Medellin Reports

[JC9999]

Using realtors to look for properties for you can be problematic, especially for foreigners. There are numerous websites like FINCARAIZ and others which will have most of the properties for sale in town and all of the SM costs, etc. Buying real estate in Colombia is like the wild west. The sellers will have multiple agents trying to sell their properties and at different listed prices, you will will even see the same properties on different websites with varying prices. Another issue is that there are no escrow companies, this is all handled by attorneys. Lots of gringo's get burnt as a result of not having a good attorney to do all the due diligence, and bringing USD into Colombia is another issue as well.

I've been waiting out COVID in the US with plans to move to Medellin when things open up and normalize. Haven't felt much of a need, nor saw much value, to speculating to the broader group here as to when that might happen or how many chicas I'm going to make acquaintances with. Once I land, that'll be a different story. Anyways, I've been looking at properties online, mostly on Casacol, to potentially purchase. This was an incredibly helpful bit of information. In about five minutes, I found two properties on each of Casacol and FINCARAIZ with materially different prices (4400 million vs 4035 million, and 2650 million vs 2350 milllion). There are others I recognize on FINCARAIZ, I just didn't immediately find them on Casacol (or LIV or Life Afar). It has given me additional perspective on the purchase situation in Colombia and how I need to be vigilant. Thanks for this, Surfer.

[Paulie97]

It has been reported that 80% of every woman in Colombia has accepted money / gifts for sex (prostitution) at some point in their life. I believe this statistic.

Please cite the source.

P.S. "I read it in a monger forum" or "some monger told me" or "all women are working girls anyway" doesn't count.

[Surfer500]

My contractor guy talked to the lady that owns the penthouse, and told me to just offer her 850 million why ya! 100 million discount. I said, ya that's great, but maybe her asking price of 950 should be 650, then how does my discount look?! I'm going to try to get some lists from realtors to see if I can gauge the market. I'm thinking a penthouse for 800 million + 200 million in furnishing, facelift, etc. Is a decent price for what I'd be getting. I think 3 months a year of rental could be about 12 k USD, as the times I would be likely to rent coincide with the tourism high-seasons, here.

Using realtors to look for properties for you can be problematic, especially for foreigners. There are numerous websites like FINCARAIZ and others which will have most of the properties for sale in town and all of the SM costs, etc. Buying real estate in Colombia is like the wild west. The sellers will have multiple agents trying to sell their properties and at different listed prices, you will will even see the same properties on different websites with varying prices. Another issue is that there are no escrow companies, this is all handled by attorneys. Lots of gringo's get burnt as a result of not having a good attorney to do all the due diligence, and bringing USD into Colombia is another issue as well.

[Surfer500]

That is why you catch and release. You don't cozy up to every Tina, Diana, and Hooker calling them your friend. You remain unpredictable to people and you don't do illegal shit around them.

I would think it is more so that in the Latin American culture people tend to live with family until they are married, hence the love motels. I have had no problems staying at the houses or apartments of chicks that did happen to live alone.

Mr. E lots of guys don't roll like you on this board. They like having Chicas in the confines of their apartment versus using the Love Motels. I'm a switch hitter, I do both as appropriate and where I feel comfortable depending on whom I'm with.

[Surfer500]

SJobs, I didn't really consider this. There are two views: 1) the portero / security gives you a nice layer of protection, or 2) no portero is stopping some chica and 3 sicarios from getting by him to come ransack your place, rough you up, or worse. I've never used a love motel in Medellin, but that could be in the cards if I were to buy a place, here. It's a catch-22. You'd want to lure some hotties to your nice penthouse, but you've got to be careful about potentially untrustworthy people knowing too much about you. Imagine how easy it would be for a girl to make a long-term play, become tight with you, get a spare key made somehow, you're following each other on social media, she knows when you're out of the country, and you come back to an empty apartment. Of course, that would be much better than another scenario of you being in the penthouse when they arrive. This won't scare me away, but it does help me take a different view in an attempt to be as safe as possible.!

This is a real issue that I have some experience with, albeit nobody will be emptying out your apartment in front of the Porteros while your absent. Having a nice place with all the amenities and wanting to party with Chicas you like in your place is hard to resist and in the past I have been very cautious and hence have ended up in the Love Motels frequently over your very concerns. And as far as the Love Motels, there okay for a few hours and an occasional overnighter, but sparse on amenities. Anyone considering buying an apartment in Medellin should think twice about buying in a building with no Portero's. I have a friend who bought a place in Laureles and is frightened to bring Chicas there for all the reasons you mentioned, albeit he does on occasion, but is looking to move over your concerns.

[Mr Enternational]

You'd want to lure some hotties to your nice penthouse, but you've got to be careful about potentially untrustworthy people knowing too much about you.

That is why you catch and release. You don't cozy up to every Tina, Diana, and Hooker calling them your friend. You remain unpredictable to people and you don't do illegal shit around them.

There must be a reason if all local men, including single, bring their lovers and paid girlfriends to short-time hotels and never at home. Right?

I would think it is more so that in the Latin American culture people tend to live with family until they are married, hence the love motels. I have had no problems staying at the houses or apartments of chicks that did happen to live alone.

[The Tall Man]

Perception is everything, and most Colombians are very religious and don't tolerate our hobby well..

Agree that for most Colombians perception is everything and yes they are religious at face value, heck even Escobar and just about every hit man were very religious, did the sign of the cross, attended mass, had certain saints that they gave offerings to so they would be protected as they went out to murder, yes all very religious indeed. There is a marked difference between being religious and being spiritual.

Now your next statement can not be so far from the mark, agreed that in public when they are with family and close friends and in the family gatherings they appear to be religiously devoted to their families and kids and keeping up with the appearance of being morally right but when that is removed they are dogs worse than most of the horniest mongers that you could find on these boards, myself included.

It has been reported that 80% of every woman in Colombia has accepted money / gifts for sex (prostitution) at some point in their life. I believe this statistic. Next, look at the statistic of the age that girls have sex, alarming and the result is that Colombia has about the youngest age for pregnant single mothers. Throughout just the past 10 years I have met dozens of single mothers with children whom they gave birth at when they were 12 to 15 years old, just normal life here.

The rate of adultery for both men and woman is also about the highest in South America. Why do you think that the word grilla has taken on such a profound meaning? It is normal for a 20 to 45 year old woman to have many men at the same time. These are facts, I don't judge them as it is just the way it is.

Now don't get me started on the number of incest victims from these religious fathers, step-fathers, uncles and others here in Colombia. I have first hand knowledge of the depth and extent of this horrible crime and rarely ever gets talked about, again keeping the appearance of a very religious community and country.

So yes in order to keep with the perception buildings have policy's. I respect these policys as I too have these in place in my apartment however we never know what goes on behind closed doors!

Just my rant for the day as NO ONE wants to stay on the topic of pussy, hehehehe.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

[Just Incognito]

SJobs, I didn't really consider this. There are two views: 1) the portero / security gives you a nice layer of protection, or 2) no portero is stopping some chica and 3 sicarios from getting by him to come ransack your place, rough you up, or worse. I've never used a love motel in Medellin, but that could be in the cards if I were to buy a place, here. It's a catch-22. You'd want to lure some hotties to your nice penthouse, but you've got to be careful about potentially untrustworthy people knowing too much about you. Imagine how easy it would be for a girl to make a long-term play, become tight with you, get a spare key made somehow, you're following each other on social media, she knows when you're out of the country, and you come back to an empty apartment. Of course, that would be much better than another scenario of you being in the penthouse when they arrive. This won't scare me away, but it does help me take a different view in an attempt to be as safe as possible.

My contractor guy talked to the lady that owns the penthouse, and told me to just offer her 850 million why ya! 100 million discount. I said, ya that's great, but maybe her asking price of 950 should be 650, then how does my discount look?! I'm going to try to get some lists from realtors to see if I can gauge the market. I'm thinking a penthouse for 800 million + 200 million in furnishing, facelift, etc. Is a decent price for what I'd be getting. I think 3 months a year of rental could be about 12 k USD, as the times I would be likely to rent coincide with the tourism high-seasons, here.

While people are making plans here's an idea: either solo or together:

Just buy a whole building with 40 or so apartments in it. Live in the top floor penthouse and rent out the other units with gap days in between when they are empty. Then bring the girls back to the other apartments when those aren't being rented. And let the chicas think you are renting the apartment you session in while you secretly live on another floor in the place you own. If oyu see a chica more than once-in different apartments-just tell her there was a problem so the owners moved you (technically, not a lie: the problem is you don't trust hookers and you are the owner-so, you moved you).

You can rig the elevator to not even show access or that there even is the secret floor you actually live on.

You can then hire your own security to take care of things and protect you.

The girls who figure out something is up would have to follow you outside the property to do something to you.

This can happen anyway.

You can make a ton of money managing the rental units in your building.

One day you can sell the building for a huge profit.

Call your building the Gringo Hotel. Rent some apartments on the even # floors to hot sexy girls who get paid to play and rent the odd numbered floors out to BMs and gringos. -Put a bar on the bottom floor. And build the Mansion on steroids but done right with the girls living on site, the guys on site, and you have a secret floor nobody knows about. Just go all the way!

[SlapShot10]

I'm absolutely thinking about buying a penthouse in Provenza, the main concern for me is long term security. I don't want to have a permanent place in Medellin where all the girls can definitively find me. Every year, I will have to retire a good amount of 21 year-olds who turn 22, if they knew where I permanently live, then it create a whole host of issues. What's your thought on that? ... All very valid points, I'm thinking about the same thing. I will most likely be renting and moving around for awhile. I don't want to start buying properties in Medellin until I figure out how to handle retired chicas, regardless how attractive the offer is.

SJobs, I didn't really consider this. There are two views: 1) the portero / security gives you a nice layer of protection, or 2) no portero is stopping some chica and 3 sicarios from getting by him to come ransack your place, rough you up, or worse. I've never used a love motel in Medellin, but that could be in the cards if I were to buy a place, here. It's a catch-22. You'd want to lure some hotties to your nice penthouse, but you've got to be careful about potentially untrustworthy people knowing too much about you. Imagine how easy it would be for a girl to make a long-term play, become tight with you, get a spare key made somehow, you're following each other on social media, she knows when you're out of the country, and you come back to an empty apartment. Of course, that would be much better than another scenario of you being in the penthouse when they arrive. This won't scare me away, but it does help me take a different view in an attempt to be as safe as possible.

Not a bad time to be putting in a lowball offer.

My contractor guy talked to the lady that owns the penthouse, and told me to just offer her 850 million why ya! 100 million discount. I said, ya that's great, but maybe her asking price of 950 should be 650, then how does my discount look?! I'm going to try to get some lists from realtors to see if I can gauge the market. I'm thinking a penthouse for 800 million + 200 million in furnishing, facelift, etc. Is a decent price for what I'd be getting. I think 3 months a year of rental could be about 12 k USD, as the times I would be likely to rent coincide with the tourism high-seasons, here.

Has anyone obtained a Resident Visa by way of purchasing real estate?

There must be a reason if all local men, including single, bring their lovers and paid girlfriends to short-time hotels and never at home. Right?

This is a veteran point.

Had a rather nice encounter here. They display the girls on the 3rd floor but it seems they occupy the whole building. The lineup was about 14 girls with about 4 standouts. I chose Jimena. A 6'11" venny mulato beauty with shoulder length hair. The sheer enthusiasm, friendly attitude and sexual prowess blew me away. The charge is 60 k for an hour but I had to tip her extra for an outstanding performance.

The Peso / Inch cost here is fantastic!

[Surfer500]

International flights to Colombia can not be more than 3 hrs for now. Miami to Colombia is about 3 hours

If this is true it bodes well for American, Spirit, and COPA to Medellin.

[Nounce]

This is a Facebook link requiring access to a private group. Would you care to summarize what it says? Thanks.

International flights to Colombia can not be more than 3 hrs for now. Miami to Colombia is about 3 hours

[Osteoknot]

No guesses, no predictions, no pre-COVID past experiences. Has anyone here with an American passport gotten on a jet in Miami or Fort Lauderdale, and gotten off the jet in Medellin without any problems since the crisis began? Thanks.

[MMHikeus]

Did you just discover this phenomenon? Most girls don't look as good without makeup, and especially when it's a photo. In person, frequently the difference isn't as stark. But photos can be cruel and capture things you don't notice when you're in person.

After boning hundreds of pros in the last 20+ years (and 100's of non-pros in the preceding 20 years), I have concluded there's no correlation between looks and performance. Some chicas are just beasts in the bedroom and some are just dead fish. That said, pros in Colombia are usually on point. Pros in Brasil are even more on point.

Back to the fooled-by-photos/make-up thing. To me the biggest thing a chica can do to cover up undesirable qualities is what she has over her lower abdomen. It's always a let down to be with a hot-looking girl and then you pull down her pants to uncover really ugly baby damage. That's the great thing about the FKKs where you see them walking around completely naked.

I expect some difference without makeup, but this one time, the change was waay too much.

About the tummy baby damage, I think some of it is due to the see-section delivery. In USA, the surgical line is parallel to the ground, runs under the fold or in the crease of the tummy. In Mexico and Colombia, they seem cut vertically from the navel to the top of the mound of venus. That leaves a very visible scar.

Also, some girls are naturally shy about their abdomen area. I was with a girl who had a banging body with fantastic tits and ass. Probably one of the most perfect pairs of naturals I have seen. She has a very slight bulge in her lower abdomen. She would never get completely naked for me. She would always cover her her abdomen with a towel etc. Thinking of her, she has one of the best BJ skills, she would literally suck me dry multiple times till I can't take it. Also, once she is turned on she gets a bit rough and starts deep kissing and biting my lip etc. God, I miss her. Her number went dark during the shutdown. Hopefully, I will reconnect with her.

Anyway, I have to make do with memories till I can get back to the land of these dreams LOL.

[MMHikeus]

Yes, all of my life. I began to develop my "x-ray vision " for make-up as an early adult. Its crucial in my opinion. Gaining experience seeing individual women, of different ethnicities and skin types, with and without make -up will really build your analysis skills. Furthermore, their trickery is magnified greatly in the realm of photos and video. The most beautiful women are alluring without make-up. When you see a woman in a lot of make-up, your first question is "what is she hiding, and why?" proceed with suspicion from there. Sometimes its just insecurity, often more than that though.

A woman looking quite different without make-up should never be a surprise.. "expect the expected"

Why are so many strip clubs so damned dimly lit? Well, I think you know the answer.

Now, don't get me started on the geometric illusions of tall shoes/heels. I'll just say this, if you find a girl who looks hot in very flat shoes... strongly consider keeping her.

I understand that there is a bit of difference with and without makeup. I have overnighted with girls and seen them without makeup, and few blemishes of the skin tone etc. Don't bother me. The chick I am talking about, really jarred me because, she really has a banging body with the most firm ass and tits, and a flat tummy. Her face without makeup is without eyebrows or eyelashes, her nose bridge is much broader and the cheekbones and not as defined. The shape of the eyes is totally different. That sum total made her look fugly. Now, seeing her again with makeup, I can see how she is able to change her features.

As for as the shoes, I think they wear the heals to make their ass and calf muscles look more toned.

[Mr Enternational]

A woman looking quite different without make-up should never be a surprise.. "expect the expected"

Why are so many strip clubs so damned dimly lit? Well, I think you know the answer.

Now, don't get me started on the geometric illusions of tall shoes/heels. I'll just say this, if you find a girl who looks hot in very flat shoes... strongly consider keeping her.

I don't even allow women to come over with make-up on. And if they do then I have a gang of make-up wipes and send them to the bathroom to take it off. I like a natural looking woman. A couple of board members I know are the complete opposite. They get upset if a woman shows up not looking like she is headed to an awards show.

Don't get me started on those damn shoes. I do not understand the purpose of them. Those shits look so goofy to me. I will never pick a chick that has those shoes on so that automatically extremely narrows the pool for me when I am at a fuck club.