Hong Kong Club Reports

[KC Questor]

They live in the moment. Americans do forget to stop and smell the roses. There is a lot of negativity on this board over a dollar. We have to appreciate the opportunities and experiences we have. My ex novia would tell me all the time; appreciate what you have. She was the ultimate live in and appreciate the moment.

There's a joke that I heard a long time ago. An American businessman is spending a month vacation on the beach in Mexico. Every morning he watches a fisherman take his boat out to sea, only to return a few hours later with a small load of fish. In the afternoons walking through town, he sees the fisherman sitting under a tree playing the guitar, or at a cafe drinking with his friends, or in the park playing with his children. One day the businessman approaches the fisherman and asks him why he quits fishing so early just to lounge around town all day. The fisherman asks what else he should do.

"Well," says the businessman, "if you fished all day you could bring back many more fish to sell and make more money. Then you could take that extra money and buy a second boat and pay someone to fish for you. With two boats you'll make even more money and buy more boats. You could have a fleet of boats all catching fish for you to sell to the local cannery. With enough money, you could eventually open your own canning factory. After working thirty or forty years you would be wealthy and could retire. ".

"And then what?" asked the fisherman.

"Well, then you could spend your days playing guitar, drinking with your amigos, and playing with your children. ".

[Member #4730]

Now here is where things start to get fucked up. I see Azucena with this guy who is buying her drinks and having a good time. Maybe this was a mistake, but I felt obligated to let this dude know who he was partying with. So I went up to him with her on his lap and told him: "be careful because she scammed me by $200 and didn't put out and I just wanted you to know" he nodded and I walked away.

About 10 min later, I'm sitting down at a table and 3 security guys come over and tell me I need to come with them. Confused, I'm like OK sure. They escort me outside and tell me I have to leave because I'm hassling the girls. I'm like wtf. I've only bought drinks and been polite. I then realize it must be what I said to that dude. I tell the story to the security guys and there like yep that's the reason.

Anyway Tijuana is fucked up and maybe I'm just not cut out for it. I might do a total trip report because there is much more to say, but I wanted to warn others to not make my mistakes.

Thanks for sharing! To be honest, I think that was a beta male move. You should learn from the lesson and chalk it up to a loss. Also Tijuana is what you make of it. They have other clubs. I have regulars at the others and gems can be found throughout Tijuana. Not sure if she was attracted to you or waiting for you to initiate the move.

I've only had this happen in the US doing an outcall. I paid a young Asian college student $250 probably back in 2011 or 2012 at my hotel. She knew my real name as she "verified" me for her security purposes. Then she proceeded to try and talk to me for 10 min. about her love of college rugby and I asked what else we were going to do and then she said it was for her time. I just politely told her she is free to go. Another time I did an incall in Waikiki and the provider gave ok service, but then the police were waiting in the lobby and said I need to vacate the premises and hotel 86 d me. Not sure for lifetime or years? I was in the military at the time and they had no evidence so just walked away and the providers got 86 d as well.

I have not been taken advantage of in the Zona. I've had times where I didn't get off within the allotted time and or just didn't have chemistry during session and then we just parted ways. When you find ones you have good chemistry with, then try to stick with them and build up a list so one should be in town during your visit. Even then, they may have an off day or myself and it isn't as spectacular as previous sessions, but hey we're all human. Hope you can get back on that horse and if it isn't for you, then plenty of other monger destinations. HK walk ups are fun and so were the Macau saunas. Not sure if they are closed down, but I know my favorite Thailand is slowly dying. They are having riots at the moment.

[LuvMexicanas]

Not a reference, actually boot camp with the people that fall out of runs and continually fuck up the platoon. The group has to either make the weak link stronger or get rid of them.

So what they did to the fat guy in Full Metal Jacket is based in reality. I figured something is done to those who fuck it up for the rest but the identical big bar of soap in the pillow case method makes me give props to the director for keeping it real in that top 5 movie for me.

[Member #4730]

I'll say this and I truly don't believe anyone on this board fits either of these profiles. But given this incident and others, I wanted to voice my thought. Most guys go to the zona for all the right reasons and the right mindset. It's fun. It's not real life. I think there are two types though that are a bit dangerous. I will preface it with this: no chica deserves to be on the receiving end of any violence. Period. So what I am saying in no way absolves these abusive assholes of responsibility. That said, I do think chicas also play a dangerous game at times too.

Type 1: You have the jealous boyfriend type. The type that falls for a girl and believes he's the one. This type probably starts as a normal, fun-seeking visitor. He finds "the one". She plays up the fantasy. Possibly lying to this poor sap. He provides her money over time. We all know the story. He finds out she's lying to him and well, it doesn't end well. Safe to say that this is a worst-case scenario for falling for a girl and definitely a word to the wise.

Type 2: We have some bad dudes in this "hobby". I admit that I don't understand the allure of pain and other kinks in that manner. But I think there's at least a percentage that take pleasure in some dark shit. Why I bring it up? Because there are comments written here often that they are "just putas". I think that mindset is dangerous. They are humans just like you and I. I think where you have a combination of a sick sadist and they have access to less than human putas, well, again, that may not end well.

As I said, I think, and hope, that none of us on these boards fit either description. But I feel awareness is a good thing.

I am thinking there is more to the story and most likely type 1. I see the chicas with the latest iPhones and designer bags. Not sure who is paying for the items, but definitely not buying it for them. Just buying their time until the next time. Also she mentioned it was one of her friends "clients" from a long time ago. Not sure if the bros lives far away and is sending gifts and then got the wrong impression or what. I guess it is dangerous for us SoCal bros as we just drive down and walk over the border.

[Member #4730]

As a fellow vet thank you for you service brother!!

Thanks and sorry for the bitter posts, but when she texted me it fucked up my morning. I felt like grabbing my AKs and just emptying a clip. Deal with it everyday and some days better than others, but should take a break as the chicas are so intense. I thought Thailand was good, but these chicas got me loco.

[Member #4730]

Welcome to the Zona. It's a cesspool so it will attract a corresponding audience including unsavory characters. There are lunatics on this board just like there are lunatics in the Zona. Given your pillow case reference, I'll use a movie reference of my own. The tone of your post reminds me of the innocent agent right before Alejandro says, "Welcome to Juarez."

Not a reference, actually boot camp with the people that fall out of runs and continually fuck up the platoon. The group has to either make the weak link stronger or get rid of them.

[SeaBeeJoe]

Yeah, being in the moment is harder as you get older with more responsibilities. People rely on you for their livelihood and some for their housing. When I was a kid, it was easy to just focus on having fun and not having the numerous what-if scenarios running through your head. I try so hard to make sure I live a life worth living as when I was 23 and in Iraq, a soldier in our unit passed away and he was only 19. To this day I still have guilt they didn't get to enjoy more to life.

Whenever I traveled when I was younger I was into photography and tried to take the best photos of the world wonders and forgot I was standing in front of the pyramids or standing on the Great Wall. I was so focused on getting the right frame and settings. Most people here seem to lose focus on what really matters, but to each their own. I guess I have too much time to self reflect after my divorce, but so far enjoying not being nagged incessantly. Enjoy it while it lasts and don't live with regrets.

As a fellow vet thank you for you service brother!!

[SeaBeeJoe]

I'll say this and I truly don't believe anyone on this board fits either of these profiles. But given this incident and others, I wanted to voice my thought. Most guys go to the zona for all the right reasons and the right mindset. It's fun. It's not real life. I think there are two types though that are a bit dangerous. I will preface it with this: no chica deserves to be on the receiving end of any violence. Period. So what I am saying in no way absolves these abusive assholes of responsibility. That said, I do think chicas also play a dangerous game at times too.

Type 1: You have the jealous boyfriend type. The type that falls for a girl and believes he's the one. This type probably starts as a normal, fun-seeking visitor. He finds "the one". She plays up the fantasy. Possibly lying to this poor sap. He provides her money over time. We all know the story. He finds out she's lying to him and well, it doesn't end well. Safe to say that this is a worst-case scenario for falling for a girl and definitely a word to the wise.

Type 2: We have some bad dudes in this "hobby". I admit that I don't understand the allure of pain and other kinks in that manner. But I think there's at least a percentage that take pleasure in some dark shit. Why I bring it up? Because there are comments written here often that they are "just putas". I think that mindset is dangerous. They are humans just like you and I. I think where you have a combination of a sick sadist and they have access to less than human putas, well, again, that may not end well.

As I said, I think, and hope, that none of us on these boards fit either description. But I feel awareness is a good thing.

Yes, I completely agree with you on your 2 types. The Chicas are human being too with feelings, wants and desires just like anyone. Yes they got a fucked up job at times and most do it just to survive since Mexico pays like shit. You can't compare Mexico it to the United States at all, not even close. We are lucky as Americans, most would kill to have the rights we freedoms we enjoy everyday, and I am glad I am an American (better then winning the lottery). I have been fucked over by girls down there in the zona before and it was my choice to return again, I think we all have, it is human nature to be attracted to someone that makes us feel good, I don't hate them I just realize that most of the time they are selling me a fantasy, I do have a few girls I consider my friend and they are great gals we talk about everything when we hook up. I don't go much anymore as I have a girlfriend now and I am trying to be a good boy with her. Anyways it was mostly fun and I don't regret my experiences, overall I learned alot about myself and other people.

[Member #4730]

Man,

That really speaks to me. You and your girl are spot on. That is one of the things that attracts me to Mexicanas. They live in the moment. Americans do forget to stop and smell the roses. There is a lot of negativity on this board over a dollar. We have to appreciate the opportunities and experiences we have. My ex novia would tell me all the time; appreciate what you have. She was the ultimate live in and appreciate the moment. That is both good and bad. LOL But thanks for sharing. Great advice.

Yeah, being in the moment is harder as you get older with more responsibilities. People rely on you for their livelihood and some for their housing. When I was a kid, it was easy to just focus on having fun and not having the numerous what-if scenarios running through your head. I try so hard to make sure I live a life worth living as when I was 23 and in Iraq, a soldier in our unit passed away and he was only 19. To this day I still have guilt they didn't get to enjoy more to life.

Whenever I traveled when I was younger I was into photography and tried to take the best photos of the world wonders and forgot I was standing in front of the pyramids or standing on the Great Wall. I was so focused on getting the right frame and settings. Most people here seem to lose focus on what really matters, but to each their own. I guess I have too much time to self reflect after my divorce, but so far enjoying not being nagged incessantly. Enjoy it while it lasts and don't live with regrets.

[Dcrist0527]

Yes and after reading here of some posters mentality, wouldn't be surprised if it was one of you bitter fucks. Sadly I wish better for their lives and bros here, but they provide a wonderful service at rock bottom prices. Who can't make $100 a day in the USA To be in the company of a hot chica? I am thinking more to story, but maybe hear more when panic and pain subside. Just didn't want to press the issue as she was already distraught. Hope she doesn't go home, but if she does then safe voyage! I am sure more chicas will decide if their life is worth a few dollars due to some crazy Americans.

I'll say this and I truly don't believe anyone on this board fits either of these profiles. But given this incident and others, I wanted to voice my thought. Most guys go to the zona for all the right reasons and the right mindset. It's fun. It's not real life. I think there are two types though that are a bit dangerous. I will preface it with this: no chica deserves to be on the receiving end of any violence. Period. So what I am saying in no way absolves these abusive assholes of responsibility. That said, I do think chicas also play a dangerous game at times too.

Type 1: You have the jealous boyfriend type. The type that falls for a girl and believes he's the one. This type probably starts as a normal, fun-seeking visitor. He finds "the one". She plays up the fantasy. Possibly lying to this poor sap. He provides her money over time. We all know the story. He finds out she's lying to him and well, it doesn't end well. Safe to say that this is a worst-case scenario for falling for a girl and definitely a word to the wise.

Type 2: We have some bad dudes in this "hobby". I admit that I don't understand the allure of pain and other kinks in that manner. But I think there's at least a percentage that take pleasure in some dark shit. Why I bring it up? Because there are comments written here often that they are "just putas". I think that mindset is dangerous. They are humans just like you and I. I think where you have a combination of a sick sadist and they have access to less than human putas, well, again, that may not end well.

As I said, I think, and hope, that none of us on these boards fit either description. But I feel awareness is a good thing.

[Member #4730]

I don't understand why a bro would want to harm or kill a chica. I mean he might be mentally ill or drugged out, or maybe he is the jealous type. Whatever the reason going to Mexican prison is completely not worth it. I will admit my good times in the zona far outweigh any of my bad times. I have had one chica in the past assault me in the bar, but I was upset at the time and we were both calling each other bad names, so in effect I deserved what I got, smacked in the face by her and a 3 month ban from the club (she got a 7 day ban) and since then me and that chica don't speak anymore. After that I tried not to take shit so serious in the zona, if I found I was not having any fun anymore I just took time off from that place until I felt I could return. Believe me I was going 6 or 7 times a week, that is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much zona for any man..... Remember the chicas are for fun and to satisfy yourself, don't take anything with them too serious as they know tons of guys so it is just your "turn" thats all. Anyways guys have fun, be safe, and return to fuck another day. Last thing your friend can look at this webpage for info, I think that girl will have to prove she lived with the guy to get a visa but i am not sure.

https://www.uscis.gov/es/residencia-permanente-tarjeta-verde/categorias-de-elegibilidad-a-la-residencia-permanente/residencia-permanente-para-autopeticionario-vawa

Exactly! Try to keep your cool in a foreign country as not sure of your immunity regarding crimes. We are all not Hunter Biden so just chill the fuck out and enjoy yourself. Like gambling or investing, set a limit and then if you spend it all, then go home. Know your limit is and have as much fun as you can within your budget. Don't fall in love, like in Thailand they have a 3 day rule. I'm not too worried about the visa and not providing my name for her to get entry just in case shit goes sideways. I just want NSA fun and she shows up and we have fun. If she can't figure out how to get the visa, then I'll just go solo and not spend the extra expense of food and flights. They are after all casino cruises so they probably want me to play BJ for min. 4 hours a day. In Vegas I pull all nighters. I'm just too much of a degenerate I guess, but we all have vices and glad mine isn't coke or heroin. Have fun and stay safe!

[Member #4730]

Wow that's horrible. Was this just last night?

Yes and after reading here of some posters mentality, wouldn't be surprised if it was one of you bitter fucks. Sadly I wish better for their lives and bros here, but they provide a wonderful service at rock bottom prices. Who can't make $100 a day in the USA To be in the company of a hot chica? I am thinking more to story, but maybe hear more when panic and pain subside. Just didn't want to press the issue as she was already distraught. Hope she doesn't go home, but if she does then safe voyage! I am sure more chicas will decide if their life is worth a few dollars due to some crazy Americans.

[SeaBeeJoe]

Got a text from a regular that said one of her friends texted her that she needed help on the 6th floor, then they texted back they were fine. She followed up, but the phone was off and security and the girls went to look for their friend. They heard screaming and security found the client was strangling and trying to hang one of the chicas. One of my regulars was obviously so distraught that I got a text at 4 in the morning. Some bros really have some issues. The client is from the US and regular said that security was pulverizing the guy which made her even more nervous. Guess it is going to scare some chicas from bar life. Stay safe and treat them right or might end up in the dumpster.

Really questioning meeting any bros from here as a chica has never tried to kill me, but maybe junior. Hopefully it isnt anyone on this board. We all get to give you the pillow case filled with soap treatment. Advice is to party, have fun, and then take your baggage back home with you. Not sure if Mexican prison is worth whatever he was envisioning. Positive from story is her friend is ok and she is going to research on how to get a visa for U.S. travel.

I don't understand why a bro would want to harm or kill a chica. I mean he might be mentally ill or drugged out, or maybe he is the jealous type. Whatever the reason going to Mexican prison is completely not worth it. I will admit my good times in the zona far outweigh any of my bad times. I have had one chica in the past assault me in the bar, but I was upset at the time and we were both calling each other bad names, so in effect I deserved what I got, smacked in the face by her and a 3 month ban from the club (she got a 7 day ban) and since then me and that chica don't speak anymore. After that I tried not to take shit so serious in the zona, if I found I was not having any fun anymore I just took time off from that place until I felt I could return. Believe me I was going 6 or 7 times a week, that is waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much zona for any man..... Remember the chicas are for fun and to satisfy yourself, don't take anything with them too serious as they know tons of guys so it is just your "turn" thats all. Anyways guys have fun, be safe, and return to fuck another day. Last thing your friend can look at this webpage for info, I think that girl will have to prove she lived with the guy to get a visa but i am not sure.

https://www.uscis.gov/es/residencia-permanente-tarjeta-verde/categorias-de-elegibilidad-a-la-residencia-permanente/residencia-permanente-para-autopeticionario-vawa

[LuvMexicanas]

Got a text from a regular that said one of her friends texted her that she needed help on the 6th floor, then they texted back they were fine. She followed up, but the phone was off and security and the girls went to look for their friend. They heard screaming and security found the client was strangling and trying to hang one of the chicas. One of my regulars was obviously so distraught that I got a text at 4 in the morning. Some bros really have some issues. The client is from the US and regular said that security was pulverizing the guy which made her even more nervous. Guess it is going to scare some chicas from bar life. Stay safe and treat them right or might end up in the dumpster.

Really questioning meeting any bros from here as a chica has never tried to kill me, but maybe junior. Hopefully it isnt anyone on this board. We all get to give you the pillow case filled with soap treatment. Advice is to party, have fun, and then take your baggage back home with you. Not sure if Mexican prison is worth whatever he was envisioning. Positive from story is her friend is ok and she is going to research on how to get a visa for U.S. travel.

Welcome to the Zona. It's a cesspool so it will attract a corresponding audience including unsavory characters. There are lunatics on this board just like there are lunatics in the Zona. Given your pillow case reference, I'll use a movie reference of my own. The tone of your post reminds me of the innocent agent right before Alejandro says, "Welcome to Juarez."

[OrganicAlo]

Got a text from a regular that said one of her friends texted her that she needed help on the 6th floor, then they texted back they were fine. She followed up, but the phone was off and security and the girls went to look for their friend. They heard screaming and security found the client was strangling and trying to hang one of the chicas. One of my regulars was obviously so distraught that I got a text at 4 in the morning. Some bros really have some issues. The client is from the US and regular said that security was pulverizing the guy which made her even more nervous. Guess it is going to scare some chicas from bar life. Stay safe and treat them right or might end up in the dumpster.

Really questioning meeting any bros from here as a chica has never tried to kill me, but maybe junior. Hopefully it isnt anyone on this board. We all get to give you the pillow case filled with soap treatment. Advice is to party, have fun, and then take your baggage back home with you. Not sure if Mexican prison is worth whatever he was envisioning. Positive from story is her friend is ok and she is going to research on how to get a visa for U.S. travel.

Wow that's horrible. Was this just last night?