Sao Paulo Reports

[Axel Heyst]

Covered BJ is an oddity in Brazil, and I'm telling you this as someone who just finished four months in Brazil and my fifth visit. I have only once experienced a CBJ in Brazil and that was with a GP in Recife, who despite good reviews in GP Guia gave me a true "Colombian" experience. Back massage, then the flip over, Covered BJ and then cowgirl with her mouth a meter away from mine. That's normal in Colombia but an anomaly among GPS in Brazil. Perhaps its more common in low-end brothels, but not up to independent GP standards. That said, stories about CBJ in Brazil from true independent GPS are very dubious and probably fictitious.

This is my experience in SP & RJ too. I can only recall 2 or 3 girls even attempting to give me a CBJ after 4 trips and a cumulative 24 weeks in the country. And on those rare 2 or 3 rare times when I girl tried to put a condom on my dick for a BJ, I politely sadi "no," and the girls changed their minds and gave me good BBBJ's without any further discussion on the issue. So, I believe BBBJ's are the default position in Brazil, and I do not believe there is any need to discuss it with a boate, terma, or clinca girl before taking her upstairs.

Bareback sex is another story, however. 95% of my Brazilian girls insist on the condom even after repeat sessions which sets Brazil far apart from countries like Indonesia and the PI where bareback sex is almost the default. If Brazilian girls were not so sexy and good at what they do, I would be back in Pattaya, Jakarta, and MNL before anyone could say, "safe sex". KKK.

[Anaggie]

Why exchange money at all? I no longer do that. Get a debit card from a solid financial institution that refunds all ATM fees. I recommend Schwab, as have many others. One great feature with Schwab is that after you've pulled money from an ATM, you can then go online and lock your account so that it can't be used again until you are ready to get more cash and unlock the account yourself. Great security tool! Get an ATM card where the bank refunds ATM fees, use and ATM in a secure location, then lock / unlock your account as required. And voila you're good!

Old habits die hard. I guess.

Plus, I second what OJeito said. No banking trail.

Cash solves a lot of problems faster than having to get cash out of an ATM just in case anything happens.

[John Corey]

Thanks a lot for this. I usually use my go to place in Rio before coming to SP but I am a bunch of nerves walking back to the hotel after changing a bunch of cash in Copa. Will try this one next time I am in SP.

Thank you.

[Eszpresszo]

I think you are more likely to get it if you ask in advance. The last report before yours is also CBJ. You can't rely on chemistry (IOP). I have gone thru this cycle many times. Every time when I became comfortable not asking, I got CBJ but I have always asked in Scandallo and the answer is always yes.

Covered BJ is an oddity in Brazil, and I'm telling you this as someone who just finished four months in Brazil and my fifth visit. I have only once experienced a CBJ in Brazil and that was with a GP in Recife, who despite good reviews in GP Guia gave me a true "Colombian" experience. Back massage, then the flip over, Covered BJ and then cowgirl with her mouth a meter away from mine. That's normal in Colombia but an anomaly among GPS in Brazil. Perhaps its more common in low-end brothels, but not up to independent GP standards. That said, stories about CBJ in Brazil from true independent GPS are very dubious and probably fictitious.

[Eszpresszo]

Always! This hotel is a famous monger spot. I ran into fellow mongers in the lobby a few times.

All business class hotels in Brazil are girl-friendly. It's part of the culture. Many upright and seemingly upright and upscale, family-friendly residence hotels in SP have functioned as "work spaces" for GPS particularly during the pandemic, though I don't think so much now, with occupancy and prices much higher this year. Almost all of the women I visited in SP during 2021 had that type of setup. And for the record I am making this on my own personal experience in the past two years.

[Axel Heyst]

Why exchange money at all? I no longer do that. Get a debit card from a solid financial institution that refunds all ATM fees. I recommend Schwab, as have many others. One great feature with Schwab is that after you've pulled money from an ATM, you can then go online and lock your account so that it can't be used again until you are ready to get more cash and unlock the account yourself. Great security tool! Get an ATM card where the bank refunds ATM fees, use and ATM in a secure location, then lock / unlock your account as required. And voila you're good!

Cane, you and I think a like (sometimes). KKK. I have been using the Schwab Debit Card for years and it is changed the way I travel. Now I only carry $500 to $1000 in cash as an emergency back-up. I need that much because my trips are always between 6 and 11 weeks.

But as you suggest, in the back of my mind I knew there is always the possibility that something might happen to my Schwab card and then I would be up shit creek and forced to draw money from one of my credit cards at a huge price. But just before I left on my recent Oct / Nov SP trip, I found a solution: another zero ATM fee bank debit card. It is called the Needham Bank Debit Card. It works just like the Schwab Debit Card only my ATM fee was refunded into my Needham checking account the very next day! You can't ask for more than that. I recommend it.

[OJeito]

Why exchange money at all? I no longer do that. Get a debit card from a solid financial institution that refunds all ATM fees. I recommend Schwab, as have many others. One great feature with Schwab is that after you've pulled money from an ATM, you can then go online and lock your account so that it can't be used again until you are ready to get more cash and unlock the account yourself. Great security tool! Get an ATM card where the bank refunds ATM fees, use and ATM in a secure location, then lock / unlock your account as required. And voila you're good!

With all due respect brother cane. Nobody would care about places to exchange cash if they weren't showing up to Brazil with just that, cash! Some of us clearly prefer to use ATM's thus keeping small amounts of cash on hand. That's Fair enough. It shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone that there are some mongers out there who like to bring cash to pay for their shady mongering activities instead. Some mongers are married and prefer to hide their everyday purchases from the prying eyes of their spouses. Believe it or not, there are many bm'ers who appreciate great intel on where to change hard cash as exchange houses in Brasil vary widely on the exchange rates they offer.

[Nounce]

...Instead I didn't say anything, took a bit of an L on the BJ and price, but still had an okay time. Would I have agreed to it knowing I was getting a CBJ? No,.

I think you are more likely to get it if you ask in advance. The last report before yours is also CBJ. You can't rely on chemistry (IOP). I have gone thru this cycle many times. Every time when I became comfortable not asking, I got CBJ but I have always asked in Scandallo and the answer is always yes.

[The Cane]

Thanks a lot for this. I usually use my go to place in Rio before coming to SP but I am a bunch of nerves walking back to the hotel after changing a bunch of cash in Copa. Will try this one next time I am in SP.

Why exchange money at all? I no longer do that. Get a debit card from a solid financial institution that refunds all ATM fees. I recommend Schwab, as have many others. One great feature with Schwab is that after you've pulled money from an ATM, you can then go online and lock your account so that it can't be used again until you are ready to get more cash and unlock the account yourself. Great security tool! Get an ATM card where the bank refunds ATM fees, use and ATM in a secure location, then lock / unlock your account as required. And voila you're good!

[Anaggie]

Seattle Tourism FX, are. Oscar Freire, 146 B. This is best FX exchange shop in town and a short downhill walk from the Renaissance.

Thanks a lot for this. I usually use my go to place in Rio before coming to SP but I am a bunch of nerves walking back to the hotel after changing a bunch of cash in Copa. Will try this one next time I am in SP.

[OJeito]

Seattle Tourism FX, are. Oscar Freire, 146 B. This is best FX exchange shop in town and a short downhill walk from the Renaissance.

Great news amigo! I've grown extensively tired of all the horrible exchange rates that the vast majority of money exchangers offer in SP. Your contribution is valuable intel and I salute your efforts as a sexual soldier of fortune in the concrete jungles of sampa.

[The Critic]

Man, you must have a lot of money to throw away like that. Are you US-American? You guys have no idea how to deal with women, not even prostitutes.

Why would you post this negative comment?
Your negativity indicates that either you have never been to Scandallo or you have been there, but do not like paying Scandallo prices. In the latter case, that is fine. It is your money, spend it any way you like on anyone who will accept it. But in the former case, I think you might want to hold back on the criticism. There are some girls in Scandallo that you will not find in other boates, clinicas, or RJ termas and that's a fact.

I concur AH with your assessment of the negative commenter (Incrociatore). Just no need for this especially the anti-American comment.

[JZeleznik]

Some clinicas give discounts to those who post reviews on gp-guia.net (usually an hour for the price of half an hour). Tangara doesn't.

Ah, yeah that explains it perfectly. Thanks for the heads up!

Also I agree 100% with what Axel said, and I'll take this opportunity to share a recent misstep I had in Scandallo (11/16).

It's midweek and I see one of the top tier model level girls who's exactly my type. We start chatting, and my Portuguese is terrible, her English is similar, but we have a lot of chemistry. We talk for a long time, she doesn't ask for anything, doesn't ask about going upstairs, nothing. We've been fooling around a bit and I finally ask her how much to go upstairs, and she comes back with R1,800. I turn that down, offer R1,200 for 1. 5 hours. She asked for R1,500, I say no, she accepts the R1,200.

Now R800/ hour is the most I'd ever pay in Scandallo, but for 1. 5 hours it was still consistent with that rate, and as I only go once a week I didn't want to potentially waste the cover charge and not enjoy myself. Plus as I mentioned she was a knockout and we had great chemistry, so I didn't want to miss the opportunity as the odds of never running into her again are pretty high. So anyway, we go to the room, the chemistry is still in full effect as we're fooling around, BUT it turns out she is a germophobe and is the first / only girl in Brazil (out of, I don't even know, 40+) to do a CBJ. It's a question I'd ask anywhere else, but I don't even think to ask in Brazil anymore because I had never encountered it. So now could I have pushed the issue? Sure, but then what do I get? I'm 99% sure the answer is mediocre BBJ, all that chemistry would evaporate, and I'd be left with 1. 5 hours of mechanical sex. Or I can walk and I'm in a shit mood for the rest of the evening.

Instead I didn't say anything, took a bit of an L on the BJ and price, but still had an okay time. Would I have agreed to it knowing I was getting a CBJ? No, but I'd still have shelled out R700 for an hour between the looks / chemistry. Not every experience goes flawlessly, but some of my most fun and memorable experiences have been with girls who weren't exactly what I wanted (for clarity not suggesting anyone try scraping the bottom of the barrel here, I'm talking a brunette when you want a blonde, a white girl when you want an Asian girl). We do the best we can, hopefully learn from it, and most importantly get some enjoyment out of our time / money. Like everyone else my clock is only counting in one direction, and I'm not particularly interested in being buried with every penny I ever earned.

[DarkStar112]

To: Axel.

"In most cases the girls will agree to half of their original ask when I offer it" I might have to try that when I get back down there haha.

[Axel Heyst]

Man, you must have a lot of money to throw away like that. Are you US-American? You guys have no idea how to deal with women, not even prostitutes.

Why would you post this negative comment? The OP filed a good trip report. Ok, he admitted he chose a Scandallo unwisely and in haste and then he let the girl get away with a CBJ in the room. Everybody fucks up once in a while, but the OP reports all this honestly, so I say, cut him some slack.

The important point is that in November 2022,800 br / session in Scandallo is not out of the ordinary. I have had Scandallo girls ask me anywhere from 500 br to 2500 br for an in-house session. In most cases the girls will agree to half of their original ask when I offer it. So, the real question is, is a Tier 1 Scandallo girl worth 1200 br / hour? I am talking about approximately 10% of the girls on a Thursday or Friday night IE the really good-looking model quality girls. The answer is that it's up to the individual punter. Some guys don't like Tier 1 model quality girls. They prefer something a little raunchier. Some guys can't afford Tier 1 model quality girls. And some guys will not play at this price level on principal even if they can easily afford it. But saying a guy doesn't know what he is doing because he went to Scandallo and paid the ballpark rate without negotiating it down is just wrong and not very friendly.

Your negativity indicates that either you have never been to Scandallo or you have been there, but do not like paying Scandallo prices. In the latter case, that is fine. It is your money, spend it any way you like on anyone who will accept it. But in the former case, I think you might want to hold back on the criticism. There are some girls in Scandallo that you will not find in other boates, clinicas, or RJ termas and that's a fact.