were teen became into reality. I have been mongering the best girls since age 17, but it was always harder to find stunner girls before as I only go with stunners, but when I found FKK, number of stunners I find and I fucked accelerated. FKK is truly the best platform of brothel out there. Thanks to Germany, Switzerland and Austria. It is something to do with German speaking country and freedom like access to good sex with good quality girls. German speakers are kinky LOL!

  3. #17133
    In a Nevada brothel, Full sex at Dennis Hof's brothels, which has better looking girls, charge $1,000 per hour. The girl has to pays 50% of what she makes to the club.

    The main reason, Nevada or any US city would never have FKK is too many religious people would never allow it and there is no easy source of girls to work in the clubs for $50. Germany, Austria, Switzerland have easy access to poor girls from Romania, Bulgaria and many other East European countries where 50 Euros is a lot of money to them.

    FKK to me more a of relaxation club and cannot be compared to a strip club. For $60 Euro, You can come early eat breakfast, lunch and dinner. Enjoy dry sauna, steam sauna, professional massage, swimming pool, watch sports on TV and full bar. With 100's of fully naked young women ranging from girl next door to absolute stunner walking around ready to have sex is the icing on the cake.

    I dream of COVID to be over, clubs reopen and all of us enjoy FKK again.

    EL: less and less girls from Romania or Bulgaria are entering the prostitution, since 2015 so few new and fresh girls in the FKK, mostly always the same veteran around even only 24 YO, I am often travelling in Hungary, Romania and I can tell there are a lot of very sexy and fresh girls but they find a better way to make their living that to open their legs and mouth to everyone willing to pay 50 euros. With the covid and the new closing of the boarders like today Hungary.

    (by car you need to cross Hungary if you want to go to Austria, Germany, Switzerland) I don t believe the LU will be great in the FKK, the nice and clever girls don t want to put their health at risk only the desperate will prostitute.

  4. #17132
    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii50  [View Original Post]
    FKK to me more a of relaxation club and cannot be compared to a strip club. For $60 Euro, You can come early eat breakfast, lunch and dinner. Enjoy dry sauna, steam sauna, professional massage, swimming pool, watch sports on tv and full bar. With 100's of fully naked young women ranging from girl next door to absolute stunner walking around ready to have sex is the icing on the cake.

    I dream of COVID to be over, clubs reopen and all of us enjoy FKK again.
    I find the entry which in most cases is 75 and 90 in Artemis way too much for what I get for free in FKK club. Only very few visitors have 3 meals as you mentioned and many don't even try the food which in most cases is fast food level. The professional massage is 1 euro per minute so not free. What is left? Swim and have sauna and watch Bundesliga? Even the naked girls you get so used to them after 10 minutes. I don't even know why we pay entry, when we have to pay for the girls, the drinks etc. I would rather prefer a flat rate entrance with minimum time, in example fuck, drink and eat as much as you can in 4 hours. I would happily pay for that.

  5. #17131
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I do not see a point in these strip clubs in USA. You basically go there to get boner and go home LOL. At least the club could do is offer BBBJ service for extra 100 USD, which already is rip off compare to Germany.
    https://thenevadaindependent.com/art...orks-in-nevada

    In a Nevada brothel, Full sex at Dennis Hof's brothels, which has better looking girls, charge $1,000 per hour. The girl has to pays 50% of what she makes to the club.

    The main reason, Nevada or any US city would never have FKK is too many religious people would never allow it and there is no easy source of girls to work in the clubs for $50. Germany, Austria, Switzerland have easy access to poor girls from Romania, Bulgaria and many other East European countries where 50 Euros is a lot of money to them.

    FKK to me more a of relaxation club and cannot be compared to a strip club. For $60 Euro, You can come early eat breakfast, lunch and dinner. Enjoy dry sauna, steam sauna, professional massage, swimming pool, watch sports on tv and full bar. With 100's of fully naked young women ranging from girl next door to absolute stunner walking around ready to have sex is the icing on the cake.

    I dream of COVID to be over, clubs reopen and all of us enjoy FKK again.

  6. #17130
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    A while ago, quite a few of my co-workers, especially the sales guys, would occasionally or even frequently head out to a local strip club after a long day at work when on road.
    It is interesting that you say that. Like at one of my first sales jobs, my boss always called us prostitutes. LOL. That was how I realized there was no difference. So I do believe sales people are having an easier time understanding the hardships of the work P6 or stripper girls have to live with. And sales people might also therefore have less prejudice towards this type of work.

  7. #17129
    Sorry, don't mean to be trolling here but this is probably of some interest to US old timers.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ual-misconduct

    I was never a fan of this guy but he has his share. I am surprised he is sill able to get it up after so much fucking, get it Hard enough enough to be are a p in g these girls as per the allegations. He has been forever out of shape as we all know.

  8. #17128

    Times are a changing for strip clubs?

    A while ago, quite a few of my co-workers, especially the sales guys, would occasionally or even frequently head out to a local strip club after a long day at work when on road. Even the lady co workers would join them. Now? Forget it! This is definitely one area where feminist influence has been seen in US work place

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    But younger generations are largely eschewing strip clubs and company-expensed strip club business meetings are a thing of the past due to workplace changes. Recently, sportswear maker Under Armour told employees they could no longer write off expenses for strip club visits, with the Wall Street Journal reporting employees being told that "strip-club visits were symptomatic of practices women at Under Armour found demeaning. ".

    The lack of millennial may face a bigger challenge for adult entertainment outlets. "The Baby Boomers are retiring. They were for 20 years an amazing customer base," Alan Markovitz who operates gentlemen's clubs in four states recently told the BBC. "The millennial are not coming to the strip clubs that much. That's the issue."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48667681

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/industri...h-to-save-them

  9. #17127
    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyNuts  [View Original Post]
    If it was possible it would have been done. Only one state, Nevada, allows prostitution and then the counties within that state need to pass a law allowing businesses to provide the service. Highly populated counties do not vote to allow so a handful of sparsely populated counties about an hour outside of Las Vegas do have legal prostitution. It's a widely believed fallacy that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas. Yes it's available if you know where and how to look but it's not either legal or encouraged. A few years ago it was more tolerated in all casino bars to have working girls hanging around but most places no longer allow them to take up space. Some casinos still tolerate them if the girls are not too obvious about it and act like they are interested in playing the gambling machine at their bar seat.

    Regarding strip clubs I think "value" might depend on whether you are a drinking and party kind of guy or not. Because I am I go to Pattaya as well even though the hottest girls will rarely leave with me for sex (because I'm not Asian). Still I love the vibe and energy of being in that loud and wild agogo bar environment. And for a party Spearmint Rhino Vegas on a Friday night makes an Pattaya gogo bar seem dull by comparison. The energy in the place is just off the chart. And like fishing sometimes you're able to hook something to take home and eat. So yeah if you just want a quiet evening and easy sex the FKKs are perfect for you. If you want a wild party time and a challenge to find sex Vegas is a great.

    If you're really looking for sex in Vegas though don't go to strip clubs. Look at the main bars in each casino very late at night for single girls in high heels playing machines.
    Alright, it would be good business to set up FKK like set up in Nevada and call it "United colors of college tuition fee support center" LOL!

    I am not that into Thai girls, but I do like Eurasian (mixed blood, half white, half Asian), which are rare bleed to find in Thailand or any nations in Asia actually, but now and them, I manage to find Eurasian stunner (About 1 to 3 per year and I am constantly in search for them in the mongering market).

    Having said that, I am glad we all know where is the best places for mongering and we just have to fly. And hey, it is nice we travel at the same time of mongering, it kind of have synergy affect and make the trips we take more memorable. Only down side is we mostly only go to same countries or even same cities when we take our trips LOL! But at least when we see or hear Berlin, Frankfurt, NRW cities or Zurich, it put smile on our face as these cities are filled with amazing obscene memories that we cherish for life. Isn't it great?

  10. #17126

    OT: Vegas

    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    What stops American entrepreneur to open maybe not the same, but similar set up as FKK in USA? Legal restriction? But I thought in Nevada and some states, prostitution is legal, so something similar to FKK set up can be done if some entrepreneur is brave as Larryflynt.
    If it was possible it would have been done. Only one state, Nevada, allows prostitution and then the counties within that state need to pass a law allowing businesses to provide the service. Highly populated counties do not vote to allow so a handful of sparsely populated counties about an hour outside of Las Vegas do have legal prostitution. It's a widely believed fallacy that prostitution is legal in Las Vegas. Yes it's available if you know where and how to look but it's not either legal or encouraged. A few years ago it was more tolerated in all casino bars to have working girls hanging around but most places no longer allow them to take up space. Some casinos still tolerate them if the girls are not too obvious about it and act like they are interested in playing the gambling machine at their bar seat.

    Regarding strip clubs I think "value" might depend on whether you are a drinking and party kind of guy or not. Because I am I go to Pattaya as well even though the hottest girls will rarely leave with me for sex (because I'm not Asian). Still I love the vibe and energy of being in that loud and wild agogo bar environment. And for a party Spearmint Rhino Vegas on a Friday night makes an Pattaya gogo bar seem dull by comparison. The energy in the place is just off the chart. And like fishing sometimes you're able to hook something to take home and eat. So yeah if you just want a quiet evening and easy sex the FKKs are perfect for you. If you want a wild party time and a challenge to find sex Vegas is a great.

    If you're really looking for sex in Vegas though don't go to strip clubs. Look at the main bars in each casino very late at night for single girls in high heels playing machines.

  11. #17125
    Quote Originally Posted by MrHo  [View Original Post]
    I do not see a point in these strip clubs in USA. You basically go there to get boner and go home LOL. At least the club could do is offer BBBJ service for extra 100 USD, which already is rip off compare to Germany.
    Dude, this is USA we are talking about! At least throw in a BBBJ, you say? Like "at least give them a salt and pepper shaker with those fries!" LOL. Here, our presidents risk impeachment to get a quick blowjob from a slightly out of shape GND haha. If only obtaining head was so easy.

    Yes, go home and rub one off or put a condom on and let the girl grind you to climax where such lap dances are possible (and dispose it off in the men's room).

  12. #17124
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion, the quality of strip clubs has declined a lot in the US in the last 20 years. In mid to late 90's, when I was still quite young, it seemed like many full nude clubs had pretty hot girls, were more permissive, and of course prices were low. I had visited clubs in Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Austin, Vegas, San Diego, LOS Angeles, San Fran, Baltimore and Phoenix in the ten years between 1995 to 2005. Gradually, my visits to strip clubs have declined, ironically as I am able to afford them properly. One reason is that I discovered FKKs a while ago, and also sugar babes in the US. Secondly, my own personal relationship status changed. As others said, strip clubs are great for hanging out, have some drinks and perhaps have a few lap dances. Back then too, the lap dances were very intimate and of course I was a young buckaroo full of sperm wanting to explode, and I did unfortunately soil my pants in a few lap dances. Tootsies and Scarlets in Miami, a few joints in LOS Angeles (one very near airport, one in Van Nuys, a couple in Inglewood all were terrific. One of the prettiest girls I had ever seen was in one of those strip clubs and I had more fantasies about her than I care to admit), PT's? In Missouri near St Louis, Tanga Lounge and Mons Venus in Tampa, the aforementioned SF clubs (market street was a dump, but New Century and Mitchell Bro's at O Farrel), Centerfolds in Phoenix, all have happy memories for me. As someone said below, I had a few BJs in San Fran clubs, the only place that happened inside the club for me, but For a few hundred, it was possible to fuck strippers outside the clubs in some locations if you worked on them enough. But high friction contact was readily available - yes fully nude - in several clubs in several cities then which I understand is no longer true. Seems like many municipalities have clamped down on strip clubs in US. That said, I have hardly visited any of late, my last club visit must have been like 5 years ago when I was on business was bored and drive over to Scarlets in Miami. BTW, to the original question, some of the best lookers I have ever seen were in US strip clubs and not even the best FKK girls are comparable.
    Totally agree with you on this. I had so much fun at many Miami clubs (Tootsie, and others I forgot names), Spearmint Rhinos in Vegas and LA areas, Tropical Lei in east of LA, Mitchell Brothers in SF etc etc up until about 10-12 years ago. All were full service, most cases inside the club discreetly and some cases OTC, if you are good with the girls. I even got few total freebies from few US strippers over the time. Alas, gone are those days.

    BTW, you can try GT in Vienna right now. They are fully open normal (not much Covid scare in Austria now), and average quality is pretty good, no too fat with cottage cheese, mostly 18-25 slim and few really beautiful faces, mostly good personalities too.

  13. #17123
    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    In my opinion, the quality of strip clubs has declined a lot in the US in the last 20 years. In mid to late 90's, when I was still quite young, it seemed like many full nude clubs had pretty hot girls, were more permissive, and of course prices were low. I had visited clubs in Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Austin, Vegas, San Diego, LOS Angeles, San Fran, Baltimore and Phoenix in the ten years between 1995 to 2005. Gradually, my visits to strip clubs have declined, ironically as I am able to afford them properly. One reason is that I discovered FKKs a while ago, and also sugar babes in the US. Secondly, my own personal relationship status changed. As others said, strip clubs are great for hanging out, have some drinks and perhaps have a few lap dances. Back then too, the lap dances were very intimate and of course I was a young buckaroo full of sperm wanting to explode, and I did unfortunately soil my pants in a few lap dances. Tootsies and Scarlets in Miami, a few joints in LOS Angeles (one very near airport, one in Van Nuys, a couple in Inglewood all were terrific. One of the prettiest girls I had ever seen was in one of those strip clubs and I had more fantasies about her than I care to admit), PT's? In Missouri near St Louis, Tanga Lounge and Mons Venus in Tampa, the aforementioned SF clubs (market street was a dump, but New Century and Mitchell Bro's at O Farrel), Centerfolds in Phoenix, all have happy memories for me. As someone said below, I had a few BJs in San Fran clubs, the only place that happened inside the club for me, but For a few hundred, it was possible to fuck strippers outside the clubs in some locations if you worked on them enough. But high friction contact was readily available - yes fully nude - in several clubs in several cities then which I understand is no longer true. Seems like many municipalities have clamped down on strip clubs in US..
    Then what are you supposed to do in US strip clubs? Just pay to get a boner and go home after? LOL.

  14. #17122
    Quote Originally Posted by Kawaii50  [View Original Post]
    For a short time, I was a taxi driver in Las Vegas. I only made minimum wage, tips and kick backs from the strip clubs. The strip clubs generally kicked back the cover charge $30, if I brought them a customer.

    Palomino is an old club in North Las Vegas and total nude. They were grandfathered in to sell alcohol. The girls I saw were average. I didn't take any tourist there.

    Spearmint Rhino, topless, alcohol. Hot girls and club.

    Sapphires topless, topless, alcohol. Hot girls and club.

    Cheetahs topless, topless, alcohol. Average girls and club.

    Little Darling Nude No alcohol. I never went to that club.

    Lap dance $20 per song. If you go to the VIP room, can be $100 per song. It is easy to drop a lot of money in this environment for No Sex.

    Rules: You cannot touch the girl. Girl is topless and grinds up against you. Depends on how nasty the girls is and usually gives you a woody..
    I do not see a point in these strip clubs in USA. You basically go there to get boner and go home LOL. At least the club could do is offer BBBJ service for extra 100 USD, which already is rip off compare to Germany.

  15. #17121
    In my opinion, the quality of strip clubs has declined a lot in the US in the last 20 years. In mid to late 90's, when I was still quite young, it seemed like many full nude clubs had pretty hot girls, were more permissive, and of course prices were low. I had visited clubs in Atlanta, Miami, Tampa, Austin, Vegas, San Diego, LOS Angeles, San Fran, Baltimore and Phoenix in the ten years between 1995 to 2005. Gradually, my visits to strip clubs have declined, ironically as I am able to afford them properly. One reason is that I discovered FKKs a while ago, and also sugar babes in the US. Secondly, my own personal relationship status changed. As others said, strip clubs are great for hanging out, have some drinks and perhaps have a few lap dances. Back then too, the lap dances were very intimate and of course I was a young buckaroo full of sperm wanting to explode, and I did unfortunately soil my pants in a few lap dances. Tootsies and Scarlets in Miami, a few joints in LOS Angeles (one very near airport, one in Van Nuys, a couple in Inglewood all were terrific. One of the prettiest girls I had ever seen was in one of those strip clubs and I had more fantasies about her than I care to admit), PT's? In Missouri near St Louis, Tanga Lounge and Mons Venus in Tampa, the aforementioned SF clubs (market street was a dump, but New Century and Mitchell Bro's at O Farrel), Centerfolds in Phoenix, all have happy memories for me. As someone said below, I had a few BJs in San Fran clubs, the only place that happened inside the club for me, but For a few hundred, it was possible to fuck strippers outside the clubs in some locations if you worked on them enough. But high friction contact was readily available - yes fully nude - in several clubs in several cities then which I understand is no longer true. Seems like many municipalities have clamped down on strip clubs in US. That said, I have hardly visited any of late, my last club visit must have been like 5 years ago when I was on business was bored and drive over to Scarlets in Miami. BTW, to the original question, some of the best lookers I have ever seen were in US strip clubs and not even the best FKK girls are comparable. (I had fucked Megan in Sharks, and no she is not a 10 in my view, and if she is a 10" there were quite a few 11's and 12's in US strip clubs). But when it came to sex in strip clubs, you also better be careful because the girl can get you thrown out by a nasty bouncer. One time the guy next to me getting a lap dance in a strip club in Inglewood CA had unzipped his pant, perhaps with the intent of jacking off while the girl was dancing a few inches away and almost instantly a massive bouncer appeared, pulled him up and threw him out while the girl was cursing him.

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