Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Hey, I'll be traveling to Madrid this week and been talking to few gills before hand on seeking arragments.

My impression is that its more a escort site than a dating site.

I have a date no sex for 200 $.

And if I want more I need to pay.

Is it me or more than 90% are just profesional escort?

I've been trying for 2 days only and I am an ok looking guy.

Also please let me know if I am paying to much.

Although its always relative.

Never ever pay for a no sex date. Ever.

Yes many pros. It takes time to find the non and semi pros. 2 days is not enough time to find quality. Because some girls only come on one a week. It's the pros who are on constantly.

$250-400 is prob going rate. Others chime in.

And of course Seeking isn’t ur only option. Vive is worth going to. Nightclub w girls for hire to onsite rooms. Search for Vive and u will find my and other reports.

[CitizenX1]

Hey, I'll be traveling to Madrid this week and been talking to few gills before hand on seeking arragments.

My impression is that its more a escort site than a dating site.

I have a date no sex for 200 $.

And if I want more I need to pay.

Is it me or more than 90% are just profesional escort?

I've been trying for 2 days only and I am an ok looking guy.

Also please let me know if I am paying to much.

Although its always relative.

[NapataJohn]

I have a shortlist of about 10 girls for my upcoming trip and 5-10 more who agreed to meet during chats. What the fuck do I do now? I only have a 10 day trip.

Many of them will flake so it is okay.

[Gfefan]

Also profiles that have selfies and selfies only. That too from bathroom mirror. I straightaway block those. Pros masquerading. Nothing against pros. If you are a pro, just say that and we will work our interactions accordingly. I have a favorite pro I meet frequently. No nonsense. Gives me a BBBJCIM whenever I need a release. She doesn't masquerade as SB. Sometimes she even borrowed money from me (few 100's) and that sweet one paid me back (yes, she gave me the cash) next meeting but I politely refused.

The other nonsense with American girls is "My love language is receiving gifts". Idiots. What makes you think I am here to speak "love language" to you? Even if I did, my love language is shoving my dick up in your pussy. That is it. Happy to give gifts in exchange of that but "send me something from my wishlist so that I know you are serious". Yes, *****, I am serious about putting my dick inside. That can happen only when you spread your legs. So, ge your ass up to meet me or I am happy to block you. You want your love language? You first speak my love language.

What about the ones whose headlines say, "Read my profile first". But then when you scroll down you find that they haven't told you a damn thing about themselves (rolling eyes)! Maybe girls from other countries do the same thing. I don't know since I've only used SA in the States. I just find it to be pretty annoying. To tell people to read your profile, but then you haven't actually said jack shit about yourself, let alone taken the time to read my profile! What am I looking for? RTFF! LOLOLOL!

[Intelligencium]

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You have to sample the buffet before you fill your plate. So do this. Put your fave girl on day 1 and second fave on day 2 and third fave on day 3. Prob stop there.

I have a shortlist of about 10 girls for my upcoming trip and 5-10 more who agreed to meet during chats. What the fuck do I do now? I only have a 10 day trip 😔.

[The Cane]

+1. The sense of entitlement and attitude of girls in US SA has made me retreat. They are not worth my time or $. Plus, you will see that world starts at Atlantic coast and ends at the Pacific coast for many of them. Hardly can hold a conversation (but call themaelves "educated" "Well traveled" = having visited LA from SFO, or Vegas from San Diego, knows "history" = since they were born 20 odd years ago, cultured means what "Hollywood" says is true about rest of world. "Smart" means an ability to talk you into spending $500 for a boring coffee chat and lame sex after. I just can't wait to head back to Europe.

What about the ones whose headlines say, "Read my profile first". But then when you scroll down you find that they haven't told you a damn thing about themselves (rolling eyes)! Maybe girls from other countries do the same thing. I don't know since I've only used SA in the States. I just find it to be pretty annoying. To tell people to read your profile, but then you haven't actually said jack shit about yourself, let alone taken the time to read my profile! What am I looking for? RTFF! LOLOLOL!

[Gfefan]

+1. The sense of entitlement and attitude of girls in US SA has made me retreat. They are not worth my time or $. Plus, you will see that world starts at Atlantic coast and ends at the Pacific coast for many of them. Hardly can hold a conversation (but call themaelves "educated" "Well traveled" = having visited LA from SFO, or Vegas from San Diego, knows "history" = since they were born 20 odd years ago, cultured means what "Hollywood" says is true about rest of world. "Smart" means an ability to talk you into spending $500 for a boring coffee chat and lame sex after.

I just can't wait to head back to Europe.

Sorry to be a bad news bear, but IMO, SA in America sux.

You need lot of time and patience to score good SBs.

In 10 day trip, I would suggest, you shud stick to WGs. (Most of SA girls in LA / SF wud be WGs anyway).

Or try Mexico or Canada, you will have better chance of finding real SBs with great vibe.

[Midwestern]

Sorry to be a bad news bear, but IMO, SA in America sux.

You need lot of time and patience to score good SBs.

In 10 day trip, I would suggest, you shud stick to WGs. (Most of SA girls in LA / SF wud be WGs anyway).

Or try Mexico or Canada, you will have better chance of finding real SBs with great vibe.

Another suggestion for LA / SF are the AMPS. Maybe check out rub maps for intel. Some of the hottest gals that I have ever had the pleasure do the deed with were in West Coast AMPS.

[NapataJohn]

Best areas for me in order: Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto

By any chance did you get to bring a Canadian SB into Plattsburgh NY and spend 2 days there? I was thinking of doing that for a Canadian SB until I feel I can trust her better.

[Pk099]

Sorry to be a bad news bear, but IMO, SA in America sux.

You need lot of time and patience to score good SBs.

In 10 day trip, I would suggest, you shud stick to WGs. (Most of SA girls in LA / SF wud be WGs anyway).

Or try Mexico or Canada, you will have better chance of finding real SBs with great vibe.

Hi All,

Avid reader of this forum!!

My SA base is India mostly however I dabble in Dubai, Germany and London as well!!

Have an American Solo Vacation coming up so will be in LA, SF and surrounding areas for 10 days.

Can some of the seniors guide me on the way forward here. From what I read USA is overall hard to crack. I obviously don't want to spend money on WG's would prefer the SA vibe. Plus it is my birthday on the trip as well.

My plan is to get Nice fancy AirBnB's where I stay. I ocassionaly stone as well so hence planning it that way. Will also probably rent out a car for road trips and so on.

All help will be appreciated and reciprocated and if any of you fine gents are ever in India and need some inputs or connects will surely be able to help.

TIA.

[FastMdSter]

Hi All,

Avid reader of this forum!!

My SA base is India mostly however I dabble in Dubai, Germany and London as well!!

Have an American Solo Vacation coming up so will be in LA, SF and surrounding areas for 10 days.

Can some of the seniors guide me on the way forward here. From what I read USA is overall hard to crack. I obviously don't want to spend money on WG's would prefer the SA vibe. Plus it is my birthday on the trip as well.

My plan is to get Nice fancy AirBnB's where I stay. I ocassionaly stone as well so hence planning it that way. Will also probably rent out a car for road trips and so on.

All help will be appreciated and reciprocated and if any of you fine gents are ever in India and need some inputs or connects will surely be able to help.

TIA.

I would go with a hotel. Vegas has a mix of pro, semi-pro (waitresses / bottle girls etc). However, it's easy to score in bars / clubs there so I wouldn't bother.

LA has it all.

Happy birthday.

[NapataJohn]

Hi All,.

See the Vegas forum as Vegas is near and its very easy to pickup there. Or you can go to Tijuana very easily to Hong Kong Strip Club.

Hotels are better as here no one cares if someone comes to see you whereas Airbnb may have issues.

[Ruch888]

Hi All,

Avid reader of this forum!!

My SA base is India mostly however I dabble in Dubai, Germany and London as well!!

Have an American Solo Vacation coming up so will be in LA, SF and surrounding areas for 10 days.

Can some of the seniors guide me on the way forward here. From what I read USA is overall hard to crack. I obviously don't want to spend money on WG's would prefer the SA vibe. Plus it is my birthday on the trip as well.

My plan is to get Nice fancy AirBnB's where I stay. I ocassionaly stone as well so hence planning it that way. Will also probably rent out a car for road trips and so on.

All help will be appreciated and reciprocated and if any of you fine gents are ever in India and need some inputs or connects will surely be able to help.

TIA.

[FastMdSter]

It's coming up on 1 year since I joined SA because of the posts in this forum. So I wanted to give back. Have not had a any FR in along time.

SA was an unbelievable success. I had used tinder in the past and much better on SA.

Locations: USA-NYC / NJ (homebase), PA, FL, Chicago, Seattle, CA-SFO / Sonoma.

Europe-Paris, Berlin, Frankfurt, Munich, Vienna, London, Warsaw, Madrid, Barcelona, Lisbon, London, Zurich.

CDMX.

Canada-Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto.

Best areas for me in order: Vancouver, Montreal, Toronto, CDMX, Frankfurt, Berlin, Madrid, Barcelona-USA dead last.

Time spent: a lot more than escorts.

Money:

I don't provide any gifts, gift cards etc. I will provide dinners at the best restaurants, bottles etc because that's what I would do for myself.

CDMX is the best value. Canada is my favorite. Then Germany, Warsaw, Spain, Lisbon, Paris, London is a different fish.

I had a 65/35 ratio.

65% of the time it cost me a night / day out, which could be anywhere from $300-$1500 depending on where I chose to eat and how much we drank.

Most expensive night was in London, Dinner at Nobu and then partying at Novakov with 2 stunners, started with 1, and she called her friend, that was 5 figure night, which led to a unforgettable weekend.

35% of the time it averaged $400-$500 full night.

Type: I go for only 8+ (for reference- Gal Gadot, Margot Robbie, Ana Darmas, Emily Ratakovski are who I consider 8+ Sofia Vegara / shakira / Charlie Theron-older lady types).

Blonde / Brunette, slim / athletic / fit mostly caucasian / european or latin. I'm not attracted to asian women.

What I look for: I am a PSE guy, after I achieve that, full GFE. Anal is preferred, but not required. BBBJ necessary and BBFS is what I go for.

Age: 18-30 for longer engagements, 25-35 when just need to nut, 35-40 easiest for quick release.

Summary:

I was fortunate that after my 2nd month I found a unicorn that was on SA for 1 week and fit my ideal woman (let's call her Saturn) for me 5'9' Blonde, Blue eyes, rock solid athletic body, normal with a great personality, incredible sex (more on this later).

But, was not going to settle down again. So I continued looking.

What I learned, it's numbers, confidence, and luck-the same as life. We absolutely have the upper hand. Most of the guys are extremely desperate and if you are solid in your game, presentable, confident, and don't come off like a freak, you will get far.

But, you need to keep your guard up until you feel comfortable with your gut. Follow your instinct.

I believe you need to transition them off the SA platform within the first 48 hrs of messaging. WhatsApp or text.

Once you have done that, determine if she would be a longer engagement or emergency release. You need both. Because, you will be in a city and a meeting will run over, last minute board call etc and your target may genuinely not be able to make it. That's when the emergency release comes into play.

Play your game accordingly. Vary it by the target, region, age etc. I never bring up numbers, unless they ask specifically. Then I throw it back to them-"I want you to be comfortable, because I think we vibe and blah blah".

Facetime / Videocall-no video, I don't go.

You set the place. So you feel in control. Then in person, decide quickly to play the rest of the game or forfeit.

Hope some of this helps those who are starting now.

What I will say is this: there are way more pros on the site right now, be very aware. It's ok if that's what your after.

Back to Saturn, I started to fly her wherever I was going, got very expensive (good thing for United's business class companion fare-helps if you are Global Services). She has never asked for any money at any time. But we were / are vibing hard. We have been to Europe many times now, Tokyo, Seoul, and a lot of cities in the US. She had told me she was in love so I went with it.

So we can became exclusive. She is currently moving across Canada to be closer to me in NYC at her cost.

But as we are all mongers, the force is to strong and continue to dabble here and there.

Good luck and be carefull.

[Steve 9696]

I am coaching this guy a bit and he has a trip coming and trying to plan what girl to see. I realized my advice to him might be useful to others. When I visit a city for several days this is my tried and true approach.

You're going to be chatting up a lot of hotties. And a few will emerge. And one will emerge as your favorite. You may be inclined to lock her up and focus on her and start talking about seeing her for several days. Don't do it. You have to sample the buffet before you fill your plate. So do this. Put your fave girl on day 1 and second fave on day 2 and third fave on day 3. Prob stop there. Now proceed with those dates and pick you fave and repeat with her days 4+. Now it can happen that you are smitten with day 1 girl. Ok you can cancel the others no harm no foul (work plans changes). But unless she's just your queen, proceed with dates 2 and three and come back to her.

This totally works and optimizes. Look you got to see hopefully three great girls and then pick the best! Don't lock in on one girl via chat. Create a small buffet and sample it. Then load up the plate.

If any of you remember my epic first Vegas trip girl 3 ended up being my fave. But I repeated with girls 1 and 3. And ended up long term with Girl 1 (Alexa) who I am going to see soon 3. 5 years after our first date.