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11-22-20 09:25 #12312
Posts: 1056No Vaccine for me
Under no circumstances will I take a c19 vaccine. If that means no more travel, so be it. Friends whose opinion I value are of the same mind. Others just March blindly along, like unthinking sheep. There are countless posts here on "the vaccine. " There is no silver bullet and posting uninformed messages on obscure web sites like this does not change it.
I sent messages to Thai hookers on various sites. Their replies are much more informed and relevant than repetitive, uninformed, syntax-free posts on "the vaccine".
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11-22-20 08:45 #12311
Posts: 2967Originally Posted by LittleBigMan [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by LittleBigMan [View Original Post]
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11-22-20 06:01 #12310
Posts: 3136Get it right and look it up yourself!
It is reported that Pfizer with German partner BioNTech, has made the first Emergency request to put out the Vaccine with the FDA, Moderna the second leader will be following suit. Both vaccines are rated effective 994% effective, the final review of data of testing started in July will be done by mid-December if approved the vaccine will be provided to the front line and senior home care facilities already authorized is CVS and Walgreens the USA And it will be free. Both companies have also applied to other countries like Canada, Australia, Britain, Japan, and the list is growing for their approval, I believe and more hopeful than any visa program Thailand government comes out with if successful to slow it down and application requested with Thailand is approved and Thailand like to follow and this is what they have been waiting for while coming with all these visa ideas to make it look like they are actually doing something? We might have something to celebrate about?
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11-22-20 05:39 #12309
Posts: 6362Personally if I am applying for an OA Visa or even traveling to Thailand I would be purchasing the Thai insurance approved to satisfy Immigration rules. After you're in then work around getting insurance from your home country. The last thing I would want is to think I had everything lined up only to be turned back at Immigration because an IO doesn't understand what exactly is required. You may be 100% certain you have met all the requirements but the wrong IO will make you purchase the next available flight home and once you get home you likely have to look for a place to rent as you have rented your house for a year. Health insurance is not a big ticket item in the the scheme of things. Why chance it?
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11-22-20 02:32 #12308
Posts: 3136Originally Posted by Bunky [View Original Post]
Can you imagine having insurance in the USA Being diagnosed with Lyme Disease and they tell you " oh it isn't covered " they would be doing the policyholder a favor $$ just like when I'm home I make sure to take public transit hoping it messes me over before I even get on my departure flight the City would be calling and telling me " don't leave we are sending you a check ".
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11-21-20 22:34 #12307
Posts: 516Originally Posted by GettingFedUp [View Original Post]
As Mr. Up cogently notes, the fact that COVID is not specifically mentioned in health insurance documents gives Thai consular officials an easy way to force visa applicants to buy insurance from a Thai company through the official online portal. Sounds like some determined applicants have been able to get their health insurer to supplement the standard documents with a written statement emphasizing that they are, in fact, covered if they come down with COVID while in Thailand. At that point, it seems to me, it's up to the consular officer to decide whether the COVID insurance requirement is met. Those officers who interpret the requirement in a way that protects the Thai health care system from sick falang who run up big bills they can't pay will probably call it good. Those officers who interpret the requirement in a way that lines the pockets of Thai insurance companies selling expensive single-purpose policies to rich falang will probably take a different view.
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11-21-20 19:54 #12306
Posts: 492That seems common sense but is not necessarily true. That's why I posted it. It's similar to asymptomatic spreading of disease. No symptoms but still able to spread covid.
Originally Posted by Rodwint2 [View Original Post]
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11-21-20 18:54 #12305
Posts: 336Duh?
Originally Posted by Horatio [View Original Post]
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11-21-20 07:58 #12304
Posts: 3136Originally Posted by GettingFedUp [View Original Post]
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11-21-20 04:57 #12303
Posts: 178Devil's in the details
Originally Posted by Bunky [View Original Post]
The issue, from what I have gathered, is that a lot of health insurance policies may cover Covid19 as it is not excluded but unless the policy specifically states that Covid19 is covered to the level of $100 k or more this may not be acceptable to the consular officials. How many health insurers have updated their wordings to specifically state that the condition is covered?
I have heard anecdotal evidence of some officials accepting letters from insurers to confirm it is covered, others insisting if the policy itself does not specifically state the Covid19 cover exists they cannot accept this. This apparent discrepancy is even quoted as happening with two officials from the same Embassy.
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11-21-20 03:52 #12302
Posts: 1704Originally Posted by HorseTrader [View Original Post]
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11-21-20 00:44 #12301
Posts: 1704Originally Posted by Horatio [View Original Post]
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11-20-20 22:29 #12300
Posts: 492Vaccines
It is possible that the vaccine might prevent us from getting sick from covid but still allow us to spread the disease. If that is the case Thailand would need to be widely vaccinated across country before they open up. Guy on rogan said about effects of vaccine.
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11-20-20 20:16 #12299
Posts: 516Health Insurance Requirement for O-A Retirement Visa
Originally Posted by GettingFedUp [View Original Post]
Obviously, everybody's health insurance is different. But I checked my policy for so-called "overseas coverage" and it does cover medical care (including hospitalization) when I am outside the United States. By way of contrast, Medicare generally does *not* cover seniors who require medical care outside the United States. Obviously that's just one data point. And I admit that I have excellent health insurance through and employee group plan.
It doesn't surprise me that some Thai consular officials cast a gimlet eye upon health insurance that wasn't purchased through the government-approved portal. That would require them to interpret the coverage and make a decision on whether it met the COVID coverage rule. Far easier to verify the visa applicant purchased coverage through the portal. And, I might add, far more profitable for the Thai insurance companies.
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11-20-20 08:29 #12298
Posts: 178US list seems the same
Banana Boi,
The list on the Royal Thai Embassy DC (https://thaiembdc.org/covid-19inthailand/) appears to be the same.
They also provide a list of repatriation flights and allowable flights operating on a "semi-commercial" basis (their phrase, whatever it means), although the latter would probably mean connecting either in Europe or the Middle East (Qatar, Abu Dhabi, Dubai). Be careful on connections. I think if you're anything more than in transit in places like London you will be required to self-isolate for 14 days whilst there.
One additional thing - there is some uncertainty as to whether the 60 day tourist visa can be "flipped" onto another visa type once in-country. As so often there are agents trying to say that they can do it (for a hefty fee) but whether this is strictly kosher or involves a brown envelope and the back door of the immigration office is open to debate.
All other requirements (pre-flight rt-PCR test, fit-to-fly cert, $100k insurance and 14 day quarantine remain in place). I have read of people having difficulty with their existing Health Insurance including Covid19 cover but it not being accepted by Embassies. There is a Thai General Insurance Association portal where the cover is on offer (https://covid19.tgia.org/).