Angeles City

[FuriousGeorge]

I was there last year during that week, and yes it was slower, but still plenty of girls, And the NYE party at Aqua was pretty epic. But. I was there for a few weeks so I didn't mind the slower week. I'll be there again this year. But if that's the only week you have, maybe skip. I will say the weather last year was fantastic, for me at least. Overcast almost every day but barely rained in weeks. I like to walk around and I wasn't getting destroyed by the beating sun and sweating my ass off constantly.

The week between Christmas and NY ranks second behind Holy Week as the worst time to monger in the Philippines. There will still be girls in town but numbers will be down. Generally speaking, it's the hotties who have the cash to afford the fare back home so those remaining can be very average.

Oh, and to top it off, the weather can suck at that time too.

Sorry to rain in your parade. G.

[Goferring]

Hey Peeps, Just curious if the visit during the week before Christmas and / or New Year will be eventful in Angeles city? Knowing they are pro Christians wondering if there will be bars, girls and pubs open and happening on these days?

Thanks and Cheers.

The week between Christmas and NY ranks second behind Holy Week as the worst time to monger in the Philippines. There will still be girls in town but numbers will be down. Generally speaking, it's the hotties who have the cash to afford the fare back home so those remaining can be very average.

Oh, and to top it off, the weather can suck at that time too.

Sorry to rain in your parade. G.

[Jarango]

I don't like to overpay the trike drivers because they don't suck my penis. LOL!

No need to suck their dicks unless you like to stand in line. I ask local women what are the rates. I have never seen hookers argue with trike drivers as both know the rate. I have seen the blind massage therapists troop in for their trike home. All flat rates.

As for all the 101 economics, drop the price and business goes up. Rates are more or less fixed and foreigners unhappy with it should walk. We are talking about a trike ride, buttons, not Donald Trump's The Art of the Deal.

[WestCoast1]

Only 50 pesos? That will not pay for her trike. I believe the minimum the trike drivers will accept in the Angeles area is 100 pesos (maybe 80).

Yes p50. That was pre-covid and I should have mentioned that. Not that it makes much difference, as the standard tryke ride was p100 at that time also. However locals paid (at the time) less. Besides one-off gogo girls, I ended up 'going around' or dating mamas, and shop girls. More than once as we approached a tryke, the girl would say to me something like: "Don't talk to the driver. I will do it". As the driver dropped us at our destination, when he would normally charge me alone p100 (the going rate), the girl would hand him p60 (or other, less than 100). Drivers rarely balked, but had I been on my own they would have insisted on 100. That was then. Several gogo girls told me that they had a driver on-call whom they paid a weekly rate to so that they didn't have to shell out each time. Ah, the good-old / bad-old days.

I mentioned the low tip for a different reason: Never did a gogo girl not go with me a second time. Nor did any of their bar-mates balk at going with me. Had I given them nothing, I imagine that nothing would have changed in this respect. Had I given them p500, I imagine that nothing would have changed in this respect.

[GreenBud]

I don't agree but then I talk to them. I argue down and then give the saved amount and sometimes more in a tip. I think it funny guys think nothing of giving an overpriced starfish hooker a lavish tip and bergudge a trike driver, most of whom are not so young, something. Same goes for chick out chicks and others making an hones living. Hookers know the local rates and pay them.

Ya. You're right. I did slander them.

You probably can negotiate down to the normal overpriced rate if they initially tried to gouge you. But I doubt you can negotiate anything close to the normal rate that people pay outside of Angeles. The trike drivers overcharge everyone. The Angeles trike drivers charge more than the Grab cars.

If the trike drivers would only understand the AT&T example. IMO, if they would charge half the price, they would increase there business by 3 or 4 times, or more. They would make more money.

I don't like to overpay the trike drivers because they don't suck my penis. LOL!

[Jarango]

One thing that everyone here will agree is that the trike mafia drivers are rip-off MFers. Those MFers will rip off everyone, including the locals. I was told the locals pay the same. I could see them overcharging the girls, but they will also overcharge / rip-off the poorly paid hotel clerks.

I don't agree but then I talk to them. I argue down and then give the saved amount and sometimes more in a tip. I think it funny guys think nothing of giving an overpriced starfish hooker a lavish tip and bergudge a trike driver, most of whom are not so young, something. Same goes for chick out chicks and others making an hones living. Hookers know the local rates and pay them.

I.

[GreenBud]

There have been disagreements on the Board in years past regarding whether you should tip an AC girl or not.

An interesting argument for the pro-tip crowd was: If you don't tip the girl, she will remember you and report you as a cheap-charlie in her bar, thus limiting your access later.

That might only matter with the girls who are popular, the girls who can be barfined every single day. One also has to take into account that the girl might exaggerate the tip amounts in order to elicit higher tips from the current customer. I always tip (since 2004 when it really wasn't necessary; I have a weak spot for girls that suck my penis). I have a regular that can be barfined every single night. When she is informed that I will be barfining her later in the night, she will decline barfine offers from other customers (but she will accept lady drinks).

The opposite argument was also made by some gents: "I never tip, and never had any trouble getting the same hottie to re-barfine with me, nor her workmates".

I would guess that is correct for most girls who are barfined 3 or less times per week. I am guessing that applies to more than half the girls in Angeles.

I always tipped the then-current girlie tryke amount home of: Fifty pesos.

Only 50 pesos? That will not pay for her trike. I believe the minimum the trike drivers will accept in the Angeles area is 100 pesos (maybe 80).

One thing that everyone here will agree is that the trike mafia drivers are rip-off MFers. Those MFers will rip off everyone, including the locals. I was told the locals pay the same. I could see them overcharging the girls, but they will also overcharge / rip-off the poorly paid hotel clerks.

Use Grab (car). Prices are similar compared to the prices from the trike mafia. I've been paying my regular girl's ride home on Grab. It cost around 145 pesos. Those trike drivers will charge her 150.

[JasonBen84]

Hey Peeps, Just curious if the visit during the week before Christmas and / or New Year will be eventful in Angeles city? Knowing they are pro Christians wondering if there will be bars, girls and pubs open and happening on these days?

Thanks and Cheers.

[Dg8787]

Thanks for your offer of drinks but in truth we have nothing to discuss at all, in truth we would probably fall out within 2 seconds flat, of course enjoy your trip.

Yes, truth would fall out in 2 seconds flat if that. It already has.

As usual I do enjoy my trips here.

[Goferring]

The Ultimate BarGirl Patsy Tier List

You left off two other groups:

Rich and famous pinoys. Like the American Chad's, don't need to go to the average Angeles flesh pit. Prefers to make use of up and coming starlets or singers. Bodyguards and minders can often be seen carrying snow shovels for clearing path through lower class pussy.

The ubiquitous trike driver or general methhead about town. A firm favourite of the poor girls from Tondo to return to after sucking flaccid dicks all day. Everyone enjoys returning to a familiar port.

Enjoy. G.

[Member #4794]

Handsome Americans. This is rare to be honest but still reigns supreme. Talking Chris Hemsworth level. This is and will probably remain working girls dream for the unforeseeable future. These guys usually stay in the bars in BGC and head straight to Amanpulo in Cuyo, Palawan and never set foot into your normal "mongering venue". They just don't need to.

Handsome Asians 'Korean or Japanese' - We are talking about guys that look like "ENHYPEN" that just performed in Manila or Japanese Yakuza jr or lite versions that come over with the hosto bar employers back in Japan for a fun foray in AC / Manila this still happens on occasion but used to be much more popular.

Koreans ANY. The race dijour ATM, you have girls here that are dating koreans and want to date koreans who may currently reside in or are thinking about moving to the philippines this is more about the practicality of being in this scene and potentially lining up longer term more stable clientele.

"White" Americans. Same ol' ticket to the land of the free, same ol' quality of life upgrade, same ol' green backs.

"White" people from anywhere else still prefered. If you walk into a Korean bar and the korean staff bows or tilts their head down its a show of respect that you may have not picked up on and your non reciperication of this que may result in a misccomunication. Koreans also have a very strict hierarchy when it comes to age and status among other koreans. So what you perceive as preferential treatment to them is nothing more than following social norms that carry over from Korea and this system does not apply to foreigners. I don't see this as discrimination as much as everyone who is not korean are labeled as civilians in korean establishments.

Japanese. I would say 10 years ago this was the preferable race due to their agreeable temperaments but they have been going elsewhere for the most part the past few years and is continually dwindling as their rarity increases so does the demand.

Asian "Other" - Any other kind of asian is next on this list. This group is generally unremarkable. They are able to navigate these bars and are veritable unremarkable ninjas barfining girls and disappearing into the hotels. Rarely sought out over but rarely turned down as well.

"Black" American. These are actually growing in their acceptance once shunned by philipinas now welcomed among certain circles now the top pick of some working girls due to their generosity and penchant for spoiling the ladies. I have heard in at least the one barangay with 10-15 AC working girls on hold the "black" americans top the list for "support" payments.

Latin. Girls seem to be neutral on this particular race unless you happen to be spanish which is also rare.

South Asian. If you happen to be this I am sorry but this is the one instance where you may run into some blatant racism. This is self evident if you sit at the bar in kokomos and watch south asian after south asian getting turned down. The girls will always recommend a girl that is willing to go with a south asian but they certainly do not get the pick of the litter imo. If you are a good looking south asian I would say you also have no problems but if you are on the "native" side goodluck. Part of this stereotype originates from the provinces where South asian money lenders are common place. This may also spring from South Asians unwillingness to be taken advantage of, being harder to manipulate is not something a hooker looks for in a customer.

Does this really matter? IMO absolutely not. The 1-2 girls per bar that is holding out for a better deal is not going to affect you in any real sense.

Another common misconception you may or may not have about Kbars is that some of these girls are looking to replicate something their "housemates" have done and care to run in similar social circles. These girls will say they prefer korean guys and they are attracted to the burgeoning korean centric lifestyle that AC has to offer and want to be apart of that and a "foreigner" may or may not be willing to frequent and run in the same social circles and venues as a korean customer will be willing to. They are in a Kbar to catch a Kfish and you just don't happen to be the fish they want to reel in don't take it personally.

That being said pinays are always excited to meet someone with good hygiene, a sense of humor and someone who takes care of themselves and is staying for longer than 30 days. Given these traits you also will be bumped up on that list. Girls can deal with ugly or old but CANNOT deal with a dick that's smells like a wet dog and ridden with boils or someone who is also destitute 'the girls actually do feel bad taking advantage of poor men, for this reason they prefer a man that will not be totally ruined if he spends a little money. ' If you do not have a sense of humor on top of a stinky weenie and no money, yes even a lowly hooker will take a pass on you. Take a shower and don't look or act homeless like Big Joe 'search him you on youtube if you are curious' you are not going to be well received by anyone except your homeless counterparts.

[MoonShot]

Explorer: The Koreans frown upon "their" bargirls going with Farangs. So, the ladies are hesitant about being seen leaving the bar with a Farang, as the consequences may be unprofitable. You will eventually leave AC, but the bargirl has to work there after you are gone.

NS: Lets not forget that many Korean owned bars also frown on their girls leaving with whitey, hear many times from Korean friends that they like Asian only girls and would not dream of buying drinks or bar fining a girl that gives attention to whitey, yes its a crazy notion by ohh so true.

Hahaha WOW! They don't want the gogo girls going with an entire other race? An open confession of K racism, and K insecurity wildly showing itself.

Is someone (s) compensating for something? Did all those pics of my mediocre schwanztooga cause this? Hahahahahaha.

It is more likely fear of disease. That is what I have heard. Koreans believe that other foreigners have more STDs and HIVs and so, if a girl goes out with a lot of non-Asian foreigners, she is more likely to have HIV or STDs. Now, it is true that America has the highest rate of STDs so there is some truth to that. The rates in South Korea are much lower.

[SouthEaster]

It wasn't always the case but you may have a point, although a pretty small one. In AC as in the entire country, it's always about the money. Many years ago I had an almost identical situation to yours with a doorgirl from a bar that no longer exists. Much to my surprise after a stopping for a short chat she agreed to BF and off we went. For the following week she would come over after her shift. But I still paid her half of the barfine. Doubtful it would have continued if I gave her zip. Mind you the BF was 1000 in those days! Hard to believe.

[JordCo]

All this hubub about about money being the end-all-be-all. Admittedly I'm not as handsome as I was when I first went to AC in 2017. But when I was there last year, I was fit, well groomed, nicely dressed, white (I guess I have to say this because the gringos are taking a beating on the forum lately), the incredibly hot door girl from Monsoon saw me sitting there on the front rail at Kokomos and was jumping up and down and waving at me and blowing kisses, and I knew I had a very very easy target. We ended up hooking up a few times, yes the first time was a barfine but the rest were not. Don't act like money is everything to these girls. Women are basically the same all over the world, and money (success) is only a part of what attracts them to you.

So unless you're Over 65 then you looked 5 years more mature which implies 5 years richer. In a addition to fit, groomed, nicely dressed, white. So you looked like you had plenty to spend. After the first bar fine she might have realised this is a nice guy I'd love to spend more time with him and his money. Walking street is all money. Why else would a girl be there? She probably liked you at least a bit and considered playing the longer game. Other Filipinas might not be all about money but you won't find them in WS.

[Jarango]

. Women are basically the same all over the world, and money (success) is only a part of what attracts them to you.

Sure thing Casanova. Tell a normal Pinay woman she is the same as an Angeles hooker and run.