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  1. #40402
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Actually the waiters in the USA generally don't collect a basic monthly salary.
    They may make a couple dollars an hour plus tips.
    This is even worse and hard to understand or accept for anyone coming from outside USA. You are admitting openly that in the "American System", waiters are not paid by the employer, but by the customer, who after having paid the (generally expensive) bill to the restaurant, is still charged additionally to compensate the waiter. If a salary is essentially made of tips, what taxes are paid? Where is the social security, retirement saving, health assistance? In Europe we call it "black work"!

    I understand all this is 100 km (sorry miles) out of topic of ISG, so I will refrain to comment further, but I know you know what I am thinking.

  2. #40401
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Well there's something that has been confirmed by several members. Repeat customers that keep going back to the same girl usually get the best prices. Some people even call them grandfather rates. It's kind of like buying in bulk or An employee generating business for a company. It also helps to have a business friendship and emotional connection to the girl. But as always it remains a client provider relationship.
    I definitely agree. Repeat business will always allow flexibility on price and service.

    The girl feels more comfortable with you so it's only natural.

    I rarely repeat unless I am desperate to get one off and no one is available.

  3. #40400
    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    They are not prepagos. They are sugar babies. $$$ does not matter to them. You only have to show it to get their attention.
    The whole purpose of a sugar relationship is financial gains for the girl and companionship (sexual or otherwise) on call for the man. So to show it and not give it is deception. And this is ok how?

    To say money does not matter to these girls is absolutely not true. Do you guys think they're having sex with you cause they find you irresistible.

    If a woman sells her body she is doing it only for the $$ And she will go where the $$$ is. Simple as that.

    Sugaring for a female is all about $$ and gains. Gifts money food etc.

  4. #40399
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    We European always feel this US 15%-20% gratuity thing a real extortion every time we go to USA. If the bill for my table dinner is $500, why the heck should we give $100 to the waiter?? At the end of the night, the waiters collect a basic monthly salary. Every night. Hard to accept this.
    Actually the waiters in the USA generally don't collect a basic monthly salary.

    They may make a couple dollars an hour plus tips.

  5. #40398
    Quote Originally Posted by ILuvThePussy  [View Original Post]
    I learned my lessons with TLNs. They are incredibly boring. We fucked / fooled around for two hours. I'm satisfied already. So we just lay around on our phones. I go to sleep and we fuck again in the morning which I am not in to because I like to take my mornings slow. I payed 300 mil for that. Never again. I don't speak spanish so I can't really converse with them and even if I could I don't think the conversations would be that entertaining. I'm even questioning my 2 hours deal because I leche twice in an hour and I just tell them to leave. I think I'm going to go with "150 mil mas taxi por dos leches" from now on.
    Me too, but I'm not happy with the basic service. And for 150 they usually don't kiss properly or they don't suck natural.

  6. #40397

    My small contribution

    OK guys,

    This is my first contribution to the forum. I have been in Medellin for a few days, since Sunday, we may say.

    So far I have been with a few girls. Today I went to Plaza Botero at about 6 PM. I spoke with one Colombian girl, very attractive, model figure, and then another young black girl passed by and I decided to bring them both home. They accepted 150 k COP for two hours 75+75, and they agreed to kiss. One she ate my ass, when I was fucking the other. But, when I have seen them naked, well, what a huge disappointment. Both have kids. One is 18 and she has a 2 years old kid. Her belly was the belly of an old woman, I mean old, really old. And the other one, the tits were like drained. Fuckin hell, why people do still do children in 2020? We are 7 billions, there is no fuckin need to make children! Anyway, these girls don't even have hot water. When they showered, the black girl was so happy cause the hot water.

    I mean, these girls could ask 150 on prepagos, even 200, if just they were ok, but they are not anymore. How the background, the environment, and some stupid choice can turn your life in a shit.

    Anyway, I let them go after the first one, because the saggy tits of the white one, and the belly of the morena, were a huge turn off.

    The other night, after midnight, I went to visit a place called la Mayorista. Turn out I got busted by the police, who checked if I had drugs. They stopped the taxi, most likely because I was sitting in the front seat, since I was speaking with the driver about the place. When the police left us, we looked around a couple of times, then I contracted the price with a white 30 years old girl with fake and huge tits. I let the driver go and I spent 30 minutes with the girl. She was ok, but that's not what I'm looking for, really.

    I had few other girls, but only two are worth a mention. Two prepagos. The first one is a black Venezuelan girl. Great ass, all natural, amazing tits, small but with fantastic nipples. Sex was great. I think I paid 150 to my place, but I'm not sure, I don't remember. The second one instead asked me 250, I think I gave her 230 or something like that. She proposed me to be my novia for 10 days, but she asked 800 k / day, which I think is negotiable, maybe she would accept 600. But then I will have to pay dinner, lunch, it doesn't look a good idea. Maybe one day only. That night, it was early morning, I agreed to have a trio, but they blocked the girls at the reception, because the rules don't let you have more than one guest at the time. They also bribe you 100 k COP every time you bring a girl. For that reason I changed my AirBnb booking and I got (for less money) an amazing flat in Laureles, completely independent, where I can bring 4 girls if I want, and they can even stay over, since I have two bedrooms and two bathrooms. So, I ended up to choose one of the girls, and a Canadian guy, got the other. End up the other girl left, because the retarded didn't have any money. I almost got in a fight with this stupid Canadian.

    Anyway, this girl, wow, one of the best pair of tits I have ever seen and touched. Natural huge tits. And wow, she squirted. It was a great fuck. Only problem, she didn't suck natural. I'm sure if I book her again, maybe a couple of times, she might do it. Anyway, super hot 18 years old with amazing natural tits.

    I can't use Tinder, because I got banned, and when I tried to use the colombian number, I got banned again, immediately. They probably check the device ID. I have instead installed Badoo. I met a black girl, a freebie, but Jesus she was fat as fuck, plus she told me she had a boob surgery, to reduce the size because she had back pain. I just paid her a drink, I even brought her to my apartment, but I couldn't really fuck her. I could have but. And tomorrow I'm about to meet another one. Never spoken about money with these girls from Badoo. Potentially I can meet 2 others, one in particular looks gorgeous. How does it work with Tinder or Facebook, do you offer money or do they ask?

    So, I'm still new to the Colombian game, but I noticed all the prepagos, most of them at least, just offer a basic service for 130/150, which doesn't include french kiss, neither oral without. So for me, it's a pain, because I always need to negotiate, and most likely it's between 150 and 250. I have also noticed, many girls don't show their face on prepagos, and when you ask they are reluctant. Some completely refused, even when I said I'm a foreigner.

    Anyway, what I noticed is that I'm more about quality than quantity. I will stop these cheap fucks, and I will go only with top girls, because I can't see another pair of saggy tits. What a disappointment, these girls were so pretty. I will give a try for 2 days to Badoo, to see if I can fuck one of these young girls I'm in contact.

  7. #40396
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Well there's something that has been confirmed by several members. Repeat customers that keep going back to the same girl usually get the best prices. Some people even call them grandfather rates. It's kind of like buying in bulk or An employee generating business for a company. It also helps to have a business friendship and emotional connection to the girl. But as always it remains a client provider relationship.
    Frank,

    I love your enthusiasm for this thread. However, you must visit Colombia one day sir.

  8. #40395
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    If these girls are prepagos the $$$ is the only thing that matters.
    They are not prepagos. They are sugar babies. $$$ does not matter to them. You only have to show it to get their attention.

  9. #40394
    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    Well there's something that has been confirmed by several members. Repeat customers that keep going back to the same girl usually get the best prices. Some people even call them grandfather rates. It's kind of like buying in bulk or An employee generating business for a company. It also helps to have a business friendship and emotional connection to the girl. But as always it remains a client provider relationship.
    I agree 100%. You definitely have an advantage if you can stay for longer periods of time. It lets you build trust with the girls and that leads not only to better sessions but better deals on those sessions.

    I would love to be able to take a month or two away form work and get an apartment in Medellin. Sadly that's not possible for me at this time so I can only go for a week at a time, that's why I don't mind paying a little more to get the girls I want. Money I have, its time that I wish I had more of.

  10. #40393
    Well there's something that has been confirmed by several members. Repeat customers that keep going back to the same girl usually get the best prices. Some people even call them grandfather rates. It's kind of like buying in bulk or An employee generating business for a company. It also helps to have a business friendship and emotional connection to the girl. But as always it remains a client provider relationship.

  11. #40392
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    One more point, those living or staying there long term definitely have a leg up. Especially if they also treat the Chicas well. Think about it, From her point of view, would a 250 k one and done dude serve her needs better on a risk adjusted total value basis, or one that sessions with her 120 k every week for 8-12 weeks? If you don't think that matters to them you are not analyzing the situation well. Heck I know of one that goes to a guys place in envigado, cleans his apartment for a couple hours, makes him a lunch and then fucks him all for 120mil per visit. With an arrangement like that, who needs a wife 😂. I was surprised when she told me she had been doing that for last couple years.
    Girls will often come by later for less than the original agreed price if you explain it nicely, once they know and trust you. A bonus if they like fucking you. I have noticed zero correlation between price and performance, arguably to an extent it has been in reverse.
    Experience mongers definitively pay less, not just for mongers who stay longer but I think you are ignoring an important point. When everything is the same, how many Chicas will pick 120 over 250? I also don't think most Chicas thinks rationally or know how to manage money. Lower pay per meet also don't mean lower income.

  12. #40391
    Quote Originally Posted by Blakman  [View Original Post]
    Now sangnyc, guys who penny pinch about a few dollars are never bitter towards the girls. At least I can speak for myself. I understand I am offering way less so a rejection is expected. My thought process is I am the prize not you. If you want me you accept what I offer. Now I give it to you that sometimes a penny pincher can over do it at times and miss out. But again the attitude I am not paying what is over your worth. Here is the most humorous part. The free spenders similar to elvis, sjobs. Firmly assume that the wealth they proclaim can control these girls and will be at there beckoning. It is these guys that become bitter and call these girls putas. When they discover the wealth meant nothing to these girls as they still rather be with there non income colombian novios LOL.

    .
    If these girls are prepagos the $$$ is the only thing that matters.

    You're right they are going to go back to their broke Colombian novios in their ghetto barrios.

    I'm personally not looking to make an emotional connection with these girls. I'm only interested in doing dirty things to them.

    And every once in a while I see a girl I must have I'll pay whatever it takes as long as she agrees to my terms.

    The next day I wake up I don't feel regret or the need for anything more.

    We are mongering here, fucking for sport. Not looking for love.

  13. #40390
    Quote Originally Posted by GeneHickman  [View Original Post]
    The chicas are quite hostile with each other if they knew one accepted a lower rate, the FB ones often hold to their cartel rate. So for those arguing about info sharing and being generous, I think you are off base. Two board members who guide you well are Pollonegro in centro, and JJbee for the in apartment, Fb scene etc. I feel like many of the FB chicas have been to the mansion and get their rate from there. The mansion never seems to have issues finding willing chicas to hang around for those rates so clearly the demand supply dynamics are OK at that price point. Beyond that plenty subjectivity on either side.

    One more point, those living or staying there long term definitely have a leg up. Especially if they also treat the Chicas well. Think about it, From her point of view, would a 250 k one and done dude serve her needs better on a risk adjusted total value basis, or one that sessions with her 120 k every week for 8-12 weeks? If you don't think that matters to them you are not analyzing the situation well. Heck I know of one that goes to a guys place in envigado, cleans his apartment for a couple hours, makes him a lunch and then fucks him all for 120mil per visit. With an arrangement like that, who needs a wife 😂. I was surprised when she told me she had been doing that for last couple years.
    Girls will often come by later for less than the original agreed price if you explain it nicely, once they know and trust you. A bonus if they like fucking you. I have noticed zero correlation between price and performance, arguably to an extent it has been in reverse.
    But you're talking about a steady regular arrangement which is a different ball game.

    Obviously the guaranteed money and less risk factor takes into play.

    But how often do we see people insulting each other cause we go to places like Gustos or La Islas and pay top dollar to have a great night out. A lot of times guys are partying and too fucked up to even get it up but they'll pay 200-300 usd just to try LOL.

    But it's their choice to do so. I think there's too much BS about whose better who got the better deal and bitterness when guys overpay for whatever reason.

    I think the majority of the members on this board are here to gather info and tbh some people just love to trash others posts for the above mentioned reasons.

  14. #40389

    Good Advice Frank

    Quote Originally Posted by Frank11  [View Original Post]
    For reviews of the girls in Colombia try the local forum DonColombia With Google translate or get recommendations from friends. In other countries, I definitely would feel uncomfortable with the girl sleeping over unless she had positive reviews. Anybody else know any other COP local forums?
    Well I visited the DonColombia website per your advice, and it was an eye opener with girls advertising prices for one hour as low as 40 K and others offering anal for 80 K (not my cup of tea). The site is almost like Craigslist's used to be in the USA. Of course I couldn't get any of the pages translated by Google but understand enough Spanish that I could navigate it and use it if I elected to. This is a very viable option for those with solid Spanish skills, and illustrates how others could be paying like the locals versus other platforms used by foreigners. As far as sleep overs, regardless of the reviews on a girl, I would never do it unless I had some previous experience with her as others have mentioned.

  15. #40388
    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    You ever notice its the same bitter people that insult others when they over pay or spend too much?

    They don't offer a helpful message saying you should pay a certain amount but its always they're "fools" or "dumb".

    People who travel on a budget can still be generous but what's mind boggling is some of you are truly bitter towards women in general and its pretty obvious.

    I'm not going to call guys out but its hilarious some of you travel the world to get pussy and act like its an accomplishment that you paid less than others.

    The fact that some of you guys haggle over literally pennies and nickels is disturbing.

    They need the $$ more than you if you're willing to spend it on their bodies.

    And some guys say they talk to girls and make fun of guys who overpay and the girls call them fools?

    I guarantee you that girl would rather be with the fool than with your broke ass. This is all about money to them nothing more nothing less.

    Wake up guys! We all have different budgets and different levels of income. Stop being so fuckin bitter and lets just use this board for info.
    The chicas are quite hostile with each other if they knew one accepted a lower rate, the FB ones often hold to their cartel rate. So for those arguing about info sharing and being generous, I think you are off base. Two board members who guide you well are Pollonegro in centro, and JJbee for the in apartment, Fb scene etc. I feel like many of the FB chicas have been to the mansion and get their rate from there. The mansion never seems to have issues finding willing chicas to hang around for those rates so clearly the demand supply dynamics are OK at that price point. Beyond that plenty subjectivity on either side.

    One more point, those living or staying there long term definitely have a leg up. Especially if they also treat the Chicas well. Think about it, From her point of view, would a 250 k one and done dude serve her needs better on a risk adjusted total value basis, or one that sessions with her 120 k every week for 8-12 weeks? If you don't think that matters to them you are not analyzing the situation well. Heck I know of one that goes to a guys place in envigado, cleans his apartment for a couple hours, makes him a lunch and then fucks him all for 120mil per visit. With an arrangement like that, who needs a wife 😂. I was surprised when she told me she had been doing that for last couple years.
    Girls will often come by later for less than the original agreed price if you explain it nicely, once they know and trust you. A bonus if they like fucking you. I have noticed zero correlation between price and performance, arguably to an extent it has been in reverse.

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