Phnom Penh

[Philosophus]

I have no idea how you (Philosophus) and BrCitizen had such great experiences there, except, as you mention, for putting tons of effort with tons of patience, tons of time, and probably tons of drink money spent over many nights.

I cannot compare PP to BKK, really. I think BKK is the safer bet. But PP is poorer, younger, slimmer, more petite, more desperate. Girls are more curious in PP, and less papmpered, have less income security and appreciate their clients more. I am glad the mate who took a 33 why old had a good time, but it is like taking a 52 y old in UK, as Cambodia's average age is 25. Patience helps, and the 50 dollar bill is spent easily. But what is the point not investing in the experience if the flight sets you back 1500 or so bucks? Khmer culture is tolerant of sex, but girls need to mature somewhat to gain experience with a cambodian BF to start to enjoy the company of a paying lover 30 years her senior. I had beautiful bare back experiences with slim petite 19 year olds because I showed perseverance and I was lucky.

[Volterra]

Incl. Tuktuk driver fee I paid more to the tune of 90 US $ for a 3 h stint with a girl from a brothel off 136 street. I had her several times. The number of brothels we "visited" was 12 or so. They were all open air, open shed, or on motoped / tuk tuk. They were all pretty run down, and none of the young birds met my criteria except one, a 19 yo 5 ft. 75 lb small tit spinner with shapely feet, hands and long hair and a pretty face. She had had a boyfriend and was experienced and easy with having sex. I asked the driver for a small slim girl who is ok with not using a condom and after a long, interesting tuk tuk tour he found her. She worked at a sneaker factory for 130 US $ a month in a 40 h workweek. I asked her why she would not sit in a bar at 136 street. She answered she was no good at conversing in English and at marketing herself. She was a sweet gal. Not shy. Showered together, braided her hair for me, shaved her pussy completely upon request, yam yam, boom boom, cuni, cif, rimming and penetration anywhere. She came naturally various times and seemed to enjoy her Western debut experience. 3 h time in one of the best hotel rooms near the river with balcony etc. Impressed her. We went for dinner each time after sex. Hunting at 136 street takes also effort, no question. To throw a good party in a bar sets you back 50 bucks. But if your manner is nice and if you have game and look nice (I am too old to be considered "handsome", but I am authetic I guess), the few pretty ones will get interested, especially if you try several nights. Always a good idea to let the mama san know who you need so she can help motivate her to take the plunge. I had a girl of similar looks (5 ft3, no fat no tit stunner) who was more into herself and her beauty and her purity, much less willing to give during sex play, but surely impressable and orgasmic a few times, easily the prettiest girl in the bar and then some, but there were surely 5 birds of equal quality in the river bars, but I could not get them to give in or did not try for lack of time. So, yes, I chose among the 1 in 200 and the 5 in 500. Takes effort.

I have no idea how you (Philosophus) and BrCitizen had such great experiences there, except, as you mention, for putting tons of effort with tons of patience, tons of time, and probably tons of drink money spent over many nights. I could see that there must have been some guys getting it right in PP, but they / you must be of a certain breed. I am also well groomed, not hideous looking, and not stingy in the sense that I was also ready and willing to part with $60-90 easily for the higher quality birds. But no way I am going to throw an extra $50 for drinks to groups of girls at the bar. I saw a couple of dudes (maybe it was you LOL) doing that. It just takes too much work for the short stayer.

I would like to hear more from BrCitizen about his approach. I can only believe that the devil is in the details and you must have picked up on something that a lot of guys like me overlook in PP. And in terms of girl quality, I just didn't see that many that I thought were hot. Maybe things would look better and go more smoothly on a 2nd trip, but I would only do it if I have a longer time to build my MO.

PP is a puzzle to me. Clearly guys like RakSopheni and myself are fuming in frustration over it (even after my own continuous roaring in Pattaya / Bkk / AC over the past 2 months). I am going to keep reading this forum to see if I can see anything between the lines that starts to suggest opportunity.

[TravelingMan3]

But note that what you said about guys going to Brazil (stopped going after Help closed) is 100% not true. Help was such a small part of the overall scene! It's a huge country that's always had lots and lots of options beyond Help (which I never liked). I mean, you can't be paying attention to the threads on this site to even utter something like that.

Yea brother I just meant that Brazil ain't nothing new that was the spot like twenty years ago Patrica Oneal and Jim Norton talked about it back in the day of Opie and Anthony. I'm an ex Sosua guy and a lot of the guys that would be in Rio started going to Sosua when Help closed.

[The Cane]

I've been around the world and I'd say white chicks are the most selective.

And I like to fuck the most selective chicks. In the ass! But note that what you said about guys going to Brazil (stopped going after Help closed) is 100% not true. Help was such a small part of the overall scene! It's a huge country that's always had lots and lots of options beyond Help (which I never liked). I mean, you can't be paying attention to the threads on this site to even utter something like that. Things are alive and well in Brazil, especially now that the worst of the pandemic is over and the world is in recovery from that. Believe this!

[TravelingMan3]

I guess someone like you would say something like this

For those that have been around the world mongering I can state unequivocally asian putas are the most "selective".

Maybe you should stick to fucking your dirt poor black favela putas in the ass in Brasil.

While I'd also say Brazil is old news as dudes that would go to Rio stoped going after Help closed. I've been around the world and I'd say white chicks are the most selective I live in Pattaya those chicks fuck anybody. You may be thinking what about the chicks in Angeles city for example that only fuck Koreans they are doing that because Koreans pay over the going rate if a white dude lets say were to offer the Korean price she would fuck him. As far as the fucking black fevela putas in the ass do you think your doing something by fucking dirt poor Asian working girls in the ass in Asia.

[Sam Sanuk]

PP is the place where it seems that all old Lexus SUVs go to die. They are everywhere! ...

Indeed there are a lot of them. Lexus is a luxury brand made by Toyota. There are a lot of Toyota models in Cambo also. A couple of reasons: 1. Toyota makes products that are reliable for many years, kilometers / miles; 2. I've read that Japanese car owners keep a car for only about 5 years before getting a new one. So there are plenty being exported from Japan, which is a lot closer than from the USA (For sure, there are companies in Japan that specialize in exporting used vehicles.) The Cambodians are experts at making older cars look almost new. A Khmer friend of mine bought a Lexus SUV a few years ago that had been imported from the USA With the VIN number, I did a check on the car. It had an excellent service record and no indication that it had been in an accident. Folks who buy a Lexus likely have the $ to maintain same.

SS.

[Banana Boi]

some guy was using a service that only used Lexus SUVs so why not German SUVs?

PP is the place where it seems that all old Lexus SUVs go to die. They are everywhere! Drive by an used car dealership and you will see a ton of Lexus SUVs for sale. I took one of those Lexus SUVs to Sihanoukville once. The Lexus SUV must have been older than the bartender I took!

[Nuttin Serious]

M de Sade, your PM inbox is full.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Would anyone know of an app that you can use to order a Mercedes BMW or Porsche SUV Uber like service espec to and from the airport?

Yes I know PP is not NYC but I read on some travel forum some guy was using a service that only used Lexus SUVs so why not German SUVs?

Much of Asia loves German cars.

[MarquisdeSade1]

It's too late bro! The cat has long been out of the bag regarding the delights of Brazil. If there's any consolation for the Western monger, it is that Brazil (and Latin America as a whole) shall remain within his sphere of control since the Koreans and the Chinese are not about to be arriving in droves anytime soon. Why, for many of them (Asians) Brazil is literally on the other side of the world! I as a monger cede Asia to the Asian then, but I stand ready to defend my backyard territory. Besides, I'm not attracted to most Asian women anyway hehehe! Give me the white girls and the Latinas LOL!

No need to cede anything to anyone IMO and my experience in Asia (prob 200 bargirls) the westerner is typically really going to be preferred 9 out of 10 times.

Unless I figure you're a fat slobbering drunk like our YTube friend "fast Eddie".

They really prefer us, there's a very good reason a certain crowd needs to overpay them.

The other 1 out of 10 times she is a shark waiting for her prey, you know who she's waiting for, just move on.

Thanks for the post.

[Banana Boi]

Anyone know where any of the girls who worked at Same Same But Different bar on Street 110 are working? It was near those Korean / Japanese bars on 110.

[Muzungufotsy]

I'm thinking they were serving "cheese pizza", hence the mark up.

Must be a giant pizza.

[Philosophus]

Incl. Tuktuk driver fee I paid more to the tune of 90 US $ for a 3 h stint with a girl from a brothel off 136 street. I had her several times. The number of brothels we "visited" was 12 or so. They were all open air, open shed, or on motoped / tuk tuk. They were all pretty run down, and none of the young birds met my criteria except one, a 19 yo 5 ft. 75 lb small tit spinner with shapely feet, hands and long hair and a pretty face. She had had a boyfriend and was experienced and easy with having sex. I asked the driver for a small slim girl who is ok with not using a condom and after a long, interesting tuk tuk tour he found her. She worked at a sneaker factory for 130 US $ a month in a 40 h workweek. I asked her why she would not sit in a bar at 136 street. She answered she was no good at conversing in English and at marketing herself. She was a sweet gal. Not shy. Showered together, braided her hair for me, shaved her pussy completely upon request, yam yam, boom boom, cuni, cif, rimming and penetration anywhere. She came naturally various times and seemed to enjoy her Western debut experience. 3 h time in one of the best hotel rooms near the river with balcony etc. Impressed her. We went for dinner each time after sex. Hunting at 136 street takes also effort, no question. To throw a good party in a bar sets you back 50 bucks. But if your manner is nice and if you have game and look nice (I am too old to be considered "handsome", but I am authetic I guess), the few pretty ones will get interested, especially if you try several nights. Always a good idea to let the mama san know who you need so she can help motivate her to take the plunge. I had a girl of similar looks (5 ft3, no fat no tit stunner) who was more into herself and her beauty and her purity, much less willing to give during sex play, but surely impressable and orgasmic a few times, easily the prettiest girl in the bar and then some, but there were surely 5 birds of equal quality in the river bars, but I could not get them to give in or did not try for lack of time. So, yes, I chose among the 1 in 200 and the 5 in 500. Takes effort.

[RakSopheni]

So you paid 70 $ for a shag at a local brothel?

I'm thinking they were serving "cheese pizza", hence the mark up.

[Muzungufotsy]

I agree that PP is a good place to hang out. BKK may be more reliable, but PP is poorer, younger, slimmer (food costs), and the birds, even the stunners, have less choices. 136 street and surroundings are considered Western tourist territory. Don't be surprised to see few Asians. At the KTV there are more Asians. Cambodia's average age is 25 years. Plenty of 18 year olds come to PP, sleep in a joint dormitory / apartment with 10 other birds, and try their adventurous streak by sitting in a bar. I saw many young petite top lookers who called themselves originals (virgins) who don't go with men. That group exists. But I am sporty, lean, not young, not stingy and patient, don't drink, dress casually but in new, fresh outfits, and keep talking to them, and more times than not even the youngest and prettiest birds consented to going with me to my hotel room. Service levels vary, but to me half the fun is giving, is making the teenage girls cum after giving a good hot towel massage and using my tongue on hir vagina. Most girls can be wooed by patient carresses and loving touches. In PP condoms are optional. I salute the mate's caution, but I like it better without, especially given the low likelihood of an 18 year old cambodian girl to give me health problems is rather low. The best way to proceed is when a girl insists on a condom and you are lucky it breaks in her little womb. I have had this happen several times and the feeling was awesome. I made it last for as long as I could (did not CIP). Another way to proceed in PP is to find a tuk tuk driver who speaks good English. The better his English, the safer. He will drive you around town for 10 $ for an hour and show you the local brothels where Cambodian men go (take no credit cards with you, just have 100 $ ready in cash). Most of these girls are below my standards, but every once in a while you find a gem, a petite slim 18 or 19 year old who works in a sneaker factory and who needs some extra cash. You can tell the taxi driver exactly what you want from her and he will make sure the brothel owner knows and makes sure the girl knows what she must offer. In this setup the brothel owner, the taxi driver and the girl all earn, it cost me 80 US $ for 3 h, which is high for PP, but there is more commitment by the girl, for the taxi driver will propose a repeat the next day, he will check whether the girl was good with all that was promised and the girl knows the brothel owner can sanction her if not. I had some lovely young stunner GFE experiences this way where the girls did and allowed literally everything a man can ask for. And they also liked it very much.

So you paid 70 $ for a shag at a local brothel?