Bangkok Reports

[BeachDrone]

60 day visa vs 45 plus extension to get you to 60 days.
One requires a Pain in the Butt trip to immigration to get the 60 days. Guess which one. No thank you.
The other one 30 minutes on a computer. This also doesn't require playing around with airline tickets.

Agree. I'm planning to be in the kingdom 58 days, easier to get a 60-day tourist visa online before leaving for $40. No wasted time at immigration.

[11Bravo]

IMHO, there is validity to what you say in this particular post. It is much easier to get the 60-day Thai E Visa than to get the 45-day passport entry plus extension. But, I'm raising the BS flag on that being only 30 minutes on the computer, I've done it twice and would estimate it will take me 1.5 hours when I do it a third time. There are quite a few files that need to be gathered and submitted in proper form, that takes time. Heck, it took me 30 minutes to get a selfie that the automatic photo review accepted. My guess is a first time E-Visa will need more than 1.5 hours to complete the application.

Regarding not playing around with airline, that is a false statement. You must submit your arrival airline paperwork and planned date of departure.

My first E-visa required 6 days to process. The second required 12 days. If I recall, the price was $40 US.

Consulate website said 15 business days to process, no expedited method. Like I posted, mine came faster, but you never know. Requirement for hotel reservations for full time between arrival and departure (and I confirmed that via e-mail with the consulate, as in I asked if I was going to travel around but not certain where, response was fine, full itinerary first, then apply; TIT), or, get an invitation letter. And yes, the photo that was good enough to use for my PASSPORT was rejected several times as not having an acceptable complexion (think their software needs some tweaking, or it could be my blinding brilliance). Luckily, the photo of me holding my passport passed the first time.

My point, if you don't need the extra 15 days, go for on-arrival. And mine is a single entry, so personally, if I was staying longer, I'd take the opportunity to pop over to another country, tool around there for awhile, then come back. Then you're talking 90 (though I'll admit I don't know if there is any gap requirement between 2 consecutive visits). Confirm $40 USD. Proof of residence and proof of residence within consulate's service area (2 different uploads).

PS: Lesson learned the hard way: if your return ticket has a date past the visa expiration date, the incoming airline doesn't let you on the plane UNLESS you have a CONFIRMED reservation out to that intermediate country. They want to see a departure ticket within the visa limit.

[Alex Alexa]

IMHO, there is validity to what you say in this particular post. It is much easier to get the 60-day Thai E Visa than to get the 45-day passport entry plus extension. But, I'm raising the BS flag on that being only 30 minutes on the computer, I've done it twice and would estimate it will take me 1.5 hours when I do it a third time. There are quite a few files that need to be gathered and submitted in proper form, that takes time. Heck, it took me 30 minutes to get a selfie that the automatic photo review accepted. My guess is a first time E-Visa will need more than 1.5 hours to complete the application.

Regarding not playing around with airline, that is a false statement. You must submit your arrival airline paperwork and planned date of departure.

My first E-visa required 6 days to process. The second required 12 days. If I recall, the price was $40 US.

When I mean no airline games I mean at check in.

To get Visa airline reservation is required. Just buy a ticket on Expedia, get confirmation then cancel. Not hard.

Same with Hostel reservation. Buy on Expedia 30 days for $150 hahaha. They even have option to pay when check in so no transaction on credit card at all. Cancel once you have confirm. Not hard.

When I say 30 minutes that's assuming you have all your Ducks lined up.

[HorseTrader]

And I thought some of the requirements here a bit bothersome (and stupid), as in paid accommodation reservations for the FULL stay, along with incoming and outgoing plane tickets. But, not THAT big a problem. But I won't be using the full 60, not even close.

Months ago the accommodations had to be paid through the 2nd COVID test, I think that was just 5 days. Now it is just proof of accommodations, not specific for duration. I submitted my first hotel, which was a 4-day reservation that will be paid on my arrival. When I did my second Visa application, they only requested airline arrival information and expected departure date. No specific departure data required.

Still requires sign the declaration, passport photo, photo holding passport, selfie, proof of funds, and proof of residency. Maybe some other stuff that I can't remember at the moment. It does take some time to gather and submit.

[11Bravo]

The couple of New Years I spent in BKK were good and I'll be back after a good 20 years. As I furiously research my trip, I'm realizing that not much has changed (swapped CM2 at Novotel Siam Square for today's hotspot, massage and gogo scene unchanged, Thermae and Biergarten (sp?) still going strong, Grace Hotel still seems to attract "Russians" (I've mongered in Russia and know they're not), and overall a barrel of monkeys.

Got to give props for the wealth of information I've found RTFF'ing at ISG and I will share my experiences. Some kind soul had posted a link from a Japanese blogger which I found to be a rich vein of incredibly good information.

The days when girls would just say "what you wish" when you talked about money seem to be long gone and I do not think that I'll get "wifed up" like I used to for 4-week like I used to (She came to see me off and I ended up cancelling and rescheduling because of her genuine tears. Them were the days!

One of my fondest Thai sayings, "Same, same, but different". Unfortunately some things are not replaceable: the previous Thermae, 2 rooms as I recall, one with low ceiling, after 1:00, a Star Wars bar come to life. The current one rather pristine in comparison. Annies, the soapy, closed; hope Aey is doing well. I'll have to see about the Biergarten. Used to be a good place, but then became a bit sparse last time I was there, 2019. Back then, Soi Cowboy more fun than Nana. Yes, those LT preferred days long gone, quite a bit more mercenary as I've heard. You probably remember the BST, before sky train; now it's BTS and saying sky train denotes your age. And there's a Metro. Typical TIT (you do remember Trink), tickets on one DON'T work on the other at least in 2019. I'd get the Rabbit card for BTS, the Metro card for the Metro. Beats having to have the change or standing in line to get some coins. Charge them up, work them off. Nicely, if they go to a new card, they read the old card and transfer the balance, thank you very much when you come back. Taxi's are all metered now. Bring a lunch for Suvarnabhumi Airport. It's linear, and you can walk a good. 75 clicks there. Further from town. I preferred Don Mueang, more "compact" and close. But it's still Thailand ....

[Alex Alexa]

What's so magic about 60 (exception noted below)? SO, not incorrect: my point IS: it's what you DO in your days here that counts. If you can't get a hit in 45 days, another 15 days isn't going to change your batting average all that much.

Besides, I have a tourist visa from the consulate, the 45 days announced after I'd applied. Took two calendar weeks to approve (but there were a couple of holidays in there). Not like the in-and-out same day approval walk-in precovid. And I thought some of the requirements here a bit bothersome (and stupid), as in paid accommodation reservations for the FULL stay, along with incoming and outgoing plane tickets. But, not THAT big a problem. But I won't be using the full 60, not even close. That Aussie visa? That's all of 10 minutes, including approval.

And it certainly depends on your interests. I really DON'T see the attraction of flying long to sit in a bar, night after night, gawking at girls, trying to score. Or walking down Thaniya Road gawking at girls trying to strike up a conversation. I know, I know, she's really NOT that attractive, that one is run-of-the-mill; we call it sour grapes. 28 days agogos? Your eyeballs must get tired from overuse, but methinks that's the only 'balls being used. And no, I have no idea of pull percentages ...I only care about MY batting average.

I'm not you bro. Hahaha. I want 60 days. On my next trip I'll get another tourist visa and get extension, so I'll have to go to immigration to get total of 90 days.

I just like being in Bangkok. I'm not into Quantity. I've had providers where I've had way over 30 sessions, and not in 30 days.

For me it's way more Fun when the chemistry is there.

Thai and work ethics? I thought the meme was Thai in general are lazy. Haha. Corruption does that.

Bum Hospital does run efficient so there are always exceptions.

[HorseTrader]

60 day visa vs 45 plus extension to get you to 60 days.

One requires a Pain in the Butt trip to immigration to get the 60 days. Guess which one. No thank you.

The other one 30 minutes on a computer. This also doesn't require playing around with airline

IMHO, there is validity to what you say in this particular post. It is much easier to get the 60-day Thai E Visa than to get the 45-day passport entry plus extension. But, I'm raising the BS flag on that being only 30 minutes on the computer, I've done it twice and would estimate it will take me 1.5 hours when I do it a third time. There are quite a few files that need to be gathered and submitted in proper form, that takes time. Heck, it took me 30 minutes to get a selfie that the automatic photo review accepted. My guess is a first time E-Visa will need more than 1.5 hours to complete the application.

Regarding not playing around with airline, that is a false statement. You must submit your arrival airline paperwork and planned date of departure.

My first E-visa required 6 days to process. The second required 12 days. If I recall, the price was $40 US.

[11Bravo]

60 day visa vs 45 plus extension to get you to 60 days.

One requires a Pain in the Butt trip to immigration to get the 60 days. Guess which one. No thank you.

The other one 30 minutes on a computer. This also doesn't require playing around with airline tickets.

Please don't argue when you are incorrecto.

You do know that out of every 100 customers that walk into in a Bar 85% are NOT Barfining. Possibly less, this is an eye ball judgement.

What's so magic about 60 (exception noted below)? SO, not incorrect: my point IS: it's what you DO in your days here that counts. If you can't get a hit in 45 days, another 15 days isn't going to change your batting average all that much.

Besides, I have a tourist visa from the consulate, the 45 days announced after I'd applied. Took two calendar weeks to approve (but there were a couple of holidays in there). Not like the in-and-out same day approval walk-in precovid. And I thought some of the requirements here a bit bothersome (and stupid), as in paid accommodation reservations for the FULL stay, along with incoming and outgoing plane tickets. But, not THAT big a problem. But I won't be using the full 60, not even close. That Aussie visa? That's all of 10 minutes, including approval.

And it certainly depends on your interests. I really DON'T see the attraction of flying long to sit in a bar, night after night, gawking at girls, trying to score. Or walking down Thaniya Road gawking at girls trying to strike up a conversation. I know, I know, she's really NOT that attractive, that one is run-of-the-mill; we call it sour grapes. 28 days agogos? Your eyeballs must get tired from overuse, but methinks that's the only 'balls being used. And no, I have no idea of pull percentages ...I only care about MY batting average.

Myself, I want IN the game, not riding the pine. And after 9 innings, couple of weeks, then travel. Lot to see and do in this part of the world. Out to DMK, and had the pleasure of visiting Myanmar several times (glad I went, have some good friends there, CRIME what's happening now). Cambodia. Angkor Wat a MUST see, and in Phnom Penh there is some action along with the sights. Laos, Luang Prabang a world heritage site, and of course Vientiane. And of course KL, though it seems the Beach Club (an Asian smorgasbord) is no more. Point is, more to life, at least for some, than spending weeks in a bar. Just easier to fly, hike, and return. After almost 30 years coming to Thailand, yea, it's been that long, surprised the hell out of me when I thought about it, because it doesn't seem that long, I've been to a few bars, some MPs, a couple of clubs, a bit on the street. Different pitchers, but the game's the same.

Now China, I do take my 60 days, but then again, China's a BIG country with a lot of culture and heritage. Must be why they give you a 10 year multiple entry visa, well pre-covid anyway. Glad I went as often as I did.

[11Bravo]

Some of them live such harsh lives, and more than any other place in the world that I've hobbied, here in Bangkok, I've come to really respect them and to be able to see them as the truly amazing women some of them are. With what they have to go through in life, and still be able to service us with a smile, I give them a lot of credit. I've said this before, I'll say it again, people will say whatever they want about Asians, but their work ethic is just nothing short of amazing. Puts us in the west to shame. *.

One thing, just because a Thai is smiling at you doesn't mean he's happy with you. Has to do with not losing face. But I will say that given such a tough life, they still maintain their all important "Good Heart".

But, and there is a but, consider if they had (which during Covid, some did) to travel to a foreign country where prostitution is illegal, the police are NOT your friend, and there are NO fellow countrymen all around you to help you out. Thai girl gets in trouble here, she starts screaming, and any number of Thais are going go help their SISTER with a foreigner. But I refer to the UAE and DXB. When I was there, I was heavily into the PRC's, and how they could retain their good nature is beyond me. Get mugged, tough. Burglary of your flat, tough. Here, if a guy doesn't pay, he might have to pay in another way. There, tough. Better learn English or Arabic, better English. But I knew a lot who were still cheerful (though some, not so much). It is a tough life, but that filial duty.

[Rukawa78]

Hi guys, flying to BK tonight for 1 week.

I read in the forum few things:

- for oil massage happy bkk massage is great but I am afraid they use lady boy. Haru seems to get a lot of good reviews but I also read she just left. If anyone have her contact to share or where we can find her now it will be much appreciated.

-For Nuru, read that Doki Doki and Kokoro are the must go. Any girls specifically you recommend? Or any other better places?

-for freelancers, thermae seems to be a reference but is the freelancers are ready to walk 10 minutes to hotels or too far? Please is there lot of chance to find 8+ looking girls there?

Thanks for your advance!

[Newton York]

Mr. As other have posted previously, your reports were just off the scale amazing. The detail, info, the humour, etc. Loved it all.

I had the good fortune of reading most of them when I was actually in BKK. I therefore sometimes followed your track so that some of the places you went to one day I visited the next!

I suspect we are similar in age. You say you are old but if you are nutting 2 or 3 times a day you ain't that old. I think once we get past 50 we think we are old but in this modern day that's not too old.

I've cherry picked some of your comments from the reports above for specific reasons.

I agree with an awful lot of what you say but not all.

Most of all I loved your comment about how on the ground the difference between 200 and 500 baht becomes significant whereas in your own country you wouldn't bat an eyelid about it. I cannot agree more. On my recent visits to Pattaya and BKK I resolved NOT to do this this time. I have fallen victim to it before when I have stupidly turned down great options because 1500 baht sounded expensive. Notwithstanding that in my own territory (Europe) that would be about 70 euros! 70 euros is entry only into most FKKs! That's not getting your dick wet or dry. Its getting it through the door! This trip I did not succumb to this false economy nonsense. Oh I know locals will say "you two week millionaires kill it for us locals" but I don't buy that. The girls know very well the difference between the guys who live locally / are regulars, and the two week tourist. They know they cannot hope to snare a regular with prices they managed to persuade us tourists to part with. I had one amazing day in a gentleman's club in Pattaya, knowing I was leaving the next day (and with some sadness but not on your scale) so decided to fill my boots and took one girl after another, with some breaks for food, drinks, pool, talking but mainly a long string of ladies including a couple of threesomes before ending the night in the room partying with 4 girls! If you are nutting 3 times per day hats off to you. That's simply impossible for me. On a good day I might get the second one out! But like you, you learn to adapt, and enjoy the ride. So a great tip for other tourists. Don't start moaning about a girl quoting you 1200 baht when you've read on ISG that the price is 1000 baht. If you like her just do it! The 200 isn't worth the hassle!

I know what you mean about Thermae but I just couldn't resist going in frequently and selected several girls. Their negotiation skills are poor. This is due to being in the herd of girls and wanting a catch, and if you go in wearing expensive clothes and smelling good, they almost smirk at the other girls when you chose them. Long time since I was considered "the prize"! I had a lot of fun with a tiny little girl with short black hair called Noy from Thermae.

The oillies are also my favourites. I love the soapies in Pattaya and lament the closing of Annies which I also loved, but there are great options at the oilies and very reasonably priced. For me, Huai Kwang was good. I loved the whole look and feel of those big brash places and again, I didn't care that they were more costly than the oilies because in comparison with sterling and euros, and the cost of good sex in Europe / UK / Dubai / Singapore, this was still incredibly cheap. My personal favourite being La Belle. Some excellent choices. Only place I felt I was being ripped of in was The Pimp club. Only went once. Flash, impressive, great line up, but you are required to take 2 girls minimum to a room (first hour 2000 and each hour 1000 after), and buy a bottle (starts at 4000 even for wine! I knew before I went there that it was unlikely to cost me less than 15000 for the night. Ok its a lot especially in Thailand, but its less than I've spent for a night in Manchester, Berlin, Frankfurt, Madrid, Malaga, London etc for a great time. I did have a great time but felt it was pressured and sharky and the journey there from central BKK (I stupidly went on a bike) was crazy. But still a great experience.

Your approach to this trip, the exercise, walking, stealth, economics, appreciation of the touristy elements and sympathy for the stories (even if a little heavy sometimes) resonated so much with me. The members of the BKK forum should be forever in your debt. Fabulous reports Sir.

Thank you PayForIt, glad to know my reports are helping a bit. I know I'm not great with brevity, but I really wanted to add more color and texture to the whole thing, more anecdotal, more of my thought process, but also more about the girls themselves. Some of them live such harsh lives, and more than any other place in the world that I've hobbied, here in Bangkok, I've come to really respect them and to be able to see them as the truly amazing women some of them are. With what they have to go through in life, and still be able to service us with a smile, I give them a lot of credit. I've said this before, I'll say it again, people will say whatever they want about Asians, but their work ethic is just nothing short of amazing. Puts us in the west to shame. *.

And yes! I totally concur about just another 1000 baht not*making a big difference. For me, I would sometimes take the jacuzzi upgrade cause why not right? It's like an extra 10 bucks or less. That's right man, we seem to always fall into the trap of nickel and diming ourselves everytime*we travel, but this time around I let myself go. I tried to remind myself that if I was going to act like a bean counter on my sex trip, I shouldn't make the trip at all. *.

That's right man, 70 bucks won't even get me into FKK Mainhattan these days, but with that same 70 bucks, I can get a pretty decent time with a girl from an oily. It is pretty funny how sometimes a few hundred baht sounds like a lot, but it won't even get me a lapdance here in the sexual wasteland that's the US northeast. Man, don't even get me started on how*cheap yet awesome the food is in Bangkok. I wanted to eat myself to death it was so awesome. Hell, I can't even get a decent sandwich for 500 baht here in NY, but for that price I can get almost a feast in Bangkok. *.

I'm glad you brought up The Pimp. In my research prior to my trip, I was awfully curious about the place but finding any reviews on it was tough. Their website is very detailed and the girls look amazing but thanks to your report, I'm glad I skipped it. *.

[Newton York]

That's only "military time" in the US. In all of Europe and most of Asia it's the normal way we write down the time.

Also: Seriously good report. I just spent 45 minutes reading everything you wrote, taking many notes for my upcoming 3 weeks in BKK.

Thanks Farcondee, glad my reports helped. I hope Bangkok changes your life like it did mine. With what I experienced, I find it harder and harder to justify to myself a Europe mongering trip anymore. For all the reasons I've stated in my reports, Bangkok seems to have it all.

[Alex Alexa]

I think you need to be more specific. Just one PARAGRAPH from Newton York contained more usable intel than all of Alexa's posts combined. The only good thing about his posts are their brevity; like a broken pencil, short and no point. Even a newbie like Toppers first FR had more usable intel, so it can be done.

That Karma is a bi*tch. Methinks it wasn't the stye that caused your problems, it was what was attached to it. And those bg's ...their radar is top-notch, easily able to distinguish a true target from clutter.

Those Lookie-lous sure clutter up a lot of places, bars and forums. While a description of the deed is entertaining, not really a requirement for an FR (I know what happens, well, at least in MY room). But good intel is, such things for a bar: cost of a Singha (you do buy a drink?), cost of a lady drink (there must be some reason they talk to you), bar fine (of course, to know that, you actually have to pay one), asking price / accepted price (again, have to get one to say yes), ST / LT, definition of ST; only ST accepted (well, with you, that answer is probably skewed), definition of LT (morning, or until you fall asleep), services offered (CBJ, BBBJ, CIM, FS).

You see, there's street CRED and street CRUD. Here, you establish your cred, and that's done, as many others have done, by putting in the TIME, the money, the EFFORT, THEN go the extra mile and write an informative FR, to pass along that knowledge to others. Then there's crud which is somebody talking just to hear their own voice. But hey, it's a FREE forum, you don't even have to be a member to read. To post, all it takes is an e-mail address. Thankfully, there are those that contribute value rather than just piggyback on the free access to hear their own voice.

60 days? Why bother when a visa on arrival has been upped from 30 to 45 days? I mean, if you can't get it done in 45 days, an extra 15 won't help.

Locked and loaded? More like half-cocked.

60 day visa vs 45 plus extension to get you to 60 days.

One requires a Pain in the Butt trip to immigration to get the 60 days. Guess which one. No thank you.

The other one 30 minutes on a computer. This also doesn't require playing around with airline tickets.

Please don't argue when you are incorrecto.

You do know that out of every 100 customers that walk into in a Bar 85% are NOT Barfining. Possibly less, this is an eye ball judgement.

[11Bravo]

What I noticed after reviewing your posts and Mr Newton's posts, was that in only one post Mr Newton provided more insite and information to the forum than you have in your 20+ posts. PLUS Mr Newton has taken the time to buy a subscription.

I know who deserves a High Distinction more.

I think you need to be more specific. Just one PARAGRAPH from Newton York contained more usable intel than all of Alexa's posts combined. The only good thing about his posts are their brevity; like a broken pencil, short and no point. Even a newbie like Toppers first FR had more usable intel, so it can be done.

Day 1 -19. Have Eye Stye. Go Agogos.
Day 20. Get rejected for a Barfine at an Agogo.

That Karma is a bi*tch. Methinks it wasn't the stye that caused your problems, it was what was attached to it. And those bg's ...their radar is top-notch, easily able to distinguish a true target from clutter.

Day 21-28. Go Agogos.

Those Lookie-lous sure clutter up a lot of places, bars and forums. While a description of the deed is entertaining, not really a requirement for an FR (I know what happens, well, at least in MY room). But good intel is, such things for a bar: cost of a Singha (you do buy a drink?), cost of a lady drink (there must be some reason they talk to you), bar fine (of course, to know that, you actually have to pay one), asking price / accepted price (again, have to get one to say yes), ST / LT, definition of ST; only ST accepted (well, with you, that answer is probably skewed), definition of LT (morning, or until you fall asleep), services offered (CBJ, BBBJ, CIM, FS).

You see, there's street CRED and street CRUD. Here, you establish your cred, and that's done, as many others have done, by putting in the TIME, the money, the EFFORT, THEN go the extra mile and write an informative FR, to pass along that knowledge to others. Then there's crud which is somebody talking just to hear their own voice. But hey, it's a FREE forum, you don't even have to be a member to read. To post, all it takes is an e-mail address. Thankfully, there are those that contribute value rather than just piggyback on the free access to hear their own voice.

I like Heated exchanges.

To me his report was Pure cringe.

And yours PURE crud. Based on your FR's, I don't think you've ever had a heated exchange of any substance (pun intended) here.

Got my tourist Visa

60 days? Why bother when a visa on arrival has been upped from 30 to 45 days? I mean, if you can't get it done in 45 days, an extra 15 won't help.

Locked and Loaded.

Locked and loaded? More like half-cocked.

[Shockman]

The couple of New Years I spent in BKK were good and I'll be back after a good 20 years. As I furiously research my trip, I'm realizing that not much has changed (swapped CM2 at Novotel Siam Square for today's hotspot, massage and gogo scene unchanged, Thermae and Biergarten (sp?) still going strong, Grace Hotel still seems to attract "Russians" (I've mongered in Russia and know they're not), and overall a barrel of monkeys.

Got to give props for the wealth of information I've found RTFF'ing at ISG and I will share my experiences. Some kind soul had posted a link from a Japanese blogger which I found to be a rich vein of incredibly good information.

The days when girls would just say "what you wish" when you talked about money seem to be long gone and I do not think that I'll get "wifed up" like I used to for 4-week like I used to (She came to see me off and I ended up cancelling and rescheduling because of her genuine tears. Them were the days!

I always find it challenging to find a good location to visit for NYE. I am from the USA And it seems like most of the ladies in the nearby spots go home for the holidays.

Thinking about Thailand as an alternative this year, maybe the day after Christmas until January 5 or so.

Does anyone have thoughts either way on this? Thanks in advance.