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  1. #2801
    Quote Originally Posted by Paulie97  [View Original Post]
    The US is both a representative democracy and a constitutional republic.These elected officials you speak of are voted in democratically at state and local levels. It's also true that we don't have a direct democracy, That's even though voter referendums exist from time to time on state and local ballots. It's simply asinine to say we aren't a democratic country as a representative democracy is a form of
    You can naively (or asininely) presume the USA is a democracy because, yes, the citizenry gets to vote for candidates to become officeholders representing 'the people' in their district, or State.

    Now, for reality: candidates to run for office are selected and funded by either of the two parties. Does anyone want to pretend this is done democratically? For just one recent example, there's the Dem Presidential primaries of 2020. Primary rules designed to exclude third party candidates are another feature of democracy American-style. Too many other examples. The system is (currently) working to prevent democracy, while maintaining the pretense. Try to see things for what they are.

  2. #2800

    1903

    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing4987  [View Original Post]
    I suggest looking at Wikipedia for info and stats about the "auto industry in Mexico"from 1903 to the present. Maybe the experts here can explain why manufacturing and other industries changed over the years, with automation, high tech, and multinationals following cheap labor. The shit does not hit the fan in a mere 100 days. Does Tim Scott and the Tea Party have a solution to our nation's persistent problems?
    Why is it when someone points out how Biden policies are hurting American business and a company like GM announces they are going to spend $1 billion dollars in Mexico rather than USA for their new electric car that you start referencing 1903 auto industry. Biden isn't that old but I guess he acts like it. More industry will move out of USA for taxes and stupid regulations not high labor. Biden regulations and taxes will drive out industry like New York high taxes are driving out people. Bigger government and more government regulations will not attract investment in USA. I realize most of you don't have a business and you rely on government subsistence but USA needs large companies to employ thousands. USA can't survive if 50% of their population is on welfare or unemployment. I know the true socialists think that only the 1% need to work and pay taxes and the rest of the people either work for the government or are on welfare or unemployment.

  3. #2799

    Real News

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    Why do Republicans now have this existential dread of Biden, Kamala, AOC, paid sick leave, Social Security, etc? In the last 30 years, there have been great advances understanding how the amygdala modulates the fear response in humans. Fox "News" (and OAN, etc) compell their viewers attention by stimulating this response, which is by careful design. Right wing institutions, e. G. , the Koch Foundation, ALEC, etc, believe in preserving existing social hierarchies and wealth, a return to aristocracy and religion, small government, no taxes, and a distrust of science and rationalism. Clearly, these anti egalitarian ideas are not positive for the majority of people.

    So, in a democratic country, how do they get the people to vote against their self interest? Fox News exists to stimulate fear (ask why Hannity, Carlson, Pirro, etc shout so much). When the amygdala is active, rational thought is suppressed and people are (even more) susceptible to slogans, simplistic thought, and authoritarian rule. Yes, in fact there is a right wing conspiracy to keep the masses afraid and in thrall -- it's run through Fox.

    If you're a Fox viewer, and you doubt this, here's an experiment you can try on yourself: turn off Fox for a week and then measure your blood pressure.
    If you want to know the news you either watch Fox News or stop for a week. No one watched CNN or MSNBC to hear real news. They listen to it to get all the liberal high five fake news. Obviously majority of the people trust Fox News more than the other based on the ratings over the last 10 years. I suppose you don't believe in the ratings either because they don't suit you. Fox states the facts and sometimes republicans get upset at their news. Fox News is only news station to report a crises on the border. Even the democrat senators on the border states are going to Biden to address the crises but you and the other socialists can't even acknowledge the issue. Keep watching your fake news and keep posting how great Biden and Harris are. Democratic states homeless problems, defund police, riots, welfare, racism, unemployment all seem fine to you socialists but Republicans don't like these things. Keep living in LaLa land your kids and grandkids will be the one suffering in the future.

  4. #2798

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    What democratic country are you speaking of? The USA is a constitutional republic. American citizens do not make the laws. They only vote for the people that will make the laws. So they in effect would be voting for the PEOPLE that would make laws against their self-interest. For example the gun laws. You don't need to be able to protect yourself. Just have the threat wait on the police to get there. No thanks. I would rather take responsibility for my own protection.
    Most of your posts are excellent and useful but this one misses the mark. What you have going is a called a false dichotomy, which can also be called a black and white thinking error or false dilemma.

    https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/.../False-Dilemma

    The US is both a representative democracy and a constitutional republic. The former term was used by the framers, including Adams and Jefferson. These elected officials you speak of are voted in democratically at state and local levels. It's true that we have this archaic (another subject) electoral college going at the national level, but states do choose the electors based on popular votes. It's also true that we don't have a direct democracy, but who does? The only way to achieve that would be to have every citizen vote on every legislative bill which is hardly practical. That's even though voter referendums exist from time to time on state and local ballots. It's simply asinine to say we aren't a democratic country as a representative democracy is a form of democracy.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...-is-like-cash/

    As to gun laws, the context of the second amendment involves maintenance of state militias, which is largely made obsolete by national guards. That's in spite of these wingnut Alex Jones fans running around hiding from black helicopters. It is good news that violent felons and those with severe mental problems have no right to own grenades or sub machine guns, so there are limitations. We the people through our representatives decide what the limitations are going to be, as to certain weapons, background checks, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrEnternational  [View Original Post]
    Both sides stimulate fear. Do your own research instead of depending on networks to pick your meals for you and then spoon feed them to you.
    You need to take your own advice. You've obviously been embracing views from some biased and errant sources. See above.

  5. #2797
    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    It makes no difference to Canada what you post. If the source isn't Fox "News", trump, OANN etc. It is all BS to him. He has made it quite clear that he believes that all Democrats are ignorant, socialists and racists and only Republicans have the ability to think and aren't racist.
    People are racist and prejudice. Welcome to the real world. A person does not have to belong to a particular political party or group to have these ideas. Brazil, Thailand, India, Korea do not have Democratic or Republican parties, but they still have racist people. It is not going anywhere no matter how much you preach against it; the same as "terrorism".

    There is always going to be mfs willing to whip some ass over something they believe in. If it is your ass they are tearing in to then you label them a terrorist. If it is somebody else's ass that you are tearing in to then you label yourself a freedom fighter.

  6. #2796

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing4987  [View Original Post]
    Does Tim Scott and the Tea Party have a solution to our nation's persistent problems?
    Since Uncle Tim is brought up again I'll take the time to remind everyone the unprecedented parade of black speakers put on at last year's RNC. The overarching theme was clear, "Hey everybody, Trump isn't as racist. " Yea right, very tough sell that failed.

  7. #2795
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    So, in a democratic country, how do they get the people to vote against their self interest?
    What democratic country are you speaking of? The USA is a constitutional republic. American citizens do not make the laws. They only vote for the people that will make the laws. So they in effect would be voting for the PEOPLE that would make laws against their self-interest. For example the gun laws. You don't need to be able to protect yourself. Just have the threat wait on the police to get there. No thanks. I would rather take responsibility for my own protection.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnClayton  [View Original Post]
    Fox News exists to stimulate fear
    Both sides stimulate fear. Do your own research instead of depending on networks to pick your meals for you and then spoon feed them to you.

  8. #2794
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    ... There is a reason why Fox News is the most watched news and fake news CNN rating are in the tank...
    Why do Republicans now have this existential dread of Biden, Kamala, AOC, paid sick leave, Social Security, etc? In the last 30 years, there have been great advances understanding how the amygdala modulates the fear response in humans. Fox "News" (and OAN, etc) compell their viewers attention by stimulating this response, which is by careful design. Right wing institutions, e. G. , the Koch Foundation, ALEC, etc, believe in preserving existing social hierarchies and wealth, a return to aristocracy and religion, small government, no taxes, and a distrust of science and rationalism. Clearly, these anti egalitarian ideas are not positive for the majority of people.

    So, in a democratic country, how do they get the people to vote against their self interest? Fox News exists to stimulate fear (ask why Hannity, Carlson, Pirro, etc shout so much). When the amygdala is active, rational thought is suppressed and people are (even more) susceptible to slogans, simplistic thought, and authoritarian rule. Yes, in fact there is a right wing conspiracy to keep the masses afraid and in thrall -- it's run through Fox.

    If you're a Fox viewer, and you doubt this, here's an experiment you can try on yourself: turn off Fox for a week and then measure your blood pressure.

  9. #2793
    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    ... There is a reason why Fox News is the most watched news and fake news CNN rating are in the tank...
    Why do Republicans now have this existential dread of Biden, Kamala, AOC, paid sick leave, etc? In the last 30 years, there have been great advances understanding how the amygdala modulates the fear response in humans. Fox "News" (and OAN, etc) compell their viewers attention by stimulating this response, which is by careful design. Right wing institutions, e. G. , the Koch Foundation, ALEC, etc, believe in preserving existing social hierarchies and wealth, a return to aristocracy and religion, small government, no taxes, and a distrust of science and rationalism. Clearly, these anti egalitarian ideas are not positive for the majority of people.

    So, in a democratic country, how do they get the people to vote against their self interest? Fox News exists to stimulate fear (ask why Hannity, Carlson, Pirro, etc shout so much). When the amygdala is active, rational thought is suppressed and people are (even more) susceptible to slogans, simplistic thought, and authoritarian rule. Yes, in fact there is a right wing conspiracy to keep the masses afraid and in thrall -- it's run through Fox.

    If you're a Fox viewer, and you doubt this, here's an experiment you can try on yourself: turn off Fox for a week and then measure your blood pressure.

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  12. #2790

    Finally you admit who you are

    Quote Originally Posted by PVMonger  [View Original Post]
    It makes no difference to Canada what you post. If the source isn't Fox "News", trump, OANN etc. It is all BS to him. He has made it quite clear that he believes that all Democrats are ignorant, socialists and racists and only Republicans have the ability to think and aren't racist.
    Not all demos are like the ones here. A lot of democrats aren't socialists like you. There is a reason why Fox News is the most watched news and fake news CNN rating are in the tank. Democrats who want the real news watch Fox. The socialists are showing that they are the real racists. Last week proved that. Most Republicans and most democrats aren't racist but more democrats than Republicans think blacks are to dumb to think for themselves. Biden proves that daily with his comments. Democrats think blacks need to be told who to vote for and democrats think blacks are to dumb to get a drivers License. Even some of the idiots on this forum explained how difficult it is to get a drivers license.

  13. #2789

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada  [View Original Post]
    The true Racists came out after the Tim Scott speech. The socialists don't like blacks that can think for themselves and be successful. The true racists are the democrats who believe every black needs to be quiet with no opinion and that all blacks have to vote for who they are told to vote for. If they think for themselves and are successful the radical left demonizes them. Can you imagine if a Republican called a black Uncle Tim the backlash they would face. But the democrats don't believe it is racism because Tim Scott didn't vote democrat so he isn't black and he isn't a minority.
    After being comprehensively impaled by Mursenary with the "facts" you so report to love in the matter or race, political affiliation, and vaccine intentions it's no wonder that you want to pivot to a new subject.

    Uncle Tim works fine for me, but as a traditionalist I'll just go with Uncle Tom, pet token, whatever you want to call him. The proof is in his silence in the matter of Trump's consistent racism throughout his life from public positions regarding the Central Park five to the birther conspiracies (Obama), cuddling up to white supremacists and the list goes on. In fact his whole campaign and presidency was about sowing division and stirring up white bigotry, which culminated in the "stop the steal silliness" and mob murders at the state capital. But yea, Uncle Tim (I actually like that) works just fine here as he coddles a bigot for his personal gain. And he isn't a "conservative" while he's propping up Trumpism which features nativism, isolationism, racism and bigotry covert and overt, and all varieties of conspiratorial nonsense.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...mments/588067/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...49c_story.html

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ns/1766715001/

    P.S. On the bright side it's good that you come here, for at least unlike most you are getting exposed to views other than your own and what you'd like to hear.

  14. #2788

    Auto industry in Mexico

    I suggest looking at Wikipedia for info and stats about the "auto industry in Mexico"from 1903 to the present. Maybe the experts here can explain why manufacturing and other industries changed over the years, with automation, high tech, and multinationals following cheap labor. The shit does not hit the fan in a mere 100 days. Does Tim Scott and the Tea Party have a solution to our nation's persistent problems?

  15. #2787

    Bloomberg

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Another fabricated article by a Liberal news. Trump stopped all the auto industry attempts to move to Mexico.

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