Medellin Reports

[Elvis 2008]

What is more pathetic are young guys with no game who have to live / travel to poor countries and use P4 P to get laid. I never had to buy pussy until I was in my 50's.

I do not get the "not paying for it" part. One time there was a stripper who gave me her number after taking care of me in the club. After texting her, her BF calls me and says "she does not do that (sex for money) any more. " he was so upset and heartbroken then I did not say what I wanted to which was "Dude, when did she say that? Because 10 minutes ago, my dick was in her mouth."

I just wonder what illusion this guy was under while he was "not paying for it." Was he fixing her car? Babysitting her kid?

I was married to a woman with an amazing figure: large natural breasts and a 24 inch waist. So I guess I could say that I did not pay for her, but OTOH she was the most expensive pussy I ever had.

And I talked to guys in the 1970's free love era. They said fucking was like a handshake then. When I was in college, the AIDS bug hit and everyone was scared out of their mind that if they had sex, they would die. It is totally unfair to compare those eras.

And when I went to a strip club back in 2000 when the dot com boom was going on, the women were gorgeous, and the type I like, the spinner type, was available in abundance. I went to a club the other day, and there was one (one!) spinner type, and she was from Cuba. Half the strippers were fat.

And in the 2000 decade, you could get a fucking knockout escort for $200. Now $200 an hour gets you 300 pounds. I perused an escort directory a few months ago and found one I liked. She wanted $1000 for an hour. Hell, if my ex were 25 and in the market today, she would have shredded guys with ivy league degrees making seven figures fighting over her.

From where I sit looking at the USA market, guys going to Colombia (and Mexico) and paying for it are the smart ones. The only decent looking women in strip clubs (and most of society now) are Latinas and Asians and going to the source nets you huge discounts.

And I am not "paying for it" now, but just like with the wife, it would be a helluva lot cheaper if I were. So I could look down on guys who are paying for it now but why? They are paying less for it than I am.

[Mr Enternational]

I love Jomtien in Thailand. Not as much party as in Pattaya but still some action in the evenings, you can go out solo, drink cheap, get a little drunk, have a lot of fun, play pool, watch sports, pick up a girl and go home. So I am planning to do this when visiting Colombia

Where do you plan to pick up the girl from? Laureles is not Pattaya.

[Lou32]

I love Jomtien in Thailand. Not as much party as in Pattaya but still some action in the evenings, you can go out solo, drink cheap, get a little drunk, have a lot of fun, play pool, watch sports, pick up a girl and go home. So I am planning to do this when visiting Colombia for the first time soon. I know a little Spanish so I was thinking about staying in Laureles instead of the reccomended newbie-destination Poblado. Poblado seem to be more expensive (Airbnb, Hotels, Bars, Food, Girls?) + it seem to be a lot of party for the younger crowd, I have grey hair and prefer a decent level of party:-the What do you think, does it work to go out solo and hang out with unknown people on bars if you are a solo gringo or will I just look like a fcking stranger? Better to stick to Poblado? Better to stay out of Colombia?

If you plan on going to Setenta be aware that very few people chill in the restaurants and bars alone so be prepared to take a nice young lady with you. There are gringo faces about and no one will care one way or the other in that area.

[LoveItHere69]

Scotia Bank / Colpatria ATM. Yesterday for the first time they showed a proposed conversion rate which was ridiculous with a 6% fee which I declined and then the transaction didn't go thru. I tried a second time and it didn't go thru.

I had the same thing happen (even though 2 years ago). I think it was BBVA. It cancelled my transaction as soon as I declined the conversion. Tried weeks later and same thing. The ATM cancelled my transaction and spit my card out.

[Mr Enternational]

The average income is over 4 million pesos per month. Most people that throw out Colombian income are going from the Colombian minimum wage (and including the transportation subsidy).

However, neither number is particularly useful.

I disagree. If a chick could make 4 million on a regular job then she probably would not be hoeing. I know one person's junk is another person's treasure, but if she is not worth 4 million on a regular job market where she would undergo more screening than I could possibly give, then she damn sure is not worth 4 million pesos to me.

[ILikeButts]

Various suggestions have been made of late for splitting this thread into separate forums. How about:

--One for sharing useful information and instructive or entertaining experiences in Paisa Pussyland;.

--and one (lets call it Ego-Tripping in Medellin) for making smug, snarky, judgmental comments about other Board Members.

Nil thank you for being the voice of reason. I too would prefer information over personal attacks.

[JjBee62]

These are the standard prices on Medellin. Your costs may vary.

Street girls - 30-40 k in El Centro, 200-250 k in Parque Lleras.

Casas - 50-60 k for half hrs, 80-100 k for hour. Some places charge more.

Tinder - 200-400 k for hour, some want more.

Facebook - 150-400 k for 1-2 hours.

Photoprepagos and Mileroticos- 80-150 k per hour.

Strip Clubs- from 80 k to over 300 k for 30-45 minutes.

Casas, strip clubs, Photoprepagos and Mileroticos are generally in-call. You're doing the deed on their property. Facebook and Tinder are in your place. All of the above may require extra payment for BBBJ, BBFS and anal. Outcall girls they may require extra for taxi fare.

What you should pay is what works for you. Those prices are guidelines. Many girls will give a much higher price at first. Knowing what is standard will help you to keep it reasonable.

[JjBee62]

I love Jomtien in Thailand. Not as much party as in Pattaya but still some action in the evenings, you can go out solo, drink cheap, get a little drunk, have a lot of fun, play pool, watch sports, pick up a girl and go home. So I am planning to do this when visiting Colombia for the first time soon. I know a little Spanish so I was thinking about staying in Laureles instead of the reccomended newbie-destination Poblado. Poblado seem to be more expensive (Airbnb, Hotels, Bars, Food, Girls?) + it seem to be a lot of party for the younger crowd, I have grey hair and prefer a decent level of party:-the What do you think, does it work to go out solo and hang out with unknown people on bars if you are a solo gringo or will I just look like a fcking stranger? Better to stick to Poblado? Better to stay out of Colombia?

Colombia isn't Thailand. What works in Thailand won't necessarily work in Colombia.

There are risks. The biggest risk is that someone might drug you and rob you. You might wake up feeling bad and missing your stuff, or they might find your body 2 weeks later.

How big of a risk depends on you. There are a few bars frequented by gringos were you will be safer.

Another issue is that Colombia doesn't have many bars where girls hang out waiting for customers. There are strip clubs and there are bars in El Centro where girls try to get you to buy overpriced drinks. There are a few other places where you can find a few girls working, but you might visit 10 bars before finding a girl.

[Andersson25]

I love Jomtien in Thailand. Not as much party as in Pattaya but still some action in the evenings, you can go out solo, drink cheap, get a little drunk, have a lot of fun, play pool, watch sports, pick up a girl and go home. So I am planning to do this when visiting Colombia for the first time soon. I know a little Spanish so I was thinking about staying in Laureles instead of the reccomended newbie-destination Poblado. Poblado seem to be more expensive (Airbnb, Hotels, Bars, Food, Girls?) + it seem to be a lot of party for the younger crowd, I have grey hair and prefer a decent level of party:-the What do you think, does it work to go out solo and hang out with unknown people on bars if you are a solo gringo or will I just look like a fcking stranger? Better to stick to Poblado? Better to stay out of Colombia?

[Surfer500]

My sex life certainly improved in my early 30's when I started paying for sex. No more BS gender / society games, pretending your interested in a girl, just so that you can get in to her kinckers, no more need to go to clubs, restaurants, pubs and go thru the chatting up ritual. My god, it was pathetic. But each to his own. I guess you enjoyed it.

It's interesting when and why guys become mongers. So many stories I've heard as to why, ranging from a divorce to becoming a widower and for other reasons. I started after being married for twenty years and divorcing and was around 50. I can relate to sex being a totally better as a monger. And if I knew what I know now, I probably would of never been married, as the thought of having sex with a woman your same age, and over and over again is just incomprehensible. The only thing I got out of being married was two great children, and other than for procreating, marriage seems like a total waste at least to me.

I will never forget the first time I went to the Hotel Del Rey in the CR over a decade ago when the place was full of Colombians, and guys would show up who where in the process of getting divorced and a few totally out of their minds with the torment of going thru a divorce and the Colombians would approach the guys, and boom with a Benjamin Franklin in hand, they would be upstairs, and some would be back down in less than 30 minutes, and the Colombians would be back downstairs with a Cheshire Cat look on their face while prowling for another guy down and out on their luck in the Del Rey.

And the stories of some of the widowers being married to the same women for over thirty years and had never had sex with a different woman. One widower told me he had never had oral sex with his wife, and probably only ever fucked her in missionary. Imagine guys like this all of a sudden getting exposed to everything under the sun as a monger.

It's all good as far as I'm concerned being a monger.

[Nounce]

I would like to have a link of a couple of those Instagram models you mentioned....

He posted one link. Look up his old post. But you don't really need to do it. If you just want to get an idea about their appearance, you can pretty much look up girls on IG from Medellin, and assume everyone is for sale at a price, just like many other countries.

A friend who spoke to an agency here told me you can get an exclusive catalog for high price hookers with a deposit, including some popular IG girls.

[JjBee62]

I would also like to ask - How was your sex life when you were 49? And how did it change when you started paying fro sex when you hit the 50's? Did it improve when you started paying for it? In which case, don't you think it was you that was pathetic for not paying for it before?

My sex life certainly improved in my early 30's when I started paying for sex. No more BS gender / society games, pretending your interested in a girl, just so that you can get in to her kinckers, no more need to go to clubs, restaurants, pubs and go thru the chatting up ritual. My god, it was pathetic. But each to his own. I guess you enjoyed it.

To be honest, in my 30's and 40's I saw no reason to monger. I would on occasion pickup a hooker, but mostly out of boredom. Only 1 of them was worth the effort. Finding girls for sex wasn't difficult. No silly games, or other BS. Just chat a bit, meet and fuck. Sometimes I bought us dinner, sometimes they cooked for me. Often I was an afternoon booty call while the husband was at work. No, I don't feel guilty about that. I was doing the husbands a favor. If she's going to fuck around, better she does it with someone who won't give her a disease, knock her up, or try to break up the marriage.

Through much of my 40's I was in a committed relationship with a swinger, giving me the best of both worlds. On the weekends we'd go to a club and I usually fucked 2 or 3 different women (while their husbands fucked my girl), watched plenty of girl on girl, with participation before blowing my load in my girl. After we split, tried dating a few times but nothing special.

Then 1 night I met a girl at a bar for a date and she was hideous. Maybe 10 teeth and she was a chain smoker. Stopped dating right there. There had already been a few episodes when I realized I was no longer enjoying the women who were readily available to me.

Through most of my 50's I mongered, both locally and in Colombia, with one trip to the DR. The women who are readily available are young, fit and beautiful, plus I can afford it now. In my 30's paying for sex was a strain on the budget.

While the sex is often great, it's rarely the best sex of my life. I'm always aware that she's there for the money. She might like me, she might enjoy her time with me, but without the money it's not happening. Another factor is my age. It's hard to go at it the way I once did.

Now I have a girlfriend again. Yes, she's in it for the money, but it's not as obvious. It's not perfect. We get along quite well and sexually, if I'm willing to make the effort, I can rock her world. However, I'm not sure I want anything permanent. I enjoy my alone time and I'm not sure how long 1 girl is going to interest me.

For guys in their 20's and 30's who are only doing p4 p, I don't have a problem with it. In my opinion they are missing out on some of the best stuff in life, but maybe those things aren't of interest to them.

[Gabacho]

Was at Rio Negro Airport yesterday and tried using the Scotia Bank / Colpatria ATM by entrance 4 on the departure level. I've been using this machine for at least two years and yesterday for the first time they showed a proposed conversion rate which was ridiculous with a 6% fee which I declined and then the transaction didn't go thru. I tried a second time and it didn't go thru. So I thought when declining you would be given whatever the market rate is.

I typically only make ATM with drawls from the ScotiaBank ATM at the EXITO in Poblado and have never seen a proposed conversion rate before on the transaction screens. I know a lot other Colombian banks are doing the conversion thing, however this is the first time I've seen it at ScotiaBank / Colpatria and I don't like it, it was almost like the bank was saying take what we are offering, or leave it as we won't be giving you the market rate.

I think your transaction was declined due to some other reason besides not accepting the conversion rate. It could have been a number of issues as to why it was declined, it could have even been something not to do with your card like maybe the ATM didn't have enough cash left to dispense the amount you were trying to withdraw.

I know one day Davivienda was declining me for no apparent reason I could figure out but then I went to BBVA and my card worked fine. And the next day I went to Davivienda agn and it worked fine and has been ever since.

Usually if one ATM doesn't work just try another one.

-abacho.

[JjBee62]

Why'all hear about the dude that died. A sweet Georgia Cafe regular and a firefighter that's been missing since the 6th. Lived in Bello.

Fucked up!

Yes. Heard about it, but he lived in Belen, not Bello. I didn't know he was a firefighter. Now I'll have to look at it again because I know a retired firefighter who would be about the right age.

[JjBee62]

Higher priced and most times just obviously better looking.

You'll be suprised how many of these girls will be going.

And this is the point I make about different surroundings.

If you go to centro or use fb and pull girls from dirt poor neighborhoods you're going to see one thing.

Then if you pull an IG model who lives in Envigado and goes out once in a while to make extra $$, there is a very clear difference.

I'm not here to judge anyones taste in women. As long as you're happy spending 40 mil or 4 million. It doesn't matter how one goes about their biz.

But it seems like the ones most stuck in their ways are the ones that think these girls shouldn't be paid etc etc. And meanwhile they are walking around with the newest iPhones and bags etc etc.

Higher price doesn't mean worst service.

And also when using the country's average income remember Colombia is a very very big country.

And while most parts are poor if you take only medellin and Bogota average income the number would probably be higher. I don't know exacts. But if you stay in poblado do you feel like you're in a third world country??

The average income is over 4 million pesos per month. Most people that throw out Colombian income are going from the Colombian minimum wage (and including the transportation subsidy).

However, neither number is particularly useful.