Stupid shit in Medellin

[JjBee62]

To where it belongs.

You're not wrong. I'd actually go one step farther and say that I've outgrown this hobby altogether. I started banging hookers partly because I was put off by the entitlement of regular women. What do you do when you're put off by the entitlement of hookers? Something's got to give.

The only entitled one here is you. As I've already repeated too many times, strippers asking for tips in strip clubs is normal behavior. If you don't tip them they don't have you thrown out and they don't get pissed off and start spouting irrational bullshit. They move on to the next customer. Where in that is the entitlement?

The entitlement is located somewhere between your belt line and your anus, which is where you seem to keep your brain. The entitlement is getting pissed off when a naked woman takes 1 second of your time asking for a miniscule amount of money. The entitlement is stomping out of the club pissed off when another girl does the perfectly normal thing the first girl did. The entitlement is ranting about the club paying girls so you don't have 2 seconds of your precious time wasted every 5 minutes by a naked woman hoping for a measly 2 k. The entitlement is calling a woman a perra because she's not at your door when you expected her.

Let's dig into that last one.

It was almost midnight when you set a 1 am appointment with the girl and you wanted her at your door at 1 am. Did you ever try to find a taxi at midnight in an estrato 1 or 2 neighborhood? Not a lot of taxis are sitting up there waiting around for non-existent customers. She probably knows a few taxi drivers and probably messaged them. To further speculate, when she messaged back for the address, she had most likely finally found one and was ready able to head to you.

If you had ever bothered to read the forum or pay attention to advice you would have checked back with the girl to make sure she was on her way. It's unreasonable to expect you to consider how difficult it might be for her to get a taxi at that time of night. Very few guys here think about that. However, reading the forum would have uncovered the advice to hedge your bets. If you want her there at 1 am, tell her 12:30. Greatly reduces your waiting around time.

Frankly, expecting a girl who is at least 25 minutes away to get ready, arrange transportation, arrange for someone to watch her kids and to be at your door in less than 2 hours is entitlement, especially so late at night. If the girl isn't somewhere working then she's in her pajamas with no makeup, watching TV from her bed at 11 pm. If she lives with her mother (likely) and has kids (also likely), she's got to wake her mother and tell her she's leaving, probably shower, put on makeup, brush out her hair and get dressed before trying to find transportation. If she can't find transportation (again, likely), she's stuck waiting.

How great the world would be if young, Colombian hookers would just send us a message explaining the problem, but they don't. So we're left waiting, and getting pissed. Of course with most of the guys here, if the girls did explain the situation they'd still get pissed.

There are almost certainly entitled hookers in Colombia, if you fiddle around with the definition of entitlement. Mostly, the ones you think are entitled are just like all of us. They've decided to only accept offers which meet their standards.

Back to your entitlement. You bitched about the ventilation in your Airbnb and demanded a different place. You didn't bother to consider that what you were so upset about is a standard feature throughout Medellin. You complain about the noise without considering that you're in a city of more than 4 million, with one of the highest population densities in the western hemisphere. There's going to be noise.

With most people I'd bend over backwards trying to salvage their trip, but any effort would be wasted on you. So go ahead with your ranting and crying and then get your entitled ass back where someone can change your diaper and pick up your pacifier when you drop it.

[Huacho]

I could be wrong, but I always thought countries that don't expect a tip to the server factor that into the cost of the meal and pay the server more per hour. As an American, I can say with certainty that if you don't tip, you are an asshole, plain and simple. Obviously if someone's not American they have their own customs so they get a pass.

As to your first sentence, you are not wrong. So, in countries that make their employees rely on tips, you need to tip. That doesn't make it good or right or sane. It just means some greedy business is convincing its customers to pay its employees. Countries like Australia realize how demeaning that is. As far as to your second sentence, you are mostly right. But let's look at Washington state. Servers there get the minimum wage, which is among the highest in the country. And serving is pretty much an entry level job in the Yew Ess, not a profession such as in Italy, Spain, France, etc. And it is no coincidence that tipping is not prevalent there. So in WA all I might do is round say $23.80 to $25 and I don't this 'Hi, my name is Mindy and I will be taking care of you tonight' bullshit.

Yet, despite the fact that WA does not have a 'sub minimum wage' of 40% or 60% of minimum as they do in say CO, and despite the fact that Seattle city has an even higher minimum wage, the servers there still expect tips and shame non-tippers. Why? Because tipping is out of control in the Yew Ess. It is a cultural phenomenon that is metastasizing into arenas where it was not previously expected. Why did the advice to tip in restaurants go from 15% in my youth to 20% now? And please don't say inflation.

Let me give a recent example. Last week I was in Chile with a friend and we took a day tour. 15 people on the tour, 13 chilenos, my woman friend from the Yew Ess, and me. So as the trip grew near its conclusion, she asked me about tipping. I said that we would be getting dropped off almost last and that she, closer to the exit door, should watch to see what the locals did. What they did was thank the driver for a nice trip and shake his hand. 11 chilenos, 11 hand shakes, zero tips. So we got off the bus when only two chilenos remained. I gave the driver / guide a fist bump and complimented him on his driving. My friend shook his hand awkwardly because she was slipping him a tip. It embarrassed him.

Look, if you want to run a business and have employees, then why don't you pay them? It is insulting to me that you think I, as a customer, should be paying your employees, and it should be disgraceful to you. And yeah duh I understand restaurants and etc. Would have to raise their prices by a fair amount. So do that, and we would have an Australian type of model, and it would be way way better.

[RamDavidson84]

I guess every single Australian, New Zealander, and Japanese must be impolite then. Tipping is out of control. And especially don't take tipping advice from somebody who lives in Las Vegas, for god's sakes.

I could be wrong, but I always thought countries that don't expect a tip to the server factor that into the cost of the meal and pay the server more per hour. As an American, I can say with certainty that if you don't tip, you are an asshole, plain and simple. Obviously if someone's not American they have their own customs so they get a pass.

A very good friend of mine's mother put her self through nursing school while living in section 8 housing with her 3 kids and collecting welfare and working a side job as a waitress for extra cash. She made it very clear to us as kids, Hell is reserved for dudes who don't tip correctly. Chivalry is not totally dead if a scumbag like me still enjoys tipping a little bit LOL.

[JjBee62]

I guess every single Australian, New Zealander, and Japanese must be impolite then. Tipping is out of control. And especially don't take tipping advice from somebody who lives in Las Vegas, for god's sakes.

If they all go to places where the employees or contractors are paid by tips and they don't tip, yes, they're impolite.

Interesting thing about people who live in Las Vegas. They don't usually spend money at the same level as tourists visiting Las Vegas. The ones who don't learn control end up homeless. They understand that there's nothing wrong with tipping, without needing to throw money around.

[JjBee62]

Went there and 10-12 girls. They give you a note pad to write down the names of girls you would like to screw. Then you pick one of the independent contractors and they all try to charge you extra fees for services you though were included: kissing, DATY, BBBJ, etc. Would be better if they all were all inclusive and not independent hustlers.

Would it be? From what I've seen and what I know, when everyone is providing the same service, for the same price, the service settles in the mediocre level. There's no point in providing better service if you get paid the same for crappy service.

Unless you're talking slavery, the girls all choose to work there and they choose what level of service they will provide. Some see it as a chance to make more money. Some see it as a way to discourage things they don't want to do.

[NeilGeorge]

Strip clubs, in most places, don't hire girls. They are considered independent contractors. All the management does is approve them to work there. If they only allowed pretty girls to work there they would quickly be out of business. Of course that's without considering that the management might have a different opinion of pretty than you do.

What every club needs is a mix. You need all types. You need plain girls who are great dancers. You need the older women who are great listeners. You need women with personality, along with a few beauties. Otherwise you end up with a club with very few dancers because of jealousy and attitudes and very few customers.

Most guys go to a strip club to have fun, although it seems ISG has a bunch of guys who go to strip clubs to complain. That means girls who can entertain, rather than just girls who stare at their phones and look pretty.

Went there and 10-12 girls. They give you a note pad to write down the names of girls you would like to screw. Then you pick one of the independent contractors and they all try to charge you extra fees for services you though were included: kissing, DATY, BBBJ, etc. Would be better if they all were all inclusive and not independent hustlers.

[Villainy]

Tip the girls a 2 mil note when they come up to you. Yes, you end of spending a whole 5 dollars throughout the course of an entire night, but it's the right thing to do. People burn in hell for not tipping, they end up in the same level of hell as the working girls who don't finish guys haha. Tip your strippers boys.

P.S. I am not saying ball out and throw wads of cash around, I am just saying throw the girl a 2 mil note and make her feel good when they come dance on you.

How crass can someone be? A girl is taking her clothes off for your viewing pleasure. I'm sure that was her dream as a little girl: to grow up and take her clothes off in front of a bunch of.

Fat, loud foreigners and some local men too. The truth is she isn't there because it is her dream, she is there to earn enough to feed her hungry children or mother or whatever. All you have to do is suck it up and give her a 2 mil note with is now worth about $0. 40.

If that clown really thinks that is giving money away for free. He shouldn't be in a strip club. I have to wonder if he goes around and trys to eat out of the garbage cans? Afterall, giving the restaurant or food vender money for food that he can find discarded in the closest garbage cans is the same as giving money away for nothing. Or perhaps, he should go back home and pull bottles out of the garbage there for the recycling deposit. A couple of good days retrieving empty beer bottles and he might be able to afford tipping a few of the girls.

[RamDavidson84]

Dude don't be an idiot, there is a difference between paying for something of value such as food in a restaurant and throwing money away for free such as tipping girls in a strip club. All I'm pointing out is that the money can be better spent elsewhere.

If you and the others who attacked me here enjoy. Throwing your money around in order to look like big ballers or weekend warriors to impress your friends or to impress strippers in a club then that's your choice. The same girls can be had in Centro or in Santa Fe or in Ccuta for a fraction of the price. And no I'm not complaining I'm simply pointing out that you guys are waiting money, but I get it you guys don't live here, you come down for a. Week and blow a bunch of money and you go home broke to the US feeling some sense of fulfillment. If that's what floats your boat then carry on.

Tip the girls a 2 mil note when they come up to you. Yes, you end of spending a whole 5 dollars throughout the course of an entire night, but it's the right thing to do. People burn in hell for not tipping, they end up in the same level of hell as the working girls who don't finish guys haha. Tip your strippers boys.

P.S. I am not saying ball out and throw wads of cash around, I am just saying throw the girl a 2 mil note and make her feel good when they come dance on you.

[Huacho]

impolite to hang out and not tip anyone.

I guess every single Australian, New Zealander, and Japanese must be impolite then. Tipping is out of control. And especially don't take tipping advice from somebody who lives in Las Vegas, for god's sakes.

[DonCarlos1234]

All strip clubs are stupid and a waste of money. Those 2 k bills could be put to much better use than giving them away for free for nothing. If you want sex 30 k in Centro, if want beer 3 k for a tall can Andina beer at your local tienda in the barrio. You want to waste money on bullshit, by all means go to the strip clubs like a dumb gringo.

Locals: I am a local in Las Vegas. I used to waste $ in strip clubs like most of the tourists do. Since I live here I see no reason to visit them like I used to. LOL.

Tourists: I deal with tourists quite often. I see them do amazingly "stupid" things spending thousands of dollars. LOL but Las Vegas survives on tourism. (So does La Isla) FYI In 2022 the "Medellin tourism bureau estimated the expenditure of tourists at 26 million dollars. - with 39% of all travelers coming from America". I used to be a tourist.

Regulars: Some people visit more often and they learn (or choose) which establishments are the best value for them. Often they enlist the locals to show them around and give them advice. (I do a lot of that, I am in the tourism business) Business everywhere would rather have regular customers. They are going to visit more often and spend more in the long run. That's what I do.

You may be a local with the fortune to have friends working at La Isla. Terrific. But La Isla would rather have people spend $. Tourists & Regulars. So would most businesses in Medellin. I am sorry if you were insulted by what people spend for their entertainment and the assumption I made that no money means "no honey" most of the time on the planet. It seems like entitlement and also impolite to hang out and not tip anyone.

So La Isla charges a cover and now things are changing. It will not affect the tourists or the regulars. Hopefully it brings in top talent for the clubs patrons. (& ME .

[JjBee62]

I hate restaurants that the waitresses pool their tips to together and divide amongst them. Why should the stellar waitress continually give her higher income to the waitress that makes the least amount because the low tip earner has a bad attitude, screws up orders, poor hygiene, etc? This actually punishes the great waitresses who work harder.

I hate going to these type of stripper joints because the girls keep interrupting me when I am chatting to my friend or another girl. If the owner knows you guys will tip ANY girl he will thus hire ANY girl to fill the position rather than the hot girl he should hire. Next the owner will hire some guy to dance. Why? Why not? You idiots give tips to everyone.

The point is not the money it is whether it was earned or not. Strippers should be pretty, not pretty ugly. If they were pretty then all the guys would be paying close attention to stage, thus tipping more, staying longer, and drinking more.

Ah yes! The magical, mythical strip club where all the strippers are gorgeous and have great attitudes. Instead of bouncers they have leprechauns riding unicorns and giving gold to random customers.

Strip clubs, in most places, don't hire girls. They are considered independent contractors. All the management does is approve them to work there. If they only allowed pretty girls to work there they would quickly be out of business. Of course that's without considering that the management might have a different opinion of pretty than you do.

What every club needs is a mix. You need all types. You need plain girls who are great dancers. You need the older women who are great listeners. You need women with personality, along with a few beauties. Otherwise you end up with a club with very few dancers because of jealousy and attitudes and very few customers.

Most guys go to a strip club to have fun, although it seems ISG has a bunch of guys who go to strip clubs to complain. That means girls who can entertain, rather than just girls who stare at their phones and look pretty.

[LoveItHere69]

I hate restaurants that the waitresses pool their tips to together and divide amongst them. Why should the stellar waitress continually give her higher income to the waitress that makes the least amount because the low tip earner has a bad attitude, screws up orders, poor hygiene, etc? This actually punishes the great waitresses who work harder.

I hate going to these type of stripper joints because the girls keep interrupting me when I am chatting to my friend or another girl. If the owner knows you guys will tip ANY girl he will thus hire ANY girl to fill the position rather than the hot girl he should hire. Next the owner will hire some guy to dance. Why? Why not? You idiots give tips to everyone.

The point is not the money it is whether it was earned or not. Strippers should be pretty, not pretty ugly. If they were pretty then all the guys would be paying close attention to stage, thus tipping more, staying longer, and drinking more.

[Gabacho]

Maybe Gabacho thinks we should not use restaurants either?

Dude don't be an idiot, there is a difference between paying for something of value such as food in a restaurant and throwing money away for free such as tipping girls in a strip club. All I'm pointing out is that the money can be better spent elsewhere.

If you and the others who attacked me here enjoy. Throwing your money around in order to look like big ballers or weekend warriors to impress your friends or to impress strippers in a club then that's your choice. The same girls can be had in Centro or in Santa Fe or in Cúcuta for a fraction of the price. And no I'm not complaining I'm simply pointing out that you guys are waiting money, but I get it you guys don't live here, you come down for a. Week and blow a bunch of money and you go home broke to the US feeling some sense of fulfillment. If that's what floats your boat then carry on.

[JustTK]

Maybe they're stupid and a waste for you, but you're not everybody. Maybe some guys don't mind tipping 25 cents or 50 cents to sip on a beer and watch dances..

Nothing stupid and wasteful about it, if that's what one wants to do and enjoys it.

One doesn't have to tip either. Girls will still dance even if you don't tip. Many of the Colombians don't tip, and its not a foreigner tax. .

I see it though, rather like tipping a waiter / waitress in a restaurant. Maybe Gabacho thinks we should not use restaurants either?

[MarquisdeSade1]

Seriously you can not think of someone to ban for life? I sure can. MarquisdeSade1. Please feel free to argue his value here.

Just when I thought I had escaped this online psych ward, I read this jajajaa.

Huge Congrats yes, you are one of the head whackjobs around here that add nothing but drama and toxicity.

Case in point arent you that psycho the Tall Man wrote, was stalking him around in el centro hiding in bushes etc?

Lets us guess you are a clone of that Danny Devito character in One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest (he described you as a short and weird little creature).

And arent you also the one that was sooper "wounded" when I couldn't stop LMAO.

Because you wrote pinay putas "walk on water" wasnt that you? ROTFLMMFAO.

Arent you also the one that writes how much he hates everything about Colombia and MDE?

Why the fuck are you still in this thread? Do they provide free wifi in state psych wards in the USA?