Medellin Reports

[Turgid]

All the endless posts about paying after in almost every location in the world are crazy wrong. You are the brilliant one. Carryon paying first. If you want the very best service that will simply make your head spin. Pay her before you even leave the bar, disco, or restaurant where you found her. That will build killer trust!

When you meet a girl in an establishment it seems best to confirm that payment would be made after rapture before you leave the place arm in arm.

[Knowledge]

I think your two-month pricing experience has more to do with you than it does with the market. I don't know you but I've spent a bit more than two months at a time in the area.

I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.

The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance..

[LoveItHere]

So based on your estimate, are your saying that 5% of the gringos will drive the pricing so high in Centro for both locals and gringos, that the majority of the Centro girls will jump to Poblado.

The customers who pull in Pobaldo are not going to go with the majority of girls of work Centro as they not very desirable.

The "jump" of girls from Centro to Poblado has been taking place for several months now, and the quality is not all that great, and I doubt it can become any more saturated, especially with more fat and ugly girls from Centro.

Also, based on the majority of the clients being locals in Centro, my prediction is pricing won't change much in Centro except for inflation.

And also something you may not be aware of, but the locals do control pricing to a certain degree in Centro.

If you spend much time in Centro and observe how the locals interact with the girls, a lot of times a local will go up to a girl, and then after a short period of time will walk away.

Typically what has happened is that the local made a "offer" below what the SW wanted which typically a lot of the locals do with the SW's.

So the SW's are cognizant of how sensitive pricing can be, and if they all tried to ask for too much would have little to no business.

So the notion that there is going to be a mass exodus of the Centro girls to Poblado in the future is hard to imagine.

And as far as local and gringo pricing, believe it or not, there are gringos here that can and do get "local pricing" in Centro, but they have Spanish speaking skills.

I always wanted to come back and correct all your errors on your post. But as soon as I start I have to stop. I just do not have that kind of time. So so much is wrong. You really have no idea what is happening right in front of your eyes. You take few girls and keep taking the same ones. I am a one and done type of guy so I am taking more girls and a larger variety of girls and am far more in touch with girls' asking prices, hotels, etc.

The girls keep asking for more and more money. I have had several ask for more money in the 2 months I have been in Centro taking the same girl. Met a blonde girl at the yellow corner restaurant asking 60,000 COP now. So the Colombians are causing this? No. It is because there are more and more 2 week millionaires. Paying Colombian prices is nothing on a 2 week trip. In the near future the Centro girls will only need ten 2 week millionaires per week to make the same as 30 locals and thus not need the Colombians except for emergency money. The majority or not moving their bodies and making their money in Poblado. They have a different method. Not brilliant. Just different. You have not figured this out. I know because you would have announced it to everyone trying to show your brilliance.

In 5 years Centro will be dead. I never meant all the girls will be gone in the post you are talking about. All that needs to happen in the top 20%. I know that once the top 20% are gone then nearly all the foreigners will also be gone. Fact is the quality in the clubs, spas / casas, and street are all down. Read the posts from the last year from all the different venues for getting girls. All the guys have the same comments about each and every venue. Nowhere has gotten better and nowhere has stayed the same. Centro has dropped 5% in numbers and quality. Another 5% in the next 1. 5 years and I will not be returning myself. Once the change happens it will accelerate. Everyone is talking about it. Even travel articles talking about the jump in tourism numbers to Colombia.

I wish you knew all that you think you do. Your talking about locals walking up to street girls and walking away telling me it is because the girls ask too much. Wow, a one hour old newbie can figure that out. But there are many reasons. He asked for kinky stuff and she said no. He got her Whatsapp to make a later date. He is a regular and just saying Hi and he will meet her tomorrow. She is used to gringo prices where she receives 10,000+ COP more. The guys do not control the prices. The girls do. The girls are especially learning this with the 2 week millionaires who have limited time and a large budget. The girls are learning quickly how to prioritize. 2 week millionaires are first, local gringos second, and then the local Colombians. Saw the same thing in the Philippines. There it was Koreans first and the rest of the foreigners second.

You are unable to connect the dots because you do not even see them all. I only gave a very small handful and I have only been here for 2 months and have been gone for 2 years.

[LoveItHere]

Went to Zandalay Saturday 3:45.9 girls. None were worth a crap. That place is stupid. I walk in. 3 guys and 4 girls at the bar drinking and talking. I buy a drink and sit down at the bench seat alone. 5 minutes later another guy comes in and sits alone across from me at another bench seat. I wait another 10 minutes. During that time a group of 3 guys come up the stairs, look around, and quickly leave. The people working there are too damn stupid to tell the 3 guys to sit down and they will bring out the rest of the girls. The people working there seem to think it is a bar and not a brothel. I have to ask the worker there to show me the girls. The girls introduce themselves and I pay and leave. Coke cost me 6000 COP there versus 3000 COP at the much better New Life.

New Life same day at 4:15. Around 20 girls. Did a pretty one with a pleasing personality. Will hopefully get the other one I wanted on Monday.

FYI New Life Halloween Party October 28th on Saturday.

First time to either one of those in 2. 5 years. Quality down. Talked to a Colombian guy as we walked out who was raised in the USA he said the same thing. He mentioned how 10 years ago the girls were super hot back then.

No pregnant girls at Botero (FYI for those fetish guys to save you a trip). 4 girls now with boob jobs at Centro. Not huge jobs because they had little to start with. I know because I had sex with 3 of them. The 4th one I was not into 2 years ago when I first saw her. She was small last month but suddenly her body shape grabbed my attention. I checked out her body and then her face and realized who she was. Still not interested because one of her friends who also had a boob job was so bad I did not cum.

Getting bored of Centro in just 2. 5 months. Too many repeats. Not enough new girls. With the rainy season now it is boring the crap out of me and the rain has only been here for less than 2 weeks. Will move to Laureles for a week or two and try some spas and online girls. Pray for me.

[Sangnyc21]

I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

Here's tonight's takeaway.

Follow your instincts and judgment.

Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.

If a girl acts dumb then I tell them call the damn cops. And I explain the situation and give the cops money so that the girl gets nothing. It's a loss either way.

At least if I give it to the cops they won't share with the girl. If I don't then the cops might take the girls side and make me pay the girl and she'll split it with them anyway.

ID at least fuck her in another way and she won't be going to bed happy either. LOL.

[LoveItHere]

Maybe paying afterwards is the way. And that's what usually happens when the girl has been there for the second time. She knows the deal and she can trust me but I feel like if I don't pay before the service is going to be bad or they are going to want to rush. Idk. You guys are argue the opposite. Maybe you're right.

All the endless posts about paying after in almost every location in the world are crazy wrong. You are the brilliant one. Carryon paying first. If you want the very best service that will simply make your head spin. Pay her before you even leave the bar, disco, or restaurant where you found her. That will build killer trust!

[Sangnyc21]

Like I said they're playing lotto.

They find one or two guys who pay that.

[Haxagonus]

Hoeflation: the idea that we in our generation have to put in twice the work and pay twice as much for a girl half as good as our grandfathers did.

I messaged a girl in mileroticos on August while I was in Bogota. She's In Medellin and tells me it's 300 k for the hour. I get to Medellin in October and she's like it's 450 k. Messaged her from a Colombian number. It's still 450.

Hoeflation. She's like 7. 5 -8. And she doesn’t do natural oral anymore. Wouldn’t want that anyways. Saw her sucking some tranny guy on camera

[Sangnyc21]

I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.

Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.

Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.

Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).

What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.

I haven't used seeking.com on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.

I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?

It's all pros. They all pretend they are high class and not a full time prepago. It's all BS.

I have seen a lot of fb and tinder girls on seeking.

Girls on seeking really play lotto. Trying for 3-500 usd and a free expensive meal. This is the hustle.

[BigFree]

I read once that a guy here shows them the money but doesn't pay but pays after to show hey I have the money but I'm paying you after.

I have another way to deal with this. If she 'insists' on being paid up front (and you don't like the chances of that working out) OR is changing the agreement and you just want her gone, you do this.

Pretend to go look for the money she wants, then pretend that you don't have enough or any at all (your choice). Tell her that you really thought you had the cash, but that you must have lost it or got pick pocketed, or some other excuse. Tell her she can follow you to an ATM to get the cash. You must do this with a very friendly and believable face. Tell her that you can understand why she'd want money up front, that you too have heard of men who try to cheat girls.

Once you are outside the Hotel / Room, give her taxi money ONLY and say 'adios chica'.

[Haxagonus]

You are the only monger in history who has said "I always pay up front".

Crazy lmao. Ok will say that yes. There have been times where I have paid up front and got bad service. Once from a girl who used to do lleras for 250 k then moved to gustos recently and now charges at least 150 usd. I gave her 400 thinking I was being nice because I know her from before she did gustos. She took the money and refused to do another until I have her 50 usd more. I was like gtfo. Did try to take the money back because I don't want problems / it's too much of. A Hassle. The other time was a entro girl I met at lleras. Payed her when we got to my place in hindsight she was ugly af. She started begging for beers and I bought them for her. She wouldn't listen when I would tell her what to do. Wanted to do it her own way. I'm like just gtfo lmao.

Maybe paying afterwards is the way. And that's what usually happens when the girl has been there for the second time. She knows the deal and she can trust me but I feel like if I don't pay before the service is going to be bad or they are going to want to rush. Idk. You guys are argue the opposite. Maybe you're right.

I read once that a guy here shows them the money but doesn't pay but pays after to show hey I have the money but I'm paying you after.

[Haxagonus]

I get lazy sometime and don't want to go out and find girls at gusto or other clubs.

Tinder has been good to me when I initially came, but the last week it was getting really slow.

Last night I decided to purchase tinder platinum and I got 26 new matches overnight.

Two of them are 9's and I'm looking forward knocking them down (they are pros for sure).

What I like about dating apps, is that you can find both a real GF and you can pay others if you like.

I haven't used seeking.com on here, but I saw that there are a crazy amount of girls on there.

I feel like they are overpriced there, does anyone have experience on seeking in Medellin?

Seeking doesn't want to take my credit card.

I tried this tinder thing. With platinum. Didn't get any matches. Maybe I'll wait a day.

I did see a few cams girls.

I know on that. These are cam girls that didn't want to give me their contact info so we could meet up. I also saw a few girls from seeking on tinder.

I probably don't get any matches because these girls don't think I'm foreigner. I look Hispanic.

Tried looking for a girls on mileroticos. None of the girls are replying. It's seems like they treat this as a job. Monday to Friday 10 to 6 pm. No overtime.

[Surfer500]

It isn't always going to be a problem. In my experience more often than not the best case scenario after you pay up front is a subpar session, and it goes downhill from there. There are too many other options to take the risk in my opinion. Sometimes I will tell a girl that she offended me by asking. That's helped put them on defensive and sometimes accept my terms. If they don't then I just move on. I don't have first time encounters in my home. A couple of the short time joints in Centro are like second homes to me so I guess they count as exceptions.

In very simple terms, any one who pays upfront loses all their leverage with a Chica, and some of the more devious Chicas will renege on what was agreed to and even request additional monies to include what was originally agreed to after being paid.

And for many of the newbie mongers here with little to no experience in Colombia, and little to no Spanish speaking skills, they can get taken, especially when a Chica threatens to call the Police as than typically the monger becomes frightened.

There's just to many pitfalls in paying upfront, and I made this mistake around ten years ago when I was in Santa Fe in Bogota, my time was limited, and for whatever reason I made the mistake of paying upfront for a Chica, and I got burned.

The girl was nice enough and everything was fine in the room until I noticed lots of blood on the condom.

You talk about a boner killer, upon the sight of the blood I immediately ended the session, and the girl told me it was normal for her to work during her period.

And she was very blatant about it, not even trying to play dumb like she didn't know she was on her period which is typically what is said when Chicas pull this stunt.

So this is just one example of the risks in paying upfront.

As far as mongering in Centro, I can't ever remember a Chica asking me to pay her upfront, but we are talking chump change of typically $ 10 USD there and even less. LOL.

However, I do remember one incident in Centro where I agreed to 30 K with a Chica, and when we got into the room she said she wanted 40 K.

So I got up and said goodbye while she begged me to stay saying that she would accept what was originally agreed to.

So she made nothing, and I was out the cost of the room which is chump change and avoided what would not of been a good session after the drama.

I think everyone here would agree that avoiding a "bad session" is paramount.

So if I think a bad session may be in the works when I'm with a Chica, I end the session and move on.

[TjBrazil]

I am back in Medellin but this time I am with a few friends who have never been. These guys wanted to go to gustos and against my better judgment I decided to take them. I tried to tell them don't negotiate in dollars but they all hooked up for 125-150 USD for what I think were 7 and 8's. One of the stragglers came and sat next to me, eventually a convo re prices began, she wanted 250 USD, immediately I said fuck no and to be honest her face was a 7 at best but really nice body. After a few drinks we decided on 125 USD still much more I was willing to pay but I made a deal and reluctantly decided to honor it. We made it to the apartment, she stripped down to her panties but her face was even worse now with the lights on. She demanded money first, FUCK NO. Now she becomes agitated and threatens to call the police and eventually does. I of course call building security and told them to get the puta out of my apt, she refuses to leave, police arrive, building security talks to them and they leave without issue. She demands 40 USD to leave and I give it to the security guy who escorts her out of the apt.

I decided to give the security guy the 125 bucks I was supposed the pay the girl, told him to get something nice for his wife. 125+40=165 USD and NO ASS

It's 5 am in Medellin and I am pissed but I am good. One of my homegirls will get here at 2 pm and she will take care of me for much less with no hassle (and she fine AF).

I don't only report wins, last time I got a girl out of Gustos, I paid her 125K PESOS I think due to some miscommunication. Tonight was a loss but there's tom, win some lose some.

Here's tonight's takeaway.

Follow your instincts and judgment.

Take care of building staff (security and waitress, cleaning crew).

Never argue with a Chica if the cost to resolve is minimal, in this case she wanted 40 bucks to go away = I paid it.

Gustos is a shit show. What are you doing there. It's a zombie apocalypse.

[80BigBear]

I wanted to briefly add this in hopes that it might help. Been to Colombia many times. I hate Cartagena due to the heat. Bogota is like a western city. Medellin however, wow how beautiful she is.

If you are looking to meet people, facebook is the best way. Just do a search of random people in medellin or Antiquola (spelling), and just message and friend people. I used to have a FB, and pretty much once you make one friend, they all start messaging you. This is the safest manner.

Club gusto sucks. Parque lleras is cool, but there is better spots. The mansion hotel is a good beginner spot from what I heard. Never went since I was connecting with people on Facebook.

One thing however, be careful with drugs. Its really popular down there, and really cheap. I haven't went back in 18 months. Last thing that kinda worried me was a guy from Southern CA getting drugged and killed by a chick he met on tinder. To everyone on this sub, Colombia is a poor country. So be mindful. Someone once gave me a few basic rules.

1. Be mindful. In Colombia, people will kill you for $50-$100 USD.

2. don't look at anyone wrong. You never know if that nerd is the nephew of the cartel boss.

3. Be aware of your surroundings.

4. Cops are crooks here. Don't carry shit with you since I have had many times cops stop me and pat me down.

I usually stayed in Poblado, at a nice airbnb. When booking an airbnb, contact the peopele via Airbnb and find their company on google. You can usually save up to 30% by not going through airbnb and instead booking through their company page.

Anyways, that's it for now. I have so much to share but am a little disorganized with my thoughts. If you're going to medellin, enjoy! Its a fucking beautiful place. Imagine a city in a jungle bowl. And the women, wow are they beautiful. I mean The Paisas, women from Medellin, they are a mix between european and latin. Light complexion, beautiful.

Hope to share more soon! For now, I got to start gettting ready for my Thailand trip!