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  1. #10780
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    mRNA vaccines for corona-type viruses had been in the pipeline for a number of years.
    So what?

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Your aversion to COVID vaccines is undermined by the fact that billions of doses have been administered with the only drawback being a somewhat "return to normal" due to the reduction of infections
    Again, what are you talking about? A spokesman for Pfizer was deposed in Europe and said the vaccine does not prevent transmission.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    The growth of an underworld of vermin who not only doesn't trust science, but doesn't have the intellectual gravitas to understand it.
    Here is the science. When the vaccines were approved by the FDA, they were done with a strain of Covid where vaccines did prevent transmission. That was gone about 6 months later. The vaccines had zero to do with death. In fact, people getting the vaccine had a higher death rate than people who did not get it (the placebo group). That is the science. Period.

    Once the vaccines were below being 50% effective, they should have been thrown in the trash. However, Biden and his merry band of followers doubled down on the vaccines working and said that if you get the vaccines, you will not get Covid. And of course, since then, every government and pharmacy advocate blowhard who was vaxxed x infinity has gotten Covid.

    If you were to actually get out of your shell and educate yourself on both sides of the equation and watch right wing media, or even guys like Jimmy Dore, you would see countless videos of people telling you how not to get Covid and then the videos of announcement of their coming down with it themselves. That you still want to worship these so called experts says all we need to know about you. You sir are the one who is not educated. The latest so called expert to come down with Covid is CDC director Rachel Wallensky.

    You know what science is not about? Censorship, and we are seeing that same band of so called experts you worship back tracking so quickly on the censorship issue it is not even funny, but again, you know nothing about that. It is not in the news sources you look at.

    On a personal note, I have been in Mexico studying Spanish, and my teacher asked about the vaccine. I told her the side effects from it were woefully underreported. Every one I talked to had pain in the arm the day after the vaccine not from the shot itself. That was an immune reaction. I have said I was vaccinated twice: the first dose was to prevent my getting Covid and the second was purely for political purposes so I could travel but the second dose resulted in an injection site so tender that for 3 days if anyone even slightly touched me there, I winced in pain. It was no big deal but to me it was a sign to not get any more of the fucking vaccines.

    Well, my teacher had no such luck. The first shot was the same as mine but the second led to an immune response that affected not just her arm but her whole body. She went from walking miles to yards and suffered from God awful heart palpitations for months. Worse, her husband ragged on her for not getting boosted and it led to her divorce. Her colleagues gave her crap as they were boosted x infinity as well while she resisted. It was like manna from heaven for her to have someone educated tell her this reaction was not in her head. Of course, you have already decided that people who suffered like her should be ignored.

    What is worse though was my going to Walmart in Mexico and there was a ridiculous policy in place about mask wearing. I wanted to say, "So the Walmarts in the USA do not give a shit about people dying from Covid?

    The reason the blue states finally opened up is that people had enough. Hell, Bill Maher was on his show every week bitching about how playing in red states was so much easier than blue ones. So maybe you did not get this. People abandoned the so called experts politically, and I would bet right now you go on a plane or go shopping without a mask. If so, my question to you is why? The virus is still out there spreading and killing people.

    What has changed us that the Ukraine war used as an excuse to get it off the headlines and the blowhard experts have had their mikes taken away by the government telling the media to do so. The left wing media knew what was coming if they still preached they knew all with Covid.

    After all this, I am saddened to see that there are still people abroad like here in Mexico who have not gotten the memo. I would like to ask who in their right mind would listen to these so called experts ever again? And then there are people like you who have no clue to what these so called experts have done to the American people, the people of the world, and the children of the world.

    What kills me is you have right wing media outlets that show Fauci backtracking like crazy on shutting the schools down, and you are like, "Oh, no my God Fauci, you are a scientist who did right by the world and shutting the schools down was the right thing to do to save children's lives."

    I thought the worst part of Covid would be the economics of it, but I was wrong. The worst is what has happened to the children. And for what?

  2. #10779

    Please name one company

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    Another one that has drunk the KoolAid. Legitimate concerns about the adequcy of testing does nlot equate to an "aversion to COVID vaccines". And if you think that there was only one drawback, you are deluded. The policies enacted by Western and many other governments destroyed millions of lives and livelihoods. And the issue is that those policies were based faulty research.
    Please name one company that was required to test for A, b and c to get approval for something but decided on their own to test for A, b, c, d, E, F, G and H.

    The vaccine companies were not required to test for anything other than what they tested for. Period.

  3. #10778
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    The problem with your "science" is that the research provided by your "source" is invalid. Lew Rockwell dot com is only slightly more credible than Marjorie Taylor Greene.
    On what way is the science invalid? The BM posted an article that referred to research and widely reported events. You can even watch those same events on line. There is no dispute. Attack the message, not the messenger.

  4. #10777
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Your aversion to COVID vaccines is undermined by the fact that billions of doses have been administered with the only drawback being a somewhat "return to normal
    Another one that has drunk the KoolAid. Legitimate concerns about the adequcy of testing does nlot equate to an "aversion to COVID vaccines". And if you think that there was only one drawback, you are deluded. The policies enacted by Western and many other governments destroyed millions of lives and livelihoods. And the issue is that those policies were based faulty research.

  5. #10776
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiSammy  [View Original Post]
    Quoting Breitbart? Do you have any facts, or just Fox news and Breitbart propaganda?
    That's preposterous! He also quotes RT and Sputnik.

  6. #10775
    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]
    February 9, 2021, I published an article that clarified the medical and legal definitions of a "vaccine. " In the article, I noted that mRNA COVID-19 jabs did not meet those definitions, in part because they don't prevent infection or spread. In reality, they're experimental gene therapies. In July that year, The New York Times published a hit piece on me citing that February 9 article:1.

    "The article that appeared online on Feb. 9 began with a seemingly innocuous question about the legal definition of vaccines. Then over its next 3,400 words, it declared coronavirus vaccines were 'a medical fraud' and said the injections did not prevent infections, provide immunity or stop transmission of the disease.

    Instead, the article claimed, the shots 'alter your genetic coding, turning you into a viral protein factory that has no off-switch. ' Its assertions were easily disprovable.".

    Pfizer Moved 'at the Speed of Science'.

    Fast-forward to early October 2022, and my claims were officially confirmed during a COVID hearing in the European Parliament. Dutch member Rob Roos questioned Pfizer's president of international developed markets, Janine Small, about whether Pfizer had in fact tested and confirmed that their mRNA jab would prevent transmission prior to its rollout.

    As noted by Roos, the entire premise behind COVID shot mandates and vaccine passports was that by taking the shot, you would protect others, as it would prevent infection and spread of COVID-19. Small replied:

    "No. We had to really move at the speed of science to understand what is happening in the market. And we had to do everything at risk. "2.

    This means the COVID passport was based on a big lie. The only purpose of the COVID passport: forcing people to get vaccinated. I find this shocking even criminal. Rob Roos, MEP.

    In the video below, biologist and nurse teacher John Campbell, Ph. The. , reviews this growing scandal. He points out that you. K. Government officials emphatically assured the public that everything that was normally done in clinical trials for a vaccine was done for the COVID shots. Now we're told that was not the case after all.

    The question is why? According to Small, these basic trials were not done because they "had to move at the speed of science. " But just what does that mean? As noted by Campbell, these are "just words without meaning. " It's complete nonsense.

    Moreover, what does it mean to "do everything at risk"? Campbell admits he has no idea what that means. I don't either, but were I to venture a guess, I'the guess it means they knowingly skipped certain testing even though they knew the risks of doing so.

    So, by October 2020, at the latest, it was clear that no studies had been done to determine whether the shots actually prevented transmission, which is a prerequisite for the claim that you'll save the lives of others if you take it. . .

    As I stated in February 2021, the shots are a medical fraud. A true vaccine prevents infection; COVID shots don't. Hence, they've also been fraudulently marketed. Governments around the world enabled this marketing fraud and media promulgated it.

    As a result of mandating COVID shots and vaccine passports based on a blatant lie, millions have suffered potentially permanent harm and / or have died. Millions have also lost their jobs, forfeited careers and missed out on educational opportunities. This all happened because we DIDN'T follow the science.

    Why did government agencies go along with what was, to anyone with a microgram of critical thinking skills, an apparent fraud? Probably, because they're in on it. As reported by investigative journalist Paul Thacker, the same PR company that serves Moderna and Pfizer also staffs the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Division of Viral Diseases team. . .

    In late September 2022, Doshi published a risk-benefit analysis focused on serious adverse events observed in Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID trials. Reanalysis of the data showed 1 in 800 who get a COVID shot suffers a serious injury. As detailed in Doshi's paper:13.

    "Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 respectively.

    Combined, the mRNA vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 12.5 per 10,000 vaccinated; risk ratio 1. 43.

    The Pfizer trial exhibited a 36 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group. The Moderna trial exhibited a 6 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group. Combined, there was a 16 % higher risk of serious adverse events in mRNA vaccine recipients.".

    Full article: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/10/...est-nightmare/.
    The problem with your "science" is that the research provided by your "source" is invalid. Lew Rockwell dot com is only slightly more credible than Marjorie Taylor Greene.

  7. #10774
    Quote Originally Posted by Travv  [View Original Post]
    February 9, 2021, I published an article that clarified the medical and legal definitions of a "vaccine. " In the article, I noted that mRNA COVID-19 jabs did not meet those definitions, in part because they don't prevent infection or spread. In reality, they're experimental gene therapies. In July that year, The New York Times published a hit piece on me citing that February 9 article:1.

    "The article that appeared online on Feb. 9 began with a seemingly innocuous question about the legal definition of vaccines. Then over its next 3,400 words, it declared coronavirus vaccines were 'a medical fraud' and said the injections did not prevent infections, provide immunity or stop transmission of the disease.

    Instead, the article claimed, the shots 'alter your genetic coding, turning you into a viral protein factory that has no off-switch. ' Its assertions were easily disprovable.".

    Pfizer Moved 'at the Speed of Science'.

    Fast-forward to early October 2022, and my claims were officially confirmed during a COVID hearing in the European Parliament. Dutch member Rob Roos questioned Pfizer's president of international developed markets, Janine Small, about whether Pfizer had in fact tested and confirmed that their mRNA jab would prevent transmission prior to its rollout.

    As noted by Roos, the entire premise behind COVID shot mandates and vaccine passports was that by taking the shot, you would protect others, as it would prevent infection and spread of COVID-19. Small replied:

    "No. We had to really move at the speed of science to understand what is happening in the market. And we had to do everything at risk. "2.

    This means the COVID passport was based on a big lie. The only purpose of the COVID passport: forcing people to get vaccinated. I find this shocking even criminal. Rob Roos, MEP.

    In the video below, biologist and nurse teacher John Campbell, Ph. The. , reviews this growing scandal. He points out that you. K. Government officials emphatically assured the public that everything that was normally done in clinical trials for a vaccine was done for the COVID shots. Now we're told that was not the case after all.

    The question is why? According to Small, these basic trials were not done because they "had to move at the speed of science. " But just what does that mean? As noted by Campbell, these are "just words without meaning. " It's complete nonsense.

    Moreover, what does it mean to "do everything at risk"? Campbell admits he has no idea what that means. I don't either, but were I to venture a guess, I'the guess it means they knowingly skipped certain testing even though they knew the risks of doing so.

    So, by October 2020, at the latest, it was clear that no studies had been done to determine whether the shots actually prevented transmission, which is a prerequisite for the claim that you'll save the lives of others if you take it. . .

    As I stated in February 2021, the shots are a medical fraud. A true vaccine prevents infection; COVID shots don't. Hence, they've also been fraudulently marketed. Governments around the world enabled this marketing fraud and media promulgated it.

    As a result of mandating COVID shots and vaccine passports based on a blatant lie, millions have suffered potentially permanent harm and / or have died. Millions have also lost their jobs, forfeited careers and missed out on educational opportunities. This all happened because we DIDN'T follow the science.

    Why did government agencies go along with what was, to anyone with a microgram of critical thinking skills, an apparent fraud? Probably, because they're in on it. As reported by investigative journalist Paul Thacker, the same PR company that serves Moderna and Pfizer also staffs the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Division of Viral Diseases team. . .

    In late September 2022, Doshi published a risk-benefit analysis focused on serious adverse events observed in Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID trials. Reanalysis of the data showed 1 in 800 who get a COVID shot suffers a serious injury. As detailed in Doshi's paper:13.

    "Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 respectively.

    Combined, the mRNA vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 12.5 per 10,000 vaccinated; risk ratio 1. 43.

    The Pfizer trial exhibited a 36 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group. The Moderna trial exhibited a 6 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group. Combined, there was a 16 % higher risk of serious adverse events in mRNA vaccine recipients.".

    Full article: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/10/...est-nightmare/.
    mRNA vaccines for corona-type viruses had been in the pipeline for a number of years. Your aversion to COVID vaccines is undermined by the fact that billions of doses have been administered with the only drawback being a somewhat "return to normal" due to the reduction of infections and the growth of an underworld of vermin who not only doesn't trust science, but doesn't have the intellectual gravitas to understand it.

  8. #10773
    Quoting Breitbart? Do you have any facts, or just Fox news and Breitbart propaganda?

  9. #10772
    That's an excellent article. Thanks for posting. Also a very funny thumbnail. Hehe.

  10. #10771

  11. #10770
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    It is reported as 45 billion pounds in tax cuts,
    Excellent example of how the biased, left leaning main stream media programs people. The cost of the component of the tax plan to cut the maximum rate from 45% to 40% was 2 billion as I clearly said. The left leaning mainstream media in most instances conveniently failed to mention that cuts in stamp duties, a health care levy, going back on a plan to raise the corporate tax rate, and a small middle class tax cut were also included in the 45 billion in reduced collections.

    Great catch on the websites. That was a real gotcha moment. I guess you think that the networks on air coverage is to the right of the videos and other content they publish on their web sites. And the newspapers paper versions are far different from their web content.

    And sorry. I've resolved not to argue with Democrats, Trumpsters and cult members. This was bugging me though.

  12. #10769

    The Speed of (Vaccine) Science. . . A Scandal Beyond Your Worst Nightmare

    February 9, 2021, I published an article that clarified the medical and legal definitions of a "vaccine. " In the article, I noted that mRNA COVID-19 jabs did not meet those definitions, in part because they don't prevent infection or spread. In reality, they're experimental gene therapies. In July that year, The New York Times published a hit piece on me citing that February 9 article:1.

    "The article that appeared online on Feb. 9 began with a seemingly innocuous question about the legal definition of vaccines. Then over its next 3,400 words, it declared coronavirus vaccines were 'a medical fraud' and said the injections did not prevent infections, provide immunity or stop transmission of the disease.

    Instead, the article claimed, the shots 'alter your genetic coding, turning you into a viral protein factory that has no off-switch. ' Its assertions were easily disprovable.".

    Pfizer Moved 'at the Speed of Science'.

    Fast-forward to early October 2022, and my claims were officially confirmed during a COVID hearing in the European Parliament. Dutch member Rob Roos questioned Pfizer's president of international developed markets, Janine Small, about whether Pfizer had in fact tested and confirmed that their mRNA jab would prevent transmission prior to its rollout.

    As noted by Roos, the entire premise behind COVID shot mandates and vaccine passports was that by taking the shot, you would protect others, as it would prevent infection and spread of COVID-19. Small replied:

    "No. We had to really move at the speed of science to understand what is happening in the market. And we had to do everything at risk. "2.

    This means the COVID passport was based on a big lie. The only purpose of the COVID passport: forcing people to get vaccinated. I find this shocking — even criminal. Rob Roos, MEP.

    In the video below, biologist and nurse teacher John Campbell, Ph. The. , reviews this growing scandal. He points out that you. K. Government officials emphatically assured the public that everything that was normally done in clinical trials for a vaccine was done for the COVID shots. Now we're told that was not the case after all.

    The question is why? According to Small, these basic trials were not done because they "had to move at the speed of science. " But just what does that mean? As noted by Campbell, these are "just words without meaning. " It's complete nonsense.

    Moreover, what does it mean to "do everything at risk"? Campbell admits he has no idea what that means. I don't either, but were I to venture a guess, I'the guess it means they knowingly skipped certain testing even though they knew the risks of doing so.

    So, by October 2020, at the latest, it was clear that no studies had been done to determine whether the shots actually prevented transmission, which is a prerequisite for the claim that you'll save the lives of others if you take it. . .

    As I stated in February 2021, the shots are a medical fraud. A true vaccine prevents infection; COVID shots don't. Hence, they've also been fraudulently marketed. Governments around the world enabled this marketing fraud and media promulgated it.

    As a result of mandating COVID shots and vaccine passports based on a blatant lie, millions have suffered potentially permanent harm and / or have died. Millions have also lost their jobs, forfeited careers and missed out on educational opportunities. This all happened because we DIDN'T follow the science.

    Why did government agencies go along with what was, to anyone with a microgram of critical thinking skills, an apparent fraud? Probably, because they're in on it. As reported by investigative journalist Paul Thacker, the same PR company that serves Moderna and Pfizer also staffs the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's Division of Viral Diseases team. . .

    In late September 2022, Doshi published a risk-benefit analysis focused on serious adverse events observed in Pfizer's and Moderna's COVID trials. Reanalysis of the data showed 1 in 800 who get a COVID shot suffers a serious injury. As detailed in Doshi's paper:13.

    "Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 respectively.

    Combined, the mRNA vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 12.5 per 10,000 vaccinated; risk ratio 1. 43.

    The Pfizer trial exhibited a 36 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group. The Moderna trial exhibited a 6 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group. Combined, there was a 16 % higher risk of serious adverse events in mRNA vaccine recipients.".

    Full article: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/10/...est-nightmare/.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustTK  [View Original Post]
    "The science was on our side, You must get vaxd to prevent transmission, you do it not for yourself but for others, we will impose a vaccine to stop transmission.".

    All lies! It was always so fuckn obvious. Pfizer never even tested their vax on preventing transmission prior to its launch. But yet this was the foundation to the vax mandates and the global campaign against anti-vaxxers.

    Now, how can you EVER, EVER, trust these people again? JD is so correct they are criminal liars, supported by our leaders and sychophantic media. "The 'Ruling Class' in every country are the enemy of the human race".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeyHfwCshPk
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails acc53e75a21669fbb2e790d9e731448c3b17b3c6da78816a83e1d52ecdcfee15.jpg‎  

  13. #10768

    COVID vaccines

    "The science was on our side, You must get vaxd to prevent transmission, you do it not for yourself but for others, we will impose a vaccine to stop transmission.".

    All lies! It was always so fuckn obvious. Pfizer never even tested their vax on preventing transmission prior to its launch. But yet this was the foundation to the vax mandates and the global campaign against anti-vaxxers.

    Now, how can you EVER, EVER, trust these people again? JD is so correct – they are criminal liars, supported by our leaders and sychophantic media. "The 'Ruling Class' in every country are the enemy of the human race".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeyHfwCshPk

  14. #10767

    Online Coverage Only & Mr. Hartmann

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Tooms, Your wish is my command! Here is reason and evidence.

    Network News:

    ABC News, Lean Left: https://www.allsides.com/news-source...ews-media-bias
    CBS News, Lean Left: https://www.allsides.com/news-source...ews-media-bias
    NBC News, Lean Left: https://www.allsides.com/news-source...ews-media-bias

    ....
    Nice try buckeroo! Tiny 12, try reading the fine print on the Allsides website. ONLY online coverage applies.

    AllSides Media Bias RatingsTM are based on multi-partisan, scientific analysis. Unless otherwise noted, this bias rating refers only to online news coverage, not TV, print, or radio content.

    ABC News, Lean Left: https://www.allsides.com/news-source/abc-news-media-bias

    et al. allsides.com references
    You, always fail to address the 1,500+ right-wing radio stations and the 200+ right-wing Spanish radio stations.

    According to Mr. Hartmann that you listen to:

    Why Is Talk Radio So Right-Wing? (And How Can The Left Compete?)
    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2021/...-left-compete/

  15. #10766

    Again. Of course your links prove it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    My theory? It's not a theory, it's a fact.

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sinclair-broadcast-group

    https://www.politifact.com/article/2...eed-know-facts

    Of course, the FCC fine quashed their insatiable appetites somewhat, but they're still teaching 40% of USA households the virtues of Trumpism.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/06/b...-fine-fcc.html

    First, I have no idea why you were inclined to link Orange Fruitcake's statements in this rebuttal.

    So why?

    Second, I linked the article that clearly states that out of 15 radio shows in this country 12 are conservative. Surely (insert your Airplane joke here), you won't insist that they're broadcasting into the vacuum. So whatever you think or I think or anyone else thinks is anecdotal at best. It's all about the numbers.
    Mainstream Media will unavoidably appear to be "left leaning" for much of the time simply because they are forced by legal and ethical circumstances to accurately report Dem achievements and positive results and Repub nothingness or crap results.

    However, as I apparently must repeat in order to hope a tiny trickle seeps in to some winger heads someday, come election time it is a MSM Pro Repub Spin Fest!

    They LOVE those Here's Another Repub Disaster Result headlines and see very little market or financial value in featuring boring, positive Dem results headlines.

    At the very least MSM is hell bent to make the horse race as neck in neck close and exciting as any Dem-denigrating and Repub-elevating Bothsiderism spin can make it. Which, also as I have pointed out previously, in a world where MSM produces election outcomes on a knife's edge margin, all too often the crap results Repubs will win even if only by accident.

    Either way, that is MSM helping Repubs win elections even if their initial intention was only to tighten the horse race for the sake of attention grabbing excitement.

    Seriously, folks. There is no way a Repub should ever have won the White House again after Reagan's first term, a Repub should have ever been Speaker of the House again after double government closure, total obstructionist and only Clinton dick-sniffing failure Gingrich or a Repub Senate Leader again after what we have all witnessed in Moscow Mitch.

    Yet, since those Repub disasters first plopped in our laps we have seen even loonier and worse Repub stewardship and results while at the same time the horse races got tighter!

    That could never have happened without Herculean pro Repub spinning efforts by MSM to make it so come every election time.

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