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  1. #57675
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    I do not hate Parque Lleras. But I hate many of the foreigner guys that frequently go there. The ones that need constant attention "look at me look at me" syndrome. They overspend and then bring that to Centro and to other cities because most are 2 week millionaires. This screws up prices for guys that spend 6 months or more in Colombia and the locals. They flash cash making it rain like they are big dogs.
    I think they also contribute to the aggressive behavior of the chicas being talked about on here. The worst encounter I've had with a FB chica was one I had seen numerous times over a number of years. When I paid her, she demanded more. I had increased her payment over the years. She was a small, slender chica, so I wasn't concerned with physical harm to me; but she could have gone on a destructive attack inside the apartment. I managed to push her out of the apartment without making any marks on her.

  2. #57674
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Are there any private beaches in Santa Marta? Or nice beach clubs? .
    I don't know of any private beaches there. Not sure if that would be legal. And no beach clubs. Most of the life is on yhe 2 ealking streets that run off pqe de LOS novios. There are quite a lot of clubs, and at least 5 chica clubs.

  3. #57673

    Mansion update

    I hope I'm not repeating information others have reported. (When I'm boots on the ground, I don't keep up with ISG as well.)

    I just returned from my latest MDE trip. I stayed at the mansion (M1). People seem to have a strong opinion on the value, with fair arguments on either side. I am a fan myself. This past week, there was a good group of guys that made the down time enjoyable. The problem was that there were more guys than girls. What makes the mansion so nice to me is the ability to sit and chat with the girls at the pool. There were days that there were literally two girls there all day. I'm not sure how long this will go on. In talking with some girls I trust, the hotel has clamped down on who can enter. Essentially, a girl needs a date to get in. Honestly, that sucked! The more I think about it, the more angry I get. No one goes there for the luxury accommodations. So I don't see a bright future for them if they keep this up.

    I'll call this a bit of educated speculation. But apparently, several days back, a disgruntled girl called the police and reported some illegal activity in the hotel. That brought the police in, caused some inspections and some big headaches for the hotel. So maybe a crackdown is part of the process. But it sucked. The bar downstairs was slightly less impacted but there were significantly less people. I'll also mention that most of the rooms at M1 were completely vacant last week. So take that for what it's worth. But it was very disappointing.

  4. #57672
    I think you were quite right to pay the fee and cut your losses. The girl knows she has much less to lose than any of us. She can continue escalating and making a nuisance of herself.

    Quote Originally Posted by ElPostino  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the tip. I am sure it can happen again. The way she hit that hard, the pain lasted for three days. I thought I had some internal head injury. Sooner reached back to US on fourth day, checked with my doctor. Luckily, no serious damage except little clotted blood in left ear.

    On safe side, I explained to the situation in reception and other office personnel. They asked me if I wanted to call the police but since I already knew what would happen just refused. They would blacklist her visiting the hotel which I don't believe as they see these very often to keep track of girls.

    I took the copy of her cedula from the hotel for safe side if anything happens involving her gangs later on ...

  5. #57671
    Quote Originally Posted by Surfer500  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately what you experienced goes with the territory.

    I've been in some similar situations where a Chica will not do what was agreed to or spend the time agreed to, and flip out, but never had one get physically violent with me. Albeit some may not agree with this, but you did the right thing by just paying her the full amount as promised to get her out. The last thing you want is a third party getting involved.

    My only suggestion would be when a Chica flips out, threatens to call the Police, etc. Do not pay them in the room. Instead, tell them you are going to pay them what you agreed to, have the money in your hand, and upon exiting the building hand them the money. The reason I suggest this is because the Chica may try to say you didn't pay her what you agreed to if a third party gets involved, or demand more in the room.

    You always want to diffuse the situation, versus escalate it when you have a "psycho" chica your dealing with, and paying her the full amount to leave was the right call, albeit there may be some other board members that don't agree with this.
    Thanks for the tip. I am sure it can happen again. The way she hit that hard, the pain lasted for three days. I thought I had some internal head injury. Sooner reached back to US on fourth day, checked with my doctor. Luckily, no serious damage except little clotted blood in left ear.

    On safe side, I explained to the situation in reception and other office personnel. They asked me if I wanted to call the police but since I already knew what would happen just refused. They would blacklist her visiting the hotel which I don't believe as they see these very often to keep track of girls.

    I took the copy of her cedula from the hotel for safe side if anything happens involving her gangs later on ...

  6. #57670
    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    This is not completely fair to facebook. I don't doubt any bit of your report but I think the facebook factor is coincidental. In other words, this sort of thing happens with girls from any source. Facebook, streets of Centro, mileroticos, etc. The least likely venue for this sort of misadventure are the casas.
    Of course, you are right! Not necessarily from Facebook. Heard horror stories of Tinder and Parque LLeras girls. My friend had similar experience from PL girls before. I am beginning to think the best bet is going to casas which are much safer. If you like the girl, you can always get her to hotel.

  7. #57669
    Quote Originally Posted by Elispio  [View Original Post]
    Valentina has probably pulled this off before and it's become part of her MO. She has multiple FB profiles and has been blowing up my messenger wanting to meet. Usually it's a red flag when they reach out and are that adamant. Not that I'd meet her as she's so not my type but thanks for the heads up! I'll toy around with her on messenger when I'm bored.
    Yes, I noticed that there are few girls with multiple profiles using different names. She seems to be a part of the group who target people around and share information on where they can get more money and get away with their attitude. Isa Guiterrez showed couple of her friends' pictures including zapata. They all look pretty in pics.

  8. #57668

    Side Trip from Medellin

    Brothers,

    Among the second tier cities below, which one has a thriving street scene and casa scene. Planning on a side trip for a few days from Medellin.

    Barranquilla.

    Bucaramanga.

    Pereira.

    Cucuta.

    Manizales.

    Santa Marta.

    Should I have not included Barranquilla since too big and should rather be compared to Cartagena and Cali than to the above cities?

  9. #57667

    Lleras logistics

    If I find a girl in Lleras park and don't want to go back to my Airbnb is there a go to motel to uber to that you recommend and is safe even when it gets dark out?

  10. #57666
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur62  [View Original Post]
    The Charles Schawab transaction was 345.09 USD and it corresponds to a rate of 4404 very close to the Google 4435.
    The weekend ATM rate is what the international exchange rate was Thursday. If you look at the Google exchange rate for Thursday (if you can), it should be right about 4404.

  11. #57665
    Quote Originally Posted by SteelDh  [View Original Post]
    I agree with you. I don't understand the hate for parque lleras. It's great for what it is a central pick up spot for girls with the added benefit of clubs / bars and restaurants surrounding the area. Yes the girls are quoting higher prices than centro. This board tends to skew older retirees with fixed incomes who prefer centro daytime action.
    I do not hate Parque Lleras. But I hate many of the foreigner guys that frequently go there. The ones that need constant attention "look at me look at me" syndrome. They overspend and then bring that to Centro and to other cities because most are 2 week millionaires. This screws up prices for guys that spend 6 months or more in Colombia and the locals. They flash cash making it rain like they are big dogs. Travel in groups a lot thus talking loudly so all their buddies and people 30 feet away can hear them. They video everyone and load it up on Twitter, FB, YouTube, and so on. One of these guys described above put a girl on a leash and walked around Parque Lleras last year and put it on YouTube. It was on all the news stations in Colombia. The mayor of Medellin was livid. Then the example below from just last week.

  12. #57664
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur62  [View Original Post]
    I do not have an explanation, but, apparently, if you refuse the proposed exchange rate with a 7. 5% margin, then Davidienda gives up, and makes the correct job. I do not have a better explanation, Do you?
    This is not new. It is always that way because the ATM bank wants to make money by charging you so always decline. It is the same thing here in Brazil where I currently am. I go to ATM to pull money out and they always ask if I want to go with their conversion or not, of course I declined and get what CS exchange rate is.

    Also keep in mind, when paying for anything like food, groceries, etc, the cashier asks if you want peso / dollar, always go with or pay with the country's currency as in peso in Colombia, not dollar. Your credit card / bank will do the exchange rate close to current rate.

  13. #57663
    Quote Originally Posted by AmorPorFavor  [View Original Post]
    Nice report. How much was the SA girl? Did she give BBBJ? Did you hook up with any FB chicas? What happened with the scopamine?
    SA girl was basically the high end of the range there, which again I'm not so proud of. Yes received BBBJ from here and the majority of the 5-6 chicas on the trip, with the exception of the threesome with the centro SWs. Only 1 chica went for no condom during sex, it just wasn't discussed (also she was the only good morning sex).

    No FB chicas, I guess it feels a little bit too personal for me to actually use FB in that capacity.

    Re: scopamine- after everything closed in El Poblado I was chatting with a group of 3 chicas. They said there was a place still open, and took me to a party bus wagon that drives you to Seven Club. A young Colombian guy kinda merged in our group and we were all drinking together. After arriving to the club, things got incredibly blurry for about an hour, and then I looked at the Colombian guy and he was passed out and throwing up, whereas the girls were fine. So that's when I suspected something bad happened, and I was able to pull myself together sufficiently to call an Uber and get out of there (dropped off the passed out Colombiano in El Poblado too). Felt pretty crappy for the next 2 days, but feel like I managed to dodge something much worse. Google Reviews of the place report similar experiences. Maybe it was something else or a low dosage because I snapped out of it eventually. I guess just a warning for anyone that gets on that party bus after the bars close in El Poblado, be very careful with what you drink / ingest.

    Anyways, I feel the need to get back on the horse, and I'm back to MDE this Friday. Anyone looking for a wingman? I'm trying to check out some more non-Poblado places this time!

  14. #57662
    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Santa Marta is safer than any other city I know in Colombia. The place is absolutely swarming with police. They are experiencing a real touist boom so there are police on almost every corner, trying to protect the golden goose.

    First time was with my LT GF. Second time was for a 3-some I couldn't turn down (could have been anywhere). 3rd time was cheap flights and only 2 nights with a girl that was begging me to go. Whereas I spent maybe 3 years in Santa Marta, on and off. Am there now.
    Thanks for the info. Are there any private beaches in Santa Marta? Or nice beach clubs? Where you are not bothered by vendors and don't have to watch your belongins while you are swimming.

  15. #57661
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur62  [View Original Post]
    Not a chica report, but I guess useful too.

    Today I wanted to take some pesos, without having to pay a fee or an outrageous margin on the exchange rate from USD to COP.

    The Davidienda cajero at east Poblado wanted to give me a 4073 pesos per 1 USD, and clearly showed a "the exchange margin is 7. 5%. That shit was not nice, so I cancel the transaction and went to the Tesoro mall to use Colpatria.

    Once at Tesoro, I found immediately another Davidenda, so I wanted to give it another try. Damn, my debit card exchange rate was the same 4073 shit. -pay attention here- At this point I wanted to cancel, but instead of pressing the cancel key I instead (by mistake) selected *I do not accept the exchange rate*. With my surprise, the ATM started giving me money. I was so hungry because I thought I had lost 7. 5% of 1. 520,000 COP = 114 k but instead there was a good surprise. The Charles Schawab transaction was 345.09 USD and it corresponds to a rate of 4404 very close to the Google 4435.

    I do not have an explanation, but, apparently, if you refuse the proposed exchange rate with a 7. 5% margin, then Davidienda gives up, and makes the correct job. I do not have a better explanation, Do you?
    You did what you were supposed to do, always decline the conversion rate and it'll use the worldwide wholesale rate. If I remember correctly, accept the ATM fee and then decline the conversion rate.

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