Sao Paulo Reports

[The Critic]

I am going to try to make this as simple as possible

You can read this post. My suggestion is for newbies, do it like I said and learn from there if you don't know and don't want to be taken advantage of. It's a starting point and you may reach a final price in between.

Axel & Nounce, this is good guidance on strategies for the uninitiated in dealing with Scandalo and boate girls in general.

[MiamiBoy1]

You can get attractive girls online for around 500-600. You add the girl's cost of 250 to 300 to work at Scandallo. The girl needs to charge 800-900 to make the same amount of money so I think that is a reasonable price for an attractive girl that is not a Scandallo regular.

This makes a lot of sense. How does your math work for pernoites?

[Axel Heyst]

Wait, I'm confused. Almost all of the reports here about Scandallo, even going back 2 years, have reported of girls accepting R600-R1000. Very rarely were there reports of girls excepting R500 or less. I'm not questioning the validity of your post, I'm just curious since one would have to visit Scandallo at least a couple times per week for several weeks to find out which ones are regulars. Even then I don't think ALL the regulars would take R500. Would you clarify what is this 'new component'?

I think one would need to always bargain regardless one's intent to repeat or not.

I did pay more and did it several times because the girls were attractive. It has been mentioned in my prior posts. I am actually not interested in what you can get for 500. I have also analyzed the situation in my earlier posts with actual examples based on other members' posts. Keep in mind, the poster's question and I mainly am talking about the regulars in Scandallo so I am pretty sure the extra component is added to their price so the 50% off is to remove that extra component.

My suggestion is for newbies, do it like I said and learn from there if you don't know and don't want to be taken advantage of. It's a starting point and you may reach a final price in between. I have other source about the same girl so I know it is likely true

You can get attractive girls online for around 500-600. You add the girl's cost of 250 to 300 to work at Scandallo. The girl needs to charge 800-900 to make the same amount of money so I think that is a reasonable price for an attractive girl that is not a Scandallo regular. Just keep in mind that it is an estimate what a reasonable price is, it is not the price you will get. The numbers may have changed but the math is the same.

Coincidently, I have posted a picture of a Scandallo girl here before. She is one of the most attractive girls I met at Scandallo. She charged 800 at Scandallo and 600 online. There was an online discussion by locals about her. She accepted only a few online sessions a week because she said she could easily get paid more at Scandallo. She schooled me about inflation too.

I also don't think all girls pay to work there. I met a girl who was sent there by her agency. My guess is she does not have to pay because she was asked to be present there. I had her in my place several times and she would mention to me when she would be at Scandallo because the owner asked their presence. There is no reason for her to pay to work at Scandallo for one day a week on a slow day.

I am going to try to make this as simple as possible:

Definitions: "Regular" Scandallo girls means girls that show up at Scandallo per schedule on prespecified nights, usually 4 nights a week. There are regular afternoon girls and regular evening girls. My Valerie is a "regular evening girl". She is expected to work 4 nights a week, 10 pm until closing time, and she must show up before 10 pm in order to avoid paying an entry fee of 200 br. Valerie is IMHO a "Tier Two" Scandallo girl meaning she is a very cute and sexy girl next door type who does not look like a hooker. She is never asked to register when I walk her through a 5-star hotel lobby.

By my definition "Tier one" Scandallo girls are model quality girls with natural bodies although if a girl has a really great naturally looking set of silly cones, I will still consider her Tier One as long as she is drop dead gorgeous. In any case "Tier One" Scandallo girls are smokin' hot and they know it. So, many Tier Ones are very popular and can ask very high prices. Some of these girls show up on a scheduled basis to avoid the entry fee, but other "Tier Ones" are true independent contractors and only show up when they feel like it and they don't mind paying the entry fee because their rate is very high.

Now It really doesn't matter if a customer knows if a girl is a "regular" or not because it is all in the price. If a girl asks for 1000 or less, she is Tier 2 or considers herself Tier 2 based on her popularity. A girl's popularity can be based on her looks, but it can also be based on the quality of her service. Local repeat customers talk to one another about their girls and a girl's reputation gets around. This is one of the main reasons service is so good at Scandallo and other boates. The locals keep the girls honest.

If a girl initially asks for 2000 or 1500, she is Tier 1 or considers herself Tier one or she has sized up the customer and thinks it is worth a try to ask an enormous amount. I should add that girls talk too and repeat customers will earn certain reputations after a while. For example, I have been told by a few girls that I have good reputation and I am known as a moderate spender.

In any case my advice as well as Nounce's is to always counter a girl's initial ask with half and see what happens. If a girl asks 900, I will counter with 500 and settle somewhere around 700. Some girls will not come down from 800. If that is the case, then it is up to me to say yes or no depending on how I feel about the girl based on her looks and how she is doing in the interview. There is no right or wrong response. Do what feels right.

But it usually comes as no surprise to me when a girl initially asks for more like as much as 2000,1500, or 1200 because I have already sized her up as Tier One looker before I begin talking to her. With a 2000 initial ask I will counter with 900 and the girl will almost always accept 1000 to 1200. A 1500 initial ask girl will usually settle for 900 to 1000. And a 1200 initial ask girl will usually settle for 800 or 900. This is my experience anyway. YMMV depending on your reputation if you have one, your Portuguese, your looks, and of course your personality. I always keep it light and friendly. I never hard negotiate because I think that is detrimental to the cause. HA HA. There are many girls to choose from, the girls know this at least as well as we do, so hard negotiation is never necessary. Just part company in a friendly way if you can't agree on price.

In rare cases when a Tier Two or even a Tier 3 girl (in my estimation) is trying to test me (I am a gringo) by initially asking a Tier One price, I will laugh it off and offer 500 and won't go higher than 600 because trying to take advantage is a negative indicator of things to come in my opinion. The girls know their true ranking.

So, I hope this helps freshmen Scandalloites. It is not hard to understand, and it should be fun. 1. Know the type of girl you are attracted to, and where she realistically stands in the hierarchy. 2. Offer her half of her initial ask. She may accept your counter or ask a little more. Half the initial ask + 200 is my usual max. But there is no set price only reasonable price ranges. Never pay more than you are comfortable with. There are many girls to choose from, but on the other hand, don't come to Scandallo, the primero SP establishment, thinking you can get by on the cheap. There are several viable alternative Boates to choose from. Bomboa generally does not have many Tier One girls, so negotiations are simple. Bomboa girls may initially ask as much as 1000, most ask less, but almost all will agree to 600 to 700. I have never paid more than 800 in Bomboa and that girl was very hot. Casarao girls ask between 350 and 500. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder so go where you like, shag who you like. I like to mix it up a bit. Great service to very good service is the norm from ALL boate girls. After all this is Sao Paulo, the city of women.

[Nounce]

...I have a few questions about mongering in Sao Paulo:....

Good idea to check GPG but you may not find many reviews of high price ones there. I met a bad one that we didn't even have sex, then I posted a review for her on GPG and I found out there was a bad review already so I should have checked.

Another source is Twitter. You need to find out who to follow and you will see working girls posting updates.

Not way better for me and other people I met there because we went there the first time with expectation that was too high, but you are likely to find a higher percentage of what you are looking for. It's better to go there with lower expectation and to be surprised on the upside. The online pictures are photoshopped so you can't compare that to real girls you see.

[Nounce]

Wait, I'm confused. Almost all of the reports here about Scandallo, even going back 2 years, have reported of girls accepting R600-R1000. Very rarely were there reports of girls excepting R500 or less. I'm not questioning the validity of your post, I'm just curious since one would have to visit Scandallo at least a couple times per week for several weeks to find out which ones are regulars. Even then I don't think ALL the regulars would take R500. Would you clarify what is this 'new component'?

I think one would need to always bargain regardless one's intent to repeat or not.

You can read this post. My suggestion is for newbies, do it like I said and learn from there if you don't know and don't want to be taken advantage of. It's a starting point and you may reach a final price in between. I have other source about the same girl so I know it is likely true

.... I think the current pricing just added a layer of dishonesty. ....

I am going to repeat what I have posted before. You can get attractive girls online for around 500-600. You add the girl's cost of 250 to 300 to work at Scandallo. The girl needs to charge 800-900 to make the same amount of money so I think that is a reasonable price for an attractive girl that is not a Scandallo regular. Just keep in mind that it is an estimate what a reasonable price is, it is not the price you will get. The numbers may have changed but the math is the same.

Coincidently, I have posted a picture of a Scandallo girl here before. She is one of the most attractive girls I met at Scandallo. She charged 800 at Scandallo and 600 online. There was an online discussion by locals about her. She accepted only a few online sessions a week because she said she could easily get paid more at Scandallo. She schooled me about inflation too.

I also don't think all girls pay to work there. I met a girl who was sent there by her agency. My guess is she does not have to pay because she was asked to be present there. I had her in my place several times and she would mention to me when she would be at Scandallo because the owner asked their presence. There is no reason for her to pay to work at Scandallo for one day a week on a slow day.

I think this price may stick eventually. I went to a Medellin club about a month ago. All quotes are in USD. The least amount is 200USD/hr and the most is 300USD/hr. The girls are not even attractive to me. This place used to be 200 mil COP. My guess is some tourists misunderstood 200 as 200 USD and paid that. Then it became a scam to trap tourists, and now it becomes a standard opening price. 200 USD in about 1 million COP in today's exchange rate.

[SexIsLove]

For those on the ground or who have completed recent trips, outside if Scandallo, which 3 venues are your favourite in SP right now?

Just got back from SP yesterday after a 2 week stay. Scandallo a few times and the rest once each Bomboa, cafe foto, Casarao, Bahamas. Picked up one each time pernoite except the hottie from Bomboa had her come over a few times.

Otherwise it was some repeat girls from previous visits and a few new ones from Scandallo. All pernoite with evenings out in the city dining clubbing etc. No hourly stuff, no clinicas just "GFE" type experiences. Do not feel the need for rushing around and quantity. Simply all relaxed evenings out.

Overall same repeat fun as previous trips. Only difference is that Scandallo prices are going through the roof, one even quoted 5 K pernoite haha. Also some of them were asking to be paid upfront got a polite tchau tchau from me, plenty of fish.

[DreamCarnarvon]

The regulars will take 500 or less. The less attractive ones will open at 500 too. Like I said before, there is a new component added in the pricing so you need to counter with 50% off if you are not sure.

Bargaining will be beneficial if you intent to repeat because it sets the base price, otherwise not that much.

Wait, I'm confused. Almost all of the reports here about Scandallo, even going back 2 years, have reported of girls accepting R600-R1000. Very rarely were there reports of girls excepting R500 or less. I'm not questioning the validity of your post, I'm just curious since one would have to visit Scandallo at least a couple times per week for several weeks to find out which ones are regulars. Even then I don't think ALL the regulars would take R500. Would you clarify what is this 'new component'?

I think one would need to always bargain regardless one's intent to repeat or not.

[SamaRiding]

Hello everyone. New to Brazil & to this forum. I hope I'm posting in the right place.

I have a few questions about mongering in Sao Paulo:

1. My airbnb admin requires me to send the full name and a document of every visitor I want to bring in. I guess in this case I'm not going to have any outcalls in this place, or perhaps there are some ways to trick them without exposing the girl's privacy?

Thanks in advance.

Are they asking you to submit the IDs in advance or for the guests to give their IDs at the lobby? Most luxury buildings in Brazil require people to give their IDS to be copied, photos taken and even fingerprints. This is very common and all the GPS know and do this. I've stayed in buildings that have tighter security than most banks with fingerprint access and double gated entry / driveway. I try to find an Airbnb that doesn't require advance submission, which is usually the host policy and not the building policy. If the guest policy is not clear, sometimes I would ask the host. I tell them I'm in SP for work and would it be ok for me to invite 1-2 coworkers over. I mention they will be quiet and will not use the common spaces. Hahaha.

[Nounce]

In my 2022 experience super attractive Tier 1 girls will not accept 500 and I do not believe attractive Tier 2 girls will go for 500 either although I might be wrong on that one. I would love to see you negotiate a Tier 2 girl down to 500. But I do agree with you about countering anything a Scandallo girl originally asks with 50%. Most Tier 2 girls will accept the counteroffer if it equals 600 or 700 or they will come back with 50% off the original ask +200. Then it is up to you. I have never had a Tier 1 Scandallo girl accept less than 800 (in 2022). Of course, our definitions of what a Tier 1 girl and Tier 2 girl is may differ. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And then there are Tier 3 and Tier 4 girls that I won't shag for 200 or even for free, but somebody must be shagging them and having a good time, or they would not be there. KKK.

I did pay more and did it several times because the girls were attractive. It has been mentioned in my prior posts. I am actually not interested in what you can get for 500. I have also analyzed the situation in my earlier posts with actual examples based on other members' posts. Keep in mind, the poster's question and I mainly am talking about the regulars in Scandallo so I am pretty sure the extra component is added to their price so the 50% off is to remove that extra component. There was one member reported got a quote for 400 when I was quoted 1000 by the same girl not long ago. I did not bargain because that is one night I decided to do a survey with girls that were friendly with me which I reported in a post too.

[Axel Heyst]

The regulars will take 500 or less. The less attractive ones will open at 500 too. Like I said before, there is a new component added in the pricing so you need to counter with 50% off if you are not sure.

Bargaining will be beneficial if you intent to repeat because it sets the base price, otherwise not that much.

In my 2022 experience super attractive Tier 1 girls will not accept 500 and I do not believe attractive Tier 2 girls will go for 500 either although I might be wrong on that one. I would love to see you negotiate a Tier 2 girl down to 500. But I do agree with you about countering anything a Scandallo girl originally asks with 50%. Most Tier 2 girls will accept the counteroffer if it equals 600 or 700 or they will come back with 50% off the original ask +200. Then it is up to you. I have never had a Tier 1 Scandallo girl accept less than 800 (in 2022). Of course, our definitions of what a Tier 1 girl and Tier 2 girl is may differ. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And then there are Tier 3 and Tier 4 girls that I won't shag for 200 or even for free, but somebody must be shagging them and having a good time, or they would not be there. KKK.

[Bang Koker]

Hello everyone. New to Brazil & to this forum. I hope I'm posting in the right place.

I have a few questions about mongering in Sao Paulo:

1. My airbnb admin requires me to send the full name and a document of every visitor I want to bring in. I guess in this case I'm not going to have any outcalls in this place, or perhaps there are some ways to trick them without exposing the girl's privacy?

2. I need some general know-how. I'm not into restaurants, dating, GFE and that type of stuff, I just want to have an hour with a good looking escort every now and then. I guess in my case the best places to look for gatas are splove / private55/ clubmodel / photoacompanhantes and then I browse GPG for the opinions before scheduling an appointment, correct?

3. Are girls in scandallo way better than those I can find on the sites mentioned above or the looks are comparable? If the ones from scandallo are way hotter, is there any way to get one from there somehow privately so I don't have to pay for entrance / room etc?

Thanks in advance.

[Nounce]

Thanks for the very well written report and review! I'm curious about one thing, did you ever try offering below 800/ HR at Scandallo? Last time I was there, I felt 600 was a good rate that most would accept. I'm curious if that is now 800.

Just counter with 50% what she first quotes you.

The regulars will take 500 or less. The less attractive ones will open at 500 too. Like I said before, there is a new component added in the pricing so you need to counter with 50% off if you are not sure.

Bargaining will be beneficial if you intent to repeat because it sets the base price, otherwise not that much.

[The Cane]

Thanks for the very well written report and review! I'm curious about one thing, did you ever try offering below 800/ HR at Scandallo? Last time I was there, I felt 600 was a good rate that most would accept. I'm curious if that is now 800.

When the exchange rate was 3 to 1 an offer of 600 per hour was solid. Now that the rate is at 5 to 1 for some time now, reports mostly show that the girls are starting out asking for more. On one level the exchange rate should not matter, but we all know that it ultimately does. Not just for us, but for the tutes too. Try to drive some hard bargains, and maybe you will succeed. But with current rates it appears from reports that fewer of the Scandallo girls will be happy with a 600/ HR offer. Seems based on recent reporting one should be prepared to pay at least 800 minimum for one of the hotter Scandallo girls.

[Trojan22]

Wrapping up a month in Sao Paulo, and I wanted to share my experiences / thoughts.

Scandallo.

This place is and continues to be the gold standard for Sao Paulo, and if I had to guess the world. You can find any type of woman here with little effort, and the service is fantastic. I've been trying to drink less this trip so I tried out the restaurant, and the food is actually very good. In my experience R800/ HR can get you anyone in the place, and while I've had girls ask for more, nobody as of yet refused 800 if I was clear I was willing to walk. My biggest piece of advice for people new to Scandallo is this: say no. Very attractive women are going to approach you, they're going to be flirty and charming, and you're going to want to fuck them. Anywhere else it wouldn't be a question, you'd say yes immediately, but you need to remember you're not anywhere else. So unless they're exactly what you want, say no, because 30 minutes later you will find your dream girl. In Scandallo you're surrounded by good options, but the price difference between good and great is almost nonexistent, so make sure you hold out for great. For an extended trip I tried to keep visits to 1/ week to help my wallet, but for a short trip I'd probably live here. When time is a major concern, you can show up and know you'll get consistent quality.

Thanks for the very well written report and review! I'm curious about one thing, did you ever try offering below 800/ HR at Scandallo? Last time I was there, I felt 600 was a good rate that most would accept. I'm curious if that is now 800.

[Axel Heyst]

1. Scandallo.

2. Bomboa.

3. Casarao.

4. Bahamas.

5. Cafe Photo.