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05-18-22 08:58 #16015
Posts: 10Bats is open, but not really busy yet. Might be because there is still not many bules around.
Originally Posted by RedRobin3092 [View Original Post]
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05-17-22 17:01 #16014
Posts: 21Bats
Can somebody confirm if BATS is back to normal? How is the scene? Do they still have ladies nights on Wednesdays? Planning to visit next month.
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05-17-22 12:01 #16013
Posts: 279No need to spoil the market for the rest of us
Originally Posted by Gonz0 [View Original Post]
By giving them 200 or 300 K for almost nothing in return other than you feeling emotional and sorry for their perceived income, service quality will drop significantly for the next bule they come across.
I am beginning to understand why there is a need to keep non-mainstream brothels hush-hush and not here on a public forum.
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05-17-22 11:38 #16012
Posts: 60Originally Posted by ClassicJakarta [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Cucumber [View Original Post]
If management has no expectation about how much you tip, then how can it be said that there is a minimum tip? Where does this minimum tip information come from?
Am I misunderstanding this?
Originally Posted by Cucumber [View Original Post]
Do you show her the money?
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05-16-22 20:50 #16011
Posts: 543Originally Posted by ClassicJakarta [View Original Post]
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05-16-22 17:37 #16010
Posts: 311Tipping
Originally Posted by Gonz0 [View Original Post]
Management has no expectation for how much you should tip. It is an issue to be resolved between you (your willingness to pay) and the girl (her performance) and ultimately it is up to you. This way the girls have an incentive to perform well, which is in everybody's interest. But remember she makes almost nothing from the basic fee, most of that goes to the establishment. So almost all of her income comes from whatever you decide to tip her. 300 k IDR is 21 US $. Plus maybe 10 US $ or something like that from the basic fee. That is not a lot of money for letting a stranger, usually older and less attractive guy, use your body. And of course the girls come from poverty and need every cent.
As I have written here before, I find it highly advantageous to be transparent tell her before the session: "good service, good tip; very good service, very good tip; very, very good service, very very good tip. Bad service, no tip". This doesn't always work, but often it does and it has sometimes given me some unbelievable performances. If she has a feeling you are a cheap charlie, she is going to be much less likely to put in a good effort.
A possible misunderstanding is that the girl may think "service" specifically means blowjob. I am not actually that preoccupied with blowjobs, so I also state up front some of the things I want, usually including passionate DFK and DATY. More kinky stuff I initiate more spontaneously in the session, and then it is up to her whether she wants to go for the big tip (and / or whether we happen to enjoy the same things). That is things like anal play (but not actual anal sex in Indonesia, their anuses are mostly too small), face sitting, drinking saliva, exchange of golden showers, rimming each other. If she ticks all of those boxes, but above all if she succeeds in giving me a feeling that she is really enjoying the sex and likes me, we're in the really big tip range, potentially a million. Paying a 19-year old with a pretty face and a perfect body a 70 buck tip to do those things I consider a bargain.
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05-16-22 11:26 #16009
Posts: 248Originally Posted by Cucumber [View Original Post]
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05-15-22 15:20 #16008
Posts: 60Originally Posted by Gonz0 [View Original Post]
If Malioboro management expect customers to pay a minimum 300 k tip, then they must expect their girls to provide a decent standard of service.
If a girl just gets naked and is a starfish, has she earned the minimum 300 k tip?
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05-15-22 14:35 #16007
Posts: 10Just as a reference, most locals in Jakarta tip 50 to 100 k.
Originally Posted by Gonz0 [View Original Post]
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05-15-22 14:31 #16006
Posts: 10Bats been open for a few months already but CJs is still closed.
Classic.
Originally Posted by FreakyMango [View Original Post]
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05-15-22 13:39 #16005
Posts: 60Originally Posted by Cucumber [View Original Post]
If a girl just gets naked and is a starfish, should I give her the minimum 300k tip?
Where does this standard minimum tip amount come from? Are others here in agreement with this amount?
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05-15-22 09:04 #16004
Posts: 311Malioboro
Originally Posted by United1 [View Original Post]
I believe there is a proper spa section on the lower floors of the part you were in, though I have never gone to those floors myself (I always go straight for the girls).
You missed the other part of Malioboro. You were in the part closest to the street. There is another part at the back, further away from the street. It has its own entrance. It is also possible to cross between the two parts by going up a few floors and through some corridors. You can get someone there to show you the way. In the part at the back, it is more like a proper night club, with loud music, a bit dark, lots of dancers, girls who only keep you company, girls to take to room etc. There are some roaming girls there who do lady drinks. They are the hottest girls I have seen in Jakarta. Unbelievably attractive. But you will run up a huge lady drink bill with them very fast and they cost over 3 million to take to the room.
In general you will spend a lot more money at Malioboro than at Classic or Travel. Malioboro is a bit more "upmarket", but the sexual experience is not necessarily better. At Classic and Travel service is unpredictable, but what does it matter when you can go through three girls for the price of one. I also find that it is more difficult to interact with girls at Malioboro than at Classic.
Rooms at Malioboro, Classic and Travel don't have windows. But they are squeaky clean.
I don't know why you are so worried about security. Indonesia is generally very safe, safer than many places in Europe, and places like Malioboro, Classic and Travel are the safest of all within the Indonesian context. Including taxis outside (though they will refuse to use the meter and you need to negotiate a price in advance. The only thing to watch out for is lady drinks, but you have to understand that the whole point of lady drinks is a kind of tongue in cheek game to press up your expenditure. Almost like a competition between the girl and you. "See if you can resist me. " And yes, the bill in Malioboro is always a bit higher than one expects. In Classic and Travel it is usually spot on and they are even more transparent about pricing.
The girl gets a very low share of the official price tag and everybody is expected to tip. 300 000 is a standard minimum tip. Anything below that is a punishment for bad service. If the girl is nice and makes an effort, more could be paid, up to 6-700 000 if it was really fantastic. More if you fall in love, even just for a little while.
To one of the other posters on the forum: to send a girl back because she has saggy tits or something like that is really cruel. Remember they are humans, they have feelings, they are in a desperate economic situation and they are doing very dangerous work to satisfy you. Treat them nice. And as somebody else wrote, if you don't want a girl who has had a baby, ask BOTH the mamasan and the girl before taking the girl. The mamasan may say yes, yes but not really know. Also remember you never have to do what the mamasan says. She is pushy because she is competing against other mamasans, but this does not mean that her pushiness represents the authority of the institution.
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05-15-22 07:31 #16003
Posts: 248Originally Posted by OffshoreSwell [View Original Post]
Onward,
U1.
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05-15-22 03:46 #16002
Posts: 29Bats
Can anyone update whether Bats and CJ still open as pickup locations?
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05-14-22 23:24 #16001
Posts: 489Originally Posted by United1 [View Original Post]