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  1. #2297
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    I am falsely claiming Biden opened the borders. Are you crazy? Are you blaming Trump? Why is there a crises at the border after 2 months of Biden reversing all Trump and congress border laws by executive order not by congress. I ask then who is telling Biden to make those executive orders so we know who to blame. WHO?
    The border is not open.

    You are talking silly.

  2. #2296
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    It is obvious you know nothing about these industries so it is impossible to have a legit discussion with you. This is a typical democrat claiming the lands are his not all the American peoples. You are a joke.
    You are clearly also familiar with the ad hominem rhetorical fallacy.

  3. #2295
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    You are correct. Congress only passed one thing but Biden 47 Executive Orders in the first 30 days is what did all the damage to business.
    Name one impact other than Keystone?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Biden wants to give citizenship to all the illegals. How is fining business going to work if all the unskilled labor become citizens. These people will work for cash for far less than citizens currently here. The government is never going to fine the business for hiring illegals. They are going to get stimulus money and government benefits. Lots of these illegals will be selling drugs on the street. Obviously you support open borders because Biden campaigned on that. You are fine with drugs coming in and human trafficking. You support non citizens taking jobs from Americans. I have not seen one of you socialists disagree with Biden administration on this. This hurts the poor in USA the most because skilled labor doesn't have to compete against the current illegals.
    No Biden wants to provide these people with a path to citizenship. The are criteria to be applied so that undesirables do not qualify. These people are already in the country many actually providing a benefit to the economy working in jobs that americans will not do. The Government will not implement fines because too many people and businesses profit from this cheap labour. Not really much different to modern day slavery! Of course you prefer taxpayer dollars to go to further victimizing these people rather than punishing the perpetrators and using those funds to pay the policing. They do not qualify for stimulus cheques. What percentage of street drug dealers are illegals? Give us an actual number? The borders are not open to illegal immigrants. Yes you are finally getting it that the American people voted for Biden to carry out his campaign promises. These people are not competing against skilled labour they are doing jobs that Americans will not do. Many business get in seasonal workers on visas to do jobs that would otherwise not be filled. This is all simple supply and demand stuff, I'm surprised that such an accomplished businessman such as yourself doesn't understand this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Name one place that socialized insurance works. Why do you think so many Canadians come to USA for their medical needs.
    It works well in the UK, my daughters live there and are very happy with it, my sister and her family live in Canada and they are happy with it, so while you say they are not happy with it once again its just your opinion not a fact. My son lives in Australia, he likes the system there. Most of Europe has similar systems that they are satisfied with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Everyone can believe what they want but I believe in protecting our borders and citizens like almost every other country in the world. Obviously democrats disagree. Your choice.

    I believe in free enterprise system not free stuff from the government that us working people pay for. Obviously democrats disagree.

    I believe free speech is for everyone not just democrats. Obviously democrats disagree.

    The working people in USA deserve better. Unfortunately the democrats disagree.

    There is a crisis on the south border now. Less than 2 months after Biden took office. Who is to blame? Ask the democrats and they will all say Trump. What a joke.
    You say all this stuff but but you behave the opposite. The majority (remember that democracy thingy you don't like) voted in Democrats. You are obviously aggrieved that the people who you like are not in power. If you believed in democracy then you would support the will of the people. If you believed in democracy you would be speaking up about the gerrymandering and voter suppression being carried out by the Republicans. Maybe if Republicans did a bit more to help the people than line their own pockets they would not be in opposition.

  4. #2294

    Who opened the border of Biden didn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by ScatManDoo  [View Original Post]
    Before Obamacare many people purchased health insurance that was structured to give the sale-pitch perception of providing the funding for heath care needs when in reality they provided poor coverage.

    Many people who wound up with serious disease, like cancer, failed to get adequate care due to inadequate policy limits.

    This is just a lie falsely claiming that President Biden opened up the borders.

    Hunh?

    More jibberish Canada?

    Thank god. Who needs preventable municipal and state bankruptcies?
    I am falsely claiming Biden opened the borders. Are you crazy? Are you blaming Trump? Why is there a crises at the border after 2 months of Biden reversing all Trump and congress border laws by executive order not by congress. I ask then who is telling Biden to make those executive orders so we know who to blame. WHO?

  5. #2293

    Obvious

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    Have you heard of the "strawman" fallacy?

    My point was that for all your hysteria about oil, gas, mining, etc, they still seem to be operating. One of the things I hope the Biden administration will regulate more closely are the extractive industries on public lands. Trump enabled his cronies to profit off the extraction of oil, gas, coal, lead, timber from my land. He let them drill, strip mine, clear cut from my land. They have drilled, cut down and extracted more than their share. The rest is ours and we want it left there.
    It is obvious you know nothing about these industries so it is impossible to have a legit discussion with you. This is a typical democrat claiming the lands are his not all the American peoples. You are a joke.

  6. #2292

    You are correct

    Quote Originally Posted by GDreams  [View Original Post]
    You brought up Trump. I just responded. If you don't like it stop talking about him.

    Biden has been in power less than 2 months. 1 piece of legislation has passed the Senate, not even landed on Biden's desk so how could he have killed any industry? You are correct, health costs are too high. There are many examples around the world where good healthcare is delivered to all the people for a much lower cost. Pretty much all leading nations have a mix of public and private options that deliver much better outcomes. The illegal immigrant problem is simple to solve, I have raised it before, put punitive fines on people and company executives that employ illegals. If the potential cost of those fines or even jail sentences doesn't deter them being employed then nothing will. Pump prices? What has that to do with Biden? They are market rates.

    I'm still waiting for you to spell out how implementing the policies that you campaigned on is anything but democracy? Who was it that attempted a coup on Jan 6th trying to overturn the legitimate election results?
    You are correct. Congress only passed one thing but Biden 47 Executive Orders in the first 30 days is what did all the damage to business.

    Biden wants to give citizenship to all the illegals. How is fining business going to work if all the unskilled labor become citizens. These people will work for cash for far less than citizens currently here. The government is never going to fine the business for hiring illegals. They are going to get stimulus money and government benefits. Lots of these illegals will be selling drugs on the street. Obviously you support open borders because Biden campaigned on that. You are fine with drugs coming in and human trafficking. You support non citizens taking jobs from Americans. I have not seen one of you socialists disagree with Biden administration on this. This hurts the poor in USA the most because skilled labor doesn't have to compete against the current illegals.

    Name one place that socialized insurance works. Why do you think so many Canadians come to USA for their medical needs.

    Everyone can believe what they want but I believe in protecting our borders and citizens like almost every other country in the world. Obviously democrats disagree. Your choice.

    I believe in free enterprise system not free stuff from the government that us working people pay for. Obviously democrats disagree.

    I believe free speech is for everyone not just democrats. Obviously democrats disagree.

    The working people in USA deserve better. Unfortunately the democrats disagree.

    There is a crisis on the south border now. Less than 2 months after Biden took office. Who is to blame? Ask the democrats and they will all say Trump. What a joke.

  7. #2291

    ???

    Why arguing Biden when, like W. Bush, he doesn't and will never run the show.

    The country went through a real Coup, live, and applauded.

    The DNC mafia took over, brace for war.

  8. #2290

    Obamacare

    It's incredible that people here can actually defend obamacare. Anybody that's supposedly been to Latin America or Asia among other places ought to know you can just walk into a clinic (a doctor's office) and get the care you need on the spot for less than the cost of a copay in the Greatest Country in the World. I got an x-ray in Rio last winter for $14. Compare that to the aggravation you have to go thru in The Geatest Country in the World.

  9. #2289
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    ...
    Do you really believe we need to open our borders to drug smugglers and human traffickers?...
    Have you heard of the "strawman" fallacy?

    My point was that for all your hysteria about oil, gas, mining, etc, they still seem to be operating. One of the things I hope the Biden administration will regulate more closely are the extractive industries on public lands. Trump enabled his cronies to profit off the extraction of oil, gas, coal, lead, timber from my land. He let them drill, strip mine, clear cut from my land. They have drilled, cut down and extracted more than their share. The rest is ours and we want it left there.

  10. #2288

    After NAFTA, the Shafta

    North American Trade Agreement, 1994, signed by USA (George Bush) Canada, and Mexico. After Nafta Reboot under the former social media influencer auto companies raised salaries to conform to the $14 minimum wage, passing costs ($470-$2,000 per vehicle) to US consumers. Drugs in major quantities cross over by truck, ship, and airplane, not in backpacks of desperate people fleeing violence and famine in Hondouras, El Salvador, Guatemala dot dot dot. Centuries of coups and dirty tricks fomented by the USA has led to this ongoing tragedy. Weapons were airlifted from Mina, Arkansas (Bill Clinton, Governor) to the Contras In Honduras. Cocaine returned in the planes to be distributed through the US southwest.

    I suggest reading the US Constitution before positing erroneous information about democracy.

  11. #2287
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Why do you guys keep talking about Trump. We are disgusted about Biden and his socialists party killing the industry in USA. Everyone of my employees made a great wage and had health insurance. Why can't people just work and buy private insurance? Why does the government need to try to employ everyone and supply health insurance. Insurance was high but sky rocketed after the government got involved with Obama Care. If democrats really care about the citizens of USA they wouldn't open up the borders to bring cheap unskilled labor to take away jobs from Americans. The stimulus plan would give poor families in USA more money instead of giving it to illegals. In less than 2 months Biden has killed several domestic industries, added regulations to hurt small business, increased pump prices, created a crises at the border, bailed out poorly run democratic states and all these things hurt the poorest people in USA. And obviously you agree with this and when confronted with the facts you just start talking about Trump and ignore mess we are in.
    You brought up Trump. I just responded. If you don't like it stop talking about him.

    Biden has been in power less than 2 months. 1 piece of legislation has passed the Senate, not even landed on Biden's desk so how could he have killed any industry? You are correct, health costs are too high. There are many examples around the world where good healthcare is delivered to all the people for a much lower cost. Pretty much all leading nations have a mix of public and private options that deliver much better outcomes. The illegal immigrant problem is simple to solve, I have raised it before, put punitive fines on people and company executives that employ illegals. If the potential cost of those fines or even jail sentences doesn't deter them being employed then nothing will. Pump prices? What has that to do with Biden? They are market rates.

    I'm still waiting for you to spell out how implementing the policies that you campaigned on is anything but democracy? Who was it that attempted a coup on Jan 6th trying to overturn the legitimate election results?

  12. #2286

    Which ones?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    Which ones?
    Which industry? Oil industry, mining industry, manufacturing industry, trucking industry plus all the small business that supports these.

    Which border? Mexico border to allow Mexican and South American cheap, unskilled labor to take jobs away from Americans and to further lower wages for Americans.

    Do you really believe thousands of cheap unskilled labor coming in from South America helps Americans and American jobs?

    Do you really believe we need to open our borders to drug smugglers and human traffickers?

    Do you really believe this helps the poor in USA?

    The majority of these people will be on some sort of government assistance immediately. Do you really believe this helps our citizens get cheaper health insurance and out of poverty?

  13. #2285
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    T...In less than 2 months Biden has killed several domestic industries...
    Which ones?

  14. #2284
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    Why can't people just work and buy private insurance?
    Before Obamacare many people purchased health insurance that was structured to give the sale-pitch perception of providing the funding for heath care needs when in reality they provided poor coverage.

    Many people who wound up with serious disease, like cancer, failed to get adequate care due to inadequate policy limits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    If democrats really care about the citizens of USA they wouldn't open up the borders to bring cheap unskilled labor to take away jobs from Americans.
    This is just a lie falsely claiming that President Biden opened up the borders.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    The stimulus plan would give poor families in USA more money instead of giving it to illegals..
    Hunh?

    More jibberish Canada?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    bailed out poorly run democratic states.
    Thank god. Who needs preventable municipal and state bankruptcies?

  15. #2283

    Why do you keep talking about Trump when we are discussing Biden mess

    Trump lost the presidency, senate and house so not only was he not a saint he was a huge loser. Democrats are implementing the policies that they campaigned on. Democracy in action. All you so called grievances are just your right wing whining about religious freedom, the fact your capitalist model has automated or exported your jobs out of existence, the fact that you claim to be a successful businessman but can't support normal people getting a living wage, access to basic healthcare, freedom not to be murdered by police, freedom to have control of their own bodies.

    I married a Ukrainian, lived there for 3 years, lived in Kazakhstan for 1 year, Mongolia for 5 years and visited China at least 30 times so I know a bit about these countries.

    Why do you guys keep talking about Trump. We are disgusted about Biden and his socialists party killing the industry in USA. Everyone of my employees made a great wage and had health insurance. Why can't people just work and buy private insurance? Why does the government need to try to employ everyone and supply health insurance. Insurance was high but sky rocketed after the government got involved with Obama Care. If democrats really care about the citizens of USA they wouldn't open up the borders to bring cheap unskilled labor to take away jobs from Americans. The stimulus plan would give poor families in USA more money instead of giving it to illegals. In less than 2 months Biden has killed several domestic industries, added regulations to hurt small business, increased pump prices, created a crises at the border, bailed out poorly run democratic states and all these things hurt the poorest people in USA. And obviously you agree with this and when confronted with the facts you just start talking about Trump and ignore mess we are in.

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