Rio de Janeiro Reports

[Xpartan]

I'm coming down in September with a friend who has never been to Brazil (only Colombia) We'll be staying 1 week in SP and 1 week in RJ. I heard it gets a bit cold in RJ around that time compared to when I went in January. Any other things I should know about September so I can prepare? We'll be getting a villa or something like that (any recommendations for some hidden gems? Greatly appreciated) in Copa or Ipanema (barra I liked the many options for cheap luxury condos / villas but the travel from the beach / termas girls is a huge miss for me, I like to step out and feel the sun and sand without planning a whole routine and terma girls are always down to fuck after their shift if they struck out that night and it's a pain to wait 30+ minutes for them to get to barra, prive girls are ok but not very GFE and are pretty mechanical to me IMO).

Can't wait to get back to Rio to see my terma girls who have been messaging me since I left in January! A much needed gateway to paradise!

But in Copa it won't be 1) villa and 2) cheap. It's all about penthouses in Copa. I stayed in a huge 2 story penthouse with a huge jacuzzi overlooking the beach. However, there were 3 of us sharing the cost, and it was still a pretty penny.

As to "cold," I love Rio during the "cold" winter months when cariocas are forced to wear light jackets and bi*tch about the weather to no end. Cracks me up every time. It has never been too cold for me to go into the ocean, enough said, LOL.

[Member #4698]

<snip> I find it interesting that you continue to heap praise upon Bubba Boy while consistently trashing the termas as well. The truth is that a huge focus of his was on the termas, and he spent a lot of time in them. You know, everybody's situation isn't like yours. They have different tastes, a different budget, and a different amount of time to monger. If we were all basically living in Brazil like you are, then yes that would call for doing things differently. A lot differently. But most of us aren't living there and therefore need (and even want) to roll differently. Your constant put downs of people with other tastes, desires, and views really does not contribute much here, and definitely isn't within the spirit of what this place is all about. More live and let live would be far more productive.

Yeah, I don't have get the "my way is the only way" attitude or the divisive pseudo macho rhetoric that says, "anybody who pays list price is a sucker." This BS should end. There are many ways to intelligently play the game. Do what is good for you and don't fret about what the other guy is doing.

<snip> Going to a terma and doing a session isn't overpaying. You are paying a fixed price for services offered by the house. Those who say you overpay at a terma frankly can't afford it! Just admit it.

And this whole act of "oh I'm so like a Brazilian and savvy and will only go in to get numbers because that's what Brazilians do". Another crock of shit. There are plenty of Brazilian customers that session in the termas because 1) they have the money to do so 2) they're married, so it's their discrete getaway from their wives during the week.

The majority of these girls are more comfortable seeing the customer in the terma for the first encounter. After that, the customer can get her number and have her come to his place for a better agreed upon price. Going to a terma and getting a bunch of numbers doesn't mean you have any guarantee of girls coming over to your place. It's funny how the hit / miss ratio of this strategy is NEVER mentioned. So if you go to a terma and see someone you like and are getting along well with, do the test drive there. There's no shame in it. You're on vacation with limited time.

I couldn't agree more. There a dozens of individual reasons why men like to go to bordellos to get it on. I like hanging out in the Termas and getting up front and close with the Terma girls. The idea of not taking a sexy girl upstairs whom I had just made out with and fondled for 10 minutes sounds insane to me. I am here to have a good time, not see how little I can get away with paying.

And Gordy, you make another important point about there being no guarantees that the girl in question ever makes it to my place after we exchange phone numbers and not bodily fluids. I gather the idea is to take advantage of the law of large numbers. IE make the offer to enough girls and someone is always bound to come over. But that is not how I like to roll. I am a straight forward shooter. When a girl turns me on, I want her and I take her. Simple. Straight forward. No messing around. No games. No waiting / I just want to get it on and have sex with her. And after the session is all over, if I really liked the girl and I think I might want to repeat with her at some future date, we can always exchange whatsapp numbers then and we make all the future plans we want. And I can go out, have some dinner, and then hit another Terma or Bar and do it all over again.

So my focus is entirely on the girls; their looks and the quality of their service. I would never put someone down who has found an alternative, cheaper, or for him, a better way. But respect is a 2 way street. I expect the same level of respect back or the gloves will come off. (555 BTW means hahaha).

[GordyGekko]

First of all, you assume that getting it bare is always a good thing that all mongers should seek or want. The truth is that many guys choose to play it safe versus playing Russian roulette with their health by fucking multiple prostitutes bare. Plenty of women (including prostitutes too) actually do respect men who show that they care about safe sex practices that protect both themselves and women. Second, I find it interesting that you continue to heap praise upon Bubba Boy while consistently trashing the termas as well. The truth is that a huge focus of his was on the termas, and he spent a lot of time in them. You know, everybody's situation isn't like yours. They have different tastes, a different budget, and a different amount of time to monger. If we were all basically living in Brazil like you are, then yes that would call for doing things differently. A lot differently. But most of us aren't living there and therefore need (and even want) to roll differently. Your constant put downs of people with other tastes, desires, and views really does not contribute much here, and definitely isn't within the spirit of what this place is all about. More live and let live would be far more productive.

To add to The Cane's point...The majority of hobbyists/punters are on vacation to get laid by beautiful women for less cost than their home country. They aren't pathologically obsessed with getting the cheapest price possible and denigrating everybody else that doesn't do the same thing. Most of use are not living in a fantasy world where our ego depends on shooting the most loads in the most holes for the least price.

Also, these exaggerated posts about Barra (known as Boring Barra to most veterans) and cheap all night rates for VM low quality gp's are just going to lead a bunch of newbies into frustration and sub par experiences because the recommendations are out of touch with reality.

This hobby is for pleasure. It's not war. It's not the stock market. It's not mission impossible or some spy game.

[Vagabundo1]

I'm not even going to argue, just quote Bubba Boy, who wrote.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...375&viewfull=1#post2558375.

"The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night. Entrance is generally are $ 10 to are $ 20 and the girl maybe are $ 100, hence with a bit of work you can bang some one as hot or even hotter than at the expensive places for just are $ 150, half the price and twice the fun!

Now on the basis of your 2 posts, I understand you disagree. I am quoting from Bubba Boy's two entire written guides. As for money, well, I have enough to be here as long as I want, while most visitors are constrained by time, money, or both. As they say in the law, res ipsa loquitor. Look it up.

As for the stock market comparison, it is actually like a stock market. It has everything to do with economics. That's self evident.

Staying in Botafogo is a good move, which I've done and recommended.

But the simple fact is that the best girls have chosen to live in Barra, which tells you something. We have a saying in the military art, "get inside his decision making loop," or to use the wingman analogy, "get on his 6," meaning behind your target. Allowing that most of the chicks you are looking at live at Transamerica, would it not help your game to see those girls at 10 am and 2 PM in the pool? In the elevator? In reception? In the bar? On the street for the morning walk?

But you got me, I don't know anything.

Oh, by the way, my hit ratio? It was one shot, one kill on Rihanna Noir (pictured) on the cheaper place on the Darkside. I got her number, waited a few weeks, texted her, met her at Central, and went straight bare up those 19 year old holes. And she is one of 3-4 in the rotation, and there are several trying to get in at any given time.

Just factually, you're wrong. It's easy to get to pharma and grocery in Barra.

I finally made my trip to Rio a few weeks ago after a long hiatus and really enjoyed the termas again, even though Luomo is no longer there. I also decided to stay in Botafogo, which is a good neighborhood and has fewer tourists. Staying in Barra made no sense. No grocery store or pharmacy within walking distance and it takes forever to get anywhere. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Going to a terma and doing a session isn't overpaying. You are paying a fixed price for services offered by the house. Those who say you overpay at a terma frankly can't afford it! Just admit it.

And this whole act of "oh I'm so like a Brazilian and savvy and will only go in to get numbers because that's what Brazilians do". Another crock of shit. There are plenty of Brazilian customers that session in the termas because 1) they have the money to do so 2) they're married, so it's their discrete getaway from their wives during the week..

[Vagabundo1]

Yeah, FS is available at the prives.

Read gparena.net.

Select the prive tab.

It's 120 for the hour at most, 70 or 80 for the half.

Hi Vagabundo,

Enjoy reading your insights. At Onix is there a potential for more action or is it just HJ. Carol, Laura, Malu look hot. Did you session with them by any chance?

[GordyGekko]

I finally made my trip to Rio a few weeks ago after a long hiatus and really enjoyed the termas again, even though Luomo is no longer there. I also decided to stay in Botafogo, which is a good neighborhood and has fewer tourists. Staying in Barra made no sense. No grocery store or pharmacy within walking distance and it takes forever to get anywhere. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Going to a terma and doing a session isn't overpaying. You are paying a fixed price for services offered by the house. Those who say you overpay at a terma frankly can't afford it! Just admit it.

And this whole act of "oh I'm so like a Brazilian and savvy and will only go in to get numbers because that's what Brazilians do". Another crock of shit. There are plenty of Brazilian customers that session in the termas because 1) they have the money to do so 2) they're married, so it's their discrete getaway from their wives during the week.

The majority of these girls are more comfortable seeing the customer in the terma for the first encounter. After that, the customer can get her number and have her come to his place for a better agreed upon price. Going to a terma and getting a bunch of numbers doesn't mean you have any guarantee of girls coming over to your place. It's funny how the hit / miss ratio of this strategy is NEVER mentioned. So if you go to a terma and see someone you like and are getting along well with, do the test drive there. There's no shame in it. You're on vacation with limited time.

It's stupid to overpay in termas. Just get numbers and set it up outside. Don't pay the ask. Make a market, get 5-10 numbers and you will get your bid filled. Contact them a day in advance more. Be the hunter not the hunted, be the bat not the ball, gain and keep the initiative.

At these exchange rates Uber costs are negligible.

[MiamiBoy1]

If my budget is 500 R pernoite (or multiple hours date) and I want them to come over to my airbnb? Barravips girls are pricey and do not negotiate. Brothels / casas / termas. I do not like, because I prefer to fuck in my apartment, it is much more enjoyable, I can put my favorite music on, pour some wine or mix up my drinks. If I'm paying for a nice apartment it would be stupid not to use it and rent a shitty motel room or fuck in a tiny termas room.

I see three options:

1. Visit mab's or dolce vita and try to grab a working girl there and bring her over to my place. Any other bars or clubs with working girls I should stop by?

2. Will try SA, the selection is poor, I guess it is not popular in Rio, but who knows. Premium membership is on sale now, and I will buy it anyways for my trip to Bogota after.

3. Visit termas and collect phone numbers and try to arrange something later. I am not sure how this is going to play out, my guess is that they would want pretty much same money as barravip girls. Also, entrance fees, drinks, etc all add up. My understanding is termas are hit or miss, sometimes lineups are good, sometimes they are not. But just to get in and see who is working requires some money and time. I don't mind spending money on drinks, etc. In fact, I love going out with girls and getting fucked up, but I just don't like being forced into paying some fees, buying bottles, etc. Required at some establishments.

I'm SA guy, I set up a date, pick a restaurant or a bar, and off we go. Eat, drink, dance, come to my place, fuck, 2 rounds usually with more drinks in between, she leaves. Rinse and repeat. I'm trying to find something similar for reasonable money in Rio.

Any suggestions are welcomed.

[USMatt]

I went to RB156 yesterday.

I just gave them my "name" and they pulled it and gave me a card to go into and out of the building.

I just wanted a real massage at onix.

It was 110 r for an hour, and 60 for intimo.

As it turned out a real massage also included a hand job, which is a nice gesture. I was just looking for a deep tissue massage.

Hi Vagabundo,

Enjoy reading your insights. At Onix is there a potential for more action or is it just HJ. Carol, Laura, Malu look hot. Did you session with them by any chance?

[Spidy]

The first time I went to Colombia I did a similar thing. I stayed in Zona Rose (Bogota) and El Poblado (Medellin). Those are the nicer, more posh areas that are generally pretty safe. As I gained more familiarity with the various cities I started to spread my wings more and stay in different parts. Now when I visit I stay exclusively near Sante Fe in Bogota and a variety of places in Medellin. . . .

I see the comparison here when talking about where to stay in Rio regarding Copa vs. Barra. As this will be my first trip to Brazil, I'll be staying in Copa (to start) in Rio and Moema while in SP. . . .

Your take on how to go about assessing "where to stay", in Rio / SP with reference to your experiences in Bogota / Medellin is pretty good. It should serve you well, in Brazil. New MBs plagued with this decision should take note.

Colombia (Bogota / Medellin) is on my bucket list, so your info, definitely helps. Thanks!

[The Cane]

The two questions to ask are:

1. Are you getting it bare?

2. Are you on her social media?

If not, you probably don't have her respect, and you may as well be a dildo.

If you're writing about Brazil and you haven't even been here, what's the point?

If the extent of your experience is ordering freelancers like Elisa Sanches or going to termas in Copa, then your perspective is so limited your input is of limited value at best.

First of all, you assume that getting it bare is always a good thing that all mongers should seek or want. The truth is that many guys choose to play it safe versus playing Russian roulette with their health by fucking multiple prostitutes bare. Plenty of women (including prostitutes too) actually do respect men who show that they care about safe sex practices that protect both themselves and women. Second, I find it interesting that you continue to heap praise upon Bubba Boy while consistently trashing the termas as well. The truth is that a huge focus of his was on the termas, and he spent a lot of time in them. You know, everybody's situation isn't like yours. They have different tastes, a different budget, and a different amount of time to monger. If we were all basically living in Brazil like you are, then yes that would call for doing things differently. A lot differently. But most of us aren't living there and therefore need (and even want) to roll differently. Your constant put downs of people with other tastes, desires, and views really does not contribute much here, and definitely isn't within the spirit of what this place is all about. More live and let live would be far more productive.

[Member #4729]

Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour".

This is an idea I've discussed with my father (an actual economist) and is actually a fairly serious proposition. After all, famed economist Steven Levitt writes about the Economics of Drug Dealing in the best seller "Freakonomics", and I see no reason why the measure would be any less valid than the widely used "Big Mac" Index and worthy of deep study.

https://www.economist.com/big-mac-index

One esteemed poster noted here a while back that the efflorescence of prostitution seems to occur most robustly in emerging middle-income countries in which there is still a large income inequality and where wage labor remains depressed. Thailand, Brazil, Russia would be great examples. Consider that although working girl hours remain the cheapest in low income countries like Cambodia, Philippines, and Cambodia, but there is lack of a critical infrastructure around it on the scale of aforementioned locations and the industry has not flourished. Germany and the FKK scene seems to elide this rule, but perhaps could more represent the logic of a migratory labor force from the Balkans similar to the German phenomenon of the "Polish Plumber".

First chance I get I'm going right back to Angeles City / Subic where you can get 30-40 $ BBFS with a LBFM 7 nights a week. For my money, that's the best values out there even if the whole city is a sh*t hole. I mean, priorities.

[Vagabundo1]

That's just the big Mac index from the economist.com or purchasing power parity.

Look if you haven't even been in Brazil you probably have no cred writing about it.

Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour". Sadly I tossed it years ago or I'the give you the link.

[HarvestBoi]

Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour". Sadly I tossed it years ago or I'the give you the link.

IMHO, the Real seems undervalued. With a rate of R100=USD 18.50 (roughly 5. 5), <$US60 for an hour or more of pleasure is a good deal. Many are under <$USD25 an hour. Is there price of pussy (POP INDEX) (snicker) ?

[Vagabundo1]

The two questions to ask are:

1. Are you getting it bare?

2. Are you on her social media?

If not, you probably don't have her respect, and you may as well be a dildo.

If you're writing about Brazil and you haven't even been here, what's the point?

If the extent of your experience is ordering freelancers like Elisa Sanches or going to termas in Copa, then your perspective is so limited your input is of limited value at best.

[Pahllus Maximus]

Yep, multi-factorial market pricing with all the usual arbitrage and fools in the game, men and women. I enjoy your posts.

For this group, those not not selling labour, smart investments and living in pleasant lands arbitraging currency, tax laws, exploiting the cost of living and price and ready availability of beautiful and nubile young women is entirely rational, especially with effectively free video communication and dirt cheap airlines to have the best of all worlds. COVID has wreaked havoc on that, and is why it is so traumatic. It has effectively forced the sale of high structural cost societies, a sort of put option by closed borders.

IMHO, the Real seems undervalued. With a rate of R100=USD 18.50 (roughly 5. 5), <$US60 for an hour or more of pleasure is a good deal. Many are under <$USD25 an hour. Is there price of pussy (POP INDEX) (snicker) ?