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  1. #5162
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    I also think it is an excellent list. Viviane Miller has more reviews than Celine Luz does, so you might take that into consideration.

    I am mostly responding because this morning one of the posters on the local board, a guy who has seen a great number of the EP ladies, did an 8 out of 10 review of Patricia de Sa' of EP, which is her first review that I have seen. That is an excellent score from him. He confirmed that she is in the 20-year old range and he said her BBBJ was the best he has received from any EP provider. So you might consider adding her to your list somewhere.

    https://escortprivada.com/escort/patricia-de-sa/

    https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...cia-de-sa-8064
    Thanks for the info! Will definitely put her on the list. I also read something positive about Margarida Alves?

  2. #5161
    I think the real question is what she is doing for those of us who aren't Kama. My visit was in December, so following on Kama by a matter of a few weeks at most. She didn't just up and change her roster, and her ambiguity about services offered goes back a year -- and she was quite firm about CBJ on the spot and quite clear about no FS in messaging.

    As I see it, there are two possibilities: her thing is YMMV or she offers full service to long standing clients only. As I said, Kama is grandfathered in, one way or the other.

    So I expect when he goes, he will probably get full service again. It's what happens with somebody else that confirms things. But this is LISBON. We shouldn't be required to deal with ambiguity like that.

    Frankly, I only wound up with her because she was the only one on my list available at the time I required. She was at the bottom of that list because of her ambiguities and evasiveness, and stayed on it only because she is Bengali. I was never comfortable with her evasiveness regarding services offered, and that is keeping in mind that I am absolutely fine with an awesome erotic massage and HJ, so long as both are high quality. The ambiguity kept me away for a long time, because I had other ladies to see. It was a yellow flag, and given how mixed I feel about the whole thing, I won't make that mistake again.

    Quote Originally Posted by KamaLeo  [View Original Post]
    Up to, say, a month ago, it was always BBBJ and FS (and quite good at that). I haven't seen her since. It will be my first new year resolution.

  3. #5160
    Quote Originally Posted by Pecadozinho  [View Original Post]
    I'd very much appreciate an authoritative verification from granpa KamaLeao. Aida has been on my list / dream for a while. Very evasive indeed.
    Up to, say, a month ago, it was always BBBJ and FS (and quite good at that). I haven't seen her since. It will be my first new year resolution.

  4. #5159
    Quote Originally Posted by ExExpatriate  [View Original Post]
    All I can do is shrug. When I inquired in the past, she was always evasive. This time it was clear as a bell. The local board reports also make it unclear whether she does or does not.

    I suspect you've been grandfathered in, Kama.
    I'd very much appreciate an authoritative verification from granpa KamaLeao. Aida has been on my list / dream for a while. Very evasive indeed.

  5. #5158
    I also think it is an excellent list. Viviane Miller has more reviews than Celine Luz does, so you might take that into consideration.

    I am mostly responding because this morning one of the posters on the local board, a guy who has seen a great number of the EP ladies, did an 8 out of 10 review of Patricia de Sa' of EP, which is her first review that I have seen. That is an excellent score from him. He confirmed that she is in the 20-year old range and he said her BBBJ was the best he has received from any EP provider. So you might consider adding her to your list somewhere.

    https://escortprivada.com/escort/patricia-de-sa/

    https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...cia-de-sa-8064

    Quote Originally Posted by Front604  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone,

    I am planning my next stay in Lisbon and just wanted to cross-check my current list of potential escorts.

    So right now I have.

    Celine Luz.

    Viviane Miller.

    Sabrina Avelar.

    Flora Neves.

    They all should be on the young" side (you never know especially with EP how accurate the advertised age is).

    I also have in the list.

    Lara Cortez.

    Francisca Vilar (would be a repeated visit).

    Joanna Montenegro.

    These three I think are closer to 30 than 18 but I read good things about them (or had a very nice first hand experience).

    I do believe the list is quite solid? Any other young ones (as close to 18 as possible) with good English skills that I have forgotten? Are there any Ebony ladies that can be recommended? I had a duo with Deborah Dias but I do not think that her English could carry a 2 h session.

  6. #5157
    I think you're solid.

    The only caveat I see if Celine and Sabrina are less reported on than the others. So the reports are positive, but not strongly cross referenced. It will probably be fine, but it's something to consider.

    Quote Originally Posted by Front604  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone,

    I am planning my next stay in Lisbon and just wanted to cross-check my current list of potential escorts.

    So right now I have.

    Celine Luz.

    Viviane Miller.

    Sabrina Avelar.

    Flora Neves.

    They all should be on the young" side (you never know especially with EP how accurate the advertised age is).

    I also have in the list.

    Lara Cortez.

    Francisca Vilar (would be a repeated visit).

    Joanna Montenegro.

    These three I think are closer to 30 than 18 but I read good things about them (or had a very nice first hand experience).

    I do believe the list is quite solid? Any other young ones (as close to 18 as possible) with good English skills that I have forgotten? Are there any Ebony ladies that can be recommended? I had a duo with Deborah Dias but I do not think that her English could carry a 2 h session.

  7. #5156
    Hi everyone,

    I am planning my next stay in Lisbon and just wanted to cross-check my current list of potential escorts.

    So right now I have.

    Celine Luz.

    Viviane Miller.

    Sabrina Avelar.

    Flora Neves.

    They all should be on the „young" side (you never know especially with EP how accurate the advertised age is).

    I also have in the list.

    Lara Cortez.

    Francisca Vilar (would be a repeated visit).

    Joanna Montenegro.

    These three I think are closer to 30 than 18 but I read good things about them (or had a very nice first hand experience).

    I do believe the list is quite solid? Any other young ones (as close to 18 as possible) with good English skills that I have forgotten? Are there any Ebony ladies that can be recommended? I had a duo with Deborah Dias but I do not think that her English could carry a 2 h session.

  8. #5155
    Fair enough. I guess it was also the starting of an ad at the same time which added to the curiosity. We can only speculate that her client list of regulars may have declined.

    Certainly nothing underhand or any concerns over her service, partly as she didn't change her name, but mainly due to her having 3 positive reviews on the local board in the last few days!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Usually because like all of us they occasionally fuck up.

    Once they forget and use the work number for something personal, it becomes more likely that a reverse search will yield their real name.

    I have known many escorts who changed a number following an oh shit moment where they Google their work number and their real name pops up.

    Or they sign up for one of those paid search companies and discover their identity is associated with both their personal number and their work number.

  9. #5154

    Welcome back.

    Two well-regarded ladies just came back to the scene.

    First, Emily Carter is not just active again, but did her first new verified photoshoot in at least a couple of years.

    https://docemassagem.com/massagista/emily-carter/

    And the most excellent Aurora Vaz is taking calls again:

    https://www.portalprivado.com/escort/aurora-vaz

  10. #5153
    Quote Originally Posted by Harry1217  [View Original Post]
    150 for 1 hour incall and 200 for an hour's outcall. So she's more expensive than the EscortPrivada outcall rate.

    I'm intrigued as to why a well established lady with a long regular client list and no active ad, would suddenly change her telephone number and start an ad?
    Usually because like all of us they occasionally fuck up.

    Once they forget and use the work number for something personal, it becomes more likely that a reverse search will yield their real name.

    I have known many escorts who changed a number following an oh shit moment where they Google their work number and their real name pops up.

    Or they sign up for one of those paid search companies and discover their identity is associated with both their personal number and their work number.

  11. #5152
    150 for 1 hour incall and 200 for an hour's outcall. So she's more expensive than the EscortPrivada outcall rate.

    I'm intrigued as to why a well established lady with a long regular client list and no active ad, would suddenly change her telephone number and start an ad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aht169  [View Original Post]
    What kind of rates is she charging?

  12. #5151
    Quote Originally Posted by Aht169  [View Original Post]
    What kind of rates is she charging?
    Best just to send her a WhatsApp message and ask.

    Apartadox doesn't allow rates to be listed, and I don't know if what I paid is still valid.

    I assume it is, but there is always inflation to consider.

  13. #5150

    Rates?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Rebeca Diniz is now running an ad and has changed her phone number.

    https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...eca-diniz-6364
    What kind of rates is she charging?

  14. #5149
    Rebeca Diniz is now running an ad and has changed her phone number.

    https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhan...eca-diniz-6364

    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    A couple of reports of mine from a recent trip.

    The highlight of my trip was Rebeca Diniz, who goes by Becky.

    I wish of course that I could post a link.

    But she has not run an ad for a good long time.

    The good news is that she is accepting new customers who contact her via WhatsApp. She just doesn't run an ad because she is getting plenty of business from regulars and referrals.

    I will post a link when she runs a new ad, but anyone is welcome to PM me here for contact information.

    I got intrigued when she got about ten reviews on the local board that were all 9's and 10's out of 10.

    That is unheard of on the local board, which has more negativism than most review boards.

    She deserves those high marks. She is a tremendous provider.

    I had contacted her several months before my trip, and instead of blowing me off like most providers do when I contact them well in advance, she accepted a booking and put it in her calendar. She is very prompt and responsive to messages, and she speaks and writes fluent English. She contacted me a week before, then a day before the appointment, to reconfirm..

  15. #5148

    Some other observations

    Some things I observed from this last visit, and thought the thread might find useful.

    First, about Nuru Spa. That follows a well-established model of FS spas in Lisbon, where the girls advertise as independents on sites like Apartadox, but they really aren't (Klass is another example). The interesting part of that here is that Nuru's website shows faces, while Apartadox shows only bodies. Lisbon is too crammed with ads to try this, not unless you are willing to put in a large chunk of work in messaging to figure out who works at the Lisbon location. But Cascais never has more than a dozen escorts at a time, and most are at Nuru. So, it is possible to take the two sources and make some guesses.

    Second, I contacted this lady while exploring options:

    https://www.somassagens.com/massagis...sensual-lisboa

    First, the rates she offered were well above standard for the services offered. That means she was either putting a tourist tax on me (despite my messaging in Portuguese) or she is very overpriced. She defends that pricing by suggesting she has excellent skills, but really? The best girls in that class ask for a little more, like 10 euros above standard.

    She also does the "surprise massage" thing, where she suggests extras may be available for an even higher rate, but is evasive about what those extras are.

    That is a handful of red flags, insofar as I'm concerned. There are no reviews of her anywhere I've seen, and maybe the basic work is great, but the whole thing screams mercenary scam at me -- the type looking for suckers to milk of their cash.

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