Angeles City

[Elmer Fuddness]

And I'm probably one of them.

Or alternately about having separate families in different countries simultaneously?

Mainly this. Somehow before my 40's I've checked off pretty much everything off my bucket list and now I'm down to firehosing it, looking for twins, sisters, mom & daughter, having a black kid, Indian kid etc etc. Would like to be taken seriously in my musical endevours, and after that I can consider my trip through life over. I did live hard and fast and it sort of caught up to me and changed my perspective a bit. So I suppose no matter how you look at it, this is somewhat about a legacy. My feelings about the "old books" legacy is thoroughly destroyed, in terms of "raising my kids" and all that. Old models of male prestige are dead and so I'm living for myself. But at the end of the day I've learned the strongest red pill is that no one has your back as a man, period. If you're living to be the good man and "do the right thing" and all that, you better be doing it for you and yourself. Because you're not putting that time and money into a piggy bank, you're throwing it into a well. I lived a long time under the matra of doing everything I could for a women and trying to be the good guy and came to the conclusion there is literally zero benefit to doing that, zero. Honestly, less than zero. I keep telling my wife not to threaten me with a good time because PI is calling me.

[Elmer Fuddness]

Fucking hell Elmer! You're a mad man. I love it! I can't imagine this will be tough to find in the Phils. They love western features and would love a sponsor. Keep us posted.

Well. At least online this isn't as simple or clear. It does seem like a good portion of them online do want support, but they want it as a girlfriend or "wife. " And many of those drop away once they aren't the primary. If I've learned anything through all my time with women, it is that they are very guarded about a man's attention when it comes to provisioning in any way. I've grinded the wife on this a bit and basically mongering in another country is a lower offense than having a steamy lunch date down the road. The relationship part of it, no matter how small is the larger offense of it all. Sort of a flip side of how we feel. I couldn't care less how many lunch dates a woman has with a man, how steamy they are.

Anyways, from my searches, I get the impression that many of these girls are accustomed to a large degree of chicanery and this is one of those things that is much much harder to fake, and pretty much can't be faked at all. I've got 2 hooks so far (out of 30+ generally interested), but I don't know how serious they are. Using the 30% rule, I figure I'll need at least 21 of them by vacation of next year to have 7 who will show up. Either way that was using Tinder fairly moderately, so I suppose if I hit this harder and on more platforms I'll have more than enough potentials. True limit is the amount of time and how lucky I am with anyone's respective cycle.

[NapaSlapper]

I try to keep it respectful to everyone.

Landed yesterday and took a look at at least 10 bars. I'm surprised by the low quality of women here. I could say 98% of single moms. Am I the only one who can differentiate a single mom from a girl easily by the face or gentlemen who like this shithole really don't care? Burgos in Makati has at least few girls without babies in every bar, yeah not all hot but you can find your type there. Manila is much much better specially the online game. It's been only 2-3 years that I am recognizing single moms from girls easily and get turned off by the earlier. Planning to hit Bangkok and Pattaya later, hope the bars are not full of single moms.

Like Angeles.

Unfortunately its not very hard to be disappointed with what Angeles city has to offer.

For guys that are looking for no baby girls then it is an uphill struggle, for those that look for no baby, slim, younger and attractive then even harder, one will have to hunt high and low over many hours and many bars to find such.

The problems don't end there, most no baby, younger, slim attractive girls are either Cherrie girls (virgins) drinks only girls or Asian only girls.

For those like myself who refuse to settle for less than I want or like then barhops in Angeles can get boring real quick, for those that are not fussy and easily pleased then its not too hard to find a bed partner.

Have several expat friends who have such low standards that I would not leave them alone in a room with my 93 year old grandmother for fear of them hitting on her, of course these same guys are quick to report of the stunner they supposedly always get.

Talk by some guys of the better looking girls being less good in bed than ugly girls has not been my experience, the trouble in the new Angeles is finding hot girls that will barfine in the first place, once found then no complaints in the bedroom.

[Issaquah]

So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.

If you have really white skin and blue eyes once you let it known you want to have kids with a Filipina you won't be able to keep them away!

[WestCoast1]

So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.

Some of you guys don't need to multiply.

And I'm probably one of them.

Not sure I understood the gist of EF's post. Is this about unintended kids? Or alternately about having separate families in different countries simultaneously? Or sexing pinay while his wife is in the room?

EF's post reminded of a scene in movie Bull Durham. Millie has just f*cked the baseball team's newest pitcher in the bathroom before the game. Wild sex scene, standing up, crashing into the CR walls and such. Now she's sitting in the stands watching the game with her female friend Annie, watching the new pitcher throw wild pitches:

Annie: "So. How was he"?

Millie: "Well he f*cks like he pitches. All over the place".

[Dg8787]

So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.

Some of you guys don't need to multiply.

[SethMacfarlane]

So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.

Fucking hell Elmer! You're a mad man. I love it! I can't imagine this will be tough to find in the Phils. They love western features and would love a sponsor. Keep us posted.

[AsianPursuits]

It would be an interesting option to live here for a few months if you could get a room near walking street.

There are rooms anywhere but if you are living there then I suggest people get further away from Walking St. Normal girls will judge you if you are staying near Walking St. There are many local girls that will ignore profiles when the guy is a tourist or only in town for two weeks. When they have seen you at SM, seen you on dating sites for month then that opens up a whole new demographic of talent.

A longer stay also means you can have non-pressure dates with normal girls. The girls that just want to see you are normal on the first meet. They go home and are then keen to see you for sex after that.

Being there for an extended period also means you can invite in normal girls from Bataan or Tarlac.

If you are of working age then a few hours work at a call center can also keep you interested.

[Expat American]

You are the exception not the rule. Older guys and guys that live there do not care as much because they can get a stunner any time they want really. But two week millionaires do not go mongering all around the world seeking average girls! Guys on a budget but only have 2 weeks vacation per year are not taking that long expensive flight to spend two weeks with girls that are ok looking. I have been with both levels of girls. But I do not go showing pictures and bragging to my buddies about the average girls I was with, only the stunners that cause my friends to drool and doubt me at the same time.

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I don't think he is the exception. I look much more for attitude than looks. Almost always the hottest girls have the worst attitudes. ID rather pick a 7 with a great attitude over a snotty 9 any day. A good attitude 7 is a 9 in my book and crappy attitude 9 is a 2.

[XBoyX]

I try to keep it respectful to everyone.

Landed yesterday and took a look at at least 10 bars. I'm surprised by the low quality of women here. I could say 98% of single moms. Am I the only one who can differentiate a single mom from a girl easily by the face or gentlemen who like this shithole really don't care? Burgos in Makati has at least few girls without babies in every bar, yeah not all hot but you can find your type there. Manila is much much better specially the online game. It's been only 2-3 years that I am recognizing single moms from girls easily and get turned off by the earlier. Planning to hit Bangkok and Pattaya later, hope the bars are not full of single moms.

Like Angeles.

[Elmer Fuddness]

So guys who either intentionally or unintentionally have children now, how did that work out? What would you say the best platform is to find a pinay that wants to setup having a white baby. Really getting into the ideal of setting up a home base in a couple countries. Women aren't loyal so far as I can so it's less about an LTR and more about finding a woman that is open to the idea of a LDR family. Have a wife already and she said she's done having kids (I have enough for our house at least). One of the first flips I talked to about this said it was "low. " LOL. I've dialed it back a bit and started talking to them more like romantic partners, but these girls are on Tinder. I would never send a dime to any of these women before a DNA test, so that pretty much rules out any games so far as I'm concerned, but am curious on input. Figure there's got to be at least a couple flips that love the idea of getting knocked up with my wife in the room. Found one in the states that was big into being the cuckcake and did a BBFSCIP for $80. When she started posting again she looked like she had some weight on her and a minivan LOL. Since that point on I was hooked on the idea.

[RedMau5]

Many on the arms of Koreans, a scattered few on the arms of other foreigners. It's an interesting trip so far, something new. I flew up from Cebu so didn't have to deal with a long bus ride to get here from Manila. Pretty sure the Koreans have a direct flight to Clarke so guessing that's why they are now here in droves. I was wondering about those man purses the Koreans carry, a woman boards a flight and she can bring a small carry on along with her purse. Is it the same with a man purse? And all over the world men carry wallets and put stuff in pockets. How is it that Koreans and Japanese men talked themselves into carrying these purses? You go around Asia you don't see the men in other countries going along with this trend. I have seen YouTube videos where the record hidden video of these establishments, maybe some of those purses are used to record the girls.

As someone else already mentioned, establishments like Walking Street AC is a hub for money laundering by the Koreans, just the same as it is in Nana Bangkok with the Japanese, just the same as Cowboy Bangkok with the Iranians, and the Russians and Indians in Pattaya. There is an underworld that is unknown to most sex tourists, a darker side of things. As a sex tourist, you just go about your business, spend money, and don't complain or start trouble. Take whatever scraps that are left for you when the "bosses" preferred clientele have had their fun and first choice. It is how it works everywhere in the world. Try pushing in on the Japanese clubs or massages at Shinjuku and see what happens. Those with the power will always get the best, but they leave enough for the rest to get by. The Korean thing with AC has been going on for more than 4-5 years in the making. Better to just ride the ride, than disappear minus a kidney. Or fall off a balcony somewhere in Thailand. The high level ones don't fight. They have their methods to make everything look accidental.

And with the man purse it all depends on what they have to carry I guess. 2 phones, loose coin bag, wallet, passport, pills, baggies with powder, bundles of cash etc etc. All of that looks and feels kind of silly in 3 tight pant pockets. You are kind of behind in the times when it comes to messenger bags. Ask Indiana Jones. LOL.

https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/galler...of-the-man-bag

[ILuvBrownGirls]

I barfined a girl 2 days ago and she told me she usually not at bar because customers book her always online before she goes bar. I asked how this is possible and she said there is an app for that. Next day I wanted to extend her and her manager came my condo. I paid bar fine for 2 days more and I asked that app. Manager said that app for Korean only.

Anyone know how this app works and we can use it also? The manager told me mostly stunners barfined without coming bar because I told her I cannot see real stunners in bars mostly.

I think the app is called Instagram or iMessage. Girls were heavily into Yahoo Instant Messenger back in 2010 and have been more into setting up dates online every time I returned. I can only imagine what it is like after being away for 6 years. Nevertheless, I am looking forward to returning.

[Breadman]

Five days here so far and haven't even hit all of the bars on walking street. Bars are filled with a reality good mix of women from good lookers to not so good. There are many great lookers working in some of the bars, many many walking in the street. I am pleasantly surprised at the scene, beer is cheap at Kokomos only 75 pesos which gives you a great place to people watch and possibly pick up girls walking by. Haven't even hit any perimeter bars, maybe next trip. Is it worth coming out here. I'd say yes. My guess is many province girls come here vs Manila for cheaper rent.

Question is if you live here so you get more action at a cheaper price? Are there more girls here than in Manila that will come to your place for a cheaper price? I'd have to guess not. More bars here than Burgos but also so so many Koreans overspending and ruining the scene. I can say that the dating sites have way for girls in Manila compared to Angeles.

It would be an interesting option to live here for a few months if you could get a room near walking street.

[AsianPursuits]

Older retirees in AC on military pensions or other social security from their home countries prefer to drink beer and tell war stories with their mates. Not many of them are chasing top tier pussy. For older mongers like me, girls attitude is far more important than pure looks.

Philippines has something and someone for everyone. That there is a place where (we) old farts can sit around, drink, tell stories, have a pretty GF less than half our age, get meals cooked, house cleaned and do it every day. Sounds like nirvana. The girls that are suited to the retiree scene are not the Dollhouse spotlight girls.

There are so many different communities in AC which all have their own way.