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07-27-22 19:54 #1204
Posts: 1680Well
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
The bottom line is that Russia needed reasons for the invasion to spin in their media, so they created a "crisis" with this demand they knew would be rejected. The bottom line though is exactly what you said, they are out to rebuild empire, and especially want the valuable Ukrainian industries, farmlands, and sea ports. This while they specifically stated they aren't concerned about Finland joining the alliance, a country they share a 1340 Km border with.
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07-27-22 18:38 #1203
Posts: 657Zelensky's Conscription Now Targeting Nursing Homes
Elderly flee press gangs.
Ukrainian nursing home operators are reporting a surge in walk-offs due to elders' fears that Zelensky's increasingly desperate recruiting efforts will target them next.
75-year-old retiree Cadger Starets, who recently went AWOL from the Kladovyshche Nursing Home in Kiev, explained during an interview at an undisclosed location: "They're already grabbing 50-year-olds off the streets, beaches, shopping malls, 'checkpoints, gas stations and other public places. ' Looks like they're coming for us next. ".
Specifically, Zelensky said, old folks who are wheelchair-bound or severely mobility-impaired will be exempt. Those using walkers or canes, however, may still be drafted, as well as those unable to control excretory functions: "All of our troops lose control of excretory functions during Russian artillery strikes, so that shouldn't be an issue. " Likewise, dementia will not be an obstacle to induction to military service: "If it doesn't stop you from being president of the United States, it shouldn't stop you from dying on the front lines of a stupid, utterly unnecessary war. "
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2022/0...nursing-homes/
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07-27-22 15:40 #1202
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
I think the real reason the USA Still maintains a European presence is that NATO has given our leaders a continuing excuse to maintain a large, standing army abroad. As you seem to believe, Putin might feel threatened by NATO but the current purpose of USA Troops in Europe is to have a standby army near the oil fields of the Mideast. The USA Army in Europe could possibly be re-positioned later in the Asia Pacific region.
I don't know what historical global strategist first said that the problem with a large, standing army is that you tend to want to use it. This has certainly been the United States' failing.
You might not notice, but I don't care for black & white narratives in global analysis. I almost always find it is too simplistic and is used to reach a preconceived perspective. I'm also not one of these guys thinking the Ukraine is easily going to run Russia out, trigger the end of the Putin regime and it will be a great ending to the conflict.
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07-27-22 06:52 #1201
Posts: 1991Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
How many times after the WW2 the Russian Army has marched on? Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Afghanistan, Poland, Chechnya (that was an internal and controversial affair, but still), Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine.
8 years ago when he attacked Ukraine for the first time, it would've been easy to stop him. Our collective weakness has turned Putin into a mad lunatic. Now we're having what we're having -- all blown war. I can only hope we don't give up again.
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07-26-22 20:39 #1200
Posts: 3338Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
Yeah, I want out of NATO too. What return do we get on our investment? Russia is a joke. China is the real threat.
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07-26-22 17:21 #1199
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
In any event, was NATO really a direct threat to Russia or was it actually a threat to Russia's ability to try to reassemble parts of the Russian empire? We also have the Russian military continually encroaching on their neighbors' territory throughout the 2000's. If the Russians aren't stepping over borders, they are meddling in their neighbors' politics.
Let's pack all the baggage, shall we.
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07-25-22 22:49 #1198
Posts: 1991What he does: Part 2
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
He finds nothing better to do but accuse me of a) getting paid by Israel or b) being a dumb American Democrat.
Well, folks, I must say: Dumbo, pardon me, Merdo didn't think it through (well, he never does).
If he did, he would ask himself or some father figure like Golfinho or Elvis, why the state of Israel would pay me to tarnish (LOL) that impeccable reputation of Russia and its Eternal Leader. Israel works harder than ever to maintain good relationship with Russia (which, unfortunately, can't be helped considering Middle East's geopolitical realities).
I mean, why Israel? Maybe I'm getting paid by America, UK, EU, Japan, Australia, or the United Federation of the Terra Excelsior Republic (yeah, look it up)?
But no, it's got to be Israel. Just like Merdo has got to be Merdo.
As for being a dumb American Democrat, that won't fly either. Americans disgust for Putin and his war is bipartisan. Remember these beautiful American HIMARS that Ukrainians have been using to blow Russian arms and fuel depots to high heaven? That's what bipartisan means. Land lease. Yeah, baby.
I mean, there aren't many deviants like you, Drama Queen, Golfinho or Elvis. Seriously. I know you go to forums and people like you are everywhere, but that's only because you guys are scared of sunlight, LOL.
The thing is, unlike you, I can't be completely sure that you're a paid shill for Russia. I mean, you talk like a paid shill, walk like a paid shill, quack like a paid shill, but are you a paid shill? I just don't have the facts.
You may be a fascist. Or a Nazi. There is a difference, like between HIV and AIDS. In that case, your adoration of Putin is natural. Organic even.
Or you may be a sadist deriving pleasure every time Ukrainian men, women and children are murdered.
Or you may be both.
Or you may be a sadistic fascist paid shill -- who says you can't take pleasure from your job, right?
Zig heil, tovarisch.
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07-25-22 22:38 #1197
Posts: 1991What he does
Originally Posted by PedroMorales [View Original Post]
Tu quoque (Latin Tū quoque, for "you also") is a discussion technique that intends to discredit the opponent's argument by attacking the opponent's own personal behavior and actions as being inconsistent with their argument, therefore accusing hypocrisy. This specious reasoning is a special type of ad hominem attack. The Oxford English Dictionary cites John Cooke's 1614 stage play The Cittie Gallant as the earliest use of the term in the English language. "Whataboutism" is one particularly well known modern instance of this technique.
Whataboutism or whataboutery denotes in a pejorative sense a procedure in which a critical question or argument is not answered or discussed, but retorted with a critical counter-question which expresses a counter-accusation. From a logical and argumentative point of view it is considered a variant of the Tu-quoque pattern (Latin 'you too', term for a counter-accusation), which is a subtype of the Ad-hominem argument.
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07-25-22 14:54 #1196
Posts: 2821Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Ukraine government should have been focused on fixing their own corruption and finding common ground with Putin, too easy.
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07-25-22 10:39 #1195
Posts: 2374Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
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07-25-22 03:04 #1194
Posts: 1327Originally Posted by DramaFree11 [View Original Post]
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07-25-22 02:51 #1193
Posts: 717Originally Posted by Paulie97 [View Original Post]
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07-24-22 19:40 #1192
Posts: 3338Amazing
https://cnsnews.com/commentary/patri...-so-pugnacious
When Russian President Vladimir Putin built up forces outside Ukraine and asked repeatedly for assurances that Ukraine would not be brought into NATO, an alliance aimed at Russia, the Biden administration refused.
The February invasion followed, and among Biden's subsequent threats, his call for the removal of Putin was virtually declared a war aim.
I like the Australian journalist who said that Americans like Biden do not give a damn about the Ukrainian people.
We saw the real reason for this war last week.
https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-gr...utm_medium=web
Fast forward to last week. As January 6th hearings, a presidential fist-bump, and a Kardashian spawn's gender reveal gobbled attention, the House quietly passed a monster $839 billion defense package. It was "the definition of a bipartisan bill," chirped Alabama's Mike Rogers, as 180 Democrats and 149 Republicans joined to smash by tens of billions previous records for military spending. With this already underreported story, just one news outlet, Roll Call, described a "first of its kind" report published by the Department of Defense Comptroller's office, which revealed at least $58 billion of "congressional additions" above Joe Biden's budget request.
Both the triumphant return of the earmark and the enormous defense hike should have been big stories. To put $58 billion (at least) in defense "increases" in context, the amount of overall federal earmarks in 2006, the infamous year that prompted so much outrage, was said to be $26 billion. Meanwhile Biden's one-year arms increase exceeds the pace of Donald Trump's infamous $200 billion collective defense hike between 2017-2019. These are major surges past the levels of both pork and weapons spending that had progressives roaring for "change," yet there's almost zero outcry now. Why?
So war is good again.
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07-24-22 11:38 #1191
Posts: 1056Paid Spammers
Originally Posted by Questner [View Original Post]
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07-24-22 03:47 #1190
Posts: 1680?
Originally Posted by Questner [View Original Post]
P.S. Russia has been breaking agreements all along, is why they call this war a "special military operation." And yes bombing port cities is at odds with the grain agreement. That's not to mention the war crimes involved with the targeting and executing of civilians as well as deportations and modern day concentration camps.