Lisbon

[Harry1217]

Thank you for the reports on SA and Francisca Vilar. Great to hear that you had such a good trip.

Francisca Vilar has two sets of pictures on EP, as do some other girls (whilst others have different pictures across different websites). She looks more attractive on the top set of pictures, but from your report I suspect the bottom set is more representative.

Your report on SA has given me food for thought. I've considered it before, but always ended up opting for the convenience of booking escorts. I've also worried about the risks of meeting a complete stranger via SA I've seen scams and worse reported.

I agree that 250 for dinner and an overnight with a hot young lady, is good. The real value is when having overnights (for shorter bookings it's not such a discount to escort rates). Suspect that my reluctance for overnights may mean I don't do SA but you've got me thinking again!

Similar SA rates have been reported in places like Barcelona but a chap on another board who has used SA in various European countries, has reported that Lisbon is one of the best both for quality of girls and also rates. London has a bigger pool of ladies to choose from, as you'd expect, but a common overnight rate appears to be e500-600, and he reports that you have to scroll through more ladies in London to find the attractive ones.

I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.

Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.

I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.

In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.

Stirling.

[ExExpatriate]

Frankly, I would do the SA thing all the time, except my schedule / situation makes it pretty unpredictable if I'll have that kind of latitude.

I had a thing going with a semi-retired escort, who was very popular during her incall days. She dropped out during the Pandemic, but continued to do outcall with me. She was great company, a gorgeous woman just crossing 40. A typical rendezvous would be our bedroom side (2 to 3 hours, BB, I paid for 2 hours), followed by lunch and an afternoon stroll. All told, a 5 to 6 hour date.

The format suited me very well, ideal really. The thing is, she was a unicorn: we were both available only during the late morning and early afternoon. She threw herself at me during that window, once or twice per visit. Ah, I'll miss her for years to come.

But yes. I dabbled in SA, and found that some of the ladies acted as if they weren't in a truly excellent city for escorting. Some of the best incall ladies in Lisbon will do an overnight with you for several hundred euros, so anyone asking a thousand has GPS. Just stop and realize that EP charges 150/h, and while the roster is quite mixed, some of them are very good... and those girls are splitting with the agency!

I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.

Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.

I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.

In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.

Stirling.

[Mongerer88]

I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.

Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.

I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.

In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.

Stirling.

Thank you very much for the reviews. Francisca Vilar relocated to Lisbon from Porto, where she received relatively good reviews consistent with yours, including the availability of anal. Also good to hear that Seeking Arrangement works well in Lisbon.

https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-vilar/

[Stirling]

I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.

Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.

I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.

In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.

Stirling.

[ExExpatriate]

I don't know if your problem is one of math or of reading. But one of them it sure is.

I discovered the "ignore" function, and set some of our participants with problems to ignore. Seeing as how they know so much better than anyone else, they clearly don't need any help.

[Kama Leão]

Of course if you read 200 pages in the forum and finds. One good service girl. That does not make this country a good place for mongering.

I don't know if your problem is one of math or of reading. But one of them it sure is.

[IsaBahn]

The issue is that the vast majority of your experiences appear to be negative, spread across several different countries. That raises the question of whether it is the girls, or whether you should be doing this activity at all. From a quick browse of your reports, it appears you prefer a type of setting where there are lots of ladies to choose from, and you can relax and enjoy the atmosphere too (i.e. Vive madrid, FKK's etc).

Also you're going to wind people up when you've only seen a handful of ladies in Lisbon, and you advise people to stay away from the place, against a backdrop of plenty of positive reports on this forum.

I understand you're Spanish so I would be surprised if you didn't like your fellow Iberian country, unless of course you're not happy with your home country and perhaps the Iberian peninsula isn't the place for you.

I do have high standards.

I did had great experiences (Germany, Madrid, Kyiev, Rio, Bogota) with good reviews and reports.

Bottom line, if you try girls in random and get 1 good out of 10 in Lisbon. This is the rate I am going to give.

If you try random girls in Bogota / Germany and get 5 good or 7 good out of 10 this is the rate this country is given.

Of course if you read 200 pages in the forum and finds. One good service girl. That does not make this country a good place for mongering.

Go to Germany. You will enjoy more. Here is a 150/200 euro p / hour escort agency I had very good experiences (more than 5 times) with in Berlin escort77. Berlin. Sorry if I offended someone but truth had to be told and it is a good practice to report so others will know.

Fore me: Avoid Lisbon.

[Harry1217]

The issue is that the vast majority of your experiences appear to be negative, spread across several different countries. That raises the question of whether it is the girls, or whether you should be doing this activity at all. From a quick browse of your reports, it appears you prefer a type of setting where there are lots of ladies to choose from, and you can relax and enjoy the atmosphere too (i.e. Vive madrid, FKK's etc).

Also you're going to wind people up when you've only seen a handful of ladies in Lisbon, and you advise people to stay away from the place, against a backdrop of plenty of positive reports on this forum.

I understand you're Spanish so I would be surprised if you didn't like your fellow Iberian country, unless of course you're not happy with your home country and perhaps the Iberian peninsula isn't the place for you.

Hi,

Got some nice (and not so nice) responses to my Lisbon review. I would like to fine-tune it.

First of all, it is my recommendation and taste. I somehow couldn't connect to any of the girls vibe, communication and eventually sexual encounter (massage, or escort) and due to time constraint (and payment) I couldn't test ALL the ladies. Unfortunately MY experience was not good and I basically think that sexually mongering is better else where. Even Madrid with VIVE for example. But it is still just MY experience and trying to reflect it to others.

I would like to correct a few things from my previous trip to Lisbon last year. This time I had more time to travel around Portugal and got some good recommendations for restaurants. Portugal is a beautiful place, Sintra is amazing (and huge), the views are marvellous and sea food is delicious (especially in Cascais).

[IsaBahn]

Hi,

Got some nice (and not so nice) responses to my Lisbon review. I would like to fine-tune it.

First of all, it is my recommendation and taste. I somehow couldn't connect to any of the girls vibe, communication and eventually sexual encounter (massage, or escort) and due to time constraint (and payment) I couldn't test ALL the ladies. Unfortunately MY experience was not good and I basically think that sexually mongering is better else where. Even Madrid with VIVE for example. But it is still just MY experience and trying to reflect it to others.

I would like to correct a few things from my previous trip to Lisbon last year. This time I had more time to travel around Portugal and got some good recommendations for restaurants. Portugal is a beautiful place, Sintra is amazing (and huge), the views are marvellous and sea food is delicious (especially in Cascais).

[ExExpatriate]

I suppose we should ALL be grateful when an angry thumb scores only known poor performers. Serving such a person must be unpleasant. I wouldn't wish that on the ladies I like or wish to call upon in the future. Even from a practical point of view -- bad experiences contribute to burn out.

[Harry1217]

Good points. I find it hard to believe that a person wouldn't find in Lisbon the type of service they are looking for. It's not as if Lisbon ladies are highly conservative or not up for certain things. After all, whether it's a FKK (e.g.) or not, ultimately you're having sex with a lady. Perhaps I'm viewing it too simplistically.

The accuracy of the advertising in Lisbon could be better, as you say. I was specifically looking for a bit of fetish fun, and contacted a couple of other ladies who had BDSM listed, as back-up in case Joana wasn't available. However, when I mentioned it to them, they said they didn't provide it (for example, Sofia Sampaio). More care should be taken to ensure the lady does provide the services listed.

Harry1217, Thank you for the Joanna review. I wish I had been able to see her, but such is life with EP, even when you try to book in advance. And thanks for the groundbreaking Ana Lucia review.

If you take the time to read Avivis's reviews, they are about 85 to 90 percent negative experiences, and if I recall correctly he prefers CBJ instead of BBBJ.

I doubt that there are any other board participants exactly like him. If there are, tgey would be advised to stay away from Lisbon. And perhaps this activity entirely if a person is displeased 85 to 90 percent of the time.

While it isn't as bad as with him, it happens a lot in the forums. A guy who enjoys FKKs who writes for 10 pages trying to find a German FKK in Spain or Portugal ends up disappointed when the experience isn't like a German FKK even when told that no FKKs exist in Spain or Portugal.

I believe I remember that Avivis also dislikes Portuguese food and other customs. Personally, I like the food and the hour or hour and a half of GFE in the room.

Are criticisms valid? Of course. Portugal really doesn't have a BDSM scene, unlike London which obviously does (with dims, switches and subs). But a not insignificant portion of London full-service BDSM providers are CBJ only, which honestly ruins the session for me. When it comes to valid criticisms, Sarah Valente's ad sometimes appears on the BDSM section of Apartadox. It shouldn't, since she doesn't seem to actually do that. Same with anal. EP should quit teasing on items where the ladies rarely deliver. Joanna's review on the Britain site says she does some mild submissive BDSM when comfortable with the customer. Same with Marcela Moniz, who is also anal friendly.

The best way to get the information is to read the reviews. And Lisbon is a soft-pedal place. It is probably best to ask about fetish activities about half-way through the session if the lady seems to feel comfortable with you, and be ready for it to be nicely rejected. That is how I had a tremendous session with EP's long-departed Ana Castro. Portugal sessions are pretty GFE standard, including BBBJ, as can be gleaned from most of the pages. Not sure really what Avivis is looking for in a perfect session, but Portugal doesn't do it for him.

But for the 98 percent of posters who have almost all great sessions in Portugal, so do not say Stay Away, we say, You Should Try Portugal. But as with food, learn to appreciate what is offered in the local culture, not what you want from another culture, or from your imagined hopes and dreams.

Are there ladies to avoid? Of course. EP's Fabiana Lopes just got a dismal review from an experienced reviewer on the local board. But plenty of recommended ladies to see, also.

[Kama Leão]

What I'll do is. Advise people to stay away from ignorant reporting.

Exactly! With so many useful posts and "field reports", you can only go wrong if you choose to ignore them.

[ExExpatriate]

What I'll do is. Advise people to stay away from ignorant reporting.

If you had bothered to either do your own homework or simply ASK, you would have discovered Ariana Pilar has a low rating (and that despite her being Carolina's duo partner). Also, I think it's been years since anyone had anything positive to say about Tantric Moments anywhere, and they've always been an HJ-only place.

Your story screams that you went about things all the wrong way. I post about Cascais regularly, and have a great time in most cases.

This reads like a Kevin's Yelp review. Lisbon rocks. It has its own culture, but so does everywhere else. I don't get why people rave about German brothels, but you don't see me posting on German forums that they suck.

Hi guys,

As usual I report from another city around the world. See my other reports, from Kiev to Rio via Bogota and more.

Lisbon, is a city to avoid. 90% bad experiences for me, maybe a few mediocre. I had one good experience with Caroline Belmont but she stopped working unfortunately.

Went to a massage called Tantric Moments: https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/ - got in with a smiling Brazilian with huge fake boobs. Got a very low quality massage with handjob at the end. No pussy touching. No kissing. 180 euro for one hour. Waste of money. I tried to check what is happening in other massage parlours. Got in, usually only two girls on the shift, not something thrilling, so I decided to pass and go back to the hotel.

I tried to book some girls from apartadox, most of them wanted 150 euro per hour, but since my hotel was in Cascais they wanted extra 30 euro to get here. I said I will book the Uber, but no, they wanted me to charge up their phone or pass the money upfront through a different shadey way. Now this for me is a very RED flag so I decided not to book any of them. Eventually I found a girl that was chatty on the phone and agreed for me to call her an Uber.

So I booked the girl called Ariana Pilar https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...ana-pilar-6673 and it was a disappointment:

1. The good things: She arrived on time. She charged 150 euro for hour. She is not ugly but not good looking either.

2. Bad things: She is not the girl from the photos. She have darker skin. Dirty colour blonde hair.

3. She was very boring in bed. Not terrible just again, boring.

4. We took a shower, had vanilla quiet sex and she left.

I sometimes pay 800 euros for an hour for BDSM girls in Berlin. I can pay a lot. I can pay a bit (in Colombia) but I expect value per money. This was not it. Even the Brazilian girls which in Brazil are so much fun transform to be boring in Lisbon. Go figures.

I have yet to find something worth it in Lisbon. Stay away.

Aviv.

[Mongerer88]

Harry1217, Thank you for the Joanna review. I wish I had been able to see her, but such is life with EP, even when you try to book in advance. And thanks for the groundbreaking Ana Lucia review.

If you take the time to read Avivis's reviews, they are about 85 to 90 percent negative experiences, and if I recall correctly he prefers CBJ instead of BBBJ.

I doubt that there are any other board participants exactly like him. If there are, tgey would be advised to stay away from Lisbon. And perhaps this activity entirely if a person is displeased 85 to 90 percent of the time.

While it isn't as bad as with him, it happens a lot in the forums. A guy who enjoys FKKs who writes for 10 pages trying to find a German FKK in Spain or Portugal ends up disappointed when the experience isn't like a German FKK even when told that no FKKs exist in Spain or Portugal.

I believe I remember that Avivis also dislikes Portuguese food and other customs. Personally, I like the food and the hour or hour and a half of GFE in the room.

Are criticisms valid? Of course. Portugal really doesn't have a BDSM scene, unlike London which obviously does (with dims, switches and subs). But a not insignificant portion of London full-service BDSM providers are CBJ only, which honestly ruins the session for me. When it comes to valid criticisms, Sarah Valente's ad sometimes appears on the BDSM section of Apartadox. It shouldn't, since she doesn't seem to actually do that. Same with anal. EP should quit teasing on items where the ladies rarely deliver. Joanna's review on the Britain site says she does some mild submissive BDSM when comfortable with the customer. Same with Marcela Moniz, who is also anal friendly.

The best way to get the information is to read the reviews. And Lisbon is a soft-pedal place. It is probably best to ask about fetish activities about half-way through the session if the lady seems to feel comfortable with you, and be ready for it to be nicely rejected. That is how I had a tremendous session with EP's long-departed Ana Castro. Portugal sessions are pretty GFE standard, including BBBJ, as can be gleaned from most of the pages. Not sure really what Avivis is looking for in a perfect session, but Portugal doesn't do it for him.

But for the 98 percent of posters who have almost all great sessions in Portugal, so do not say Stay Away, we say, You Should Try Portugal. But as with food, learn to appreciate what is offered in the local culture, not what you want from another culture, or from your imagined hopes and dreams.

Are there ladies to avoid? Of course. EP's Fabiana Lopes just got a dismal review from an experienced reviewer on the local board. But plenty of recommended ladies to see, also.

There are so many well reviewed girls on the tens of pages here that it is a bit harsh to advise people to stay away from Lisbon.

One thing that is indisputable is that Lisbon, like many other cities around the world, has been on a slow decline for many years. By all accounts, the best times were actually when the internet was in its infancy. But there are still good experiences to be had, if you follow the recommendations in this forum.

It's also not fair to compare to a South American country like Brazil, which is a few thousand miles away and has all manner of other considerations. But i agree it would be strange if you plonked a girl from Brazil to Lisbon and her service went downhill, given she would be earning more in Lisbon! I can tell you that Lisbon trumps other European Cities such as London and Amsterdam, in my opinion.

Obviously, even well reviewed girls may not deliver or may not turn out to be what you wanted.

Massage can indeed be very frustrating when there is no kissing and even touching is restricted. I actually popped in to Tantric Moments last year, and I had 3 or 4 ladies introduce themselves, but just didn't get a good feel. And the 180 price also put me off (bearing in mind full service at your hotel can be had for 150). I did get a very good sensual massage at Genuine Tantric (but no kissing and limited touching).

[Harry1217]

There are so many well reviewed girls on the tens of pages here that it is a bit harsh to advise people to stay away from Lisbon.

One thing that is indisputable is that Lisbon, like many other cities around the world, has been on a slow decline for many years. By all accounts, the best times were actually when the internet was in its infancy. But there are still good experiences to be had, if you follow the recommendations in this forum.

It's also not fair to compare to a South American country like Brazil, which is a few thousand miles away and has all manner of other considerations. But i agree it would be strange if you plonked a girl from Brazil to Lisbon and her service went downhill, given she would be earning more in Lisbon! I can tell you that Lisbon trumps other European Cities such as London and Amsterdam, in my opinion.

Obviously, even well reviewed girls may not deliver or may not turn out to be what you wanted.

Massage can indeed be very frustrating when there is no kissing and even touching is restricted. I actually popped in to Tantric Moments last year, and I had 3 or 4 ladies introduce themselves, but just didn't get a good feel. And the 180 price also put me off (bearing in mind full service at your hotel can be had for 150). I did get a very good sensual massage at Genuine Tantric (but no kissing and limited touching).

Hi guys,

As usual I report from another city around the world. See my other reports, from Kiev to Rio via Bogota and more.

Lisbon, is a city to avoid. 90% bad experiences for me, maybe a few mediocre. I had one good experience with Caroline Belmont but she stopped working unfortunately.

Went to a massage called Tantric Moments: https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/ - got in with a smiling Brazilian with huge fake boobs. Got a very low quality massage with handjob at the end. No pussy touching. No kissing. 180 euro for one hour. Waste of money. I tried to check what is happening in other massage parlours. Got in, usually only two girls on the shift, not something thrilling, so I decided to pass and go back to the hotel.

I tried to book some girls from apartadox, most of them wanted 150 euro per hour, but since my hotel was in Cascais they wanted extra 30 euro to get here. I said I will book the Uber, but no, they wanted me to charge up their phone or pass the money upfront through a different shadey way. Now this for me is a very RED flag so I decided not to book any of them. Eventually I found a girl that was chatty on the phone and agreed for me to call her an Uber.

So I booked the girl called Ariana Pilar https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...ana-pilar-6673 and it was a disappointment:

1. The good things: She arrived on time. She charged 150 euro for hour. She is not ugly but not good looking either.

2. Bad things: She is not the girl from the photos. She have darker skin. Dirty colour blonde hair.

3. She was very boring in bed. Not terrible just again, boring.

4. We took a shower, had vanilla quiet sex and she left.

I sometimes pay 800 euros for an hour for BDSM girls in Berlin. I can pay a lot. I can pay a bit (in Colombia) but I expect value per money. This was not it. Even the Brazilian girls which in Brazil are so much fun transform to be boring in Lisbon. Go figures.

I have yet to find something worth it in Lisbon. Stay away.

Aviv.