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  1. #47775
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Great report, we usually see first time reports asking stupid questions which could of been answered if the poster had RTFF.

    Anyways, working on your Spanish will greatly enhance your experience's in Colombia which you figured out.
    What did you use to learn Spanish? Private tutor? Classes? Language learning app like Duolingo?

  2. #47774
    Facebook and discretion are mutually exclusive. Even Zuckerberg admits it now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21  [View Original Post]
    First off yes that mde forum with FB girls was a huge help. Too bad. Maybe it will revive.

    I stated in my two month trip in January that this was happening. The "in demand" girls of FB will not budge off 250 mil. And I would see their hottest friends and that's an additional 50 mil commission.

    For me the convenience of FB girls is discretion.

    During the peak of the pandemic the girls found a way to make money in other ways.

    I don't see these girls coming down in price until they become real real desperate.

    There's at least 3 girls that were on Vane's list 3 years ago that are now charging 500 mil and up and totally full of themselves.

    I give them credit for their hustle and being smart enough to better their life. But it does become unfortunate for mongers.

    But 250 mil now and 200 mil a few years ago is about the same damage in USD.

  3. #47773

    Well

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Centro most definitely is not for guys whose preferences are for very hot and pretty chicas, albeit there are a few. For guys without a "must" to have a killer pretty faced Chica, there's a lot to be had there, if you have the time and patience to work the place.
    It depends on what "Centro" you are talking about. All you do is street, and regarding that, probably what you say is true. Regarding the downtown casas and strip clubs, there's more than "a few," and they tend to be natural.

    As to the "very hot and pretty chicas" in the tourist areas, well, often once the clothes come off she's Frankenstein's daughter with scars to prove it, and that 9 suddenly becomes a 2. Further downgrades may be in order once the makeup is removed. Yet admittedly, after some drinks, a lot of guys aren't going to notice or care. Wink.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHJlWzKeFHU

  4. #47772

    Very accurate report!

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    My fifth visit to Medellin (MDE) was my least satisfying trip there so far. I attribute this sub-par experience to: 1) unfavorable trends in the Facebook scene; 2) the loss of intel on individual Facebook girls due to the breakdown of a MDE-specific forum that I previously used to find reputable talent; and 3) my search for "fresh meat" among previously unknown Facebook girls. The combination of higher prices and lower quality and reliability on Facebook lowers MDE's ranking in my book, closer to that of Bogota. I will still return to MDE, but with a more conservative approach. If nothing else, this trip taught me the value of the many good contacts that I have developed there over the years.

    I had hoped to return to MDE earlier in 2021, but the combination of Colombian and USA Testing requirements deterred me. By the time that I overcame this reluctance, MDE renewed restrictions for Easter and then riots started. The coast was clear in June, with the lifting of MDE restrictions and the PCR requirement and the end of riots. I fulfilled the USA Test requirement with an at-home antigen test from a USA Lab. I bought them online, took one to MDE, and did it in my crib with the lab via webcam. This resolved my concerns about a botched test yielding a false positive and triggering quarantine.
    First off yes that mde forum with FB girls was a huge help. Too bad. Maybe it will revive.

    I stated in my two month trip in January that this was happening. The "in demand" girls of FB will not budge off 250 mil. And I would see their hottest friends and that's an additional 50 mil commission.

    For me the convenience of FB girls is discretion.

    During the peak of the pandemic the girls found a way to make money in other ways.

    I don't see these girls coming down in price until they become real real desperate.

    There's at least 3 girls that were on Vane's list 3 years ago that are now charging 500 mil and up and totally full of themselves.

    I give them credit for their hustle and being smart enough to better their life. But it does become unfortunate for mongers.

    But 250 mil now and 200 mil a few years ago is about the same damage in USD.

  5. #47771
    Quote Originally Posted by SavePros321  [View Original Post]
    It's a roll of the dice man. But this is something simple you can do: agree to pay for "el carro" (DiDi, InDriver, Uber) and from your place. If the chick shows up not looking like her photos, or if you get that the vibe is off, do not try to engage in sex and just tell her you will give her money for her taxi back home. No harm, no foul.

    Don't always go by vibe though. Some chicas arrive and we don't have much to say. But then it ends up being a wild time in the sack and turns out to be something you almost missed out on, LOL.
    Well put. Maybe I've been jumping the gun too much. Cause on the flipside sometimes really cute girls you have a great connection with are terrible in bed. It's unfortunate those don't always correlate jaja.

  6. #47770

    I disagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    I like them around 30, not an 18 year old cheerleader that can't take the lumber. A nasty horny 30 year old will give me a run for my money, an 18 year old will just be to giggly for me. On the other hand though, an 18 year old as you described with a killer body can be a hell of a turn if you engage them to explore their sexuality. I find it interesting how varied everyone's personal tastes are in women, with no taste being right or wrong.
    Unless you are just being facetious, most 30 yo putas around the world have too much cock mileage for me, and god knows how many babies they've shit out.

    Regardless of how grande we are, 18 yo vaginas can take it, they were made to push out babies the size of basketballs LOL.

    Unless you're talking about that midget that hangs around parque Bolivar.

    I think if I stuck it in her, I would push her organs out of her mouth and asshole jajjajaja.

  7. #47769

    Well elephant man jajajaja

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought  [View Original Post]
    Speaking from first-hand experience? This one actually sounds plausible.
    If you want me to flex my ego for you, I will.

    Trust me if I go in there, they are all cumming out for me jajajajjajajaaaa, I know this from experience with other mongers around the world.

    We go in separately and the line up has less hot putas for some of them, but more for me.

    Never vice versa.

    Some very hot putas only work in places with this option so they don't need to go with mongers like you!

  8. #47768

    Muchas gracias

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackThought  [View Original Post]
    Someone with a lot of time on his hands, but no money would clearly miss the point I was making. Not surprised.
    For not sharing your non-existent "point" jajajajajaaaaaa.

  9. #47767
    Quote Originally Posted by LostBlade  [View Original Post]
    Hello guys,



    The trip was 3 days in Cartagena and 5 days in Medellin and I was traveling with 3 other friends.

    .
    Saw you guys in the Hotel and in the Bank next to the Hotel. I told you not to withdrawl money in US Currency if you remember. looks like you all had fun: the.

  10. #47766
    Thank you for taking the time to write about facebook. Based on your report I see two primary options for you:

    1. continue mining the depths of facebook in search of satisfaction.

    2. begin to explore the world beyond facebook.

    I look forward to seeing how it plays out. I would like to suggest that five facebook centric visits don't likely offer representative experiences of what Medellin has to offer. I have some acquaintances who also swear by facebook. For what it's worth the trends I notice in how they evaluate their experiences (in order of descending priority) center on how much time the facebook girl is with them, whether or not they get an uncovered blow job, and cost.

    Quote Originally Posted by GringoItaliano  [View Original Post]
    My fifth visit to Medellin (MDE) was my least satisfying trip there so far. I attribute this sub-par experience to: 1) unfavorable trends in the Facebook scene; 2) the loss of intel on individual Facebook girls due to the breakdown of a MDE-specific forum that I previously used to find reputable talent; and 3) my search for "fresh meat" among previously unknown Facebook girls. The combination of higher prices and lower quality and reliability on Facebook lowers MDE's ranking in my book, closer to that of Bogota. I will still return to MDE, but with a more conservative approach. If nothing else, this trip taught me the value of the many good contacts that I have developed there over the years.

    I had hoped to return to MDE earlier in 2021, but the combination of Colombian and USA Testing requirements deterred me. By the time that I overcame this reluctance, MDE renewed restrictions for Easter and then riots started. The coast was clear in June, with the lifting of MDE restrictions and the PCR requirement and the end of riots. I fulfilled the USA Test requirement with an at-home antigen test from a USA Lab. I bought them online, took one to MDE, and did it in my crib with the lab via webcam. This resolved my concerns about a botched test yielding a false positive and triggering quarantine..

  11. #47765
    Quote Originally Posted by Evx69  [View Original Post]
    ... are there vendors and locals following you around in Medellin, just like they do in Cartagena?
    No. No more commend necessary.

  12. #47764

    "The New Normal?" Medellin Trip Report, July 2021

    My fifth visit to Medellin (MDE) was my least satisfying trip there so far. I attribute this sub-par experience to: 1) unfavorable trends in the Facebook scene; 2) the loss of intel on individual Facebook girls due to the breakdown of a MDE-specific forum that I previously used to find reputable talent; and 3) my search for "fresh meat" among previously unknown Facebook girls. The combination of higher prices and lower quality and reliability on Facebook lowers MDE's ranking in my book, closer to that of Bogota. I will still return to MDE, but with a more conservative approach. If nothing else, this trip taught me the value of the many good contacts that I have developed there over the years.

    I had hoped to return to MDE earlier in 2021, but the combination of Colombian and USA Testing requirements deterred me. By the time that I overcame this reluctance, MDE renewed restrictions for Easter and then riots started. The coast was clear in June, with the lifting of MDE restrictions and the PCR requirement and the end of riots. I fulfilled the USA Test requirement with an at-home antigen test from a USA Lab. I bought them online, took one to MDE, and did it in my crib with the lab via webcam. This resolved my concerns about a botched test yielding a false positive and triggering quarantine.

    I would normally choose my lineup by using a mongering forum focused on MDE, with reviews of Facebook girls. That forum is still online but unusable due to technical problems that its owner has not fixed. The loss of this intel was a major blow to my pipeline. Without an intel-based choice of new prospects, I decided to make a virtue out of necessity and focus on "fresh meat," or girls with no track record. I have heard enough mongers lament the focus of so many guys on a handful of well-known girls and praise the virtue of finding their own pristine gems that I decided to try it more than before.

    I saw the first signs of negative changes in the local Facebook scene on my last (November 2020) trip. I thought at the time that those few experiences were: random flukes; the occasional downside of seeking "fresh meat;" or temporary hiccups on the road to recovery from one of the world's longest lockdowns. These problems persisted and worsened since my last trip, perhaps due to the combination of renewed restrictions and the riots this spring. Many mongers have feared MDE would become another Costa Rica; perhaps that day has finally come. I believe that the precipitating factor was not hordes of ill-advised gringos, but the general insanity and ridiculousness of the past year and half.

    The most measurable change has been the increase in many Facebook girls' asking prices. Historically, only a small fraction of girls would ask for more than the usual 150 k-200 k COP plus taxi, for which there was typically some clear reason, such as appearance, reputation, or special services. On this trip, the proportion of girls asking for more than the historic norm without an obvious justification grew massively. Such quotes of 250-300 k were almost as common as those in the historic price range. This upward trend was less common among better-known girls, who usually respected historic prices. Perhaps this shift is due in part to an influx of new girls motivated by economic hardship. The economic deprivation of the past year and half must be a major factor across the board, as the girls seek to make up for lost income by increasing prices. Economic logic would suggest lowering prices in response to low demand, but since when does logic have any role in their thinking?

    One of the sharper girls suggested that increased COP prices were adjustments for changes in the USD-COP exchange rate in the past year and a half, during which COP has lost much of its value against USD. It was stable at around 3000:1 for a long time but has decreased to around 3800:1 in the past year and a half of economic insanity. In other words, some have started pegging the COP prices to the USD.

    Some of them took this practice further and simply quoted prices in USD. That happened a few times on my last trip and even more on this trip. I asked them about this and they said that they acquired that habit in Panama, from which they had returned to MDE after lockdowns and restrictions disrupted the scene there. These prices, usually $100 USD, were even more inflated than increased COP prices.

    The rise of web cam work and the online sale of sexual content by many Facebook girls as an alternate source of income due to lockdowns and other restrictions may have changed earning expectations. One of them justified higher prices by claiming that she could earn as much from online sex work as the historic normal prices for citas, but from the comfort of her home and without having to fuck gringos.

    The riots earlier this year must have had some impact on the scene, beyond the loss of income from foreign mongers staying home for safety reasons. Perhaps it filled their heads with bad social or economic ideas or encouraged them to assert their perceived rights and interests. One girl's Facebook profile warned supporters of President Duque and Colombian police that she would not speak to them, in an uncanny echo of statements about Trump supporters that many USA Women include on their social media and dating profiles. I also noticed USA -influenced graffiti in MDE, such as "ACAB," or "All Cops Are Bastards. " Considering the damage that such ideas are doing to our own society, it would not be surprising if their export to Colombia is damaging and corrupting that society as well.

    There has clearly been a negative change in many Facebook girls' attitudes. Before, one key factor that had repeatedly brought me back to MDE, more than any other mongering destination, was the way that the girls treated me and their GFE vibe. The girls were generally nicer to me and more pleasant company than elsewhere. While I could still certainly find many GFE vibes on this trip, never before have I dismissed so many online prospects because of bad vibes and unpleasant attitudes that I sensed.

    Even more frustrating was the notorious paisa flakiness. It is a long-standing problem that I saw before; I had learned to accept a certain modicum of flakiness, e. G. Arriving 15-20 minutes late, as "the nature of the beast. " On this trip the flakiness skyrocketed off the charts and was more egregious than I had ever seen. Less than half of the citas that I arranged actually occurred. They just blew me off without following up, or they failed to contact me to confirm or cancel within a window of time that I had specified. I used to think that this flakiness was a cultural feature or due to Third World logistical challenges, but now I recognize that it is just disrespect. This realization lowered my opinion of MDE.

    For example, one girl that blew off our cita had the chutzpah to contact me a few days later to ask if I still wanted a cita. I told her that she was persona non grata due to her failure to cancel responsibly, as we had agreed. Another girl told me an obvious lie. She claimed that she had overslept and just woken up (as if that were a valid excuse! But I had seen on WhatsApp that she had read and ignored my earlier message when she was supposedly sleeping. Only one girl canceled responsibly, with many hours of advance notice more than what I had asked; she arrived on time for the rescheduled cita.

    This trip was the first time that I encountered blatant dishonesty in the form of catfishing or bait-and-switch. Two of the girls that showed up for citas were not the girls from their Facebook photos. One of them resembled the girl in the photos enough that she might have been a much less attractive sister or cousin. The other one was cute but a totally different body type from the girl in the photos. In both cases the girls were slow to remove face masks after exiting taxis, presumably in an effort to continue the deception as long as possible as if they thought that I would not eventually notice! Another girl did match her photos but reneged on our agreement for a specific service. The catfishing rattled my confidence in the Facebook pipeline, which I had come to trust to some degree on prior trips. Girls might have had unduly flattering but otherwise genuine pictures or found ways to hide their physical flaws before, but it was not until this trip that I had to wonder if they were totally fake.

    For those citas that did occur, the quality of the performances was down on average, particularly with "fresh meat. " I attribute this lower-quality performance to either half-assed attitudes or a lack of erotic skills, depending on the girl. With that said, I did find some good performers among the girls that were new to me but had some track record with other mongers. I will add them to my roster for future trips.

    A few days into my week-long trip, it became clear that my strategy was not working. I abandoned my quest for "fresh meat" and limited myself to Facebook girls that I had seen before, or that already had reputations. This shift salvaged the trip and made it worthwhile. Their performances were closer to what I had previously experienced. I also did two overnight citas with girls that I had seen before, one of whom will become a regular overnighter for future trips. Another one of my girls from a previous trip has improved her skills quite a bit since I last saw her, so I will make her a priority on future visits.

    I had two backups for when Facebook citas flaked: Centro street meat during the day and La Isla at night. I found a stacked Venezuelan "diamond in the rough" in Centro. She delivered an enthusiastic performance at a fraction of the price that Facebook girls sought. We spent so much time together that the short-time hotel staff came to kick us out of the room, but she did not ask for more money. I got her contact details and hope to invite her to my crib on a future trip, once Venezuelans in Colombia are legally documented. This contrast with my Facebook experience reminded me of the virtues of street meat and made me look forward to my next visit to Bogota's Santa Fe district. La Isla yielded two good sessions on a predictably busy Saturday night but was less productive during the week.

    On a separate note, I was more successful in getting girls to agree to BBBJ than on any other prior MDE trip. I only had to discard a few online prospects because they insisted on CBJ. I think that this greater success was due to a change in my approach. I previously used conjugations of the phrase "chupar sin condon," in the interest of maximum clarity. This time I used the subtler phrase "oral natural," taking a more delicate, indirect approach to what some girls view as a sensitive issue.

    Some mongers predicted that they would find huge numbers of hot girls eager to fuck their brains out at rock-bottom prices once this insanity subsided and mongering resumed with some semblance of normalcy. Suffice it to say that, not only were these predictions wrong, but the opposite may turn out to be true in some cases. It would be ironic if the prediction of MDE turning into Costa Rica came true not because of clueless gringo hordes killing the market, but in connection with their extended absence.

    A key selling point of MDE's Facebook scene for me was that it yielded consistent but moderate quality at medium prices, compared to the extremes of Cartagena and Bogota. I now find this selling point to be less true than before, as prices increase while quality and reliability decrease. It is frustrating and ironic to sit in your crib with many hot girls blowing up your phone for a cita as you wait around for the one that you chose to not show up, or to show up an hour late and deliver a half-assed performance at a higher price. This frustrating irony makes Santa Fe in Bogota, with its lower prices and the opportunity to scope out and pull girls in person and on the spot, an increasingly appealing alternative. The many stacked girls in Santa Fe are also a better fit for my personal tastes than the MDE flacas.

    I will return to MDE with more conservative Facebook lineups. I used to default to girls that were new to me and only repeated with girls I already knew as backup. In the future, girls I already know will be priorities, as I know enough of them by now to rely on that talent pool. I will continue to seek new girls but focus on those with good reputations. I will make "fresh meat" a low priority and vet a much smaller number of unknown girls more vigorously. Of course, that task would be more productive if someone could fix that broken MDE forum. It would be a shame to lose such an intel goldmine.

  13. #47763
    Quote Originally Posted by LostBlade  [View Original Post]
    Final through, There is really no Asian's in Colombia, I saw probably a handful during the 8 days I was there. Medellin weather is amazing. You can get by with no Spanish but you really don't want to. One night I walk out to grub my friend some bandage, because he cut his finger and I didn't bring my phone. When I got to the pharmacy, the pharmacist can't understand my hand gesture for bandage, luckily there was an expat their to help me out. Also, trying to use google translate on a phone, to read the menu on another phone looks super dumb. I am now working on my Spanish and planning a return trip to Medellin in October.
    Great report, we usually see first time reports asking stupid questions which could of been answered if the poster had RTFF.

    Anyways, working on your Spanish will greatly enhance your experience's in Colombia which you figured out.

  14. #47762
    Quote Originally Posted by ColombiaLover  [View Original Post]
    I like them young and unspoiled if I can get them. I have had a few high school girls myself. They are 18, but still in school. For me, that makes it extra hot. If you can get them to wear their uniform, all the better. The HS girls I've had are not prepagos (at least not yet), so getting them fresh with no baby damage, cellulite, fat without much mileage is great. They often lack some experience, but that's where the teaching comes into play. And that can be fun also, especially when they are open to learning.
    I like them around 30, not an 18 year old cheerleader that can't take the lumber. A nasty horny 30 year old will give me a run for my money, an 18 year old will just be to giggly for me. On the other hand though, an 18 year old as you described with a killer body can be a hell of a turn if you engage them to explore their sexuality. I find it interesting how varied everyone's personal tastes are in women, with no taste being right or wrong.

  15. #47761
    Quote Originally Posted by Beobeo  [View Original Post]
    Of course man, you do you and who care what other say. Honestly, I still walk el Centro once a while but always walk away disappointed. Once a while, I see members posted that they met a 9 in Centro for have her for 30 k or something. I'm like FUCK, I want a 9 for 30 k and I walked around then walked away disappointed.

    I'm just saying, base on the scale that was post recently. It's hard to find a 7 in el Centro. You can forget the 9-10. Some members posted meeting 9-10 in Centro, they use a different scale. I'm sure once a while you find a unicorn, that is like hitting the lottery. For a normal Joe, that visit Medellin once a while you're not going to find that. It's better to use different venue (FB, Casa, etc.).
    Centro most definitely is not for guys whose preferences are for very hot and pretty chicas, albeit there are a few. For guys without a "must" to have a killer pretty faced Chica, there's a lot to be had there, if you have the time and patience to work the place.

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