Bogota Reports

[Ggekko2009]

1) If you fall in love in Latin America, you are falling in love by yourself.

2) Money can't buy you love.

3) and pussy makes you stupid.

A quick story, and I think many of us know of some stories where we fucked up on a trip.e

A good friend and wingman of mine, a veteran pilot for a major airline with thousands of layovers throughout Latin America, fell in love with a hot chick who he met in a Terma in Rio. He bought an apartment for her in Santos. Was a great place for him to use a crash pad on layovers and maybe get married. Long story short, he want back to the states and when he returned to Brasil, she the locks changed, had her boyfriend and har whole family living there. The stupid ass put the house in her name so he was shit out off luck. When he confronted her she said and I quote:

"you should have known better, look at you, look at me" nuff said.

Just today, I had a SA girl whom I had a session from my previous trip asked me if I can spot her some money upfront for her to make rent and she can waive future charges the next time I see her. I simply said I am afraid that I do not do that. Then, also another SA girl was pissed that I never bring her my any presents when she kept hinting for one. My thought was, why should I, you are one of the many. It is a transaction and the ppm that I pay her should be enough. I guessed that she has now blocked me on WhatsApp. Whatever, she is one of the so many that I have in my list.

[LatinaLover#1]

1) If you fall in love in Latin America, you are falling in love by yourself.

2) Money can't buy you love.

3) and pussy makes you stupid.

A quick story, and I think many of us know of some stories where we fucked up on a trip.

A good friend and wingman of mine, a veteran pilot for a major airline with thousands of layovers throughout Latin America, fell in love with a hot chick who he met in a Terma in Rio. He bought an apartment for her in Santos. Was a great place for him to use a crash pad on layovers and maybe get married. Long story short, he want back to the states and when he returned to Brasil, she the locks changed, had her boyfriend and har whole family living there. The stupid ass put the house in her name so he was shit out off luck. When he confronted her she said and I quote:

"you should have known better, look at you, look at me" nuff said.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Looks good except for the Inca cola. That's probably one of my least favorite sodas. Period.

It's possible to make real, deep, and lasting friendships in Colombia and throughout Latin America with some time, language skills, and luck. I actually found that many people liked to spend money on me, whether it be buying me drinks or inviting me to parties as a way to show off to their friends and to enhance their social status when I worked in Central America. I remember going to a norteno concert in Honduras and getting bought beers the whole night by random people. I've also made real, lasting friendships / relationships that are not based on this type of showing off including with women who took me out and bought nice gifts for me. Here in Colombia, I'm still building my contacts but I already know several women who are happy to spend time with me and expect nothing from me beyond my company.

I think a lot of people fail and get sucked into abusive walking "cajero" relationships based on their own preconceptions and attitudes. One is that they take the scarcity attitude from here in the US with them to Latin America. There is no scarcity of women in Colombia or Latin America more generally. Probably 70% of the women you meet are single and / or willing to ditch their current boyfriend for a better prospect. Another is this attitude that women are doing you a favor by having sex with you or giving you their attention and need to be compensated in some way. I try to have the attitude that I'm doing them a favor by giving them my time, and attention and by having sex with them. Realizing that there is no scarcity and having a positive attitude about your own self-worth makes it easy to say no when someone tries to exploit you as you realize there are always other options. With that way of thinking its a question of time and a matter of putting yourself out there and time before you find more genuine friendships and relationships.

Are you a shrink by any chance? Because this forum sure could use someone that can articulate these matters so succinctly to some here.

Or maybe if you want to make a ton of money you can write being El Jefe in Latin America for dummies / gringos 101.

Oh who am I kidding we all know you can't fix stoopid, they would probably just give the book as another gift to some 3rd world puta LOL.

[Recondite]

Looks good except for the Inca cola. That's probably one of my least favorite sodas. Period.

It's possible to make real, deep, and lasting friendships in Colombia and throughout Latin America with some time, language skills, and luck. I actually found that many people liked to spend money on me, whether it be buying me drinks or inviting me to parties as a way to show off to their friends and to enhance their social status when I worked in Central America. I remember going to a norteno concert in Honduras and getting bought beers the whole night by random people. I've also made real, lasting friendships / relationships that are not based on this type of showing off including with women who took me out and bought nice gifts for me. Here in Colombia, I'm still building my contacts but I already know several women who are happy to spend time with me and expect nothing from me beyond my company.

I think a lot of people fail and get sucked into abusive walking "cajero" relationships based on their own preconceptions and attitudes. One is that they take the scarcity attitude from here in the US with them to Latin America. There is no scarcity of women in Colombia or Latin America more generally. Probably 70% of the women you meet are single and / or willing to ditch their current boyfriend for a better prospect. Another is this attitude that women are doing you a favor by having sex with you or giving you their attention and need to be compensated in some way. I try to have the attitude that I'm doing them a favor by giving them my time, and attention and by having sex with them. Realizing that there is no scarcity and having a positive attitude about your own self-worth makes it easy to say no when someone tries to exploit you as you realize there are always other options. With that way of thinking its a question of time and a matter of putting yourself out there and time before you find more genuine friendships and relationships.

Down in Peru today and one of my chicks hit me up this morning saying to come to the house at 2 pm for lunch. I get here and there are ribs on the grill. There are 8 people here (including me) and my plate is made first AND I am seated at the head of the table. There are no shoeless grandmothers and no deformed adult teenagers to be seen. I did not need to bring any gifts and all the money that I came with is still in my pocket! (I did take it out of my pocket for 1 second for picture taking purposes though.).

[Mr Enternational]

Kudos to you for trying to treat a woman like a human being and more than just a pussy.

What I do not get is why guys can not find a normal woman to treat like a human being. Why do they always have to do it with a chick they are supposed to be paying in the first place, aka a hooker, sugar baby, or whatever other name you want to give a chick that is not coming over if you do not give her money?

[MarquisdeSade1]

Down in Peru today and one of my chicks hit me up this morning saying to come to the house at 2 pm for lunch. I get here and there are ribs on the grill. There are 8 people here (including me) and my plate is made first AND I am seated at the head of the table. There are no shoeless grandmothers and no deformed adult teenagers to be seen. I did not need to bring any gifts and all the money that I came with is still in my pocket! (I did take it out of my pocket for 1 second for picture taking purposes though.).

Real men never bend over!!

And you can't fix stoopid bro.

[Mr Enternational]

That's it. Uber and other rideshare apps are not illegal in Colombia.

Now go out and ride your Ubers, Didi's, Indriver to your hearts content while down in Colombia and stop fretting that you're going to get arrested.

Who talks about getting arrested? So you are saying the drivers are not going to get a fine or their car impounded even though I personally know people this has happened to?

[Mr Enternational]

Arent you the monger that just posted in this thread there are 900 putas in HK at one time.

I've been in there a million times and can say your numbers are outrageous.

I have been in HK 1 million times too, but when I saw those numbers I immediately thought well it must be (a lot of) something I am missing, because I have never seen that many chicks there. I think I took this picture on the Illustrious Tomjackin's birthday. This is my female coworker sucking on titties right before me and her went outside and got a 200 peso SW for a threesome.

you have about 15 chicas. Miami room would always have around 25 chicas. 2nd floor north end would have 80 chicas sitting at the tables. South end would have around 50. The mini stairs on the first floor would be flanked on both sides by around 20 chicas. The area around the main stage would have 100 chicas. Alley stage another 80 chicas. Count all the chicas that you can't see, probably at least 75 in the locker rooms changing outfits and fixing their makeup. 30-40 in the bathrooms at at any given time. Probably at least 50 getting fucked in Cascadas. The deadest weekend night would have minimum 400 chicas.

And you saw this right before the fire marshall shut the place down for having 10 times as many people that would fit in the building? Is it legal to take photos in HK? It must be since the waiter is posing in this one that I took.

[DaVinci40]

For some reason, this theory seems to persist and feel that the air needs to be cleared so that we can all move on from Uber and rideshares being illegal. They are not. Let me summarize for us all:

1) Taxi companies in Colombia (like the rest of the world) require their drivers to pay a fee for a medallion. The fees go to local / city / state tax revenues. Every country has their own term for this medallion. In Colombia it's called a "Cupo". And just like basically every country, they had not yet modernized their taxi service and it struggled with the advent of rideshares where anyone could become a "taxi driver" without having to pay your local government the "cupo" fees. As an example, a Cupo in Colombia along with the special drivers license required costs $25-50 k USD. Yes, that is correct. $25 to 50 thousand US dollars. It is often more expensive than the car itself and is a huge source of revenue for the government.

2) Rather than modernize their service or reduce the need for a Cupo, Colombia instead chose to sue Uber specifically as it was the largest rideshare company at the time it entered the Colombian market.

3) Uber lost the court case and in December, 2019 the Superintendent of Industry and Commerce, came out and said Uber is now illegal. This is the point that many of these discussions have hovered around. A member of government on December 19th, 2019 said it was illegal.

4) 10 days later, Uber disputed the findings of the court case and initiated legal actions against the Colombian government to protect foreign investments under the free trade agreement between Colombia and the USA (Uber is a Delaware, USA based company).

5) Approximately 1 month later, while the courts had yet to review the case, Uber left Colombia in February 2020. Reports popped up that Transport police were giving rideshare drivers a hard time at the airports and in an attempt to get around it would require someone sit in the front. At the same time Uber dropped their protective status case because. (read number 6).

6) Once Uber had left, they initiated a different agreement to the Uber app and effectively bypassed the ruling given by the court. Uber in Colombia gets around the ruling by now calling itself a "Car and Driver Rental Service". Now, when getting an Uber from your app you are specifically renting a car and driver and that subtle change means you can use Uber as well as the other rideshare apps as they also changed their terms of service. This is how Uber (and the other apps we call rideshares but in Colombia are now called car and driver rentals) are allowed to operate. It is also my understanding.

7) That's it. Uber and other rideshare apps are not illegal in Colombia.

Now go out and ride your Ubers, Didi's, Indriver to your hearts content while down in Colombia and stop fretting that you're going to get arrested.

[Mr Enternational]

In my mind if there are 8 or 9 mfs gathered to eat, then as the foreigner I should be the guest of honor, not the mf that is feeding everybody. It is easier for 8 folks to chip in to feed 1 person than 1 person to pay for 9 people. How does that even happen? If you were a local boyfriend do you think that shit would happen?

To me traveling in foreign lands is about soaking up the local hospitality,

Down in Peru today and one of my chicks hit me up this morning saying to come to the house at 2 pm for lunch. I get here and there are ribs on the grill. There are 8 people here (including me) and my plate is made first AND I am seated at the head of the table. There are no shoeless grandmothers and no deformed adult teenagers to be seen. I did not need to bring any gifts and all the money that I came with is still in my pocket! (I did take it out of my pocket for 1 second for picture taking purposes though.).

[Mr Enternational]

And the second $770 k dinner, there was no possible way I, or any other monger, could have predicted 7/8 guests would order two entrees. It came as a shock to me, listening to them place their orders. And not everyone said "thank you. " I'm still trying to figure out how you order two entrees at a restaurant knowing someone is going to foot the bill.

My guess is because they knew a sucker when they saw one. My motto is if it is for free then it is for me. And I guess they live by the same code.

[Mr Enternational]

I knew I would take some heat, mostly from a couple of mongers I've humiliated here in the past, who insist that rideshares operate secretly and illegally in Colombia, and the government has no idea rideshares are being given.

Cases in point: Prostitution is illegal in Las Vegas. But since there are hookers everywhere and even flyers and magazines offering their services, I guess you suppose it must be legal.

Where I am from it is absolutely illegal to have marijuana, but the district attorney has given police instructions to look the other way when someone has weed because they will not prosecute if someone has less than a certain amount, so everywhere you go you can smell illegal marijuana on people. Hard to imagine for you I know.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I appreciate the insightful feedback. Yeah, I know things didn't go smoothly for me. But I wrote my story, to the entertainment and benefit of mongers to provide a little insight on one monger's foray into the Bogota semi-pro world. I knew I would take some heat, mostly from a couple of mongers I've humiliated here in the past, who insist that rideshares operate secretly and illegally in Colombia, and the government has no idea rideshares are being given. These couple mongers are hell bent on revenge, and nitpick everything I say. They're so desperate to prove me wrong, just once, but fail every time. Jbee is a classic example. I don't even bother to read whatever drivel he spouts. But it's funny because he feverishly absorbs every word I write and responds to almost every one of my posts. Just obsessed, it's quite pathetic. I'm glad there are intelligent posters here such as LatinaLover and Zeos that can provide feedback and constructive criticism without the attacks. It's unfortunate that there's posters like Marquis here, who attack another poster just for writing a report. These needless attacks make enemies for no reason. And reveal his level of intelligence and maturity.

So right now, I'd like to provide a little more in-depth look at my thought process throughout this ordeal.

MrE stated that he tosses to the curb any chica who hints of wanting money that he feels is undeserved. He mentioned a chica who he ditched merely for mentioning that her 20 year old son needed school supplies. Well, that chica would have to be around 40-45 years old. Let me say this: it is a hell of a lot easier ditching a grown 40 year old woman than it is an 18 year old. Many of you guys read her age as just a number and didn't consider her less-than-mature state of mind. Put yourselves into my situation. Your tolerance would be higher than normal as well because you're dealing with an 18 year old. And even higher because she is afflicted with a lifelong impairment that seriously compromises the quality of her life.

Also consider that I already had a lot invested. Sunk costs you could say. Travel expenses, gifts, etc. At the time, my goal was unlimited GFE sex for the next 7 days. If I had just ditched her earlier than I did, then I would be forfeiting my ultimate goal prematurely. My tolerance for BS was higher because I already had significant sunk costs and the payout, if achieved, would be significant.

Another thing, since I am just starting out in Bogota, I had no backup plan or alternatives. My game is the long game of free unlimited GFE. These relationships take some time to cultivate. Due to time constraints, I knew I wouldn't have time to find and cultivate a new relationship. Another factor which raised my tolerance.

So I spent around $330 usd in two days. If the result would have been unlimited GFE sex for the next 7 days, that would be well worth it. Some of you guys pay up to $100 usd / HR, or $200-$300 for TLN. Which makes $330 usd for TLS (toda la semana) a bargain. So I rolled the dice and stuck around for a while. Well worth the risk. Had she not been on the rag, I would have been rewarded with at least a partial payout. Well worth it, especially if you put a premium on 18 year old ass.

And the second $770 k dinner, there was no possible way I, or any other monger, could have predicted 7/8 guests would order two entrees. It came as a shock to me, listening to them place their orders. And not everyone said "thank you. " I'm still trying to figure out how you order two entrees at a restaurant knowing someone is going to foot the bill. When I go out to eat knowing someone else is paying the check, I order one moderately priced entree and limit myself to one drink. Maybe a shared appetizer and no dessert. But that's just me. I supposed I could have pulled a MrE and excused myself to the bathroom and slipped into a taxi but I had some possessions back at her apt and it would be rather awkward going back to retrieve them.

Provide feedback and constructive criticism without the attacks. It's unfortunate that there's posters like Marquis here, who attack another poster just for writing a report. These needless attacks make enemies for no reason. And reveal his level of intelligence and maturity.

OK whereTF did I attack you? But you want to quickly use the word enemy LOL and then you want to impugn my intelligence and maturity LOL.

We don't know your age but I think this post reveals a lot about you.

"And reveal his level of intelligence and maturity?

Me thinks you project too much.

Arent you the monger that just posted in this thread there are 900 putas in HK at one time.

I've been in there a million times and can say your numbers are outrageous.

In addiction to exposing issues with your maturity and intelligence I question your sanity as well.

BTW bro what's with the obsession with that age 18?

[Mr Enternational]

I knew I would take some heat, mostly from a couple of mongers I've humiliated here in the past, who insist that rideshares operate secretly and illegally in Colombia, and the government has no idea rideshares are being given. These couple mongers are hell bent on revenge, and nitpick everything I say. They're so desperate to prove me wrong, just once, but fail every time.

You have not proven that ride sharing is legal. You have only said because you think and feel it can not be illegal that it is legal. You are in the minority, so how about proving yourself right.

Nobody ever said the government did not know about it. Please quote where you saw someone write that. In third world countries there are things that are illegal that are tolerated and there are gray areas. They will not bust you for something today then bust you for that same thing tomorrow. That is what you are failing to understand.

In Thailand the law says that you must wear a helmet when riding a motorbike. 800 people can ride by the police with no helmet on, then when number 801 rides by without a helmet they pull them over and give them a ticket. Just because tons of people are seen doing it with no penalty does not make it legal.

[Mr Enternational]

You have nothing to apologize for with the restaurants. Colombian restaurants have three condiments: ketchup, mustard, and Pepto Bismol.

LOL. Then they only want to give you a microamount of those. I have to say mucho mucho mucho salsa de BBQ and it is still less than a normal amount. It is impossible to find black pepper at a restaurant. Whenever I ask for it they do not know what the hell I am talking about. I have learned to bring my own condiments when I am traveling.