Medellin Reports

[Combo]

So I've been in Bogota for a couple of months, and I was considering coming over to Medellin. Only thing that's made me aprehensive is that there's so many posts here and in the Cartagena section complaining about safety or pricing or something or the other. Meanwhile, there's very little of that in the Bogota section. I know a lot of you guys strictly prefer Medellin over Bogota for mongering, so can you describe which parts are better? Are the girls hotter? The clubs better? Things closer together? I'm considering coming over to check out Fase Dos and La Isla so anything describing the differences would be great.

Also, in another post Nil mentioned the going rate at those clubs is 300 k for 45 minutes. Is there another rate for a shorter time?

I think Bogota is as dangerous if not more so than Medellin. You just hear about guys being victims because a lot more guys visit Medellin. Also for mongering, Bogota is probably better. The reason guys, including myself, prefer Medellin, is because it's just a nicer city. Prettier, better weather, easier to get around. Just a much more pleasant place to spend a week or two.

[Knowledge]

I suppose should mention the Centro casas that used to be 45 K to 55 K are now 60 K to 65 K. As you noted, the extra little bit doesn't even matter to the locals really. The exchange rate at 4500 vs. The low 4,000's where it was a couple of years ago more than makes up the difference for anyone with foreign holdings.

Now, that extra 10 k is about $2 US so when you negotiate down to 35 k rather than 40 k, you are haggling over $1 US. Now for Centro rats, that may be a big deal depending on your budget. But I would say that for most mongers coming for a short trip, after spending money for airfare and hotels, that extra $2 per day or perhaps $4 per day for 2 days will not break the bank. Still, I understand the concerns about prices rising but there is thing called inflation and at some point, what you paid in the past will go up and you can't expect the same price for years and years or even from one year to another.

[Surfer500]

Now, that extra 10 k is about $2 US so when you negotiate down to 35 k rather than 40 k, you are haggling over $1 US. Now for Centro rats, that may be a big deal depending on your budget. But I would say that for most mongers coming for a short trip, after spending money for airfare and hotels, that extra $2 per day or perhaps $4 per day for 2 days will not break the bank. Still, I understand the concerns about prices rising but there is thing called inflation and at some point, what you paid in the past will go up and you can't expect the same price for years and years or even from one year to another.

Up until recently, the going "rack rate" for local mongers, meaning the prices quoted were typically 30 K by the Colombian SW's in Centro, and even less than that for the beached whales and other un-desirable SW's.

There has been at times fluctuations in pricing since before the Pandemic starting about five years ago with the onslaught of Venezuelans arriving who where undercutting their Colombian counterparts pricing wise. Many of them so desperate they would easily go for 20 K and / or do anything a guy would want for a small upcharge. I remember one Venezuelan telling me it was like 5 K more to go uncovered but I passed.

And during the height of the Pandemic when Colombia was basically closed to the world, it was a total buyers market for those here. And then all the SEA guys and other foreign mongers from around the world started showing up when basically the majority of mongering destinations around the world were basically closed.

So not only is it inflation that has caused pricing increases, but also as a result of all the new foreign mongers arriving here, and as you have noted, it's so inexpensive here, that haggling over "chump change" just doesn't happen for the reasons you noted.

[Anthony2023]

Hey A2023. We friends from Tijuana board.

Are you bringing her from Tijuana down to Medallo?

She's flying from her home state to cdmx. Cdmx to MDE.

[Cocr Brotheler]

Don't mean to brag, and I know someone will say I am but I couldn't resist commenting to your reply LOL. But for my upcoming trip to Colombia, I'm having toda la semana with what is a 10 in my eyes from a girl from HK and she's agreed to not charge me anything. I'm only paying for her food and flight. Point is one can always do better.

Hey A2023. We friends from Tijuana board.

Are you bringing her from Tijuana down to Medallo?

[Knowledge]

This sort of mess spiked up in recent months in Medellin. Unfortunately, it's also a thing worldwide. Just this week in New York there was an arrest in the case of a guy who turned up dead after leaving a gay bar in Hell's Kitchen. The suspect is being investigated in connection with several other similar cases.

"At least 41 people have been victims of drug-related robberies already in Medellin in 2023, according to Colombian news outlet Caracol Noticias, although it's unclear how many were related to dating apps."

It's scary how prevalent this scam is killing people. 41 people this year alone, (that they know reported the drugging / robbery), probably more than 41 now. Be safe fellas!

If you must use tinder, never ever drink or eat with a tinder date. Always be up front before meeting that you "do not drink at all". If there still willing to meet, make it a priority to go to a short time love motel. It's also a good idea to snap a pic of your tinder date.

Again, stay safe!

[MoonShot]

The life of the Centro rat is more expensive since the Botero Plaza barrier went up. As reported by the Head Rat In Charge, Surfer, girls are routinely asking 40 K. Some of them asked for that much and more for some time now. The difference since the barrier went up is it's now more work than I am willing to do to get dates for 30 K. We've settled on 35 K with minimal push back. So no big deal, it's only another 5 K. The hotels that used to charge 8 K are now getting 10 K. I should not complain because yesterday a girl told me the short time hotel she uses with gringos in Poblado costs 150 K. I did not ask the name of the hotel because well, you know, I am a Centro rat.

Now, that extra 10 k is about $2 US so when you negotiate down to 35 k rather than 40 k, you are haggling over $1 US. Now for Centro rats, that may be a big deal depending on your budget. But I would say that for most mongers coming for a short trip, after spending money for airfare and hotels, that extra $2 per day or perhaps $4 per day for 2 days will not break the bank. Still, I understand the concerns about prices rising but there is thing called inflation and at some point, what you paid in the past will go up and you can't expect the same price for years and years or even from one year to another.

[Surfer500]

The life of the Centro rat is more expensive since the Botero Plaza barrier went up. As reported by the Head Rat In Charge, Surfer, girls are routinely asking 40 K. Some of them asked for that much and more for some time now. The difference since the barrier went up is it's now more work than I am willing to do to get dates for 30 K. We've settled on 35 K with minimal push back. So no big deal, it's only another 5 K. The hotels that used to charge 8 K are now getting 10 K. I should not complain because yesterday a girl told me the short time hotel she uses with gringos in Poblado costs 150 K. I did not ask the name of the hotel because well, you know, I am a Centro rat.

Thanks for designating me as the "Head Rat In Charge", but I really haven't been frequenting Centro as much as I used to, but did spend several days a few weeks back sampling the wares, and yes pricing has gone up, but I don't see it as a function of the barriers as you note as the pricing has been climbing for awhile now before the barricades.

Some of my regulars' who live in Menrique, and other strata one barrios are telling me how much things have gone up here for everything, no different than all over the world.

As an example, one of my regulars told me that where she lives, people are seeing their electric / water bills doubling, in some instances going from like 45 K to 90 K, and they don't have water heaters or natural gas where they live in Menrique. And an additional $ 10 USD for a utility bill may seem like chump change to some here, but not for those living in a Strata 1 barrio, that's easily a days pay or more.

Yet, you can still find fresh faces showing up in Centro who are not beauty queens, and Colombians, who will still quote 30 K, but not many.

The Venezuelans are another matter though, and much more on top of asking for a lot, especially from gringos, and those with no experience in Centro and limited Spanish speaking skills.

It must be really pressing on you to have to fork out another 5 K to 10 K for a rato in Centro, and I hope you don't have to take on a second job, or take out a second mortgage to finance your extracurricular activities in Centro as it is getting so pricey. LOL.

[Temporis]

So I've been in Bogota for a couple of months, and I was considering coming over to Medellin. Only thing that's made me aprehensive is that there's so many posts here and in the Cartagena section complaining about safety or pricing or something or the other. Meanwhile, there's very little of that in the Bogota section. I know a lot of you guys strictly prefer Medellin over Bogota for mongering, so can you describe which parts are better? Are the girls hotter? The clubs better? Things closer together? I'm considering coming over to check out Fase Dos and La Isla so anything describing the differences would be great.

Also, in another post Nil mentioned the going rate at those clubs is 300 k for 45 minutes. Is there another rate for a shorter time?

[Knowledge]

The life of the Centro rat is more expensive since the Botero Plaza barrier went up. As reported by the Head Rat In Charge, Surfer, girls are routinely asking 40 K. Some of them asked for that much and more for some time now. The difference since the barrier went up is it's now more work than I am willing to do to get dates for 30 K. We've settled on 35 K with minimal push back. So no big deal, it's only another 5 K. The hotels that used to charge 8 K are now getting 10 K. I should not complain because yesterday a girl told me the short time hotel she uses with gringos in Poblado costs 150 K. I did not ask the name of the hotel because well, you know, I am a Centro rat.

[Mtndew704]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjvp...-of-his-murder

The suspects have been arrested! It looks like they were using some very potent synthetic drugs in high doses as opposed to Scopolamine. Be careful out there.

Yeah a guy I know in Medellin who was showing me videos on his phone of how they manufacture their own synthetic drugs. Very dangerous stuff.

[LoveItHere69]

Mtndew704, LoveItHere69, and others.

The guy made a perfectly reasonable request for information: how, in Medellin, can he most easily assemble a number of quality chicas to party with him and a group of friends, cost not being a serious constraint? "Reasonable" because the answer can't be found on an RTFF basis (i.e. by scouring through past posts on the thread). From what he wrote, there was no reason to conclude that he and his buddies are super naive or unduly cavalier about the risks of mongering on the quick here; just (like most of us) that they aren't overly paranoid.

Can't be found on an RTFF basis? True, but the answer can not easily be openly posted either. Help with contacts and numbers would require a personal message which requires a paid membership.

They are not naive? They think they are safe because they have security and a large number of people. That does not matter much when you come here not knowing crap and already assume you are safe.

I have read many of these party groups wanting information but never a post afterwards about it. Plus, these groups of guys are the ones screwing up prices and attitudes of the girls and post too much stuff on Youtube. Since they do not post afterwards they might as well contribute membership money.

If he had done any research at all he would say something such as. "My research tells me that going to casas and getting the girls to visit after work seems safest because we know where they work and how to find them and ID them if problems arise. Plus, we can test drive them beforehand quickly and cheaply. But the girls on photopregagos.com seem like an easier way to find and contact the girls but ."

Just general broad questions. No specific questions highly indicates no research attempted.

[DownLow123]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjvp...-of-his-murder

The suspects have been arrested! It looks like they were using some very potent synthetic drugs in high doses as opposed to Scopolamine. Be careful out there.

"At least 41 people have been victims of drug-related robberies already in Medellin in 2023, according to Colombian news outlet Caracol Noticias, although it's unclear how many were related to dating apps."

It's scary how prevalent this scam is killing people. 41 people this year alone, (that they know reported the drugging / robbery), probably more than 41 now. Be safe fellas!

If you must use tinder, never ever drink or eat with a tinder date. Always be up front before meeting that you "do not drink at all". If there still willing to meet, make it a priority to go to a short time love motel. It's also a good idea to snap a pic of your tinder date.

Again, stay safe!

[Nil Admirari]

I'm going to be honest, you sound like you are full of shit and I doubt you'll even come to Medellin.

Na, we don't have time for playing games. We are looking to have fun and won't be changing plans. Whatever we talk about is what's agreed on. I'm just wanting to make sure we have a safe trip and a fun trip without getting drugged and whatnot. Obviously it won't happen as we are cautious and a large group and we have security, but really just want to find the best girls possible.

Mtndew704, LoveItHere69, and others.

What's the point of piling on to Snipe420? The guy made a perfectly reasonable request for information: how, in Medellin, can he most easily assemble a number of quality chicas to party with him and a group of friends, cost not being a serious constraint? "Reasonable" because the answer can't be found on an RTFF basis (i.e. by scouring through past posts on the thread). From what he wrote, there was no reason to conclude that he and his buddies are super naive or unduly cavalier about the risks of mongering on the quick here; just (like most of us) that they aren't overly paranoid.

I think the "reply to post" ethic here should be to respond to a request if you have some useful advice / info to offer, and, unless the questioner has been egregiously rude / obnoxious, to keep the snide / negative reactions and comments to oneself.

For Snipe420, one additional suggestion--although I don't personally have any experience organizing the kind of bacchanal that you envision. JjBee62 gave you some useful suggestions (each of you perusing escort sites such as photoprepagos, mileroticos for your preferred types of chicas, or perhaps taking him up on the offer of his friend's middlewoman services)--this despite his overreacting somewhat to your "Obviously it won't happen" remark.

Another option, IF your schedule permits and you prefer to recruit chicas face-to-face without the risk of photoshopped pixs on the escort websites): Your first night here, visit one or more of the three highest-end clubs: GUSTO for independents; La Isla and Fase Dos for the best strip club chicas. As reported many times here, in GUSTO expect the hottest chicas to quote exorbitant (for Colombia) prices in US dollars but still relatively cheap ones by US standards. The two strip clubs, if I'm not mistaken, will have a fixed per hour fee for leaving with a chica. On site at these two clubs, the going rate is 300 mil (or a bit plus) for 45 minutes of bedtime, so be prepared to pay substantially more for "take out". Or you might be able to collect WhatsApp contacts and negotiate their coming to party at your place for the next several nights independently of their affiliation with the club.

All three of these clubs will have a quite large number of chicas available (the most at La Isla), especially Wednesday through Saturday nights: GUSTOs after 11 pm; La Isla and Fase Dos, starting about 9:30, but also best after 10:30 or later. If money not a constraint, GUSTO would lend itself best to quickly finding a number of girls ready on the spot to leave and party with you. Club addresses can be found in Google Maps or Waze.

Hope this helps. Happy hunting, and let us know how you and your gang make out.

[Chicago85]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qjvp...-of-his-murder

The suspects have been arrested! It looks like they were using some very potent synthetic drugs in high doses as opposed to Scopolamine. Be careful out there.