Stupid Shit in Kyiv

[Jmsuttr]

Russia gets million from selling oil and gas, they can use another third country (like Iran or so) to buy Chinese equipment and skip sanctions, will see what happens.

Sanctions evasion is absolutely happening, of that I have no doubt. But the question is what items are slipping through the cracks and whether it's happening on a large enough scale to make a material difference. It's also important to consider how far a country is willing to stick its neck out for Russia.

Take China, for example, while they talk about "partnership" with Russia, there's no evidence they're helping Russia militarily. And that's probably because that would risk their relationship with Europe and the West. And China needs the West much more than it needs Russia. Also, the kinds of items that would be important are pretty well tracked. And it's unlikely that advanced technology of value would be sold to either China or Iran. And, when it comes to military tech, Russia has generally been considered to be at a higher level, or at least on par, with China's. Not sure exactly what China has to offer, even if they were inclined to do so.

Since sanctions evasion happens away from the public eye, maybe the best indicator is what's happening inside Russia itself. From every report I'm seeing, Russia is running short of precision munitions and has had to shut down tank and missile factories. I agree that time will tell, although I don't think time is on Russia's side.

[Jmsuttr]

For all you flyover country cowboys and Gotham shtetl crawlers, we hear ya.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AVf7m_YZ2zY

Nuthin', zero, zip, nada.

Not sure what kind of delusional world you inhabit in which you think that a random YouTube video link, posted by you, would be of general interest.

Pray tell, is it a home video of Hitler celebrating his birthday in a bunker?

[Jmsuttr]

Great post. I post about MDE because it is shit-hole, but you probably like the place. The difference between Kiev and MDE. 10-15 years ago Kiev was an amazing place, full of energy, great food, fun, amazing night-life, , great theater, good weather and many other wonderful things. Then corruption took over and unfortunately the country fell apart. I really doubt MDE was ever good, unless you have terribly low standards, you like bad service and even worse food. I can go on. If you like cheap sex was average girls and very curvy, then go. I am sure Bogota is much better, but both are very dangerous and full of drugs.

In my response to Pedro M, the only reason I mentioned Medellin was because he (Pedro M) was complaining about "Stupid Shit" threads while actively posting in SS threads in both the Kiev and Medellin forums.

So my only reason for posting about MDE at all was for the purpose of pointing out Pedro M's blatant hypocrisy, nothing more.

[Jmsuttr]

When your country is destroyed, sorry that is not a win. They will never get into NATO because of the corruption. Yes, both Russia and Ukraine are screwed. Especially they every day people.

Much of Europe was destroyed in WW-II. It took years of investment and reconstruction, but it was rebuilt. Ukraine already has many commitments for such reconstruction efforts.

Besides, Ukraine has no choice in the matter. Russia is the one who chose the path of destruction, not Ukraine. All Ukrainians are doing is defending themselves as best they can. And, hopefully with Western weapons and support, they can kick the Russians out of most or all of their territory.

So, while I understand your general sentiment, unless you have another solution, the Ukrainians are doing the best they can with the shitty cards they've been dealt.

As far as NATO is concerned, I'm guessing Ukraine will be allowed to enter the EU and that some set of security guarantees will be crafted that don't necessarily depend on NATO membership. Besides, the primary reason for NATO's existence is to counterbalance threats from Russia. If the end result of this war is that Russia is severely weakened and can no longer pose a credible threat to Ukraine, then that problem will be substantially solved.

There are no good answers, obviously, because the best answer would be for the war to have never started. Since that's passed out of the realm of possibility, the only options left are those that deal squarely with the reality of the situation, such as it is.

[WyattEarp]

When you're being attacked by a bigger, more powerful opponent, not losing is the equivalent of a win. Hanging in there while the bully exhausts himself gives you a chance to strike back when the opportunity presents itself.

Ukraine didn't choose this war, Russia did. And Ukraine doesn't have the luxury of dictating terms and conditions. The best they can do is roll with the punch. And, with the support they're receiving from NATO and the West, they now have a fighting chance. Every piece of eqp lost by Russia will be difficult or impossible to replace. Every Ukraine loss is being replaced by weapons that are even newer and better.

Jmsuttr, I was reading how a country like India buys a lot of military hardware from both Russia and the West. If countries see Russian military hardware underperforming in battle they might adjust their purchases. This war can't be good for future Russia's military exports.

India has always played a decent game of neutrality. However, Indian elites are definitely Western-oriented. Too many affluent Indian ex-pats in the United States, United Kingdom, Canada, etc. The Indians are also watching this dance between China and Russia. Needless to say, China is India's rival economically and militarily in the region.

[Ringudor]

Every piece of eqp lost by Russia will be difficult or impossible to replace. Every Ukraine loss is being replaced by weapons that are even newer and better.

Russia gets million from selling oil and gas, they can use another third country (like Iran or so) to buy Chinese equipment and skip sanctions, will see what happens.

[Golfinho]

For all you flyover country cowboys and Gotham shtetl crawlers, we hear ya.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AVf7m_YZ2zY

[DramaFree11]

And he's on shaky ground. Oh wait, it's not the ground that's shaking, it's Little Vlad's uncontrollable hand, leg, and foot tremors! How sad it must be for Russians who crave a strong leader to witness Putin's obviously failing health. As I understand it, diseases like Parkinson's can impact cognitive abilities and exacerbate irrational behavior. That certainly explains a lot, doesn't it? I wouldn't be surprised if there are some elites snickering in the background and making jokes! I'd be tempted to feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a murderous thug.

No matter, there's not a single metric by which Russia isn't worse off now than before Feb 24th. And, in direct contrast, the influence of US-led NATO is increasing in Europe by leaps and bounds. The West has never been more united and America hasn't been this welcomed in Europe since WW-II.

Most likely scenario: Finland + Sweden in NATO, Ukraine in the EU, and Russia in the shitter.

Oh, and about Mariupol? Russian propaganda-mongers have proclaimed "victory" on a daily basis for more than a month now. So how come they still need to drop bombs on "conquered" territory? I'm guessing there are some Russian generals who are pissing themselves right now because they're frantic to have something they can pretend is a "victory" by May 9th.

Great post. I post about MDE because it is shit-hole, but you probably like the place. The difference between Kiev and MDE. 10-15 years ago Kiev was an amazing place, full of energy, great food, fun, amazing night-life, , great theater, good weather and many other wonderful things. Then corruption took over and unfortunately the country fell apart. I really doubt MDE was ever good, unless you have terribly low standards, you like bad service and even worse food. I can go on. If you like cheap sex was average girls and very curvy, then go. I am sure Bogota is much better, but both are very dangerous and full of drugs.

[DramaFree11]

Fixed that for you.

When your country is destroyed, sorry that is not a win. They will never get into NATO because of the corruption. Yes, both Russia and Ukraine are screwed. Especially they every day people.

[Jmsuttr]

Nobody is winning. This is a total mess. The war needs to end yesterday, somebody needs to win.

When you're being attacked by a bigger, more powerful opponent, not losing is the equivalent of a win. Hanging in there while the bully exhausts himself gives you a chance to strike back when the opportunity presents itself.

Ukraine didn't choose this war, Russia did. And Ukraine doesn't have the luxury of dictating terms and conditions. The best they can do is roll with the punch. And, with the support they're receiving from NATO and the West, they now have a fighting chance. Every piece of eqp lost by Russia will be difficult or impossible to replace. Every Ukraine loss is being replaced by weapons that are even newer and better.

[Jmsuttr]

Sweden is already de facto a NATO member. Finland is a different case. Its pipsqueak naval exercises with the Baltic pimples this month won't amount to much.

The problem in Europe is Americans. Americans do not belong here or anywhere else for that matter. Europe will not improve until it is open season on Americans and Americans are recognized as the genocidal maniacs that they are. Think Vietnam war.

Your Nazi filth remain trapped in the Azov steel works, along with their American commanders. Most of Ukraine's army is bogged down in its east. My own opinion is Russia have given them plenty of warning and they should now unleash hell on them, just as American filth did in Iraq and elsewhere..

And he's on shaky ground. Oh wait, it's not the ground that's shaking, it's Little Vlad's uncontrollable hand, leg, and foot tremors! How sad it must be for Russians who crave a strong leader to witness Putin's obviously failing health. As I understand it, diseases like Parkinson's can impact cognitive abilities and exacerbate irrational behavior. That certainly explains a lot, doesn't it? I wouldn't be surprised if there are some elites snickering in the background and making jokes! I'd be tempted to feel sorry for him if he wasn't such a murderous thug.

No matter, there's not a single metric by which Russia isn't worse off now than before Feb 24th. And, in direct contrast, the influence of US-led NATO is increasing in Europe by leaps and bounds. The West has never been more united and America hasn't been this welcomed in Europe since WW-II.

Most likely scenario: Finland + Sweden in NATO, Ukraine in the EU, and Russia in the shitter.

Oh, and about Mariupol? Russian propaganda-mongers have proclaimed "victory" on a daily basis for more than a month now. So how come they still need to drop bombs on "conquered" territory? I'm guessing there are some Russian generals who are pissing themselves right now because they're frantic to have something they can pretend is a "victory" by May 9th.

Better hurry up, Comrades, that date is only about a week away! And LilliPutin is not in a forgiving mood.

P.S. About Stupid Shit threads, for someone who claims to be above them you certainly post in them a lot. Not just here, but in Medellin, etc. How hilarious it is for the pig to bad mouth the muck he rolls around in (LOL).

[VinDici]

Nobody is winning. This is a total mess. The war needs to end yesterday, Ukraine needs to win.

Fixed that for you.

[DramaFree11]

That's because the Russians are losing. They're losing the war on the battlefield, they're losing the war of public opinion, they're losing their economy, their money, their lifestyles, their soul and their mind. With Finland joining NATO, they're about to lose that one thing they've been fighting for so hard. Keeping the block from expanding to its borders.

Oh well! It's hard to root for a loser.

Nobody is winning. This is a total mess. The war needs to end yesterday, somebody needs to win.

[PedroMorales]

Sweden is already de facto a NATO member. Finland is a different case. Its pipsqueak naval exercises with the Baltic pimples this month won't amount to much.

The problem in Europe is Americans. Americans do not belong here or anywhere else for that matter. Europe will not improve until it is open season on Americans and Americans are recognized as the genocidal maniacs that they are. Think Vietnam war.

Your Nazi filth remain trapped in the Azov steel works, along with their American commanders. Most of Ukraine's army is bogged down in its east. My own opinion is Russia have given them plenty of warning and they should now unleash hell on them, just as American filth did in Iraq and elsewhere.

But I am not on the Russian command staff.

I have other things to do than argue with brain dead Americans here all day long. No wonder these threads are called Stupid Shit. Stupid Americans might be more apt.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ts-2022-04-25/

Where did all the Putin-loving posters go? I'd love for them to explain how this is all part of Little Vlad's masterful (sarc) plan!

[Karlgnter2]

That's because the Russians are losing. They're losing the war on the battlefield, they're losing the war of public opinion, they're losing their economy, their money, their lifestyles, their soul and their mind. With Finland joining NATO, they're about to lose that one thing they've been fighting for so hard. Keeping the block from expanding to its borders.

Oh well! It's hard to root for a loser.

Yes, it was a mistake for Russians to engage in a war with Ukraine and in the near future they will realize that this stupid decision of there's is going to bring a number of negative outcomes.