Medellin Reports

[Recondite]

I'd say you have some power online on Facebook of Tinder in terms of the story you tell with your profile pictures and profile. So it's not always 2000 to one odds with attractive girls if your profile sticks out from the crowd. A good profile enhances what you have to work with and tells a narrative about you will help you stick out. The story you tell could be "I'm rich", or "I'm a world traveler / adventurous", or "I'm edgy" or as many of you do "I live or spend lots of time in Medellin". I was just watching the Tinder Swindler on Netflix last night. It's gives some interesting insights in what grabs some women's attention on tinder etc.

In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.

[RonaldoV7191]

Hello fellow Mongers!

Am a junior monger finally got a pass from wife going to Medellin.

I read la Isla and Loutron have top shelf. Can you share pricing anyone tried it?

Any tips are welcome also will do a quick 2 days in Cartagena.

Thanks.

[Elvis 2008]

I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.

When I was an American sugar daddy and was down to never be monogamous, and always had may, that would happen a lot. A girl would not just bring a girl in to replace her but show up for a threesome. She enhanced her friendship to the girl by introducing her to me and also putting $$$ in her pocket. However, this was enhanced P4P.

So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.

It would if I tried in the USA but in the USA I was trying to temper down expectations as the women there have no limit to what they would ask for.

I dressed up in the Latin countries and was selling a lifestyle in the Latin countries selling the notion if you go with me, we will stay in hotels like this and eat at high end place and go to high end resorts. It was a notion of if you fuck me, all your dreams will come true and for some girls, it either happened or almost did.

With the American women, they were willing to share. It was just money for sex, but when I took vacations with women in the Latin counties, they were not willing. They wanted it for themselves. Some even had boyfriends and left them behind.

JJBee kind of gets to the truth. There are more ways to attract women that just money and looks, but they are the easiest for them to spot. He even talks about being a safe place for women, and you can get them that way, and I have, but you are not anyone's first choice if you are just safe.

There is a difference between attracting and keeping them. The second part was always easier for me, even when it was just dry sex for money. To keep women, you have to show them a good time.

What do women want? Well, even if the women do not use social media to show off, they want a life where if they posted on social media, it would drive the friends green with envy.

[ColombiaLover]

I stopped seeing most 8 and 9's a while back, because I was not getting a great experience for the inflated price they wanted. Basically, I was paying to bang the body, the make-up and the surgeries. I am sure there are exceptions who perform decently with the right guy, but surely at a price. A price which some will pay and some won't if they believe they can get something better with a 6 or 7 (my situation, as I like girls next door, not plastics). I agree that high end girls are often difficult to nail down, as they get a lot of messages, they probably have several sugar daddies, and they just feel like their shit doesn't stink.

While most women do want to fuck, not all of them want to fuck you or me or feel good when fucking for money. Some do, some don't. And there are some women where sex is not important to them (I can think of at least one very well known prepago who does her best to avoid as much sex as she can. And prefer to drink and eat on the gringos dime).

I am glad you have gotten good service from 8's and 9's. I suspect you are in the minority on that one. Of course, your vision of an 8 or 9 might be different from mine, which has been well discussed here.

I would add that most 8's and 9's you find are, in fact, hardened pros. Which goes back to the non-GFE / too many rules / performance issues. How many 8's and 9's are mongers pursuing who are not prepagos / putas / escorts / semi-pros or whatever you want to call them? I agree that if you can find a try 8/9 who is not into sex for money and is not otherwise self-absorbed, you could have a good time. But I don't have that kind of time. I already spend a lot of time cultivating chicas on FB. With some girls, I have met them through cousins or friends and have had to wait years to have them (because of age). But it was worth the wait. Because they were pretty fresh. I am waiting for another who turns 18 in April. Cousin of a girl I was banging quite regularly 4-6 years ago.

You guys make a wrong assumption thinking that if she is a 9 her performance in bed will definitely suck. This assumption also makes you settle for less without even trying to hit on gorgeous girls. I have not had many 8's and 9's in my life, but I had a few, and never got an attitude or shitty performance from any of them, the best sex in my life, say top 5 in terms of performance, has always been with 8's and 9's. Just imagine, you are fucking a smoking hot girl and she is into you, and the sex is passionate and hot, and you are in heaven. This is what every monger should aim for. The real problem with 8's and 9's is not the performance (why would it be different? Hot or not, they are all human beings and love to fuck), the problem is as follows: 1. They are difficult to find. 2. Once you find them, it is difficult to grab their attention or to get a reply, if online. 3. Once they reply, it is hard to negotiate a price / terms. 4. The last one, it is hard to actually meet in person, because they flake or ghost you. But once you get to that point of meeting, her performance should not be an issue if you treat her right, have a good hygiene, etc. And if GFE is what you are looking for, don't go for escorts and hardened pros, otherwise you will have issues described in the recent post. This doesn't have to do anything with the looks, you could fuck an average looking Parque Lleras girl and get equally shitty service, I think we all have been there, done that. My point is that don't assume just because she is hot, you will get disappointed in bed, just don't bother with escorts.

[JjBee62]

I am talking about getting her attention over the other 1,999.

I've covered that in the past. My last trip I flew to Bogota. We were just passing Medellin just after sunset and I had a perfect view of the city, with the streetlights all lit and all the colors in the sky. I snapped a picture and posted it on Facebook. Over the next 2 days 59 Medellin girls liked it and about 25 messaged me, wanting to meet. That's without sending a message to anyone.

I could also just post a question like "Quien quiere visitarme en Poblado" (or Laureles, Envigado wherever) and have 50 to 100 messaging me. There are endless variations on the theme. Post something enticing on Facebook and watch the feeding frenzy begin.

Then you just weed through the ones who responded. And there's always the friend list. Send as many messages as you want. "Hola. Estoy en Medellin esta semana. Como estas? Quiero verte. " Send that to as many as you want. I expect and get about a 70% response rate. 10 messages, 7 dates.

In 15 minutes or less you can easily fill your calendar for the next week.

It gets even easier with repetition. Girls will hit you up wondering when you'll be back. Some will refer you to friends or even cousins and sisters. More girls will send a friend request. I don't even look for girls anymore. On rare occasions there will be one I really want to see, so I'll initiate a conversation. For the majority, I have plenty of regulars and plenty of girls who are contacting me.

If I went back to spend another year in Medellin, I could just see the girls who initiated the conversation with me, have 2 every day and never need to repeat with 1 or go searching for 1.

The great thing is, anyone can do the same thing.

[JjBee62]

In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.

The same applies. I have several women who I met online and established something more than a simple P4P transaction.

[Mr Enternational]

To clarify, I am referring to this post.

I think you are talking about this.

I am talking about getting her attention over the other 1,999.

[Nounce]

Easy. The first message you should send is, "When can you meet me in Laureles?" If you are in town and ready, that 2000 to 1 goes quickly to about 15 to 1 with one message. Skip the pleasantries.

To clarify, I am referring to this post.

...When she has 2000 men all wanting to fuck her, negotiating a price is indeed difficult...

I think you are talking about this.

...When you have 2,000 women all wanting to see you, negotiating a price is simple....

[Mr Enternational]

In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.

Easy. The first message you should send is, "When can you meet me in Laureles?" If you are in town and ready, that 2000 to 1 goes quickly to about 15 to 1 with one message. Skip the pleasantries.

[Nounce]

...Fortunately, there's another way. You can always get the top girls if you can talk with them...

In person meeting is different. I am talking about online dating where men get into asymmetry situation like 2000 to 1.

[Osteoknot]

I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.

I wonder why? Jajajajajajaaaa.

[Osteoknot]

Once you're fluent the teacher and the blowjobs go away.

I am not connecting those dots in the same way.

[JjBee62]

I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.

Once you're fluent the teacher and the blowjobs go away.

[Jimbox]

I was trying to be helpful but I could have gotten my facts wrong. I was there. I experienced it. My Spanish is good enough to comprehend it. I even asked the chicas I was with at the time if there were different prices on different days, because I did not think their answer made sense the first time and they said "no". Probably, I fucked up. Been known to happen, more than once or twice. I am a Truth Seeker so misinformation cuts me like a knife. Thanks for the help. Lesson learned.

I would've expect your Spanish to be great by now. If my French teacher was giving me BJs I would be fluent in French.

[JjBee62]

I already analyzed about situation like yours. You need to be cream of the crop to date cream of the crop. In reality, men likely are dating the lower tier relatively speaking in online dating situation. The reason you are getting it is because you are sharing it. I know someone who does not have problem getting what he wants. He has money but little time so he always line up several girls a day. His deal with girls involves luxury items and cash. When a girl can't make it, the girl introduce another smoking hot girl as replacement. He is not handsome but his generosity makes him the cream of the crop.

So I am wondering why Elvis wears a suit, now it all makes sense.

Have you been to Scandallo? Many think that place has enough 10's. All you have to do is willing to pay for it.

You don't necessarily have to be the best looking man to get the best looking girls. There are 3 paths to get the best looking women. If you have the money and are willing to spend it, you can buy your way to the top. If you don't have the money, but have the looks, you can get to the top.

Fortunately, there's another way. You can always get the top girls if you can talk with them. That means you need to be able to listen to them and to be interested in what they are saying. While most women will go for a man who has plenty of money, or who is great looking, what they really want is someone who they can really open up to.

I'm not sure if I've told this story here before. I think it started in 2000 and lasted to 2002. I started spending a lot of time at the best local strip club. I spent quite a bit of money, but I didn't spend enough to get the girls to come home with me.

One day there were only a few other customers in the club. One of the top dancers sat down at my table and we started talking. We had some mutual interests and I'm a good listener. She gave me her website address. She was hoping I would pay for some of the videos on her website. Instead I looked it over and looked for ways to make it better. The next time I saw her in the club, I asked questions and gave her some recommendations. From that point on, she always took time to sit and talk with me.

And all I did was talk and listen. I didn't try to get a date or anything else, just normal conversations. Before long other dancers were coming to sit with me. They couldn't figure out why one of the girls who made the most money would be sitting with me. Was I a drug dealer giving free samples? Was I rich? No. But I was a person they could sit with and feel comfortable. The funny thing, I was spending less money than I was spending before.

I ended up getting 5 dancers and 1 waitress in my bed. I went out with another 5 and 4 different dancers rented a room in my house.