Bangkok Reports

[Uncle Volodya]

Just my opinion, but freelancers hanging out on Sukhumvit (mostly) between Sois 7 and 19 would probably be your best bet. You can also find them up Soi 11 from Sukhumvit. You can distinguish them from non pros by the way they dress (in most cases). Also, how they may respond to a long look or a smile in their direction.

Sam.

Good advice. Just make sure she is not a he (LB). I'd say the majority are LBs. And especially the better lookign ones. (See TomaSB a few posts below). It can be tough to tell. Especially if you are a newbie and a bit drunk. But they will usually be honest if you just ask directly.

[TurboST]

What's the name of the bar you went to?

Rainbow 4.

[Nyezhov]

Aloha! I'm looking forward to my first trip to Thailand, this coming May. Germany, Amsterdam, Bonaire, Curacao, all over the US, Canada, and Japan have seen me monger but this will be the first time to Thailand.

My plane arrives around midnight and I figure it'll be 1:30 am or so by the time I get to my AB&b which is about a 10 minute walk to Nana Plaza. Now I know myself well enough to know that I'll be both horney and tired by that point. A quick stop at a BJ bar would seem to be the perfect choice but it also seems that they will all be closed by then. At that hour, if one doesn't want to go to a loud club, are FLs the best option for a quick, easy, squirt before sleeping?

Many thanks for the reports and learning, can't wait to arrive.

Walking the stroll is about 3000 steps, I'd have to do it twice to find something doable, then you have the grass is greener syndrome everytime you see a hot one.

4 am or so I reckon.

Best to sleep, not that I'm any example.

[Sam Sanuk]

At that hour, if one doesn't want to go to a loud club, are FLs the best option for a quick, easy, squirt before sleeping?

Many thanks for the reports and learning, can't wait to arrive.

Just my opinion, but freelancers hanging out on Sukhumvit (mostly) between Sois 7 and 19 would probably be your best bet. You can also find them up Soi 11 from Sukhumvit. You can distinguish them from non pros by the way they dress (in most cases). Also, how they may respond to a long look or a smile in their direction.

Sam.

[Fortunate]

Aloha! I'm looking forward to my first trip to Thailand, this coming May. Germany, Amsterdam, Bonaire, Curacao, all over the US, Canada, and Japan have seen me monger but this will be the first time to Thailand.

My plane arrives around midnight and I figure it'll be 1:30 am or so by the time I get to my AB&b which is about a 10 minute walk to Nana Plaza. Now I know myself well enough to know that I'll be both horney and tired by that point. A quick stop at a BJ bar would seem to be the perfect choice but it also seems that they will all be closed by then. At that hour, if one doesn't want to go to a loud club, are FLs the best option for a quick, easy, squirt before sleeping?

Many thanks for the reports and learning, can't wait to arrive.

[Lefeu]

LOL. Come on now, in Western and more modernized countries, fake IDs are made and used everywhere. People seriously think that a country like Thailand and especially in cash businesses like bars, it's all 100% by the book? There is fake counterfeit shit everywhere.

Plus like people can't buy stolen ID cards online or off the street or borrow a friend's. How many of us can tell the difference or if it's the same girl with and without make up on ID card? Geez, the naiveness of some folks...

Absolutely! I've seen this phenomenon everywhere, fake IDs, friend's ID, etc.

A buddy of mine had a girl in Colombia that he was seeing regularly. On one trip, this fav could not see him, so she proposed her cousin and he agreed to it. Well, the cousin was under age, and the folks at his building refused entry to the girl. Once he went down to talk to security, they informed him that his girl was under age. He got upset and sent the girl home with no payment. Guess what, the girl went to the police instead. She showed up at his building with the cops in tow. After some discussion with the police, he ended paying her for the session that was not consumed. He was asked to leave the Airbnb soon after.

[Tomasb]

I believe it. Some nights I will grab a beer and sit at Leks Last Stand or O'Briens Irish Pub nearby and watch the action on Suk. The vast majority of FL's in this area of Suk between Soi 11 and Soi 19 are LB and they have quite a deep customer base from what I can tell. I see guys of all ages and nationalities arranging deals and hopping in a taxi or walking hand in hand down Suk headed to a short term or customer hotel.

There are a few GG's in the mix but they are mostly frumpy and have MILF status. The really hot looking ones are easily identified as LB and the same holds true for GG's who can be easily identified as not so hot, poorly dressed, and generally unappealing; most of these GG-FL's could not get a job at a bar or a go-go, which is why they plug their trade on the street. However, you can find some hotties who are GG in the disco and clubs later on if you have the stamina to hang out to the wee hours.

That's a good reason to have the girl turn her ID over to your hotel reception prior to going upstairs. Check her ID for sex and date of birth.

On the subject of LB, one of my recent female freelancers from Sukhumvit said that most of the customers wanted ladyboys. I find that hard to believe, but she insisted it was true.

[Cha Chumplin]

That's a good reason to have the girl turn her ID over to your hotel reception prior to going upstairs. Check her ID for sex and date of birth.

On the subject of LB, one of my recent female freelancers from Sukhumvit said that most of the customers wanted ladyboys. I find that hard to believe, but she insisted it was true.

Not True. Not True. Not True.

[NewImage]

Sorry for the delayed reply, I don't read the forum every day while I'm in Thailand. The very beautiful girl who was average performer asked for 2000 and the average looking girl who was a great performer asked for 1000. These were both quotes for CFS ST. You may negotiate different price or service.

Appreciate.

[ElMexicant]

Even if they say there are a girl due to a post op transition, their ID and DL still says they are a male. The Thai government has never allowed people to change their gender due to which gender they think that they should be. That's the tell if you are in doubt.

LOL. Come on now, in Western and more modernized countries, fake IDs are made and used everywhere. People seriously think that a country like Thailand and especially in cash businesses like bars, it's all 100% by the book? There is fake counterfeit shit everywhere. Plus like people can't buy stolen ID cards online or off the street or borrow a friend's. How many of us can tell the difference or if it's the same girl with and without make up on ID card? Geez, the naiveness of some folks. If you've been mongering in Thailand as a vet for a long time, chances are we've been duped by a post-op. I think back when I first started and how stupid of me to believe there were Korean girls selling themselves for 2000 on WeChat. And for 100% sure Smooci has post-ops that post under females. Pinche. Oh well, live and learn.

[HorseTrader]

Even if they say there are a girl due to a post op transition, their ID and DL still says they are a male. The Thai government has never allowed people to change their gender due to which gender they think that they should be. That's the tell if you are in doubt.

That's a good reason to have the girl turn her ID over to your hotel reception prior to going upstairs. Check her ID for sex and date of birth.

On the subject of LB, one of my recent female freelancers from Sukhumvit said that most of the customers wanted ladyboys. I find that hard to believe, but she insisted it was true.

[Tomasb]

Even if they say there are a girl due to a post op transition, their ID and DL still says they are a male. The Thai government has never allowed people to change their gender due to which gender they think that they should be. That's the tell if you are in doubt.

No. They just want your money. Customers will say no to a post OP, you just lie to them and say otherwise. If you think something is up or unusual in a sex work situation, then it probably is. This isn't a Thailand thing, its the industry.

Rainbow 4 or 5 are not mixed. Which are the main Rainbow bars. The others I think they just slapped the Rainbow name on but is otherwise a their old gogos, new name, so I suspect a few of the other rainbows have a LB or post op there and shut up about it. If you think it was a post op it probably was.

To people thinking Nana has always been mixed. No, no it hasn't. There were mixed bars, and of course, sometimes people just lie. But only a few bars were mixed, with Straps being the primary post-OP bar and a few of the smaller ones, that were often pretty empty being mixed but usually not shy that they were mixed bars and would call them "girls" in a cheecky sly way to make sure you know what they mean.

Rainbow 4/5, Angel Witch, Billboards, Butterflys, are the big names and not mixed. Most bars are not mixed.

Part of the issue though is that the main LB bars in Nana actually did close and that scene has moved elsewhere, but there's a much bigger supply of LB and post-op sex workers than the new scene can handle, and they are trickling in spots here and there and FLs.

[HorseTrader]

And the price you paid was? Please.

Sorry for the delayed reply, I don't read the forum every day while I'm in Thailand. The very beautiful girl who was average performer asked for 2000 and the average looking girl who was a great performer asked for 1000. These were both quotes for CFS ST. You may negotiate different price or service.

[Allover]

The last night she returned half the agreed fee and said I had treated her nice and she didn't want to make it all about the money. What a great marketing ploy, it worked as I saw her for one night on my last visit which was only two nights.

Your story reminds me of a similar incident that happened to me. About eight or nine years ago I did long time with a beautiful go go girl. I can't remember which gogo but I met her in Nana Plaza. As she got ready to leave in the morning she handed me a note. The note was written in English and she wrote that she had a great time and she was happy to have spent the night with me. I saw her one more time after that not just because she was pretty and gave good service, but because of the note.

[GrapeMan]

I went to Lollipop about 4 years ago. There were about 4 obvious young petite and super cute girls and the rest were obvious post-ops. Even when I asked the actual girls they said it's all girls in the bar. I rolled my eyes at her and she stuck to her story. Why? Cause in Thailand a post-op is considered a girl. Same as all the post-ops you find on online sites. They will all tell you they're a girl even when they weren't born a girl.

No. They just want your money. Customers will say no to a post OP, you just lie to them and say otherwise. If you think something is up or unusual in a sex work situation, then it probably is. This isn't a Thailand thing, its the industry.

Does Rainbow in Nana Plaza employ post op lady boys. I was in the one on the first floor and took a girl back. Everything about her felt like a lady, but once we left the club her voice just sounded deeper then I'm use too. At one point I ran my finger over her neck and did not feel any Adam's apple. I also asked her twice and she said 200% she is a lady. I did not think clubs mixed in Nana as there are lady boy specific ones.

Rainbow 4 or 5 are not mixed. Which are the main Rainbow bars. The others I think they just slapped the Rainbow name on but is otherwise a their old gogos, new name, so I suspect a few of the other rainbows have a LB or post op there and shut up about it. If you think it was a post op it probably was.

To people thinking Nana has always been mixed. No, no it hasn't. There were mixed bars, and of course, sometimes people just lie. But only a few bars were mixed, with Straps being the primary post-OP bar and a few of the smaller ones, that were often pretty empty being mixed but usually not shy that they were mixed bars and would call them "girls" in a cheecky sly way to make sure you know what they mean.

Rainbow 4/5, Angel Witch, Billboards, Butterflys, are the big names and not mixed. Most bars are not mixed.

Part of the issue though is that the main LB bars in Nana actually did close and that scene has moved elsewhere, but there's a much bigger supply of LB and post-op sex workers than the new scene can handle, and they are trickling in spots here and there and FLs.