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  1. #55318

    Live & LEARN, maybe

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    If you take away the age, that is basically what Elvis is doing and I think Elvis is probably doing better. I also think he is paying more then the rent.

    If it is a member here doing the same thing as the old man, what do you expect the reaction to be? Older age does not make him immune to bad things.
    LOL you guys could learn from Elvis if you would get out of your preconception / misconception & judgmental worlds. After only a few yeas outside of sex prisons. Our brains still still carry that BS inside. Elvis is my hero!

    But who cares it's not my business.

  2. #55317

    Facts

    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Not saying all girls are like this, but there are plenty of chicas out there with low self esteem who will hang with any dude who shows them such attention. Whether or not a guy pays directly with cash is not a black and white issue, especially in Colombia, where these chica are on continuum of Pay 4 Play. Some chicas will dig you enough to fuck you for free, at least at first. Using direct payment as a measure of whether or not a relationship is "valid" is full of loopholes. If you see a girl repeatedly and you never show her one sign of sharing or giving, I guarantee you will be replaced. Sometimes it takes a little time for the chica to see your cheap ass for what it really is, then the relationship ends.

    Speaking of which, at my current rate of new wet holes over time, I will die with having been with way more regular "normal" girlfriends that prepago. But I like the pay-for-play option for convenience and the ease of variety. Paying for sex is an individual decision and we all settle for what we are willing to accept. Comparisons are futile. Trust me, there are plenty of girls out there who will never consider a guy who can't pay. The "pool" of girls available to a guy adjusts to the girls' payment threshold.

    This becomes an automatic self-selecting process that guys rationalize in their head by categorizing the girls they can't have as ones they don't want.

    My ex-wife, who I know loved me as much as anyone could, told me at the beginning of our relationship, "I ain't going to fall in love with no broke $**ger". That set the stage but certainly didn't make her a sex worker or lessen the value of our time together. We all pay.
    Osteo. With all due respect. With the stories you tell and the pictures you send you sound and look a little crazy but then I read these post from you and I'm like "This man is a genius".

  3. #55316
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    Yes, Continental you are correct. In addition to your experience, there is the well known case of the uniformed law enforcement official who was caught on camera smoking weed in a cable car. The video was widely shared on social media and the national media outlets. It's beside the point but it later emerged that the party guy was in fact a probationary trainee rather than a full fledged officer. The point is there is video surveillance so you should not do anything you would not want to be put on blast.
    Got a link to that? Because my search turns up nothing. Well except for 1 thing. Seems strange that they have cameras that can detect someone smoking pot, but can't detect someone making a porn video. You're usually spot on, but you're way off this time.

    https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.p...h618eae16d3e8e

  4. #55315
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    So we are going with hidden cameras? Is that the correct conclusion? Worth noting. That's some funny shit.
    Not just hidden. We're talking nanotechnology microscopic Hi-def cameras. They can't afford to put a $5 fan in the cars, but they have the money for $5000 cameras in every single gondola. Of every metrocable line.

    It's time's like me when I can sympathize with the preschool teachers.

  5. #55314
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    Cameras are in so many places in Medellin but not in such an important location as inside the cable cars? Those cable cars are vastly important for transportation and needed for safety of passengers from other passengers and if there is a mechanical problem. I find that really impossible to believe just because you can not see that tiny camera.
    There are several hundred metrocable cars. Other than the door hinges, there is nothing mechanical inside the car. If a passenger attacks another passenger inside the car, what use is a camera? Do they have trained eagles that can carry attack ferrets and drop them on the car, to crawl inside and subdue the attacker? The only place anyone can enter or leave a car, except by breaking the plexiglass and plunging to their death is at a station, which is fully staffed during hours of operation. They can't change the speed of the car.

    In simpler terms there is zero benefit of installing several hundred wireless cameras with UV lighting (because otherwise they're useless after dark), plus hundreds of monitors, not to mention the manpower to simultaneously monitor every single one. It's a publicly supported transportation system. They don't have the money to spend on useless crap. They don't even have fans in the cars. Other than the Tranvia they won't even spend the money to put air conditioning on the trains.

    I've done a photo shoot on the metrocable with a nude webcam model. I've gotten head on the metrocable. I've had a girl's pants around her ankles and her tits out while I fingered her to orgasm on the metrocable. And I even have checked several times for any cameras on my 30 or more trips on every single line. At the very least someone should have noticed.

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  6. #55313
    Is there a condensed version of the should knows / pro tips? I don't have time to look through a few thousand pages of reports.

  7. #55312
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    First, I can't claim to know what Elvis is doing.....
    If you take away the age, that is basically what Elvis is doing and I think Elvis is probably doing better. I also think he is paying more then the rent.

    If it is a member here doing the same thing as the old man, what do you expect the reaction to be? Older age does not make him immune to bad things.

  8. #55311

    I think you're being defensive because you got busted, jajajaja

    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    Well he was either lying to you, or you were seen on one of the cameras in the station. Unless they've invested in invisible cameras, there are no cameras in the individual cars.
    I find it credible and easy to believe that there could be hidden cameras aboard, but that's a pure guess. Could be your answer but I find it hard to believe that a worker at the metro station would go out of his way to "lie" about it to a customer, as you suggested. Maybe the definitive answer will appear soon. Inquiring minds would like to know. I will try to remember to ask next time I ride. I used to ride several times a week when Catgirl lived in San Javier, but not so much anymore.

  9. #55310

    More on payment for sex

    Not saying all girls are like this, but there are plenty of chicas out there with low self esteem who will hang with any dude who shows them such attention. Whether or not a guy pays directly with cash is not a black and white issue, especially in Colombia, where these chica are on continuum of Pay 4 Play. Some chicas will dig you enough to fuck you for free, at least at first. Using direct payment as a measure of whether or not a relationship is "valid" is full of loopholes. If you see a girl repeatedly and you never show her one sign of sharing or giving, I guarantee you will be replaced. Sometimes it takes a little time for the chica to see your cheap ass for what it really is, then the relationship ends.

    Speaking of which, at my current rate of new wet holes over time, I will die with having been with way more regular "normal" girlfriends that prepago. But I like the pay-for-play option for convenience and the ease of variety. Paying for sex is an individual decision and we all settle for what we are willing to accept. Comparisons are futile. Trust me, there are plenty of girls out there who will never consider a guy who can't pay. The "pool" of girls available to a guy adjusts to the girls' payment threshold.

    This becomes an automatic self-selecting process that guys rationalize in their head by categorizing the girls they can't have as ones they don't want.

    My ex-wife, who I know loved me as much as anyone could, told me at the beginning of our relationship, "I ain't going to fall in love with no broke $**ger". That set the stage but certainly didn't make her a sex worker or lessen the value of our time together. We all pay.

    I am not implying that it takes money to be in a happy relationship. Quality of time spent together is probably one of the best things a guy can show a chica, if he cares. I have chicas who would hang with me whether I gifted them or not, but I don't use that as the defining line of how I treat them.

    I know when a chica buys me a pair of chanclas or some candy, that is like me buying her something worth ten times more. It's not about the monetary value, it's about giving and the spirit behind it.

    We all rationalize our own behaviors to fit the model we hold of ourselves, whether accurate or not. That is how the brain manages internal psychological conflict to make it easier to live with ourselves. Most of us are pretty pathetic examples, and to acknowledge that consciously to ourselves can cause depression so the brain does what brains do and molds our self-belief system to protect us from ourselves. Brains do that automatically, on a subconscious level.

    One of my favorite fall-back positions on this topic is the "all other things being equal" point of view. Imagine two guys, exact physical and emotional copies of each other. Clones who acted exactly alike in all situations. Now, one guy pays for sex and the other guy never does. Who do more girls choose, over time? The answer mi amigos is a no-brainer. Whether you agree, like it or loathe it, that is the way things work on this planet.

  10. #55309
    Quote Originally Posted by Combo  [View Original Post]
    You absolutely can hook up with non-hookers in Colombia. If you can do it in the USA, you can likely to it in Colombia. I did it when I first started this hobby a quarter-century ago (in Colombia, Brasil, et al). Unfortunately, I'm not a young stud anymore, so it's not happening unless I want to service 50 year old chicas.

    The thing is, you can't necessary rely on hooking up with non-pros. So you likely will want to have pay-for-play chicas as a backup. This makes sense if you're in town just a week or two and you want to fuck at least once every day. Now, if you're in town for an extended period of time, going after non-pros makes more sense. Though I would still do some prepagos as backups.

    And obviously, language ability will make a huge difference. A prostitute doesn't care if you speak Spanish (she might not even want to talk with you! A non-pro, it's makes a big difference. Even then though, if you look like a young George Clooney, you could still get laid w / o Spanish.
    People thought I was trolling, but I wasn't. I've never thought about paying for sex before (mostly because I'm cheap in regards to that LOL), so this is all new to me.

    Idk what the general age is around here, but I'm in my late 20's. I'll only be in Medellin for about 2 weeks. I've been talking to some non-pros who seem interested (I'm expecting a lot of them to flake, so want to have back up options), but I would say they're in the 7-8 range. I don't think I'm talking to any 9's or 10's.

    I can barely put together a sentence in Spanish.

    Do you guys usually solo adventure in Medellin or go with others? This is my first time in Latin America, and I'm also traveling solo.

  11. #55308
    Quote Originally Posted by Chicago85  [View Original Post]
    Tinder ok, but a higher incidence of issues with girls and flakes. Numerous incidents over the past year of guys getting drugged and 90%+ were from Tinder. Many guys use Facebook as you can see more photos and verify they are who they say they are. Less likely that a girl will build out an entire fake profile on Facebook to rob you than Tinder.
    Ah I see. So I don't use facebook anymore. I'm guessing I would probably look weird if I use a new facebook account to look for women?

    What about IG? I use IG.

  12. #55307
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    Whether or not she has other novios is more than debatable
    Not debatable. Guaranteed. You think some 80 year old foreigner meets her physical, emotional, and social needs? Wake up. My god they are at totally different points in their lives.

  13. #55306
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Unless you are really old and decrepit which I'm sure you're not you should be able to get 30+ year old non-hookers in Colombia and Brazil. In the US though the pickings may be a little more tough and you may indeed have to service 50 year olds.
    First trip to Brasil many moons ago. Landed that morning and after a nap, me and my buddy were walking around getting to know the streets. I see a hot-looking young women and we start talking. I speak Spanish so it was doable, though not perfect. There's obvious mutual attraction. Literally within 20 minutes, we ditched my friend and we're in my hotel room boning. Afterwards, she gave me her number, but I never saw her again. Didn't spend one cent on her! Picked up another girl on the beach later that week for again nothing.

    This was during Carnaval, so that likely helped. Speaking of, if you really want to get non-pros for nothing in Colombia, go to Cali for la Feria. It's sort of like Carnaval in that everyone is looking to party and have fun. I think even an older guy could get a young chica for nothing there during that week. Fuck, I have to get back to Cali for la Feria. Haven't been for 9 years now.

    Having said that, it's so nice to be able to just pay and get what you want when you want and on your terms.

  14. #55305
    Quote Originally Posted by Osteoknot  [View Original Post]
    He is 80, she is 19 years old. He pays her rent, that's it.

    He was a miserable wretch living on a fixed income in the USA that was not meeting his needs. A friend of his from here, a really great friend, bought him a ticket to Medellin. The rest as the saying goes, is history.
    His name wasn't 'Eric' was it? I've been trying to locate an old friend who fits that description!

  15. #55304

    Not sure I follow you

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    Just playing devil's advocate, how does this different from what Elvis is doing?

    Most of us know this could go bad if the man is not prepared. He could be miserable and stalking the girl while she has a date.
    First, I can't claim to know what Elvis is doing. Are you implying that the girl might have a jealous local boyfriend? Gringo or non-Gringo?

    A much more likely scenario would be that she has a local boyfriend who benefits from her relationship with the old dude, than being at risk of danger from the boyfriend. Or that she has multiple novios and they others ones don't stalk her or worry about her other relationships. But of course anything is possible when it comes to irrational behavior secondary to interpersonal relationships. I would place danger from another boyfriend a distant last on the list.

    Finally, I consider other girlfriends and girlfriends in general more dangerous to guys, then other boyfriends dangerous to guys. Them can be some crazy-ass beeatches. Catgirl used to tell me she would cut my dick off in the middle of the night if I got her mad enough. She hasn't said that in over year, now. Jajajajaa.

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