Hong Kong Club Reports

[Zenduka1]

Appreciate your post, thanks. Agree with some of your points, in particular not wanting to waste my time interacting with other dudes, avoiding meseros as much as I can, and prefering to sit with chicas in the back (or upstairs) a way from the main stage where it's usually more relaxing an chill.

However, I do think you make several assumptions about the chicas which aren't necessarily true. "Amateurs always better than pros", the things against girls with glasses or who speak English too well because it shows they've been there too long, etc. At least in my experience, one of my regular chicas who speaks English very well has been there for a long time but the other two are relatively new and told me they speak and write English because of their education (both have college degrees and learned English over the years through their schooling). To each his own as far as preferences, though again it did seem (IMO) that some of your preferences were predicated on bad assumptions.

Also re: your last point, I think it's just wiser to always negotiate the price up front prior to arriba. I think you will eventually run into a problem if you're not agreeing to a price upfront. Same with the "you can pretty much run the table with these girls" comment, LOL. In a way reminds me of Trump's "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. " remark from back in the day. It's a foolhardy assumption IMO and you're setting yourself up for trouble if you go arriba with that attitude with the wrong chica.

The issue he has with girls in glasses is random. However I made mental note to verify it out in the future. I just checked all my contact's pics most don't wear glasses. There are two and they are both cool. I remember one girl in glasses I hate to this day.

I noticed girls who can speak English well are a bit aggressive, a bit demanding and think they are better for it. Where in reality speaking in English with the girls turn me off. In Spanish for some reason I fall in that sexual mojo. I usually decline to speak in English with the girls or anyone else unless I am chatting with other mongers.

Not discussing pricing while in the club is an invitation to disaster.

Throwing money at the girls doesn't buy you the best service. Not at all. She would take your money but what buys you the best service is where she is feeling wise at the moment of interaction and whether a good sentiment continues in the room until the end. There is a number of things that affect this which some are under the monger's control and others have nothing to do with one.

I put a list below that affect a good session. Please do not read if too tedious but I decided to list it out. With experience one can identify general positivity and negativity in just a minute or two. That is what I do and the frequent bad sessions I used to get before 5 years ago now became extremely rare. Sorry to disagree with those who believe money talks and you pay and get served. Not true. There is a difference between screwing a pretty but senseless and irritated manikin vs warm, wet, turned on human female.

Here are some things to note.

- Does she like your appearance, physically.

- Does your level of cleanliness affect her (positive or negative) do you have bad body odor, bad smelling breath, dirty clothing and shoes, etc.

- Are you relaxed or uptight, are you nervous or confident, are you playful or intense, are you too horny. Do you grope her too much.

- Are you too drunk.

- Did she see you chatting with other girls and those girls were smiling when they walk away from you.

- Do you address her friends too or ignore them.

- Do you pay her the standard or just a bit above the standard (or promise her propina based on her service) or do you come off too stingy (elbow rub).

- Did she take you as fool (or wannabe imposter) spraying money buying over the top priced drinks in the club.

- Are you a regular and do you have a good reputation.

- In the room does she like how you do her, can you follow her body language and adjust (without asking).

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Here is a list to note things out of a monger's control.

Is she having a bad day?

In the moment, is she mad, depressed or content and lively due to something that took place in her life.

Is she sick, physically hurt, (like an ill fitting shoes causing her pain in her feet, etc.).

Is she having an issue with management.

Is she generally an open person or closed.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

[BrotherMouzone]

Part I: The Club.

This is the opposite of me. I don't negotiate anything. It just kills the vibe to say, "I want x and why and you better be like z" as though you were ordering a pizza or something. I'll take my chances with a bad experience if I have to, but I don't negotiate.

I always go alone (except when I've gone with girlfriends from Tijuana). Other dudes would just get in the way and slow me down. I'm there to meet women, not dudes. There are many places in Tijuana to party and get drunk, so It's not my thing to do that in HK.

I try to look for newer girls. This is the one sport where amateurs are always better than pros. I like them skinny with a natural body. No plastic. Not too tiny. Not too much of a doll face. I like girls that are "off-pretty" in the face, or that have a face that has character. I have a thing against girls wearing glasses. These girls either want to be "taken seriously" or "create a barrier" (or they are a lesbian). None of these is a good thing. I don't like girls that wear to much: again, creating a barrier. I don't mind a few tats, but if you are covered in tats, that's a big red flag. I don't like girls that look mean. A lot of these girls walk around pouting the whole night, looking like death warmed over. Even if they are hot, these types are just not approachable, IMO. A girl needs to show some warmth, and look like she is at least having a little bit of fun. I like them maybe a little bit shy, not overly confident. I look for traits that indicate she will be more submissive and willing in the room.

At some point I will just approach a girl and ask her if she want's to come join me at a table. I never ask a waiter to call a girl over. In fact, I avoid waiters whenever possible. Mostly, I just roam the club during the course of the evening. I rarely even sit down because I don't like being approached by either waiters or girls (its just not in a young attractive woman's DNA to approach any male, so you tend to get the older, desperate ones coming up to you! I might sit down later when the club cools down a bit and there are more empty seats.

I like to sit with the girls near the back where it's more chill. I don't like the areas near the main stage where the show-offs are buying their 10 bottles of overpriced Patron. I usually have just a few drinks with a girl before deciding whether to go to the room. I feel like, if you want to socialize with her all night, you should just get her number and ask her to do something with you outside the club. If she speaks English too well, she's been working there to long. If her voice is too deep or sounds haggard, she's been working there too long. If she's too pushy, it's off. If she seems nice and humble, it's on. I speak a little Spanish, or at least can understand what they say. I try to keep the topics upbeat. I like to find out a little about their lives. If they are from Tijuana, what they do for fun, etc.

I don't necessarily try to grope the girls, or kiss them. I find that that really isn't a good indicator of what is too come. If I'm getting good signals, I will invite them to come with me to the room. I don't ask the price, nor do I say what I will pay. It's Ok if they quote a price at that time, unless it is too high, then I might balk or might say I only have this much. What I have found though, is that the girls, a lot of time, will just go with no mention of price. What I'm about to say may sound arrogant, but I can attest that it is true. If you are a decent looking white guy, intelligent, but not a nerd, you can pretty much run the table with these girls. For a lot of these girls, it's an ego boost for them to be with you. Because you are perceived as both high status and exotic, it's like a natural aphrodisiac for these women. So I have found that majority of the girls want to have sex anyway, and I kind of view any money exchanged as simply the social lubricant that makes nature take its course faster.

Appreciate your post, thanks. Agree with some of your points, in particular not wanting to waste my time interacting with other dudes, avoiding meseros as much as I can, and prefering to sit with chicas in the back (or upstairs) a way from the main stage where it's usually more relaxing an chill.

However, I do think you make several assumptions about the chicas which aren't necessarily true. "Amateurs always better than pros", the things against girls with glasses or who speak English too well because it shows they've been there too long, etc. At least in my experience, one of my regular chicas who speaks English very well has been there for a long time but the other two are relatively new and told me they speak and write English because of their education (both have college degrees and learned English over the years through their schooling). To each his own as far as preferences, though again it did seem (IMO) that some of your preferences were predicated on bad assumptions.

Also re: your last point, I think it's just wiser to always negotiate the price up front prior to arriba. I think you will eventually run into a problem if you're not agreeing to a price upfront. Same with the "you can pretty much run the table with these girls" comment, LOL. In a way reminds me of Trump's "Grab 'them by the pussy. You can do anything. " remark from back in the day. It's a foolhardy assumption IMO and you're setting yourself up for trouble if you go arriba with that attitude with the wrong chica.

[TerOnlyOnce]

Why you guys keep putting up with this place is beyond me. HK is horrible. I told you it's non stop scams.

Where else do you recommend that is close to USA?

[Dogers69]

Why you guys keep putting up with this place is beyond me. HK is horrible. I told you it's non stop scams.

My only conclusion on why guys put up with this place is because they are typically older or less attractive men and theirfore conditioned to no sex, or just want that 5 minute CBJ and 5 minutes of sex anyway. They aren't 25 year old guys banging woman left and right for an hour 4 nights a week in the states. So the crap sex is actually what they prefer. And they feel grateful for any sex. And most are very afraid of being arrested for sex in their own city or cpuntry. And most only go 2 to 6 nights a year. It's the guys who were going every week that got sick of the changes from hk and its hotel that began shortly before covid and Co tinge to get worse every few months.

[TjBrazil]

You got a good point. I will start telling them in the club, no clock watching and need at least 40 minutes. Take it or leave it.

They do change often though when they get in the room. Last December a girl promised BBBJ and in the room she wanted $30 extra for it. I handed her $5, opened the door and asked her to leave. Oh no, she wanted the $100. So she called HK security. 5 dudes who know me came huffing and puffing. They waited outside with the door opened until the big Jefe arrived. He talked to us, understood what happened and he told her since she gave no service and got $5 for her troubles she should leave the room. When I saw an argument ensued between the two, I handed her another $5 to shut her up. Now even the security guys were giving her the evil eye. She left when she sensed what was going to happen if she didn't.

Why you guys keep putting up with this place is beyond me. HK is horrible. I told you it's non stop scams.

[Phordphan]

I say this all the time. Not in relation to HK, but in life. It's a truism. When you're spending money, you have all the power until you agree to hand over the money. That's when negotiations cease. So a big trick in life is to make it seem normal that money doesn't exchange hands. I'm saying you don't hold it out and dangle it. You just casually keep the conversation in that middle ground where you need to be convinced still. Try this next time you pay someone directly for something. Including vagina.

El mariachi pagado toca mal son. All Mexicans know this phrase. Learn it, love it, live it!

[LuvMexicanas]

I say this all the time. Not in relation to HK, but in life. It's a truism. When you're spending money, you have all the power until you agree to hand over the money. That's when negotiations cease. So a big trick in life is to make it seem normal that money doesn't exchange hands. I'm saying you don't hold it out and dangle it. You just casually keep the conversation in that middle ground where you need to be convinced still. Try this next time you pay someone directly for something. Including vagina.

"Deserve's got nothing to do with it" In life, you don't get what you deserve, you get what you negotiate.

[Zenduka1]

I was with a slender, tall 25-year-old in my room. She reached out around 5 AM, claiming she had finished her shift and wanted to spend the morning together. A security personnel escorted her to my room, and I tipped him $5 to allow her in. After a shower, I started humping her BB with her squelching panocha in a bliss.

Suddenly, she made a gurgling sound, pushed me away, and stumbled towards the bathroom. The intensity of her vomiting was unmistakable. I gave her a glass of water and a damp towel for wipe, I cleaned up some vomit on the bathroom floor, told her to sit up, placing a cold wet towel on her forehead. Unfortunately, she experienced another round of intense vomiting and even had a minor seizure, with her hands trembling.

Concerned, I hastily dressed her, and as I called the lobby for assistance, a swarm of about 10 individuals, some from Rizo and others from HK, gathered at my door. Initially, it seemed like they were ready to pounce on me, but tensions eased when they were informed (unknown to me) that she had been extremely intoxicated when escorted to my room by the security personnel earlier and also when she told them she was asthmatic and did not have her inhaler.

I placed my spare pair of footies on her bare feet, placed her shoes in a plastic bag, dropped her $100 to her purse, all while under the watchful eyes of all that pile of security. I was genuinely concerned as they carried her and her things away into a Taxi to transport her to a hospital.

[Zenduka1]

If she switches anything up in room in a way that is clearly underhanded then just tell her to leave, do not give any money. Say there is misunderstanding and not what was agreed upon and you want to call it off. Don't fight it or anything, just don't give money. If this is in your room and you need to stay there, then just wait until she leaves or security comes. It doesn't matter what you do honestly, just do not pay any money under any circumstance LOL unless of course she is trying to threaten you or hurt you, if that were to happen though you should report it here and report it to management.

They Jefe definitely would have forced for her to be compensated for exiting HK and walking to the room. Did not want to wait until he said it. The room was mine paid for 3 nights.

[TerOnlyOnce]

You got a good point. I will start telling them in the club, no clock watching and need at least 40 minutes. Take it or leave it.

They do change often though when they get in the room. Last December a girl promised BBBJ and in the room she wanted $30 extra for it. I handed her $5, opened the door and asked her to leave. Oh no, she wanted the $100. So she called HK security. 5 dudes who know me came huffing and puffing. They waited outside with the door opened until the big Jefe arrived. He talked to us, understood what happened and he told her since she gave no service and got $5 for her troubles she should leave the room. When I saw an argument ensued between the two, I handed her another $5 to shut her up. Now even the security guys were giving her the evil eye. She left when she sensed what was going to happen if she didn't.

If she switches anything up in room in a way that is clearly underhanded then just tell her to leave, do not give any money. Say there is misunderstanding and not what was agreed upon and you want to call it off. Don't fight it or anything, just don't give money. If this is in your room and you need to stay there, then just wait until she leaves or security comes. It doesn't matter what you do honestly, just do not pay any money under any circumstance LOL unless of course she is trying to threaten you or hurt you, if that were to happen though you should report it here and report it to management.

[AmericanPi]

It's really simple: you wield the power until the money is in her hands. No need to overcomplicate it.

I say this all the time. Not in relation to HK, but in life. It's a truism. When you're spending money, you have all the power until you agree to hand over the money. That's when negotiations cease. So a big trick in life is to make it seem normal that money doesn't exchange hands. I'm saying you don't hold it out and dangle it. You just casually keep the conversation in that middle ground where you need to be convinced still. Try this next time you pay someone directly for something. Including vagina.

[TerOnlyOnce]

It's really simple: you wield the power until the money is in her hands. No need to overcomplicate it.

Yeah, which is why you always pay at the end.

If she doesn't accept that, then don't take her to the room.

If no girl accepts that, then don't go to HK, go somewhere else.

It's as simple as that.

Paying at the beginning is never worth it, I would rather just not have sex with any of them, regardless of how hot or sexy they look. Because if you pay at the beginning, you won't get good service, so how hot she looks becomes irrelevant.

[LuvMexicanas]

Good points.

If and when presented with choices, the ladies will wield power they get to pick their chodes, the real MVPs we affectionately call ourselves mongers. And when the cosmic alignment isn't quite right, and they decide to ungracefully bow out of the ascent solicitation, it's not your typical 'no. ' Oh no, it's a cinematic masterpiece of a sinister frown and a pout that could launch a thousand ships.

It's really simple: you wield the power until the money is in her hands. No need to overcomplicate it.

[Zenduka1]

I would have said you wanted at least 30-60 minutes before taking her to hotel, and say no clock watching or timers, you want to end the session when you're ready, and that you only pay at the end LOL.

She has to verbally agree to all of this, and then you take her, if not then pass.

And if she verbally agrees and then changes up in hotel, then I would just keep telling her that she agreed to what we stated in the club, and just repeating myself like a bot that we already agreed and not give her money LOL. If she doesn't just leave I would just keep repeating myself to be honest. And if she called management or management come I would just tell them straight up that we already agreed to everything in club, if they get mad at me then I would come here and write a scathing review documenting everything, then never see that girl again.

You got a good point. I will start telling them in the club, no clock watching and need at least 40 minutes. Take it or leave it.

They do change often though when they get in the room. Last December a girl promised BBBJ and in the room she wanted $30 extra for it. I handed her $5, opened the door and asked her to leave. Oh no, she wanted the $100. So she called HK security. 5 dudes who know me came huffing and puffing. They waited outside with the door opened until the big Jefe arrived. He talked to us, understood what happened and he told her since she gave no service and got $5 for her troubles she should leave the room. When I saw an argument ensued between the two, I handed her another $5 to shut her up. Now even the security guys were giving her the evil eye. She left when she sensed what was going to happen if she didn't.

[Jackie888]

Don't take it seriously. Take it easy. In Mexico they have a different way of behaving, a different kind of humor. It may be offensive to Americans, but in Mexico it is normal.

I think she likes him and she was flirting with him. At least that is how I would have taken it if I was in his spot. If she was really angry, she would have thrown his dollar on the ground disregard him like a little bug, which incidentally how I have experienced an angry chica in the past.